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  • @bartlettbigx
    @bartlettbigx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    The guy with the curls and moustache is Albie Fiore, whose name older RPGers will remember. He was a regular contributor to White Dwarf magazine, writing scenarios and editing the column 'Fiend Factory', among many other works in the hobby. Sadly, he passed away in 2009.

  • @bopper942
    @bopper942 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

    Well the joke's on us all taking the piss as the guy interviewed at 3:50 on is Steve Jackson who went on to write the millions selling Fighting Fantasy books and Co-founded Games Workshop/Warhammer.

    • @ashleybevis9769
      @ashleybevis9769 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      No mention of Ian livingstone, dam

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@ashleybevis9769 He's not bothered, he's in the House of Lords.

    • @naysmith5272
      @naysmith5272 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      he at the start as well - I thought he looked familiar - yes I liked all that Fighting Fantasy / and Talisman boardgame et al when I was younger. As someone that didn't like reading I found the short paragraphs of the adventure gamebooks easy to digest, and there were many different themes. I enjoyed Citadel of Chaos and there is a bit where if you think of cheating and backtracking, the other option leads also to your demise! Maybe somewhere near the Ganjees - but haven't read it for a long time now.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1980: The JOY of ROLE-PLAYING GAMES | Heart of the Matter | Retro Gaming | BBC Archive 1148am 6.10.24 hey man, i have never taken the piss of those role players or fantasy warhammer gaming/gamers... i mean, it's cool and is a perfect outlet for those frustrated with the fractures and fissures of contemporaneous living. great for one's imagination. and imaginations are where it's at. sadly these guys sound so banal and not in keeping with their characterizations that yer left thinking: we might as well be back in the office.... i knew folk who dressed up as vikings of a weekend and went at in fields with their foes... they have their own hierarchy so i'd be useless... unless cast a Loki................... you kindda feel there's a lot of sorrow for the fallen leader when you find those dudes who loved what they did re: (fantasy) gaming have given it a miss or stopped attending their weekly fantasy bash... another lamb to the slaughter, so to speak. the wife and contemporary living strikes another blow etc etce etc etc etc...

    • @warrenrandall6936
      @warrenrandall6936 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      All the early reports on this genre of game had a smug reporter and the usual comments (made by the anchor man/woman in the studio) that they were socially inept people. Apart from the guy talking about the possibility of being being violent on the streets, if he didn't role play at a table, the players all presented themselves well. They even dressed in suits! I don't think British RPGers were like that at home in the early 80s.

  • @Lamenter40K
    @Lamenter40K 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Cool to see how people were doing it back in the day, and that no where in the interview did it seem that they were being mocked. Good for them and thanks for posting this blast from the past.

    • @southpole76
      @southpole76 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      this is from a time when Europe (the UK was part of Europe at the time) was usually a about ten years behind the US on having the dumbest possible take on everything.

  • @nicksmith8557
    @nicksmith8557 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Man, they were genuinely good times. What was interesting was that you could be involved in D&D AND still be in with the breakdance and BMX scene. It was all acceptable and everyone was involved. Good Times! I bought the re-elease of Heroquest recently and play it with my little boy, he loves it!❤❤

  • @bazzoparticipates3776
    @bazzoparticipates3776 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Steve Jackson of Fighting fantasy fame. I was obsessed with his (and Ian Livingstone's) books

  • @ande100
    @ande100 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Ah, yes! D&D. I got raked in by a wizard friend in 1984 and never left. Goodness! I'm OLD! Lol🤣😱💀

  • @peteryates308
    @peteryates308 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    You know you're in trouble in the dungeon when Darth Vader emerges.

    • @cb361
      @cb361 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      There's a wonderful story on the internet about a GM running a game in the Star Wars universe. There was a section played out in the Rebel base on Hoth during the Imperial assault. The players escaped the base in their star ship, and for a bit of extra flavour the GM told them that as they flew away, Darth Vader emerged from the base and shook his fist at them. It wasn't supposed to mean anything, but the players immediately wanted nothing more than to fight Darth Vader. Against the GM's plan they abandoned their quest and insisted on flying back to the Rebel base, which they searched from top to bottom, looking for Darth Vader to fight.

