Thanks for the video. Been around those monitors for years now. Standard at industrial printing facilities. This built in calibrator is the game changer. I wonder how this monitor compares to the pro monitor Apple sells for almost 6k 😅
Good Video Karl Worked with Eizo screens since '97 They are more expensive but they are worth the money. And for that price getting the flag ship Eizo monitor is not a bad deal. Thanks for sharing
Great review. As a video editor and colourist though, I'm interested in black levels. While I wouldn't expect OLED standard from an IPS panel, how black are the blacks?
This exact same monitor costs 3,500 US Dollars here in the US. But, Eizo still sells a Color Edge CS2740 27” 4K monitor for USD 1,800 and you can add the hood for USD 190, which in my opinion is a better choice for a photographer. At least is the one I would choose.
@@VisualEducationStudio basically the only difference is that this one in the review is a HDR monitor, and maybe some small design differences. but from the functionality point of view, not much difference. I don’t need an HDR monitor, in my opinion this is more useful for people who edit videos that where recorded in 4K HDR.
CS2740 and CG2700S is not the same. Its totally different panels, which can be seen in calibration data, contrast and brightness figures. Moreover the CG2700X has built in sensor and a lot of other gizmos. G2700X before calibration www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/EIZO-CG2700X-werkseinstellung.pdf CS2740 www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Eizo-CS2740-native.pdf
@@Guairenitohey, good choice both but cg line is superior to cs. The most apparent difference is the depth of black. Cg is more contrasty and brighter. It has a self calibrator too.
High PPI is an absolute gamechanger! I use 27" 5120x2880 (217 PPI) Philips monitor for photo editing and I'm dying for years for Eizo to release a monitor like this
In this video you see Ben using three monitors, the one we reviewed was in the middle. A CG2700S 2K was the one on the right and it's colour accuracy was pretty much the same and it's self calibrating but it's not as sharp to look at on fine text etc.
Great review. Agreed, 27" is the sweet-spot size-wise. 24" was too small, 31" too large, 27"... just right! I currently run (3) 27" monitors side-by-side, all three were NEC's, but recently I swapped out one for an Apple Studio Display 5K to try it out. The ASD has lots of advantages, unfortunately it falls short in the Adobe RGB Gamut department (about 85%) but covers about 99% P3. ASD is 218ppi, instant on (on Macs), keyboard controls (on Macs), native palette sizing default, etc. I have always worked predominately toward "print" targeted workflows in the past, but I have to face the fact that (in my case) most of my work never ends up in print anymore (more so every year). For print work Eizo is pretty much the "king"! IMO
I wonder why especially Eizo and NEC with their great yet pricey monitors haven’t followed Apple and their monitors in terms of resolution and bumped the resolution of the 27“ to 5K and the 31.5“ to 6K. But than the necessary panels of that size and resolution aren’t available at the quality these companies want, especially when it comes to colour accuracy and uniformity. But anyway, great review 👍. Seems to be a great monitor, but what else would you expect from a company like Eizo. And never mind the pronunciation, at my age of 55 I’ve been pronouncing it in the same incorrect way as you for as long as I can think 😂
1. Do you use the monitor in a scaled resolution or at native resolution? And does that depend on retouching vs just regular use? 2. Can you speak on evaluating sharpness (for print) and focus accuracy on a 4K monitor vs a 2.5K monitor? thank you
Thanks for the great review as always Karl. I understand the display delivers you sharper looking visually in term of reduction of the screen size from 31 to 27. Have you tested the impression for printing result accuracy retouched by this new monitor? If the screen is looking sharper, does it confuse you the amount of contrast you may apply during the post production stage? Or maybe just need some experience to get used to it? I also use Eizo self-calibrated monitor, and I remember it effected level of my contrast adjustment when I just switched from glossy Apple screen.
Hi not any different for print compared to my 31. The Eizo's always represent more accurately what you would get from a calibrated printer but prints always look a bit flatter depending on the display conditions, so I have a couple of processes for enhancing my images before they go to print.
Thank you for your review. What kind of environmental lighting do you use to match the monitor's D65 calibration? like 6500K? maybe that s too blue... thnx
Here’s a question the older display, how many hours does the EIZO software say it’s been running? I would assume because it is older by a couple years there’s been a little bit of drifting would be acceptable. Also, are you calibrating the monitor with display port or USB-C?
