My uncle was a radio operator on the Missouri, New Jersy's sister ship. The radio shack was directly under Admiral Nimitz's cabin and my uncle said that he heard him pacing every night.
One of the veteran interviews talked about one of perks of his bunk was that it was near enough to an external phone that he could grab it from his bed and make calls anytime with privacy.
I can't believe that phone was just tossed into a dumpster! =0 So thankful someone saved it and that it ended up in the museum so generations can enjoy it.
I would simply comment that the most important thing to save from a fire would be ... Ryan Szymanski. As well as any of the other museum personnel and visitors who might be onboard at the time. While I would hate to see the old lady go taking her treasure trove of various assorted historical objects with her, the people are far more important. However, if there was any way you could save her logs without running too great a risk then that might be something to try.
I had a similar thought, but then realized that anyone who can follow Ryan into the darkest recesses of the ship while carrying the camera, light, and other stuff would probably be the one doing the saving. :)
Very interesting that these objects would just discarded in the 80's especially with the significance of likely bring from the Admirals Cabin. Oh by the way, where we will like not get a chance to visit New Jersey (living on the west coast). I'm taking the family to Southern California at the end of the month. One of our stops is The Iowa. My daughters are seriously about as excited about that as going to Disneyland. All because of your channel.
@@flick22601 The Midway in in San Diego right? That will have to be a future plan. We only had one extra day in the Los Angeles area. Thanks however for the suggestion. We live in Central Oregon, do not have much stuff like this where we live.
I love exhibits where no individual "thing" is priceless. I imagine so much on the New Jersey could simply be fabricated or re-sourced if needed. But the entire ensemble is what makes up the priceless artifact.
There's an episode on Pawn Stars where a customer brought in one of these phones. The Old Man, a Navy vet bought it and tried to hook it up on his desk to use as a business phone. I don't recall him being successful, as the Admiral's phone was too antique to use on a modern system.
I've seen the show but not the episode I'm not surprised it didn't work. Need to get it in the hands of an expert. And I'm always wondering how much of that "expert" is actually an expert not some friend who said they were an "expert"?
If this operates much like a field/linesman’s telephone I imagine it would be very easy to get working again. You could have this in your office and several other field phones somewhere else in the ship.
It's hardwired into the original wiring which was ripped out in the 80s. If Ryan is correct, the cabin it came from no longer exists So unless they wanted to rewire a new system, the PHONE may work, but have no network on which to live. Fascinating piece of history, but just a static display now, methinks.
@@Ashfielder thats the hard part, you could easily wire up a few offices sure but running lines from deck to deck, trhrough armoured bulk heads etc be alot harder. nice novalty potentally for tourists if make some replicas
@@alexh3974 well there *are* phone lines inside the ship, right? There's a network *there*, you would just have to figure out a way to wire it in properly.
@@markdoldon8852 you can see the socket in that coil off the back, I think that's a standard 4-pin phone connector, from before we had the little ones we do now. But they share a lot of the same wiring, you just need an adapter.
If that phone was set up like the sp handset phone system on my first ship (USS Los Alamos AFDB-7), each of the phones on that "line" would have a dial with all the other spaces on the line on it. But not for the space the phone you were holding in it. Whatever space in that "line" that's not listed on that phone would be the space that particular unit came out of.
I think you are picturing a "Growler", with the little crank on the side to alert the other end that you want to talk to them. Kept you from having to keep the SP circuit manned at all times. Your daily trivia is that the noisemaker on a growler is the same element that is used in an SP handset. Fry 1 little key diode and you would lose your isolation, making every SP phone on the circuit a transmitter for the affected growler when you cranked it...lotsa fun if you are wearing a headset. Pictured is what appears to be a fancy intercom box. You would have known them as a "Bitch Box"...Square gray metal box with a speaker in the front and like 20 chrome station buttons across the top and a rather large cable entering it. (Each station has its own pair of wires in that cable. Each wire was individually soldered to its own terminal on a board affixed to the inside back of the enclosure. NOT a fun thing to replace...)
And the space that's missing on that actual phone is the Admiral's suite -- so I think Ryan, and yourself, are both correct!, it is very likely to be from the Admiral's suite.
