Thanks so much for doing this kind of work. I think you are adding a lot to my appreciation of Frank's music, and I thought I was an expert! I think there is a very good case against what the Zappa Family Trust have done. It's not that the posthumous releases should have stayed unreleased, it's that the marketing and presentation should make it absolutely clear that these are unauthorized works which were not produced or edited by Frank himself. The qualitative difference between the kind of curated masterpieces that Frank continually manufactured is in stark contrast to the sub-par material that the ZFT keep on hauling out of the vault. Broadway The Hard Way is a great example, and I loved the evidence you presented to show the difference with the number of edits in just that one album. I'm assuming that there were a similar number on the other two live albums from this tour. AFAIK Frank only ever officially released one concert, which is the Helsinki one which comprised YCDTOSA Vol 2. That concert was an absolute gem, and Frank knew it (obviously). Knowing how Frank's encyclopedic mind worked he probably had that concert in his plans for the 15 or so years it took to make its appearance, which says everything we need to know about all the other unofficial, badly mixed and edited single concert releases by the ZFT. Thanks again for your excellent contribution to Frank's legacy.
In general, I'm very pleased with the posthumous releases. Some more than others. But on a whole, I'm grateful that we're still getting new stuff. I put in FZ talking about how he could have released a single show and called it a day because, well, the '88 Last Show should have been a compilation of other shows (think BBYNHIYL) with titles that have not been released. The band played 120 songs.. Anyway, that's my opinion.
This is a kind of dream come true for me. I was an obsessed teen in the 00's over FZ and in '11 my first cross-state road-trips were soundtrack'd by this album, I found it very emotionally moving because for me it was the nearest I could ever get to experiencing a Zappa concert in modern times, since this is the last way he sounded on tour. So close to the 90's... I know he'd of morphed yet again and had be been around in the 00's his sound would be fully different yet again, but seeing this footage is so exciting, I'm thrilled to follow this project!
There are at least, AT LEAST, 4 more '88 videos I am working on and will see the light of day. Maybe more depending on how long each one gets. Stay tuned.
It is my intention to do my part by providing new content to the Zappa community. And, hopefully, add to the existing enthusiasm for all things Zappa related. I so enjoy finding interesting Frank Zappa interviews and songs that help serve to shed light on the topic of Conceptual Continuity. wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Category:Conceptual_Continuity Subscribe if this sort of thing appeals to you.
I was at the 1st show of the tour and the last 6 shows of the first leg (NY, PA, MD). Enjoying this breakdown very much. Hard to believe it was 35 years ago.
Your cigarette consumption calculation is WAYYY off. Zappa was known to smoke up to FOUR packs of cigarettes a day (his quote)... that's 80 cigarettes in 16 hours. It was undoubtedly a bit less....BUT...not much. And 20 cups of java (again... probably less... but again... his quote) In other words 4 times your calculation.
I have no argument there. I was pulling those estimates out of my ass. If you can point me to that article, I'd like to read it and adjust accordingly.
@@POODLEBITES I searched arond on google for a bit and didn't find anything specific enough, but he did say it on more than one occasion. But just to give you a ball park idea... in concert he would smoke a cigarette for almost every solo...it would stay in the stock of his guitar so he only smoked about a third of it...BUT... that was seven times in 2 hours... and he smoked other cigarettes in the same shows whenever he had a chsnce... during band improvisations mostly. He easily smoked 3 cigs an hour... for 16 hours. And the same goes for coffee... he drank A LOT.
There are people who pop in and watch these videos who support the man. I try to steer clear of politics and just put Franks own words out there. Let everyone watch and listen and judge for themselves. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks so much for doing this kind of work. I think you are adding a lot to my appreciation of Frank's music, and I thought I was an expert!
I think there is a very good case against what the Zappa Family Trust have done. It's not that the posthumous releases should have stayed unreleased, it's that the marketing and presentation should make it absolutely clear that these are unauthorized works which were not produced or edited by Frank himself. The qualitative difference between the kind of curated masterpieces that Frank continually manufactured is in stark contrast to the sub-par material that the ZFT keep on hauling out of the vault.
Broadway The Hard Way is a great example, and I loved the evidence you presented to show the difference with the number of edits in just that one album. I'm assuming that there were a similar number on the other two live albums from this tour.
AFAIK Frank only ever officially released one concert, which is the Helsinki one which comprised YCDTOSA Vol 2. That concert was an absolute gem, and Frank knew it (obviously). Knowing how Frank's encyclopedic mind worked he probably had that concert in his plans for the 15 or so years it took to make its appearance, which says everything we need to know about all the other unofficial, badly mixed and edited single concert releases by the ZFT.
Thanks again for your excellent contribution to Frank's legacy.
@@Frunobulax74 Oh, I didn't know that about Helsinki. Thanks!
In general, I'm very pleased with the posthumous releases. Some more than others. But on a whole, I'm grateful that we're still getting new stuff. I put in FZ talking about how he could have released a single show and called it a day because, well, the '88 Last Show should have been a compilation of other shows (think BBYNHIYL) with titles that have not been released. The band played 120 songs.. Anyway, that's my opinion.
This is a kind of dream come true for me. I was an obsessed teen in the 00's over FZ and in '11 my first cross-state road-trips were soundtrack'd by this album, I found it very emotionally moving because for me it was the nearest I could ever get to experiencing a Zappa concert in modern times, since this is the last way he sounded on tour. So close to the 90's... I know he'd of morphed yet again and had be been around in the 00's his sound would be fully different yet again, but seeing this footage is so exciting, I'm thrilled to follow this project!
There are at least, AT LEAST, 4 more '88 videos I am working on and will see the light of day. Maybe more depending on how long each one gets. Stay tuned.
It is my intention to do my part by providing new content to the Zappa community. And, hopefully, add to the existing enthusiasm for all things Zappa related.
I so enjoy finding interesting Frank Zappa interviews and songs that help serve to shed light on the topic of Conceptual Continuity.
wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Category:Conceptual_Continuity
Subscribe if this sort of thing appeals to you.
I was at the 1st show of the tour and the last 6 shows of the first leg (NY, PA, MD). Enjoying this breakdown very much. Hard to believe it was 35 years ago.
Right? I rmember the shows I caught. Doesn't seem that long ago.
I saw that tour at the Royal Oak Music Theatre,,,one of the best shows I ever saw
Glad you have that memory.
Your cigarette consumption calculation is WAYYY off. Zappa was known to smoke up to FOUR packs of cigarettes a day (his quote)... that's 80 cigarettes in 16 hours.
It was undoubtedly a bit less....BUT...not much.
And 20 cups of java (again... probably less... but again... his quote)
In other words 4 times your calculation.
I have no argument there. I was pulling those estimates out of my ass. If you can point me to that article, I'd like to read it and adjust accordingly.
@@POODLEBITES I searched arond on google for a bit and didn't find anything specific enough, but he did say it on more than one occasion. But just to give you a ball park idea... in concert he would smoke a cigarette for almost every solo...it would stay in the stock of his guitar so he only smoked about a third of it...BUT... that was seven times in 2 hours... and he smoked other cigarettes in the same shows whenever he had a chsnce... during band improvisations mostly. He easily smoked 3 cigs an hour... for 16 hours. And the same goes for coffee... he drank A LOT.
"Facts are stupid things". Donald Trump
There are people who pop in and watch these videos who support the man. I try to steer clear of politics and just put Franks own words out there. Let everyone watch and listen and judge for themselves. Thanks for the comment.
Ha ha, I see what you did there.