REPOINTING STONE WORK (Part 2) Mike Haduck
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- In this video I show how I point up a wall from the WPA era, using a dryer pack of Portland cement, Its just another way to do it. All my videos are my ways and Ideas, I always suggest anyone doing any type of work to consult professional help www.amazon.com...
Many thanks Mike, you're a saviour. I tried to repoint my 100+ year old flint wall a few years back, but gave up as my attempts were very poor. Your help has now spurred me on to finally do it. I have picked up so many tips from you and I am very pleased with the professional looking results that I'm now achieving. :)
Thanks Mike. I like your videos. They are simple and to the point. You are no nonsense and clearly skilled. Albeit I am not afraid to try new skills, you make it so anyone could try and be successful. With gratitude, Jon
Hi, jon,,, just do a little practice on the side where no one sees it, you will get better as you go, thanks Mike
Mike you are awesome. I have learned so much from you. I love the fact that you are so practical. Thanks for all your informative videos. Keep up the good work.
+Ken Mashti I appreciate it. I try, thanks mike
Fantastic. The stone wall around my driveway needs to be repaired and your videos are a great resource. Thanks so much, very appreciated.
I hope they help, thanks mike
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I always wondered how the builders done them fancy joints on stone buildings. Thanks Mike. Top class
thanks Patrick, I appreciate it. mike
Mike, you have the best sense of humor! God Bless you brother...
Thanks , God bless also, mike
Thanks again ,Mike . I have added masonry to my business as result of your many instructional videos . Although I am not as polished as I should be I get the job done .
thanks albert, I hope it pays off for you, and I wish you well, I appreciate it. mike
Always good to see craftsmen who still work with their hands instead of leaning against their truck with an iPhone while helpers do the work....Im 65 and still a bags on carpenter.
thanks afriend, Us old schoolers got to keep it going, I appreciate it. mike
Mike - I am a total novice, beginner and admittedly, don't know my way around any home projects... I've been watching many of your videos, (specifically re-pointing stone walls and how to), and you are giving me tools, skills and confidence to tackle the job myself, but with a more casual approach. You calm demeanor makes me realize that the job might not be totally perfect and that is OK as long as it works. So, I'll echo many others previous comments of thanks. I do have a couple questions: what tools do you recommend? All I have is a wheelbarrow and a hose....what stuff should I get at Home Depot to execute my old stone wall repointing job? Thank you in advance and THANK YOU for your videos, sir!
I realize it is kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to watch new movies online?
Mike, you just became my teacher at how to repoint and rope a stone wall. I will be doing mine next week, and will tell you how it turns out.
Thanks Roberto, Mike
Hey Mike, an old Mason showed me how to do that square stone look pointing in England, he called it tuck pointing. He laid the mortar 1/1 on the joints and then used a fork with one prong broken out of the centre and a level to mark the line across and plumb it up, gives you about a half inch mark and then he scraped away from the line in both directions, leaving the square look, worked great! Keep up the good work!
Hi William, yes I have seen that and remember the broken forks, I should have remembered that thanks for the input, Mike
I have seen it done using a soup spoon with a half inch notch in the center of it. Remember!...there is no right or wrong way in doing masonry as long as it works...bon appetite.
Outstanding video! I will now try to repair my stone wall. Thanks a lot, Mike.
+Billy Ripp thanks, I hope it works out, mike
Mike, I'm learning so much from you and your wonderful videos. Thank you so much. I'm now tackling jobs around the house I never had the courage to before. Thanks pal.
I appreciate it, I hope it helps, thanks mike
BETTER HELP THAN THE PREVIOUS 15 VIDEOS I WATCHED. TY MUCH MIKE !!!
Thanks Big Dog, mike
Mike, you're a masonry master, nicely done sir!!