    • @leespiderpod
      @leespiderpod 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heh, I thought that

    • @roguerover30k
      @roguerover30k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LOL

    • @wispywoodsman7475
      @wispywoodsman7475 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cb361 First time I played Star Wars D20, we were told up front "don't go hunting for autographs. If you go looking for Darth Vader, you WILL find him and you will NOT live"

  • @rutherfordappraisal258
    @rutherfordappraisal258 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    That poster over the DM’s shoulder at 1:45 is badass.

  • @bopper942
    @bopper942 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    That Dungeon Master really brings it to life

    • @roguerover30k
      @roguerover30k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He needs a tune up, unless he's just intimidated by the cameras etc?

  • @krashd
    @krashd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    The first guy keeps his vast array of haircare products in a Bag of Holding.

    • @nicksmith8557
      @nicksmith8557 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Awesome!😂😂

    • @shawnzeppo4361
      @shawnzeppo4361 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Steve Jackson did have good hair back in the day, I suppose. A very famous writer of fantasy games, including Oger.

  • @lesigh1749
    @lesigh1749 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    What very well dressed role-players. The two men in tweed jackets look like they just came from presenting an Open University programme.

  • @zachariasbennett5105
    @zachariasbennett5105 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Seeing this brought back happy memories of when me and my brother used to play these games back in the early 80s and there used to be a group that used to be at our school that used to play them including one of our teachers and it was our teacher that had the idea of doing a 24 hour role playing game event to raise money for a charity and my brother and I was some of those people that was in that charity event but I can't remember how much we raised or even the charity the money was going to for it has been so long ago but we enjoyed it.

  • @ActualChef
    @ActualChef 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I wish I was just a little older in 1980 to have been in this mix. I was a little young and the version we played wasn’t nearly as fleshed out as this. These blokes are having a proper time of it. Glad to still be playing in 2024. The scene is alive and well.

  • @shawnzeppo4361
    @shawnzeppo4361 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This video does bring back some good memories of the late 70's and early lead figures of the time, before 25mm was a victim of scale creep. I still have all the figures in the video except for the Darth Vader and ral partha dwarf, which I used to have (actually several) but traded away about 20 years ago. I also had lots of the boardgames on Steve Jackson's shelf. Very amusing.

  • @Akinohotarubi
    @Akinohotarubi 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    2:53 I'm going to ask people to join my "sword & sorcery cult" from now on.

  • @cyclingdad6152
    @cyclingdad6152 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    At 4:30 he makes a good point. The riots of Summer ‘24 could have been avoided if someone cracked open a game of Hero Quest.

    • @roguerover30k
      @roguerover30k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh my sweet summer child....

  • @haroldgodwinson4674
    @haroldgodwinson4674 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Thank you.
    A look back to the early days of UK rpg fans.

  • @johntammaro
    @johntammaro 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    His mustache is amazing.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thinking mustaches are amazing is very 2006. You do realize that everyone is gong around actually wearin them now, right?

    • @lordhoot1
      @lordhoot1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LLS710 HIS moustache can be amazing, regardless of how many people are doing it

  • @NMF76
    @NMF76 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Steve Jackson's Fighting Fantasy books were always the best imo, Citadel of Chaos, House of Hell, Creature of Havoc, the Sorcery series etc.

    • @seanfsmith
      @seanfsmith 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      have you seen his latest? released only last year - it's the first he's done since FF#24 Creature of Havoc

    • @simonw1252
      @simonw1252 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      House of Hell really freaked me out, the illustrations like the old corpse falling out of the cupboard. It was difficult to finish alive without cheating a bit😅

    • @seanfsmith
      @seanfsmith 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@simonw1252 yeah he was really testing us on that one! you've got to take info from a failed run to be able to succeed, which i think is the first in the series to do that??