Funny, my 25 foot sail boat had the same bottom paint as New Jersey. In fact it came from the same van. I worked at the Long Beach Naval shipyard marina. We got all the partial cans of paint the ship yard couldn’t use. So I used some on the bottom of my boat.
my dad worked for the Grand Trunk Western railroad in the car shops. there were many many friends of the family and our family too that had things painted GTW Blue lol...
Yes, I can think of a couple things from any ship that's important enough to be a museum that the museum should have. However, I don't know if you've missed any of them. I assume you haven't. Here's a list of some examples. 1. The helm wheel and engine controls. 2. The alarm klaxon with sounds to play. 3. Figurines of important commanders in uniform. 4. Shells, guns and other armaments. 5. List of everyone who died on that ship while serving. 6. Ship history as videos of engagements, deeds. 7. History of the ship's creation and invention. 8. Reenactments of battle stations by tourists aboard the museum ship, led by former sailors who served the ship. Thus a sense of the sudden chaos, organization, sounds, commands and fun for tourists. So, the tourists hustle to their combat stations, Mann the controls or stand by them, till signaled all's well and can return to the main tour. Enough reality so they return for more of such fun opportunities, talk with former sailors at their battle stations leading them through hatches and hallways to their respective stations, promote the ship, support the efforts to maintain the history of the US Navy and most importantly, start a public trend of more ships saved, more history remembered. What city or ship museum doesn't want to give tourists aboard ship not only an educational experience, but a taste of the conditions of serving while promoting and supporting their loved local museum? How many children would appreciate the sacrifices of the 'Greatest Generation' and want to be part of future service to America because they were inspired by such a meaningful event as battle stations aboard a great ship? Granted, number 8 is not an item, but could be done by grateful volunteers sharing the ship and their memories. And the possibility of New Jersey being the first to start this, to work out the kinks, seems to me the very basis of why New Jersey is special, loved and respected. It led where others followed.
We visited USS New Jersey. I took pictures of my kids seated in the chair that admirals had sat in while at sea looking out and pondering thoughts of battle and success. I found it awesome
Is the Battleships’s silver set on the New Jersey. I thought I heard on the the tour of the New Jersey that the State of New Jersey, Office of the Governor, had possession of the silver set, even though the museum had asked for the set to be returned to the ship. I don’t know if the set was returned to the ship/museum since I was on the tour.
When I was part of Navy shipbuilding in the 1980s, our new phone systems had a feature called "Hunt The Not-Busy". So, if you dialed, for instance, Forward DC, and the number you dialed was busy, the system would automatically dial the next number assigned to that space
Not a "telephone" in the normal usage of the term, but more along the lines of an isolated intercom group. As far as dialing off of the ship while in port goes, I'm assuming that the 80's refit came with an AT&T Dimension 2000 PBX system. If this is the case, then ANY dial telephone is CAPABLE of making an outside call. The key is if the extension is programmed to ALLOW an outside call. In case of issues with making an outside call, the phones in the IC Shop would always be allowed to make an outside call...purely for troubleshooting purposes, of course.
@@kevincrosby1760 oh yes the equivalent of a band being nice to their sound person, what you want me to turn your suck knob up I don't know why? That is quite a telephone! reminds me of something similar to the small office PBX 1n2 ( I can't remember what it's called ) systems combined customized and crammed in a fancy box. Looks like it might have direct line capabilities and was wired up at some point. Telephone technology is amazing how forwards and backwards compliant things are. Edit: just went through all the comments, surprising there's not very many telephone folk on here. And Oh 1a2 key system.
Would really love to see a more comprehensive overview of some of the internal communication systems on the ship, especially during it's WWII configuration. I know you've had some videos on the topic but I live for the really niche stuff.
@@leftyo9589 If you couldn't solder before installing a new bitch box, you surely could by the time that you were done. I think that the ship originally came with dial phones, but of the old electro-mechanical switch type.
@@htroberts Barrel switches. Lots of barrel switches. SP phone circuits generally had a casualty switchbox somewhere, so that you could selectively isolate individual legs of the circuit to remove a damaged leg from the circuit.