+GunsHarleysUSA I appreciate it. I am just passing along what I learned from the old timers, thanks mike
Mike, your tips of the trades brings me back to when I was a young teenager working with the old time bricklayers in Philadelphia. They had the same work ethic and style you show in your video's, THANKS
+1pmu thank you for the kind reply, I appreciate it. mike
another fine video, I do enjoy learning from you. Thanks
+allamakee1397 thanks, I appreciate it. mike
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I like how well you explain things. I am doing a job like this one and will use your advice
Thanks, I hope you do well, Mike
I love the look of the roping and I actually was going to do roping on a small retaining wall I finished but I just don't have the patience. They had to have been perfectionists. I consider myself a perfectionist but this roping is a bridge too far for me. Beautiful work Mike, as always. Over five years ago, how time flies.
True,. How time flys, Mike
So That’s how the roping is done! Amazing!! Thank you!
Hi Margery, yes check out part 7, I show it in detail there, thanks Mike
thanks Mike - I learned a lot. I want to repair the stone wall my Grampa built around our cottage in Wisconsin. The stones here are round boulders.
hi Kirsten, you can do it. thanks mike
You remind me of working with my dad, he’d show me something and say, “just like that” 😊
Thanks cw, Mike
I gotta say I like how you say "How I (whatever) do this" not how to do it. You accept that your way maybe the best or not the best. Just something I like.
+LilFluffBall thanks, I guess that is the way I really feel about it. thanks again. mike
I set a box in at the Turkey Hill next to the used Eyeglass box I don't want you to give her that old cemented up thing - toothbrush .lol Once again you did a great job on the wall #1
+Don Baus she was wondering what happed to the toothbrush? LOL, thanks mike
Great video. I've been putting off fixing my stone wall but now I have lots of snakes. Gotta do it and your video helped. Love the Shi ca go accent. Da Bears
one fairly obvious issue is the open laid top stone arrangement on top.
aside from weathering of the lime component, it would seem like the water on top constantly soaked down through the joints deep into the wall interior.
nice job.
bull dozing large stone is a days work when doing it by hand Mike.
thanks pensive, I appreciate it. mike
Really enjoy your videos. Here in New England we have a 100+ year old house with unfinished basement and the foundation walls were built with very large stones, much bigger than the wall stones of a basement in one of your videos. I like the simplicity of your mortar mixes. Since we live in a high water table, a few people have suggested that I repoint with hydraulic cement. This as you know can get expensive and difficult to work with; what mortar would you suggest I use so that it stops leaks and is flexible enough to withstand the freeze/thaw of the Northeast. Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Thanks V , I have videos on “Stone foundation repair, “(Mike haduck), , I show every type of mix I use in that series, thanks, mike
Love every moment when watching your videos my dear friend
Thanks , I appreciate it, mike
Ok, that was funny about girlfriends toothbrush 😂
Thanks, lol, Mike
The Master Mason! Rock ON! Great work Mike
+Jaime Visions In Stone I am just passing it along, thanks Jaime, mike
I like your comment "the old timers used a level because they were freaks". I imagine roping or grapevine must have been very time consuming for work projects? Thanks for the video.
Thanks Marc, mike
They must have been time consuming but they sure do make a real nice job!
Don’t forget that the WPA was started to make sure that men had work to do during the great depression. Time consuming was a good thing and kept more people working. The way business is going we’re all going to wind up living in 3-D printed plastic boxes because they’re more profitable, i.e. less labor intensive, to build.
@@janderson8401 It's a frightening thought.
This job looks great Mike !
thanks Peter, mike
Hi Mike, thanks for all the great content, now I know more about Pennsylvania then my own hometown in Sweden😂. I’ve been warned from mixing mortar and cements too dry, or “earth wet” it’s called over here because it gets too hard for repointing old brick, ever had that problem?
Hi Carl, nice to hear from Sweeden, I never had problems the way I done things, other masons have their their own opinion, thanks, Mike
So i was researching how to repoint a stone wall (granite) and was wondering why almost every website source (mainly from UK) insists on using a pure lime mortar and warning about cement usage. But then people here in Czech Republic are saying use 1:3 or even 1:1 cement/sand mix for pointing.
But from my understanding the mortar mix should be always weaker than the rock right ?