Sorry : Can anyone tell me what gross confusion I might be doing ? : I think I heard somewhere that some option sounding like "pretending using it for tv-screening" will make it more fluide for Lightrrom-sliders... ?? (I AM about to purchase this 2700X any tricks and knowhow exchange plateforme regarding This Eizo and HP Z2 G9 Mini...apreciated - even though I have decades of Adobe and fineartprinting experience..I switched off geek the last 7 jears or so (what will be the best interconnection-cable for instance..?).. Thanks !
Hi Ben, I', a colorist and art director here in Japan, and I followed your video and bought exactly this monitor. I have the 31 inches at my office and I like this monitor much more. What I noticed is that the calibrator is not as precise as calibrating the monitor with the X-Rite 1-Display. I tested many times, and I was getting crazy! I couldn't get a good color skin from the self-calibrator! Yes, I know it sounds crazy but that was my result. As I work with both color grading on Rec709 and photos on Adobe RGB, I found my REC709 was way too green. Then I tried the X-Rite and gave me a better result. Kind of similar to what I have on my 31". Both monitors have a self-calibrator but the results are quit different. I wonder If I got a loonie monitor! Cheers!
I experienced the green tint you speak of and actually just bought this recently as well. I ended up resetting it and the default was back to normal. Then I calibrated the user slot back to its native state with the internal (bc i think thats how it wants to work). For some reason, doing that made the rest fall into place. But I think ill be getting myself an XRite because I feel like im going crazy. I know the APAC Eizo guys recommend correlating the internal sensor to a good spectrophotometer but the amount of money for one of those is astronimical. Im curious, did you have the same issue with running a clean video signal and also through the usb cable?
When a monitor is calibrated (auto or manual), isn't it just really calibrating the spot that's directly under the sensor? How do you know the rest of the monitor area is also calibrated correctly? If there are very tiny variations across the monitor in the LCD pixels, driver circuitry, etc., it seems like those areas wouldn't be calibrated right.
Yes that's correct. The highest quality monitors guarantee a uniformity of the pixels areas over the whole monitor. So one area will always be equal to another, the weakest areas are often at the edge of a monitor but in a few centimeters from the edge and you'll be fine.
The CE models are great but 4K on 27" is not a good match. Much better off with 1440p on that screen estate. 4K demands the 31.9" model and of course that cost an arm and a leg. I've owned several Eizo CE models, they really stand out, however I do think they should reconsider their price strategy, they are not very competative. Today we have monitors costing half the price for perhaps 80,% of the same capasity.
Not sure what you mean by “not a good match”. There are countless models from many manufacturers who obviously know better. Perhaps you’re thinking of gaming? Or maybe the persisting myth that Mac computers can’t display that resolution? Either way, scaling is achieved by the display card and as you can see from the zooming shown, there is no resolution conflict as you imply. Photographers and video colorists need absolute color accuracy which monitors costing ‘half the price’ cannot achieve. That need justifies a very hard to achieve 100% spec and that costs money. The needs of music production, gaming, and entertainment are so much lower and those users can indeed spend half the price and be perfectly served.
Hi Karl. Question about retouching. Would it be an advantage in Photoshop to highly increase the image resolution simply to see fine detail. When completed retouching reduce image resolution to what is needed.
Hi, no not really. If you were to increase the resolution beyond what was originally there then you are doing something called interpolating which is where the software guesses which pixels to add. If you do this it is best done with Gigapixel or PS super resolution. If I have to do that I prefer to do it after the whole retouch is complete.
Hi Karl, what Mac display settings are you using for this monitor? If I use "Default for Display" everything comes up looking rather large. Are you using a "Scaled: option? if so which one? thanks
Got one in my basket 2700x at wex……. Wondering though, is it ok to use usb c to mac studio desktop IF the usb c sends power for laptop charging????? Thanks Carl
I have a very small living and editing situation (a van), and I’m thinking about getting this monitor to function great for photo editing for work, but also run an external DVD/blue ray player and switch to use for watching movies. I’ve always thought that using a dedicated professional photo editing monitor for casually watching movies, might have detrimental effects on the image quality and calibration settings over time. As long as I calibrate it every time I use it for editing, I’ll be okay?