    • @NMF76
      @NMF76 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@seanfsmith Yes, not his best work unfortunately but still highly enjoyable and innovative. Here's hoping he works on a few more! 👍

    • @NMF76
      @NMF76 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@seanfsmith It's possible to complete it on your first attempt but the chances of succeeding are slim.

  • @MIKandJEAN
    @MIKandJEAN 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    @0:59 Cheers up love, in another 7 years he'll be able to play Dungeon Master on his own with a computer called the Atarti ST! 😂

    • @Kreln1221
      @Kreln1221 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      *_Amiga 500!_*

    • @MIKandJEAN
      @MIKandJEAN 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Kreln1221 It released on Amiga a year later in 1988. 😉

    • @WhatHoSnorkers
      @WhatHoSnorkers 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Or there was Dungeon Master for the ZX Spectrum in 1983! (Not as good as the Atari ST version mind, but it was fun).

  • @obibraxton2232
    @obibraxton2232 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The dungeon made the game come ALIVE. I’d love to get involved in a role-play game like this in person but this day and age everything is so online and not the same.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There's a store right by a supermarket here where you can go in and play all these old games. It's filled with young people playing these games and not a phone or other device to be seen. This is in Upland, Ca.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Board games are still popular, and there's a thriving community of enthusiasts. Thanks to the internet, it's become much easier to get in contact with like-minded people.

    • @nicksmith8557
      @nicksmith8557 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's still very much alive as a scene. Go for it and get involved, you won't regret it 😊

    • @johncasarino5627
      @johncasarino5627 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you been living under a rock? This scene is very much alive and well, problem is though a lot of these sorts of things are run by two horrendous mega corps known as games workshop and wizards of the coast, HOWEVER funnily enough there is a booming independent role playing and wargaming scene leveraging off of alternative companies and 3d printing of miniatures, alongside one page rules systems. Just type up 'alternatives to d&d' or 'alternatives to games workshop' and find your way and what's being played locally from there.

    • @ActualChef
      @ActualChef 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s never been more alive than it is right now. Dungeons & Dragons has never been bigger. It’s one of the core brands of a major international company traded on the stock market. Entire industries have sprung up around it. My niece plays. My sister plays. We have a game this Saturday. Our friends run a D&D group at the school they teach at. It couldn’t be a better time to find a game.

  • @1Geek4Ever1
    @1Geek4Ever1 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I want to go back in time and live these moments.

  • @LeShark75
    @LeShark75 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    May your stamina never fail!

  • @AdamPreset
    @AdamPreset 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Neat. Thanks for bringing this back from the archives.

  • @rob16248
    @rob16248 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow! Look at all them lead miniatures, on the shelves. Shoulda done a separate doc' showing them all.

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hooray for Steve Jackson! Lovely man.

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +150

    And that's what 17 year olds looked like in the 1970s.

    • @4879daniel
      @4879daniel 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      I love that they put on shirts and ties for this. It’s serious business battling evil.

    • @andywatts8654
      @andywatts8654 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      You were hanging with the wrong crowd. This was the era of punk, the sports casual, the Rastafarian and the occasional hippy., there was no good reason to look like this!!

    • @primalconvoy
      @primalconvoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@4879daniel In the 80's that's what some regular people wore.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@4879daniel They're just dressed like nerds, at that time nerds were generally smartly dressed.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Jackson had already graduated by the time he founded Games Workshop in 1975 and opened the first Games Workshop in 1978 in Hammersmith. So there aren't any teenagers here, just the odd proto millionaire.
      He and Ian Livingstone used to deliver TSR imports in person from the back of a van during 1976/7. I know this because I worked for Avalon Hill (UK) at Tally Ho Games North Finchley. In return we sold them those board games you can see at 3:07, until Games Workshop went exclusively fantasy around 1986.