Hi, a rule of thumb is the cement or mortar should be softer than the product ( brick , stone etc) I have a video out called " lime , mortar or portland" what should I use? Mike haduck, I explain it best there, thanks Mike
The lime mortar (sand/lime) is more expensive, takes longer to cure, and won't last as long as cement-based mortar. But it will wick out water much better from the stone and keep it lasting longer. I have some lime mortar still intact and it's amazing how quickly it absorbs/dries water. That said, unless you're preserving a castle or other historical building, it's probably best to use cement-based mortar and simply replace stones if they fail. Should last at least 10 years anyways. Stone can flake and break with any type of mortar if subjected to lots of continual moisture and freeze/thaw.
yea Mike,I appreciate it too because I ga repointing job to do,but I will start with the ceiling slabs,n I hope is the same technique.
this is a great video Mike. You've helped me a lot. Greetings from England
Hi Bob, great to hear from England, thanks mike
Thank you sir, much appreciated. Have some stone veneer on my home I'm going to tuck-point myself.
Thanks Tim, I am sure you will do fine, mike
@@MikeHaduck Thanks to you and others putting great content out like this!
Good job. Simple and effective.
thanks java, mike
Thanks Mike a lot of help.
Thanks Tonyj, Mike
Thank you so much for your guidance. I will attempt to do this on my stone walls. 1 question, can I use the prepared cement instead of using the sand and Portland method?
Hi BZB, sometimes I use the pre mix s mortar, but I might add a little Portland to be sure but if it is laying flat like a stone patio I use Portland and sand only, thanks mike
Im buying a house in need of stone foundation repointing. I have not herd about repointing before this the more i look into it the more im excited to tackle it because its something ive never done or seen done before now. any suggestions beside try a small unseen area first? love the channel subscribed!
thanks Felix, I think if you start with a sample or unseen part first , that will give you a feel to continue, I am sure you can do it. I appreciate it thanks mike
Re: Sand, which to choose?
In the town I live in, there is a Home Depot, which is the only store that sells masonry supplies. They sell only 2 kinds of sand.
All Purpose sand, and Play sand. Which would be best for masonry work?
Hi mu,,, some products come with the sand in it, I use either to. Or you can go to a landscaping supply company and ask for Mason sand, thanks Mike
My Civil War vintage house has that white roping on ALL the brick joints, those old guys were freaks. I always wondered how they did it.
+binnsh yes they were, thanks mike
+Mike Haduck that would be an interesting video. I would use a cement bag...but I'm a baker not a cement person.....and the small phone letters make it hard to see...sorry for any mistyped.
Wow great work
Thanks Richard, Mike
Mike, I don't know enough to mix my own. Is there any general mix - like Quickrete Mortar Mix or something that you would recommend. I need to patch up a stone wall at my house with the mortar coming our.
Hi Cin, the premix s mortar is ok for a lot of projects, I generally show what I use in each of my videos for that particular job, every one has a different opinion, thanks Mike
Not lime mortar on natural stone?
Hi Ian,,, lime dosent hold up here with these wall circumstances, I did a series called " What cement should is use? Thanks mike
@@MikeHaduck Thanks Mike.I'll check it out.
Are air pockets an issue? Any left over debris, stones, snail shell, plants?
Hi, I never had any problems, thanks mike
What about the back side of the wall? Do you dig that out and see if it is solid or if it is dust?
Hi Laguna. Everything depends ,,freezing weather dosen't get to back side like front, if it hasn't moved it's usually ok, thanks mike
so many times you have said that if it is not wet, it won't stick. Which makes sense. Then other times, you bind stones together with dry pack.
Hi Mark, I did a video called, " Should I wet it first??" Mike Haduck, that should answer your quesrions , thanks Mike
@@MikeHaduck Thanks I watched the video. You are saying that it will stick better if wet, but it will still stick good enough if dry. But many times you have said it won't stick period if it is dry. Now, the mortar in that video was still pretty wet to my eye so I can see it sticking for stacking brick. But I watched one video of yours where you were stacking some kind of stones and you were using a very dry mix. Crumbly dry. Wouldn't those stones yet be sitting there kind of loose?