If the WWII version of New Jersey ONLY had a fully manual exchange (plug & cord, with call routing by humans), then the Strowger dial at the top is a strange thing to include. It seems to be two things in one box: a push to call/talk intercom system connecting the flag spaces, and a dial phone (the handset itself is dual purpose). When you say it overheated, I am guessing you mean the "handsfree" part. That would have been rather iffy technology in WWII, as the only techniques to make it work would've been analogue, and would probably neeed regular maintenance because of electronics drift (in my world it was known as "hybrid balance"). The "push to talk' function is the lever at the bottom (not sure if the only mic is on the handset, but it probably has a crude one built into the box too for conferencing}. Obviously there was a Strowger exchange (dial-it-yourself) on the ship, but that also means a phone unit such as this could also be used to dial calls in port (the first digit would connect to the on-shore system) - no reason not to, unless there was some security issue involved, for example some sort of call encryption system for the shore phone. Those were rare in WWII and big - the hot-line between Churchill and the White House, for example was a room full of electronics, but very secure all the same - but simpler things such as voice modulation would be smaller packages and make interception quite difficult. Even though Strowger systems were in use, manual exchanges were still common, not least because the Important Person could request a connection from the exchange operator, then get on with something else while the connection was being set up. The Important Person wasn't waiting around for someone to answer the ring at the other end. I can imagine this would be relevant in the heat of battle too, although more for the ship's staff than the Admiral's. Also, on land the exchange operators talked to each other, so in London during the Blitz, for example, they knew which parts of the city had working lines and which other areas were out of commission, and could re-route calls around damaged parts of the network.
If there is a fire, rush back and save the ship. The phone is historically significant and all that but the ship is awesome and you should be able to damage control a fire on a battleship. Do test and make sure all of the fire fighting equipment is functional though, you wouldn't want a repeat of the USS Bonhomme Richard.
A repeat of that disaster would require a bunch of shipyard workers who leave flammable substances (trash) wherever they feel like it, and feel that a firewatch is the buddy you station down the passageway to ensure that some squid doesn't catch you doing Hot Work without a permit. Dumbest I ever personally caught was the welder using a 1/2 full 5-gal can of Laquer Thinner as a stool while welding.
I think that, in the event of a big emergency, you should go in and grab the red toilet seat. With appropriate Personal Protective Equipment, of course.
Ryan Interesting Video . How do you keep coming up with new Ideas to keep ahead of the Pace that you are creating new ones . I liked those photos showing the Phones in the surrounding area . Any photos of the Ships Library ? Hint hint . Stay safe .
I was an IC2, I hated pulling into port in some crappy place because I knew I would on that dang peer, while watching folks go on liberty, while I'm getting screamed at by the XO "Where's the Captains LAND LINE!!! RWAAAAR!".. It sucked!
All I can think of is the chart room or any maps/ historical documents found, any ship schematics would be nice but the copy you have has been circulated well in books.
By the way I've used a party-line a few times in my life even know that was still back in the the naughty use before and even later. But then again those places very small towns isolated areas. Where are party line still existed. One which I remember the the phone worked in that area. And there was instructions by almost every phone because most people were not familiar with this. You would dial the number for the number you wanted to call hang up and when everything was ready for your call to go through the phone would ring and you'd pick up and you'd be on your call. Back then that was a modern- day party line. At first I didn't realize they were still around and that's what it was I just saw this Oddball phone system for small town. But then again who knows helps you phones or even in the area I think there was literally like one stop light at least with actual stoplight everything else of Lee was just if it even has a stoplight was the blinking Beacon with the 4-way red lenses in the middle of the intersections. And also there were areas where there were no stoplights oh there there would only be one even. I think there were even one or two mushroom beacons I think this might be in the next town over. Those pretty much have a sister to adjust nowadays but I still remember them you times here and there. Wanting on remember even handstop like that look more like railroad signals are short pedestals in the pavement. Haven't seen it anywhere else but it was rather interesting. It's possible that they were not delay your traffic lights from for some special purpose. It's always cool to see some historical old something that is just obsolete not in use and like wondering what is that thing I've never seen that before. But then again I'm really into electrical and other Antiquities where are you see something that you just don't see anymore or like wait a sec what is this or what was this that one time. Always on the lookout for old insulators remnants of other old systems are Obsolete and otherwise. One star to replace that was still on DC power back in the day and did a bit of work. The thing was there was fluorescent lights but it was just too quiet for the age of the fluorescent lighting. And he said well that's one reason why I wanted you to see this place. They said surprise we're on DC power here! Also I've seen two phase power at least twice. It may ever even been in the same facility for the next town over
Ryan, I'm reasonably certain the the ship had an Automatic Electric 100 line telephone switch. This assumption is based on the overhead brackets that are still in the space that houses the latest switch which are identical to the bracketry for AE systems.