  • @D-LL2141
    @D-LL2141 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Loved reading/playing Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstones books as a kid.

  • @BeachcomberNZ
    @BeachcomberNZ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've got the exact same edition of that Star Wars book you see in the opening few seconds. It's still in pretty good condition for its age.

  • @Buff_Cupcake
    @Buff_Cupcake 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So fascinating that it evolved into such a massive billion dollar industry in modern day. Complete with movies, animated shows, televised D&D campaigns that draw in millions of viewers a week. As well as a massive amount of successful D&D adjacent games which do very well for themselves.
    It's funny how it was mocked back then, similar to the social trajectory videogames had. Which is now one the dominant forms of entertainment.

    • @Buff_Cupcake
      @Buff_Cupcake 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MisterStuzy UK is the third highest worldwide in terms of industry value/revenue so there are tonnes of people who lean into it. I suppose it depends on your age, level of social deficiencies, creative capacity and internet proficiency. Never said it was not opened to being mocked :)

    • @roguerover30k
      @roguerover30k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MisterStuzy Depends on which generation. Boomers probably mocked it a lot, and some Gen Xers. But Millenials and Zers are down with it generally.

  • @warrenrandall6936
    @warrenrandall6936 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Jackson is a legend. Poor woman never got to air her opinion. I suppose she was there to make tea for them when requested. 😉

    • @RighteousReverendDynamite
      @RighteousReverendDynamite 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And sandwiches of Gwynlenon; they stave off hunger of paladins and rangers for 3-6 rounds!

  • @CanadaFree-ce9jn
    @CanadaFree-ce9jn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Who watching this has the time and money to go on a six month trip to a foreign land? Well D&D and the like can get you there in six Saturdays and back to work on Monday. Who here has just been asked to star in a 30 billion dollar movie? That is the attraction of the game.

  • @WavingWorld
    @WavingWorld 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh boy, this is some 80s ass 80s footage. It's beautiful 🥲

  • @RighteousReverendDynamite
    @RighteousReverendDynamite 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I mean, they live in a land of castles that are spooky ruins and ones that are pleasantly inhabited, King Arthur is a national mythical origin story, history is filled with knights in battle, and Tolkien elevated a history of epic storytelling to incredible levels; why WOULD NOT British youth be playing D&D? It is very-much a thinking-man's game and helps channel one's imagination in good clean fun... with pint of ale at hand. (and no unexpected pregnancies or relationship dramas!)

  • @AutomanicJack
    @AutomanicJack 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    its crazy like the nerds from 1980s look like the hipster from today

  • @age-of-adventure
    @age-of-adventure 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, I didn’t even recognise Ian Livingstone as the Dungeon Master in this video 😂

  • @TalismancerM
    @TalismancerM 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still wear a suit while playing D&D...also that guy stole my DM screen! Give it back!

  • @secretagentbloke
    @secretagentbloke 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Seems like a dicey pastime 😉

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Made Jackson a millionaire.

    • @secretagentbloke
      @secretagentbloke 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alanbeaumont4848 I know, he had quite a bit of my pocket money many moons ago!

  • @zedman2879
    @zedman2879 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I remember going to the og Games Workshop in the late 70s early 80s. I could be wrong but I tbink the gentleman with the beard is Steve Jackson, one of the original founders of GW (along with Ian Livingstone). I am sure thf somewhere crusty old gamer will correct me if I sm wromg

    • @bopper942
      @bopper942 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it's Steve Jackson, he's named in the video description

  • @G1Bryce
    @G1Bryce 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Life was better back then.

  • @robertwilson214
    @robertwilson214 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In 1980 only 1 percent of us refused to grow up then marketing created the kidult in the 90s to increase profits.

    • @Racistobama
      @Racistobama 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And now its more like 25%. And that's just the way the government and corporations want us - self-indulgent and stupid with our money...even if you've been living off others your entire life.