Hi Mike,
I am a Bricky in Australia.
Been looking at repointing videos.
I just learnt some new terms "Roping and grapvine "
I suppose an old dog can learn new tricks after all.
Your videos are great and would like to take some screen shots of the stone work for my website here in Australia.
Do you mind? It is my site about bricklaying with a few articles on it. repointing ,bbq's, letterboxes etc
Anycase cheers and thanks for your videos.
HI Alan , good to hear from a pro in Australia, lots of sites use my links to youtube and pictures, nothing wrong with that if it is honest,,, cheers, mike
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Cheers Mike
Nice job mike
Thanks Christian, I appreciate it, mike
Ok, I have Roxbury pudding stone exterior wall and a top slab is bowed outward. How does one push it back to repoint?
Hi Stephanie, I would check with the locals, thanks Mike
before the stone wall,and the roofing of the house is all slabs,n I have to repoint the whole ceiling b4 facing the stone wall, because is an ancient house ,I guess is the same technique,or can u brief me a little tech.thx alot
+Bob Dan So I can't imagine what you really mean, but I did a few videos on how I repair a foundation wall so maybe check out them, thanks mike
"They used a level because they were freaks!" LOL
Thanks, mike
Very funny! I actually LoL ed, out loud!! 😜
Second time I watched this, two years later, and I LoL ed again!
You're a ... ROCK...star Mike! 😂😂😂
Why does the wetter cement screw the stone up? I have some voids in my foundation I was going to pack and I thought using a wetter mud to totally fill the void, like with a mortar bag, would be best…?
Hi Kurt,, as you will see in the rest of the foundation videos I will be using different techniques and explaining my process, I hope it helps. MIKE
@@MikeHaduck Alright Mike. Thanks.
I know you have kinda covered this before but what is the difference between using straight Portland and sand verses type s and sand, I lay stone and use Portland ( just as you do, the way I was taught) most block Mason's around here use type s when they lay stone, or try to lay stone..they always ask me why I use Portland...
+John Hoyle Hi John, type s will not hold up here where I live, I been doing it so long and fixed everybody elses work who don't use portland . so I don't know what else to say, I know in other areas it is different, block work I use type s,,,, before type s - my day would use 20 shovels of sand 1bag of mortar and three shovels of sand for block, but always straight Portland for patios and outside stone work,,,, I hope it helps thanks mike
great job mike
+Bob Dan So thanks, I appreciate it. mike
I have a question. a tree root popped the sidewalk that leads to the step of my porch. someone laid concrete on top of this to make a ramp up to the step...so it's a thick piece of cement. one guy on u tube took a grinder to it. what would u do...try to chip it all out or grind down and resurrection the side walk.
habe you done any decorative coveted work.
my sister has a concrete counterparts ahe sat hot pots on. it now has small pitted surface and she wants it smooth again. should I resurface it or sand it somehow. it looks like the guy who made it painted it black too even tho the concrete is nearly black. there is no chipping of the "paint"...just areas damaged feom hot pots.
sorry for mistypes..old eyes and a small phone make it hard to see. that's decorative concrete work up there.
also I would love to see how they did the "rope" between too. or how you would. I saw concrete bags the other day. I would use that...but then I am a baker not a stone mason.
sorry for mistypes..old eyes and a small phone make it hard to see. that's decorative concrete work up there.
also I would love to see how they did the "rope" between too. or how you would. I saw concrete bags the other day. I would use that...but then I am a baker not a stone mason.
oh...and THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO ON TYPES OF CEMENT. I ALWAYS WONDERED. I TRIED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE EUROPEAN "CEMENT" THEY USE IN bathrooms in europe and Asia. ....taquri ...I believe that spelling is wrong...anyway I got an interlibrary loan on it and there was no real information in it just pictures of the guys work.
I can.find a video on it and will post that foe you if your interested.