Hi, it won't have any detrimental effect and you can run a direct HDMI cable from your laptop or apple tv box or whatever directly into the monitor to view movies too if you need. The monitor self calibrates every 200 hours or so to keep itself on point. After many years the colour of the monitor might shift ever so slightly but that's nothing to worry about in the short term, my Eizo is on 10 hours per day 5 days per week, it doesn't matter whether that was retouching or watching movies.
Wouldn't a OLED monitor give better color? Because you can get now 27inch 4K OLED displays like the LG 27GR95QE-B for less than half of this price and it also has 240Hz!
OLED's has their issues. Yes, better blacks, but not good in the grey tones instead. Moreover the Oled usually has quite poor brightness, and that the blue color ends much faster than the other colors.
Seriously? Or are you just kidding? In what way would an OLED screen offer better colour? Definitely cannot compare when it comes to colour accuracy or dead neutral greyscale, and of course the white point is going to be far more accurate than an OLED. The only thing I can think of which an OLED can compete with the current top end Eizo screen is for the black level, but for photographic work, this is an absolutely useless benefit. With the intensely dark black level of OLED screens, it just gets all crunched up and muddying the darkest shadow tones to the point that many tones can’t be easily distinguished from each other. I’m curious, in what way do you think an OLED screen could possibly offer “better colour” than this Eizo CG2700X and which brand and model specifically?
@@VisualEducationStudio Thanks Karl, yeah since they're rated to 10,000 without drift I wouldn't expect the color shift. Makes me curious. I've wondered about mine as well but in some ways I don't want to open up that can of worms.
To be honest MacBook Pro screens are on average pretty good, they're sharp but the contrast is often out and the colour sometimes less accurate so I wouldn't rely on them for very precise work.
Hey Experts, which monitor would you prefer between the ProArt Display OLED PA32DC, which is a OLED color grading monitor and the EIZO CG2700X which is an IPS color accurate monitor ? I would use it for Photography and Visual Effects for feature films.
@@VisualEducationStudio So the Eizo wins over the OLED Pro Art ? They are the same price in Australia and both used by high end VFX facilities. Ok thanks.
I am currently using a new Apple 27" Studio Display and I manually calibrate using the Calibrate Color Checker system. Manually calibrating a monitor is easy enough for me to do regularly and it's a 5K monitor. I've been quite pleased with it, but I have no experience with Eizo monitors and I am curious to know how significantly better the one being reviewed is to justify me investing in one. Is the color that much more accurate and consistent? It has less resolution then Apple's, so there must be something fairly significant for this to be a preferred choice. Anyone?
Thanks for the video. Been around those monitors for years now. Standard at industrial printing facilities. This built in calibrator is the game changer. I wonder how this monitor compares to the pro monitor Apple sells for almost 6k 😅
Good Video Karl
Worked with Eizo screens since '97
They are more expensive but they are worth the money.
And for that price getting the flag ship Eizo monitor is not a bad deal.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks RS
Great review. As a video editor and colourist though, I'm interested in black levels. While I wouldn't expect OLED standard from an IPS panel, how black are the blacks?
please can you also review the CG2700S vesion. thanks
carl just figured out that a higher Pixel density and lower Pixel pitch makes things look sharper. you saw it here first.
This exact same monitor costs 3,500 US Dollars here in the US. But, Eizo still sells a Color Edge CS2740 27” 4K monitor for USD 1,800 and you can add the hood for USD 190, which in my opinion is a better choice for a photographer. At least is the one I would choose.
Why do you think it is a better choice for photographers when the CS series aren't as refined for colour accuracy as the CG series?
@@VisualEducationStudio basically the only difference is that this one in the review is a HDR monitor, and maybe some small design differences. but from the functionality point of view, not much difference. I don’t need an HDR monitor, in my opinion this is more useful for people who edit videos that where recorded in 4K HDR.
CS2740 and CG2700S is not the same. Its totally different panels, which can be seen in calibration data, contrast and brightness figures. Moreover the CG2700X has built in sensor and a lot of other gizmos. G2700X before calibration www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/EIZO-CG2700X-werkseinstellung.pdf CS2740 www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Eizo-CS2740-native.pdf
@@Guairenitohey, good choice both but cg line is superior to cs. The most apparent difference is the depth of black. Cg is more contrasty and brighter. It has a self calibrator too.