  • @daschwah
    @daschwah 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Back when nerds were proud to lift each other up, not wallow in pathetic tribalism and toxicity.
    I miss that feeling of game-shop camaraderie.

  • @FranksMuseumOfGaming
    @FranksMuseumOfGaming 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The chap at 3:54 is giving me a young Charles Dance vibes

  • @WildDieWoodard
    @WildDieWoodard 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:08 Back in MY day, we didn't need no fancy, shmancy character sheets!!! ;-)

  • @youwantthis
    @youwantthis 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    retro nerds, I love it

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a clutch Command spell.

  • @RolandoRatas
    @RolandoRatas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I didn't know that Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy was into playing D&D back in the day. On a more serious note, I believe that's Steve Jackson 3:48 one of the founders of Games Workshop but the question is, was this footage filmed in the Hammersmith Games Workshop (the very first Games Workshop high street shop) ??? or was it some other shop that you may know about ? I absolutely love wargaming and gaming shop history and oh what I would give to travel back in time there and buy up some of those retro games. (big miniatures wargamer fan that I am). Thanks BBC for digging this out.

    • @armitageshanks4614
      @armitageshanks4614 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Pretty certain it’s the original games workshop since they had the exclusive rights to sell dnd in the late 70’s/early 80’s

    • @sie4431
      @sie4431 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      The dungeon master is Albie Fiore who wrote for their magazine:White Dwarf

    • @RolandoRatas
      @RolandoRatas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@armitageshanks4614 yeah I'm pretty much certain that this is the very first Hammersmith Games Workshop in this video if you look up on PInterest there's an old photo of Steven Jackson and I think Ian Livingstone stood up (same camera direction but looking further down the shop on the same side) and you can see those same 3 wooden display cabinets/shelves on the left hand side in the same order.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I sold them many of those games, while working for Avalon Hill (UK) in North Finchley.

    • @RolandoRatas
      @RolandoRatas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@sie4431 sadly Albie Fiore died in 2009 aged 63, there's a The Guardian obituary on him. Feel a bit bad now saying he looked like Phil Lynott. RIP

  • @kcat80
    @kcat80 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm just glad the guy in the glasses found dnd so he didn't end up on crimewatch.

  • @rockhopper01
    @rockhopper01 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As a wargamer I’m looking at the classics on the shelves… Campaign for North Africa, Next War, Diplomacy, Midway.

  • @secondchance6603
    @secondchance6603 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I spent far too many hours playing D&D in the seventies lol.

    • @grangerover500
      @grangerover500 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      On the contrary, you can never play too much!

  • @spacemidget9416
    @spacemidget9416 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What shop is this!? I'm sure I used to visit to get my figures as a kid.

  • @davidcardoso3525
    @davidcardoso3525 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lead miniatures!

  • @FlavourFool
    @FlavourFool 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    You let out that hatred young man.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      On the contrary the role players tended towards gentle nerd-dom rather than putting on bin bags and gobbing on bands.

  • @volvoguy804
    @volvoguy804 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would be the first character offed, if I showed up at my D&D session in a suit and tie.

  • @user-ve3gh5xg9q
    @user-ve3gh5xg9q 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Real fun and joy

  • @obibraxton2232
    @obibraxton2232 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    4:22 what he said was actually quite respectful but rather foreboding going by his looks it seems like this game saved him from being the possible “Serial killer” 😮‍💨💀 scary

    • @warrenrandall6936
      @warrenrandall6936 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He may also have been aware of the negative press D&D was getting in the US because of the case of a student, who played D&D, who'd committed suicide the year before. The media was in a frenzy over there and perhaps that British player was keen to show how cathartic gaming is (although it comes across as weird).

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes or it just encourages you to be more pleasant in general to people in the everyday world as your frustrations and fantasies have been all been worked out in an imaginary world and don’t need to affect your behaviour in subtle ways - a sly remark, a mean look, a broken promise. Small things make big differences.

