I've been testing a main deck package including 3x orange light with keldo and mudora. The orange lights are pretty handy, and really the only counter to shifter for both first AND second. Shufflers seem solid into a lot of decks in the format, and getting back the trap or sauravis, so you can recycle your ritual spell again is nice. And they're an additional interruption you can send off diviner if you open the trias instead of sending arc light. I'm not saying it's the optimal build, but fairly neat
I actually never thought about sending the shufflers with diviner. That’s really freakin cool. I’m so used to sending light fairies with her effect, that I kinda thought those were the only targets she could send hahaha
I keep cycling back and forth between Nardir Package (4 cards main deck) vs 3 prosperity 3 prep (6 cards main deck) both builds have their + - Nadir helps break boards and pushing going second but prosperity and pre prep feel better against droll. Either way I think both builds are on the same power level.
@@darthkrayt5097 yeah that has been a thing forsure. A lot of decks want their extra deck in grave right now. I’m just saying the build has its pros . I have tested both extensively and feel like I win around the same % with both. However with the nadir build when I lose , I really lose lol. What is everyone’s opinions on Pendelumgraph Dragon? Card can sometimes be bricky and bad going second; but it feels mandatory to me, I like the constant recycling of your ritual spells and the spell negate (I don’t play an odd eyes target in the extra deck) Only asking because I tried out Paks most recent build and I could really feel the deck being weaker without it. He basically replaced odd eyes with one for one.
@birdmaneftw4806 the only thing I don't like about pendulumgraph is he feels really match up dependant and feels like he only trades with pots a lot of the time since he's super sus against continuous/field spells (doesn't destroy).
@@amethonys2798 I feel that. I’m starting to think it might end up in the side deck (if there’s room) maybe the ceiling isn’t as high with deck losing it but the floor of this deck is still very strong.
why does tom say "tree ass he rawr ja" instead of 'trias hierarchia" hierarchy is like a system of power or authority trias is a time period its the god or a specific time period hierarchia pronounced (higher-arc-eeya) it aint hard
Actually, I tested this deck a lot the last few weeks because I really love the archetype and I want to play it in tournaments. I feel like nadir is not the way to go since everyone will play droll in the main to stop snake eye fire king. I feel very confident about my list.
I wasn’t on Nadir originally, but once I realized hey… if I get drolled I can still play. I contemplate using crossout and was sacking hard with it. I chose to use talent instead. Eat droll make combo, talent their hand gg Also realized most people will probably stop using droll when they see the deck will still full combo… via ash or populus or hard open original.
How about instead of needing to draw a ritual peace in the nadir combo, you could just start of with sending herald, and then with maximus send garura and another one for the double search
One thing I’m curious about: have you considered Odd-Eyes Wing Dragon in the Extra Deck. Personally liking it for the OTK potential. Or Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon since Pendulumgraph can cheese it out when the spell negate resolves…and then Meteorburst can special summon Pendulumgraph…and the spell negate is a soft OPT.
@@fischhanslp644 why not? If it was properly summoned and then placed in the pendulum zone, shouldn’t it be possible to summon via meteor effect? Edit: I JUST reread it. Says on the text. My bad lol
I actually liked the intro. I also realized that it's possible the name of the prayer she's giving is itself "Novox's Prayer," and thus "Novox" is the true name of Skull Guardian. Also, you had the Ritual Spell in the combo lines, but not the deck profile? I counted your main deck and got 39 in the profile, so I'm assuming it's either a 40 or 41 with 1 or 2 copies of the Ritual Spell, just not shown?
Give it a few days/weeks. Once more packs are opened, the prices should come down. Saw that the prices for some of the cards have already come down since preorders first went up
Unlucky I’ve play tested probably 100 matches over the past month have maybe bricked 5 times. One for one, and Nibiru should be main decked . Extra way for Lo access and nibiru fulfills all the conditions for the ritual card
Idk, even with decks that i know for a fact are consistent irl in the tcg even brick more online for me. Beginning to think im on the bad side of th3 algorithm @harleypettersen9225
I love how he states, “I’m aware of the pre prep package. I just prefer nadir instead” “NADIR ISNT THE WAY BRO. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THE DECK. NOT MAIN DECKING PRE PREP IS CRAZY”.