I work with digital print with Xerox printers and I think that many costumers that I talk to should see this video
Habits are hard to change 😊
Thnx! What kind of lighting setup or temperature do you use for around your office?
High PPI is an absolute gamechanger!
I use 27" 5120x2880 (217 PPI) Philips monitor for photo editing and I'm dying for years for Eizo to release a monitor like this
Cant wait till Carl discovers a 5K monitor.
There is also the EIZO ColorEdge CG2700S (The 2K version about 25% cheaper).
What do you thing about this for a photograph (No video)?
I was wondering this too. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks.
In this video you see Ben using three monitors, the one we reviewed was in the middle. A CG2700S 2K was the one on the right and it's colour accuracy was pretty much the same and it's self calibrating but it's not as sharp to look at on fine text etc.
@@VisualEducationStudio Thanks a lot for the explanation
@@VisualEducationStudio thank you 😊
If I had a desktop, might consider a 27in monitor. Looks good.
Great review. Agreed, 27" is the sweet-spot size-wise. 24" was too small, 31" too large, 27"... just right! I currently run (3) 27" monitors side-by-side, all three were NEC's, but recently I swapped out one for an Apple Studio Display 5K to try it out. The ASD has lots of advantages, unfortunately it falls short in the Adobe RGB Gamut department (about 85%) but covers about 99% P3. ASD is 218ppi, instant on (on Macs), keyboard controls (on Macs), native palette sizing default, etc. I have always worked predominately toward "print" targeted workflows in the past, but I have to face the fact that (in my case) most of my work never ends up in print anymore (more so every year). For print work Eizo is pretty much the "king"! IMO
Thank you, yes I'm much happier size wise. I've had this one on my desk for a couple of weeks now instead of the 31 and it's better for me.
for photographic use only, what do you think of the cg2700s model?
@@silvanocutrone9210 I do have the same question.
Have you tried the CG319x?
I wonder why especially Eizo and NEC with their great yet pricey monitors haven’t followed Apple and their monitors in terms of resolution and bumped the resolution of the 27“ to 5K and the 31.5“ to 6K. But than the necessary panels of that size and resolution aren’t available at the quality these companies want, especially when it comes to colour accuracy and uniformity.
But anyway, great review 👍. Seems to be a great monitor, but what else would you expect from a company like Eizo.
And never mind the pronunciation, at my age of 55 I’ve been pronouncing it in the same incorrect way as you for as long as I can think 😂
1. Do you use the monitor in a scaled resolution or at native resolution? And does that depend on retouching vs just regular use?
2. Can you speak on evaluating sharpness (for print) and focus accuracy on a 4K monitor vs a 2.5K monitor?
thank you
Scaled to give smaller menus
I would also be interested in the answer to your second question.
Thanks for the great review as always Karl.
I understand the display delivers you sharper looking visually in term of reduction of the screen size from 31 to 27.
Have you tested the impression for printing result accuracy retouched by this new monitor?
If the screen is looking sharper, does it confuse you the amount of contrast you may apply during the post production stage?
Or maybe just need some experience to get used to it?
I also use Eizo self-calibrated monitor, and I remember it effected level of my contrast adjustment when I just switched from glossy Apple screen.
Hi not any different for print compared to my 31. The Eizo's always represent more accurately what you would get from a calibrated printer but prints always look a bit flatter depending on the display conditions, so I have a couple of processes for enhancing my images before they go to print.
Did you validate your calibration result? I mean technically not visually....
I want them to release a Mini-LED monitor
Thank you for your review. What kind of environmental lighting do you use to match the monitor's D65 calibration? like 6500K? maybe that s too blue... thnx
Here’s a question the older display, how many hours does the EIZO software say it’s been running? I would assume because it is older by a couple years there’s been a little bit of drifting would be acceptable. Also, are you calibrating the monitor with display port or USB-C?
Sorry : Can anyone tell me what gross confusion I might be doing ? :
I think I heard somewhere that some option sounding like "pretending using it for tv-screening" will make it more fluide for Lightrrom-sliders... ??