    • @lordhoot1
      @lordhoot1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Funny you say he looks like a serial killer... he looks exactly like my dad did back then

  • @michaeljones1445
    @michaeljones1445 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine their house being bugged by mistake

  • @dragonsandwarts5644
    @dragonsandwarts5644 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    4:21 serial killer vibes? It sounds like if it wasn’t for D&D this guy might be committing some heinous crimes 😮

  • @ReallyJustAnotherDay
    @ReallyJustAnotherDay 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They look like the British Opie and Anthony Iykyk

  • @ThisOldGuy1965
    @ThisOldGuy1965 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My friends and I were playing war games with 1/72 scale AirFix soldiers at this time (we would have been a decade younger then these players) and going by this clip we had a lot more fun doing so then they seem to be having. We also used rules (anyone remember the AirFix War Games book?) and dice.

    • @RolandoRatas
      @RolandoRatas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Got a question for you, as I'm interested in miniature wargaming history in the UK, everything from (Marcus) Hinton Miniatures in the 1960s to everything just after that and before - including what guys did in their garden sheds with lead moulds making miniatures. Question is: besides AirFix War Games, what other miniature wargame rule sets or hobby kits were around in the early to late 1970s ? were there any fantasy wargames out there with miniatures ? or was Games Workshop the first ?

    • @ThisOldGuy1965
      @ThisOldGuy1965 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@RolandoRatas There were several companies making toy soldier play sets but the only 'proper' war game sets that I can recall were ones based around the Waterloo period (never had an interest in that period), Dungeons and Dragons (again, neither my friends nor I had any interest in this) and a Cold War wargame called The Fulda Gap. This came out in the late 1970s and involved a confrontation between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Of course, there was a board game called RISK which I suppose could be termed a war game set. My friends and I just used basic Airfix soldiers and there were several books on war games that we could borrow from the library.

    • @RolandoRatas
      @RolandoRatas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ThisOldGuy1965 many thanks. Never heard of The Fulda Gap before. It has an amazing history 'table top' gaming in whatever form it may take and it's always fascinating to hear of 'what came before my time' early 80s that is. H.G. Wells wrote Little Wars in 1913 I believe and I guess there were war gaming rule books or rule sets around before that time.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@RolandoRatas Fulda Gap: Hex and counter wargame by SPI. Got one upstairs (and too many others to mention).

    • @MrSimonmcc
      @MrSimonmcc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      *than not then.

  • @user-eg6nq7qt8c
    @user-eg6nq7qt8c 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    oh, dear!

  • @frogbeat8457
    @frogbeat8457 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    You can actually die in this game 😅

    • @Liofa73
      @Liofa73 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well, that’s correct. If your character dies it’s generally it for that character you have to make another.
      There aren’t many other games where that occurs.

    • @frogbeat8457
      @frogbeat8457 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Liofa73 he didn't say character. I was just messing really!

    • @warrenrandall6936
      @warrenrandall6936 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if he was being mischievous in his ambiguity?
      🤪

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What he meant is that due to the amount of backstory and time that can go into creating a character in an RPG, which is far more extensive than you would get in most other games, the avatar feels more real. You don't have the same level of attachment to a playing piece in most standard board games. When a character dies in an RPG, it is almost like losing a pet or a part of yourself, and can be quite upsetting.

    • @frogbeat8457
      @frogbeat8457 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Rocket1377 of course I got a full explanation. That's what everyone needs after making a joke. A good long serious explanation! No idea what any of you are on about. I'm off to play Hardcore WoW!

  • @GKFM-mo3ds
    @GKFM-mo3ds 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Looks no different to current day attire and atmosphere for role playing . In fact this looks like Cosplay

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They're at work. I think that's the Games Workshop store in Hammersmith. He wore tee shirt and jeans when making deliveries in '76-7 off the back of their van. I'm guessing he's trying to look professional because they're raising funds to expand into a chain.