@@testchannel-mn8ef fun fact btw Skull Guardians OCG name is Lo Guardian. Obviously Konami never had the foresight 20 years ago that this would be a new thing but they had to keep continuity. So I think it's just a bit similar to slime toad vs frog the jam
Every combo you showed dies extremely hard to droll. Nadir servant package doesn’t help the decks two weaknesses. First droll. Two going second. Nothing you showed fortifies the weaknesses. Which is why most list have cut the nadir package weeks ago.
i'm sort of over herald of the arc light - every ritual deck forever only needs a herald normal summon and dump arc light and i think that's really limiting in future design
U raigeki, I activate prayer from GY putting the skull guardian and the Lo back on field. Next board wipe gets negated, then trap summon dragon sage sauravis, which turns into a summon negate…
Not playing pre-prep is insane lol, literally the best card in the deck
Sarauvis doesn’t tribute he returns to hand to special from deck. 😊
Yea what a fundamental video lmao
I've been testing a main deck package including 3x orange light with keldo and mudora. The orange lights are pretty handy, and really the only counter to shifter for both first AND second. Shufflers seem solid into a lot of decks in the format, and getting back the trap or sauravis, so you can recycle your ritual spell again is nice. And they're an additional interruption you can send off diviner if you open the trias instead of sending arc light. I'm not saying it's the optimal build, but fairly neat
I actually never thought about sending the shufflers with diviner. That’s really freakin cool.
I’m so used to sending light fairies with her effect, that I kinda thought those were the only targets she could send hahaha
I keep cycling back and forth between Nardir Package (4 cards main deck) vs 3 prosperity 3 prep (6 cards main deck) both builds have their + -
Nadir helps break boards and pushing going second but prosperity and pre prep feel better against droll.
Either way I think both builds are on the same power level.
Nah the non nadir version is better. Maximus can be a brick sometimes too and droll is an instant lose to nadir version
Nadir will also likely give your opponent a draw when they send there Garura off maximus
@@darthkrayt5097 yeah that has been a thing forsure. A lot of decks want their extra deck in grave right now. I’m just saying the build has its pros .
I have tested both extensively and feel like I win around the same % with both.
However with the nadir build when I lose , I really lose lol.
What is everyone’s opinions on Pendelumgraph Dragon? Card can sometimes be bricky and bad going second; but it feels mandatory to me, I like the constant recycling of your ritual spells and the spell negate (I don’t play an odd eyes target in the extra deck)
Only asking because I tried out Paks most recent build and I could really feel the deck being weaker without it. He basically replaced odd eyes with one for one.
@birdmaneftw4806 the only thing I don't like about pendulumgraph is he feels really match up dependant and feels like he only trades with pots a lot of the time since he's super sus against continuous/field spells (doesn't destroy).
@@amethonys2798 I feel that. I’m starting to think it might end up in the side deck (if there’s room) maybe the ceiling isn’t as high with deck losing it but the floor of this deck is still very strong.
I like Shuraig for the Dogmatika engine, searching D.D. Crow is solid this format
Might do that over testing packbit
why does tom say "tree ass he rawr ja" instead of 'trias hierarchia"
hierarchy is like a system of power or authority
trias is a time period
its the god or a specific time period
hierarchia pronounced (higher-arc-eeya)
it aint hard
Actually, I tested this deck a lot the last few weeks because I really love the archetype and I want to play it in tournaments.
I feel like nadir is not the way to go since everyone will play droll in the main to stop snake eye fire king.
I feel very confident about my list.
I wasn’t on Nadir originally, but once I realized hey… if I get drolled I can still play. I contemplate using crossout and was sacking hard with it. I chose to use talent instead. Eat droll make combo, talent their hand gg
Also realized most people will probably stop using droll when they see the deck will still full combo… via ash or populus or hard open original.
You're right, I'm having way more success with Pre-prep and a crossout package, nadir rn feels mid. Especially in the mirror
@@gekkouga-sl7lbnadir is still better,and you have extra deck board pops if they don't have droll. Rather bait droll and still ritual summon
@@Destrudo5359 pretty bad in the mirror & against Branded, which this deck struggles against already
Pulled QCR saffira and idk how much she’s worth
How about instead of needing to draw a ritual peace in the nadir combo, you could just start of with sending herald, and then with maximus send garura and another one for the double search
You can’t send herald to add Maximus… the atk is too low
@@MSTTV bruh I swear this sentence just appeared on the card ty for the enlightment👍
I’m not sure if anybody has asked this question: why is it that you can’t summon odd eyes pengraph dragon with sauravis?
"Must be either Ritual Summoned, or Pendulum Summoned from your hand."
I like the Shuraig over ferrijit because you can play crow in main as a search target, and then you can double up on crossout designator value.
Sauravis bounces back to hand for effect, doesn't go to graveyard :)
Pick up part of what I needed for the deck. I just need two more lo and one more saffira
One thing I’m curious about: have you considered Odd-Eyes Wing Dragon in the Extra Deck. Personally liking it for the OTK potential. Or Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon since Pendulumgraph can cheese it out when the spell negate resolves…and then Meteorburst can special summon Pendulumgraph…and the spell negate is a soft OPT.
Unfortunately the Pendelumgraph must be Ritual Summoned. Cant special it with Meteorburst.