(I AM about to purchase this 2700X
any tricks and knowhow exchange plateforme regarding This Eizo and HP Z2 G9 Mini...apreciated - even though I have decades of Adobe and fineartprinting experience..I switched off geek the last 7 jears or so (what will be the best interconnection-cable for instance..?)..
Thanks !
Hi Ben, I', a colorist and art director here in Japan, and I followed your video and bought exactly this monitor.
I have the 31 inches at my office and I like this monitor much more. What I noticed is that the calibrator is not as precise as calibrating the monitor with the X-Rite 1-Display. I tested many times, and I was getting crazy! I couldn't get a good color skin from the self-calibrator! Yes, I know it sounds crazy but that was my result. As I work with both color grading on Rec709 and photos on Adobe RGB, I found my REC709 was way too green. Then I tried the X-Rite and gave me a better result. Kind of similar to what I have on my 31". Both monitors have a self-calibrator but the results are quit different. I wonder If I got a loonie monitor! Cheers!
I experienced the green tint you speak of and actually just bought this recently as well. I ended up resetting it and the default was back to normal. Then I calibrated the user slot back to its native state with the internal (bc i think thats how it wants to work). For some reason, doing that made the rest fall into place. But I think ill be getting myself an XRite because I feel like im going crazy. I know the APAC Eizo guys recommend correlating the internal sensor to a good spectrophotometer but the amount of money for one of those is astronimical.
Im curious, did you have the same issue with running a clean video signal and also through the usb cable?
nice video as always thx but missed the links so by clicking makes u few cents..
Hi compared to you I'm complete amateur, but what I wonder,what is the black level on this monitor-black black or black bluish?Thanx for any answers!
When a monitor is calibrated (auto or manual), isn't it just really calibrating the spot that's directly under the sensor? How do you know the rest of the monitor area is also calibrated correctly? If there are very tiny variations across the monitor in the LCD pixels, driver circuitry, etc., it seems like those areas wouldn't be calibrated right.
Yes that's correct. The highest quality monitors guarantee a uniformity of the pixels areas over the whole monitor. So one area will always be equal to another, the weakest areas are often at the edge of a monitor but in a few centimeters from the edge and you'll be fine.
19:41 at B&H the 1440p is $2519 USD. The 4K is $3489 USD.
In the UK the CG2700X 4K is £2400
@@VisualEducationStudio $1534 USD difference. Hmm.
It seems to be slightly cheaper here without the tax: www.jigsaw24.com/products/eizo-colouredge-cg2700x-27-self-calibrating-4k-x378baa
WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE CG2700S FOR GRADING VIDEOS ?
The CE models are great but 4K on 27" is not a good match. Much better off with 1440p on that screen estate. 4K demands the 31.9" model and of course that cost an arm and a leg. I've owned several Eizo CE models, they really stand out, however I do think they should reconsider their price strategy, they are not very competative. Today we have monitors costing half the price for perhaps 80,% of the same capasity.
Not sure what you mean by “not a good match”. There are countless models from many manufacturers who obviously know better. Perhaps you’re thinking of gaming? Or maybe the persisting myth that Mac computers can’t display that resolution? Either way, scaling is achieved by the display card and as you can see from the zooming shown, there is no resolution conflict as you imply.
Photographers and video colorists need absolute color accuracy which monitors costing ‘half the price’ cannot achieve. That need justifies a very hard to achieve 100% spec and that costs money. The needs of music production, gaming, and entertainment are so much lower and those users can indeed spend half the price and be perfectly served.
Hi Karl. Question about retouching. Would it be an advantage in Photoshop to highly increase the image resolution simply to see fine detail. When completed retouching reduce image resolution to what is needed.
Hi, no not really. If you were to increase the resolution beyond what was originally there then you are doing something called interpolating which is where the software guesses which pixels to add. If you do this it is best done with Gigapixel or PS super resolution. If I have to do that I prefer to do it after the whole retouch is complete.
Hi Karl, what Mac display settings are you using for this monitor? If I use "Default for Display" everything comes up looking rather large. Are you using a "Scaled: option? if so which one? thanks
I use scaled, the second one from the right
Got one in my basket 2700x at wex……. Wondering though, is it ok to use usb c to mac studio desktop IF the usb c sends power for laptop charging?????