  • @nozzer2002
    @nozzer2002 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    awwwwwww those were the days ! no wokeness ,just proper D&D !

  • @neue01
    @neue01 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Darth Vader makes a guest appearance

  • @CoolStory-Bro
    @CoolStory-Bro 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice raytracing.

  • @LLS710
    @LLS710 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That guy's afro wig made me think this was a parody of the 70s, not the real thing. That wig brought to you by the "Marsha Marsha Marsha Wash-n'-Wear be a whole new you" wig Co.

    • @warrenrandall6936
      @warrenrandall6936 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No these are the early days of Games Workshop. They really struggled to get it off the ground in the 70's and then broadcasters showed interest in the early 80's. I remember seeing clips on various programmes, as a child, then I became interested in Fighting Fantasy, then RPGs. Although I suppose some credit should be given to the Puffin book club for children for introducing thousands to gamebooks.

  • @YTPremiumWatch
    @YTPremiumWatch 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    🙏

  • @zacharythomas8617
    @zacharythomas8617 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    T1 PC DM NAO!

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    these guys are going to love world of warcraft!!!

  • @Shamefulroleplay
    @Shamefulroleplay 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is that Blue Holme they are playing in 1980?

  • @Perosales
    @Perosales 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I suspect he has a lot of hatred inside of him 🤪

  • @mr.selfimprovement3241
    @mr.selfimprovement3241 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    - Lord Vader moves three spaces
    *A Small Naked Dwarve Appears holding a Tiny Axe
    - Rolls die
    - Lord Vader casts Fire Spell on Naked Dwarve
    - Rolls die
    - Naked Dwarve Evades 0 DMG
    *The Naked Dwarve becomes Angry and Laughs
    - Naked Dwarve reaches for Axe
    - Rolls Die
    - Naked Dwarve Fails
    - Axe Breaks
    *Lord Vader Reaches into the Air with a open hand
    - Lord Vader Call Forth The Force
    - Roll Die
    - Lord Vader Fails 0 DMG
    - Naked Dwarve Throws BROKEN Axe
    - Roll Die
    - Naked Dwarve Crits Lord Vader - 9999 DMG
    - Lord Vader Picks Up Axe Piece and Throws Back
    - Roll Die
    - Lord Vader Fails 0 DMG
    - Naked Dwarve casts incantation of Life Support System Failure
    - Roll Die
    - Lord Vader falls to the floor unresponsive 1 DMG
    *Naked Dwarve Does The Hammer time
    *The room is empty and no chests are to be found
    *Beyond the crumpled body is another large door
    - Naked Dwarve moves towards door
    - Roll Die
    - Naked Dwarve is unsuccessful
    *The floor gives way to a Trap
    *Your Party Parishes
    Ah yes. Darth Vader. The greatest Classic Dungeons and Dragons 1.0 character of them all!

  • @dannydougin3925
    @dannydougin3925 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Weird .... I am just here to see the cute guys!

    • @guacam_ole
      @guacam_ole 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you like grandpas? :)

  • @a34rwl
    @a34rwl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    GEEKS!

  • @charliemango2912
    @charliemango2912 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The woman didn't get to say nor do anything

  • @primalconvoy
    @primalconvoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    "Shortly after this film was made, at least two of the young men in this interview were convicted for d6 with a minor(taur) and added to the D6-offenders registry..."

  • @whiteonggoy7009
    @whiteonggoy7009 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    My gf and I roll play 😂

    • @Liofa73
      @Liofa73 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No… you “role” play. Unless of course you just like rolling around.

    • @CanadaFree-ce9jn
      @CanadaFree-ce9jn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which one of you puts on the Princess Leia slave outfit? 🤣

  • @12345gerrard
    @12345gerrard 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No we live in a time where solo plays a thing now so DM's is not always needed these days!

  • @leespiderpod
    @leespiderpod 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was 8 in 1980 and somehow completely missed out on the whole dnd thing. I guess being outside on my bmx had something to do with it!