@@fischhanslp644 why not? If it was properly summoned and then placed in the pendulum zone, shouldn’t it be possible to summon via meteor effect?
Edit: I JUST reread it. Says on the text. My bad lol
I actually liked the intro. I also realized that it's possible the name of the prayer she's giving is itself "Novox's Prayer," and thus "Novox" is the true name of Skull Guardian. Also, you had the Ritual Spell in the combo lines, but not the deck profile? I counted your main deck and got 39 in the profile, so I'm assuming it's either a 40 or 41 with 1 or 2 copies of the Ritual Spell, just not shown?
Why did konami have to change novox's name...still bugs the hell out of me.
You mean, corrected novox’s name… her name was apparently always Lo and was mistranslated previously.
Novox sounds to me like “No Voice” in Latin 🤔
i dont see the ritual spell in the deck profile am i crazy?
Did you include Prayer of The Voiceless Voice? I watched the video multiple times and didn't see it, but saw it in the combo. A one of then right?
You will need to play 2
i think he forgot to include it in the deck profile but it does appear at 2:20 min
how many prayers are played
And spell voice? And preparation?
do you think its worth the high price tag? I like this deck but liking is not enought it has to be a worth contender :p
Give it a few days/weeks. Once more packs are opened, the prices should come down. Saw that the prices for some of the cards have already come down since preorders first went up
This will be the 3rd best deck of the format behind FK and pure snake. Book it
Technically, even with presale prices, only Lo was expensive tbh.
And it’s slowly going from $80 to around 40-50 currently.
@@markanthonybondoc2559 I believe Saffira was expensive for awhile as well. Now it’s below $20
nah sorry but playing the nadir package instead of pre-prep in a droll format just seems reckless lol
Unfortunately Garura is seeing lots of play in meta decks and Nadir package just gives your opponent a free draw.
Because of that, it would be wise to play talents
What cards are you missing or is that just placeholder for random draws?
Random draws
Its funny how hype this deck is but when i go to test it online it bricks like every game.
Unlucky I’ve play tested probably 100 matches over the past month have maybe bricked 5 times. One for one, and Nibiru should be main decked . Extra way for Lo access and nibiru fulfills all the conditions for the ritual card
how bruh
Idk, even with decks that i know for a fact are consistent irl in the tcg even brick more online for me. Beginning to think im on the bad side of th3 algorithm @harleypettersen9225
Sooo stop Lo you win? Gotcha
The nadir servant line gets slaughtered by droll, and the first combo plays into nib, neither of these are optimal lmao
I love how he states, “I’m aware of the pre prep package. I just prefer nadir instead”
“NADIR ISNT THE WAY BRO. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THE DECK. NOT MAIN DECKING PRE PREP IS CRAZY”.
LOOOOOWWWWWW
Tell konami to keep the ocg names
OCG name was always Lo. YGOrg just renamed it to Novox...
@@razer72260tell Konami to keep the Yorg names 😂
Novox was sure better that rhis trash name.... Lo.... pfff
Konami did keep the OCG name 😂
@@testchannel-mn8ef fun fact btw Skull Guardians OCG name is Lo Guardian. Obviously Konami never had the foresight 20 years ago that this would be a new thing but they had to keep continuity. So I think it's just a bit similar to slime toad vs frog the jam
Prosp build is better. Nadir engine plays a garnet and loses hard to Droll.
It also -1 you since your opponent is MOST LIKELY also drawing a card since a lot of decks are on SPoly and thus Garua as well.
Every combo you showed dies extremely hard to droll. Nadir servant package doesn’t help the decks two weaknesses. First droll. Two going second. Nothing you showed fortifies the weaknesses. Which is why most list have cut the nadir package weeks ago.
i'm sort of over herald of the arc light - every ritual deck forever only needs a herald normal summon and dump arc light and i think that's really limiting in future design
But we dump trias as the main card
You have an attitude that you're so tired or you just don't care about making videos and you do it for the money
Yall are high playing nadir over pre prep and pot.
1st
*Vader breathez heavy* so... bullshit 1 effect... itz getz neg8ed... then dark hole/raigeki... got it... *Vader breathez heavy*
And then they come back?
@MSTTV *Vader breathez heavy* d@z not how otkz work tom... I said... clear tha board... n I'm attackin fa game... *Vader breathez heavy*
U raigeki, I activate prayer from GY putting the skull guardian and the Lo back on field.
Next board wipe gets negated, then trap summon dragon sage sauravis, which turns into a summon negate…
@MSTTV *Vader breathez heavy* so u want me ta evenly chain droplet... got it.. *Vader breathez heavy*
the version you just showed had no prayer in it@@MSTTV
I love the nadir package 🫱🏾🫲🏿