+Sislertx I can't say unless I actually seen it. but It sounds like you got to break it up and redo it. tree roots usually get bigger and bigger and wrecks sidewalks, that's for sure, thanks mike
Mike I'm looking at getting a nice brick hammer wooden handle like you're one, what make do you go for I found a nice one 'Bon tools' searched them up been going a long time and seem decent but wondering who you go with cheers
Bon Steel City brick hammer has cutting edges that are ground and heat treated to the preferred chamfer. Equipped with a shock absorbent hickory handle.
Since 1957, Bon has grown to be a global leader in the manufacturing of tools for the professional building trades. With a firm commitment to our core principals of innovation, value and service, Bon is dedicated to being the preferred tool choice for construction projects worldwide.
That's what they say on the site about the brands
+luke medcraft I can't say for sure, sometimes flea markets or when I am desperate the stone yards, I appreciate it. thanks mike
+luke medcraft there we go, somebody got the supply thanks mike
Do you think it wise be a good choice then
Will*
Portland cement on a toothbrush... an excellent, and affordable way to fill cavities!
My friend Nick once tried to joke with his dentist that his job as a mason who did a lot of repointing was a lot like dentistry. The dentist was not amused.
Would have been useful to talk about why you used Portland cement instead of limestone which is what is recommended by old timers to be used on stone
Hi James, I hear a lot of that, but in my area it does not hold up, Portland is a sure thing, now on brick work that is not exposed to rain, ice and snow it would be usually Ok, every job is different, and most experienced masons knows what works in their area,,,,,, thanks mike
Ok thanks, just been watching a lot of pointing videos recently, they seem to hate cement for pointing on stone
Hi James, everybody got their own way, I never had a problem, it think it is what or who you learned from. I appreciate it. mike
James Watson to be fair... this stone wall isn’t really old... so modern cement probably would have been used anyway?
Shouldn't we use limestone instead of cement?
Hi Carlos some walls are built without any cement, thanks mike
Couldn't you use a bag with wetter mortar, let it dry a bit then tool it the way you like?
Hi Loving, I would answer that every job is a bit different, and you do what works best for every situation, I hope it helps thanks mike
Great video!
+Melissa Morgan thanks, mike
do you have to add the sand to the mix?
hi future, some bags come with sand, called premix, but this Is not, straight portland I added the sand, thanks mike
But...... Nice job, Mike 😂😂
Thanks, Mike
Is there a store bought mix of morter you could recommend?
+Battle Cam I think in the southern states you could get away with S mortar, around here it is different, I would ask the locals, I hope it helps, thanks mike
I always wanted to know how they got the lines in the joint like that!
+sikkinixxmc I have to do a video on just that, thanks mike
That's called rope-a-doping.
Do you sell a t-shirt with the quote on the mug?
Hi V someday I will set to that, thanks, mike
I shared what I learned with my wife and now she has built stone walk ways to her garden. LOL. (didn't want my help)
Thanks Ron, that’s good for you, lol. Mike
"They" were not "freaks", They cared about their work.....
Thanks, Mike
Hey Mike I'm curious how your back feels after all your time lugging around stones/cement and bending over. Have you needed any surgery or anything?
+JaWe I been pretty lucky, but I actually stay away from heavy jobs anymore, no surgerys yet, thanks mike
...when Mike came out of the womb his father made sure he painted his spine with portland cement.
Oh yeah, and before he did that...he made sure he wetted it.
You said they used a level because they were freaks. 😆
Thanks Jim, Mike
any paint?
Hi, only what I used on the video, thanks Mike
How to remove messy repointing job from concrete bricks ?
Hi, it’s a difficult question to answer, I usually try a steel brush and water first but it all depends on what it is, thanks mike
...I use dynamite.
Always wondered about how they did that
Thanks Ben I appreciate it Mike
They used a level coz they were freaks!! Lool
They sure don't make things like they did under the WPA.
Lots of WPA stuff in my area that is still around.
Thanks Pallidus,, Mike
Food for thought: if the mortar is stronger than the stone, the stone becomes the mortar and the mortar becomes the stone.
Hi Erick, that is a way to look at it, but mortar is made from stone, and some stone is softer than others, limestone v. Granite, so there is a lot of variables, thanks Mike
I’m confused I thought you should t use cement on stone walls.