Thanks Carl
Yes no problem at all
I have a very small living and editing situation (a van), and I’m thinking about getting this monitor to function great for photo editing for work, but also run an external DVD/blue ray player and switch to use for watching movies. I’ve always thought that using a dedicated professional photo editing monitor for casually watching movies, might have detrimental effects on the image quality and calibration settings over time. As long as I calibrate it every time I use it for editing, I’ll be okay?
Hi, it won't have any detrimental effect and you can run a direct HDMI cable from your laptop or apple tv box or whatever directly into the monitor to view movies too if you need. The monitor self calibrates every 200 hours or so to keep itself on point. After many years the colour of the monitor might shift ever so slightly but that's nothing to worry about in the short term, my Eizo is on 10 hours per day 5 days per week, it doesn't matter whether that was retouching or watching movies.
Wouldn't a OLED monitor give better color? Because you can get now 27inch 4K OLED displays like the LG 27GR95QE-B for less than half of this price and it also has 240Hz!
OLED's has their issues. Yes, better blacks, but not good in the grey tones instead. Moreover the Oled usually has quite poor brightness, and that the blue color ends much faster than the other colors.
Seriously? Or are you just kidding? In what way would an OLED screen offer better colour? Definitely cannot compare when it comes to colour accuracy or dead neutral greyscale, and of course the white point is going to be far more accurate than an OLED. The only thing I can think of which an OLED can compete with the current top end Eizo screen is for the black level, but for photographic work, this is an absolutely useless benefit. With the intensely dark black level of OLED screens, it just gets all crunched up and muddying the darkest shadow tones to the point that many tones can’t be easily distinguished from each other.
I’m curious, in what way do you think an OLED screen could possibly offer “better colour” than this Eizo CG2700X and which brand and model specifically?
Karl, how many hours are on your cg318? I’m curious about the base color neutral magenta shift. I’m running a similar monitor.
6,693 hours.
@@VisualEducationStudio Thanks Karl, yeah since they're rated to 10,000 without drift I wouldn't expect the color shift. Makes me curious. I've wondered about mine as well but in some ways I don't want to open up that can of worms.
Understood, but to be fair the difference was barely noticeable and probably exaggerated by the video.
How does it match with the MacBook Pro? Do you have to change settings or calibration? Thanks!
To be honest MacBook Pro screens are on average pretty good, they're sharp but the contrast is often out and the colour sometimes less accurate so I wouldn't rely on them for very precise work.
@@VisualEducationStudio Thanks for the help. I appreciate and admire all your work and respect your opinion greatly!
Hey Experts, which monitor would you prefer between the ProArt Display OLED PA32DC, which is a OLED color grading monitor and the EIZO CG2700X which is an IPS color accurate monitor ? I would use it for Photography and Visual Effects for feature films.
Hi, we think this video made it pretty clear.
@@VisualEducationStudio So the Eizo wins over the OLED Pro Art ? They are the same price in Australia and both used by high end VFX facilities. Ok thanks.
Mr Taylor, how would you compare these monitors to the Asus Proart PA279CV
See our other videos
@@VisualEducationStudio do you have any videos specific to The Proart Asus
Is this Karl Taylor Education, renamed?
Yes our company has rebranded, you can read why here: visualeducation.com/what-is-visual-education-qa-with-karl-taylor/
I sell EIZO monitor，you review very ok.
Good to hear
I am currently using a new Apple 27" Studio Display and I manually calibrate using the Calibrate Color Checker system. Manually calibrating a monitor is easy enough for me to do regularly and it's a 5K monitor. I've been quite pleased with it, but I have no experience with Eizo monitors and I am curious to know how significantly better the one being reviewed is to justify me investing in one. Is the color that much more accurate and consistent? It has less resolution then Apple's, so there must be something fairly significant for this to be a preferred choice. Anyone?
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Good review but i need test in games on this monitor. Go Cyberpunk 2077, WD Legion and more.
Ok, this will be my next 👍🏻
Hi Karl, what luminance do you use while tethering? Does it change when you calibrate the monitor for retouching? Thank you
Hi, I'm always running around 140c/d as mentioned in this video
@@VisualEducationStudiothank you