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or it was just that you were 8. Most RPG players in the UK back then tended to be at least mid to late teens or older.

    • @leespiderpod
      @leespiderpod 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AbelMcTalisker I remember a few of my friends collecting the citadel metal miniatures and playing something with them 😂

  • @lynstrom940
    @lynstrom940 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Female players are a known rarity when it comes to D+D (or so I've heard). Did they include her in the interviews? No, completely ignored. Good old 70s 😟

    • @krashd
      @krashd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not today they aren't, in fact most D&D channels on TH-cam have as many female members as male but I doubt that many played back in 1980.

    • @tpower1912
      @tpower1912 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Maybe she just didn't want to talk on television

    • @grangerover500
      @grangerover500 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think it's more likely she was a GW staff member who didn't play RPGs but was roped into the scene to make it look less nerdy!

    • @roguerover30k
      @roguerover30k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol.

  • @tonythetyger99
    @tonythetyger99 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wonder if the non-speaking woman was just dragged in to make it look slightly less weird.

    • @CanadaFree-ce9jn
      @CanadaFree-ce9jn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She may have been either a GF to one of the guys just hanging out, or a woman just checking out the game for the first time to see if she'll like it. All the comments about the woman from men are like, "Yeah, a woman should never have the right to say, "No comment""

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There were actually a lot more around than you might think, particularly in the student end of things. But there were a lot of "male only" groups as well and the media always liked its stereotypes. It`s actually more likely that the rather patronising interviewer is ignoring her because she is a woman doing something "male only".

  • @Journeyman107
    @Journeyman107 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You can see how an ignorant person would interpret what some of these guys are saying as satanic

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think "cult-like" is maybe more accurate.

    • @Journeyman107
      @Journeyman107 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rocket1377 true

  • @gwheregwhizz
    @gwheregwhizz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Clickbait - where's the nurses, teachers with a cane, horse riders with a whip and nuns in stockings and suspenders?

    • @ashleybevis9769
      @ashleybevis9769 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I think that was st trinians lol

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      In your head apparently...

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Working for the BBC. Think about it!

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AbelMcTalisker Monty Python in the 70s.

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alanbeaumont4848 Yes, and others.

  • @HuguettePhalange-st1pe
    @HuguettePhalange-st1pe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope these fine people got to play the 3.5 edition of DnD.

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      By that time a couple of these guys were major players in the game industry so were publishing their own stuff. But certainly would be aware of that version.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Will they ever make a Transatlantic Slave Trade board game?

    • @andywatts8654
      @andywatts8654 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is your Ideas, get it copyrighted 👩🏻‍🦽

    • @krashd
      @krashd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They already have...
      Freedom: The Underground Railroad
      This Guilty Land
      Puerto Rico
      Blackboard
      And then there's the various Endeavor games by Carl de Visser and Jarratt Gray.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@krashd Puerto Rico has no slaves in it, only overseers.

    • @octaviussludberry9016
      @octaviussludberry9016 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why?

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's 'Struggle of Empires.' It's in there but you don't have to play if you don't want to.

  • @LUC66631
    @LUC66631 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taking to looooong and boooooring with thousand rules , i tried it and must say : HELL NO 🤮🤮🤮🤮👎👎👎👎 It is for dudes and dudettes who do not have a life . 😁😁👍👍

    • @ErwinPommel
      @ErwinPommel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh, maybe I should give it a go.

    • @lordhoot1
      @lordhoot1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Whoa, check out this cool customer

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lordhoot1 Or a goldfish with a short attention span!

  • @MrSimonmcc
    @MrSimonmcc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brings to mind The IT Crowd, series 4, episode 1 th-cam.com/video/SyuFLxQZf78/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZDWomZ7Qcn0Ot_rd

    • @simmadpaul2880
      @simmadpaul2880 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Standard NERDS!!!!! 😂😂😂😂