Hi mrsgbee, I do what works in my area, I don’t want callbacks. Others say different. Thanks, mike
Never use a mix that's stronger than the material being used in your wall.
The old skool way wouldn't use cement in a stone wall. Lime Morter is what's needed for stone walls. That wall won't last now. The cememt will destroy the stone over time. Can't beleive comments calling this guy a masonry master.
Hi Old romrider, our family been in this business over 70 years, and we use what works, thanks mike
I have an old stone wall... 1902... it’s built with old coal “dust” from coal
Mines in Wales... it’s crumbling.
My area was old coal mining and they use a lot of mine rock could be because it was flaky and soft, I’m sure you could fix it, thanks Mike
Don't use cement on a lime mortar wall or building use nhl 3.5 hydrolic lime sharp sand and some dye in the mortar to match
@@cerrigstone
...make sure you add a pinch of salt to that and a smidgen of tabasco (green, not orange).
@@robertkelly9772 why not orange?
@@cerrigstone
Orange has too much toxicity.
It will spoil the recipe and render the mud inferior.
This error will first manifest itself in hairline cracks in the concrete which will then lead to spalling.
During each and every subsequent rain, the high vinegar content in the orange tabasco will leach (via the soil) and eventually crystallize, causing an adverse strain on the foundation.
The house will then begin to crumble and in due time, come tumbling down on all and every one of its poor and unfortunate occupants.
Trust me!
Use green tabasco.
so I have a hundred + year home. are front is stone. large stone with large gaps between filled with masonry. over the years of improper drainage the collum is pulling. there's cracks like this all over. can I do this.
ps the drainage problems fixed
Hi Jason, I can not tell you what to do I just show what I have done on jobs that worked for me, every situation is different, I hope it helps, thanks mike
Dude the other mason is stealing your mescla lol
thanks james, mike
Why not just use lime instead of fucking up the wall with cement?
Hi Keith, where I live lime does not hold up, I do not know what else to say, thanks mike
Where did you get a girlfriend with teeth?
Mike fills her cavities with white portland and does her crowns using rapid set.
👌👏👍
Tanks, Mike
Shouldn't that be lime based mortar instead of cement. There are a million videos on how cement pointing destroys stone because the cement doesn't breath.
Hi B. O., our family been doing it over 70 years, and in some cases with soft brick or a soft stone that may be the case, but If I listened to all the experts about what cement I should use I be out of business in a few years, I hope it helps , thanks mike
at least she'll have some nice white teeth...was that your gf that was helping you?
+luis perez , LOL, , No some neighbors kid wanted to see how it was done. thanks mike
Great video until you mentioned pointing it with cement!...never use cement on a stone wall! It ruins the stone which will begin to flake because it can’t breathe. Should’ve used a 3.5 lime and rough sand mortar!!
Hi ditto, thanks for the comment but I been doing this over fifty years and with our weather I be right back doing again with lime, lime dont hold up here, with respect, thanks mike
Portland mortar is the worst idea for limestone.
hi Gary, I would say it is true is many instances, and I understand what your saying, check out my video conwy castle, but not in all cases, thanks mike
You are doing pretty good. Still getting girlfriends that have teeth to brush.
Hi Jon, I never checked, lol, Mike
@@MikeHaduck Mike you are a wise man
جميل جدا
Thanks , Mike
Cement should be nowhere near stone and neither should you ! You must use lime mortar for stone.
Hi David, not so, I did a video called " should I use lime, mortar, or portland, " Mike haduck, I suggest you watch it, Mike
Eye protection.
Thanks Paul , I appreciate it, Mike
alright
The very first stone you put in, you didn't leave space on the right hand side for mortar, so water will seep in at this point and when the frost comes, the water freezes and blows the mortar and you're back to square one. After all, I thought this video was about pointing the wall. 👎
Hi Badboy, I been doing this over 50 years and haven't had any problems, but if you got a video on another way, I would love to see it, I try and keep a open mind, thanks Mike
You didn't moisten the wall at all, Mr. Haduck
hi Michael, not for that kind of a job, it would only make a mess, other jobs are different, thanks, mike
Wrong mortar. Using a portland based mortar will destroy that stone. Do some research and you'll find that using a lime based mortar is what you need to use. Other wise the portland mortar will hold moisture and rot the stone.
Hi greg, I appreciate the input, but lime mortar does not hold up here, our family been in business over 75 years, this is the real world you got to use what works for your weather but if you want to learn about the lime mortar, check out my video , Conwy castle (mike Haduck) , thanks mike
Typical response from a contractor who does not want his knowledge questioned..."I've been doing it a long time so I can't be wrong". Perhaps you are using the wrong lime based mortar sir. If you do your research you will find there are many ratios to work with. If your portland mortar doesn't destroy the stone that's great but I think you should be open to other ideas without getting huffy about it.. telling me I don't live in the "real world". I do historic renovations for a living my friend. But I can tell there is no sense responding to other replies from you because you don't like your knowledge/authority being questioned and you will just get more and more aggressive.
Hi greg, I have learned a lot with this channel from people who wrote in and put a lot of info I didn't know on , So I try to have a opened mind, but that wall was lime mortar and everything in our area with lime mortar falls apart,,that is why I had to fix it, that stone is almost as hard as granite, my dad remembers them building the wall during the depression, and we know what works in our area, no worries on my side, God bless, mike
Mike, how many times do we have to to tell you, never build or repoint a stone wall from the 1800's through to the 1930's, with a Portland cement mortar. You always have to use an NHL lime mortar, that is flexible and will be compatible with the old mortar used on the original build. NHL's are more flexible and will move with the stone, Portland mortars are too hard and brittle and will trap moisture in the wall. I don't care how long you've been doing this incorrectly over the years, educate yourself on the correct way to do things, before posting this tripe on TH-cam.
Hi Keith, with all due respect, lime don't hold up in my weather, they just refinished a church in scranton, their mix was 1 Part Portland 1 part lime and three parts sand, the indiana limestone manual suggest the same, the guy at washing cathedral said the same in his area i use less sand,I can make a living just going over the lime guys work in my area. No offense I just telling like it is, Mike
@@MikeHaduck Your weather is no different nor worse than what we see in Connecticut, Massachusetts, or Rhode Island, in fact we also have to contend with more salt in the air than you. Never the less, buildings up and down the East coast, since the early 16th century have been built using lime mortars, they had no choice as Portland wasn't used extensively in the USA until the late 1920's early 1930's. The natural Hydraulic lime mortar we use, closely emulates the properties of those earlier lime mortars. If you put a Portland cement mortar on top of lime, you get excess moisture trapped in the wall as Portland doesn't breathe like lime mortar. The Lime you keep referring to is a hydrated lime, used to add flexibility to a Portland mortar. It is not used as a binder. The product I refer to is an Hydraulic lime mortar which is a binder and also sets underwater. NHL's have a poultice effect on buildings, they suck the moisture from the brick and stone and bring it to the face of the building where the wind and sun help it to evaporate. Portland does not do this, it lets moisture into a building and not out. Then the lime reconstitutes causing a chemical reaction with the Portland cement and pushes the Portland mortar out of the walls. That is why you can go to any building re-pointed with Portland, and pull the Portland material from the joints with your fingers. The Secretary of the Interior's standards and guidelines tell you to replace historic building mortars like for like. That means you have to use an NHL mortar for any building built before 1930. Modern Portland mortars are far too brittle and hard for old brick. That is why you get mortar frames around brick while the faces spall. As the building moves, NHL's flex with it, Portland doesn't so the brick fractures.
Hi Keith, I did a video called " Lime, Mortar or portland" What should I use? If you don't get it after that ,I can't help you, with respect ,Mike
@@keithboyd1157 Portland-based mortar: $7 for 60 lb. bag. NHL lime mortar: $40+ for 60 lb. bag. Do the math. If some stones do eventually fail after ... what, 10 years maybe... cheaper to just replace the stones. Only makes sense to preserve the stone in historical castles and such.