My theory was a Stromberg Carlson XY switch. Physicaly they take up less room than a typical rotary motion SXS. Less variety of spareparts needed too. And dont depend on gravity. All functions use springs to return to idle. Said that, I dunno much about AE Switches. Maybe they made a comparable system ??
@@benjurqunov I Do know about AE exchanges as teh Navy sent me to school for them, and the bracketery are identical to the bracketry in my 1st ship. The SC system use entirely different cabinets and bracketry.
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In the 80san90s there was a system called water com, that was on inland boats that you could call home on just cost a lot to use,over a doller a minute back then
Probably not logs are usually very dry it is only the most important things that are written down like turnovers, OOS, RTS, condition changes and casualties that occurred plus if it is engineering logs it is mainly just hourly gage readings
If I were rushing back into a ship on fire, I would try to save all of the original Ship's Plans and Upgrades Paperwork, although I would probably need an empty cargo van to carry it all.
If it's for purely internal use why does it have a rotary dialer installed? Might a switchboard might be able to put it through to a landline if it had access to one?
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My uncle was a radio operator on the Missouri, New Jersy's sister ship. The radio shack was directly under Admiral Nimitz's cabin and my uncle said that he heard him pacing every night.
One of the veteran interviews talked about one of perks of his bunk was that it was near enough to an external phone that he could grab it from his bed and make calls anytime with privacy.
Good on that dumpster-diving donor for giving the artifact. What a bro.
Absolutely!
I am involved with a Telecommunication museum ( not in the US ) most of the old pre modern plastic phones we have are all from people dumpster diving.
I can't believe that phone was just tossed into a dumpster! =0 So thankful someone saved it and that it ended up in the museum so generations can enjoy it.
"The Admiral's Phone" would make a great Hitchcock movie.
I would simply comment that the most important thing to save from a fire would be ... Ryan Szymanski. As well as any of the other museum personnel and visitors who might be onboard at the time. While I would hate to see the old lady go taking her treasure trove of various assorted historical objects with her, the people are far more important. However, if there was any way you could save her logs without running too great a risk then that might be something to try.
Now I'm just picturing someone running in and bringing out Ryan above their head
I think the most important artifact would be the ships bell.
Except the bell is really heavy and I think it would be hard to get to, and hard to dismount.
What artifact should you rush back into the burning ship to save? My choice is Libby.
I had a similar thought, but then realized that anyone who can follow Ryan into the darkest recesses of the ship while carrying the camera, light, and other stuff would probably be the one doing the saving. :)
@@loosh5101 Bingo!
Very interesting that these objects would just discarded in the 80's especially with the significance of likely bring from the Admirals Cabin.
Oh by the way, where we will like not get a chance to visit New Jersey (living on the west coast). I'm taking the family to Southern California at the end of the month. One of our stops is The Iowa. My daughters are seriously about as excited about that as going to Disneyland. All because of your channel.
And stop by the USS Midway while you're at it.
@@flick22601 The Midway in in San Diego right? That will have to be a future plan. We only had one extra day in the Los Angeles area. Thanks however for the suggestion.
We live in Central Oregon, do not have much stuff like this where we live.
@@martygriffith6518 - I live in West Virginia and we don't have anything like this. We do however, have some beautiful scenery.
I love exhibits where no individual "thing" is priceless. I imagine so much on the New Jersey could simply be fabricated or re-sourced if needed. But the entire ensemble is what makes up the priceless artifact.
That phone is gorgeous! They did a great job painting it like wood. What to save in the event of a fire? The staff, they’re priceless :)
Best artifact besides the entire ship. Save the curator Ryan. It wouldn't be the same at all without him.
There's an episode on Pawn Stars where a customer brought in one of these phones. The Old Man, a Navy vet bought it and tried to hook it up on his desk to use as a business phone. I don't recall him being successful, as the Admiral's phone was too antique to use on a modern system.
Yes I remember that episode also this has been mentioned at least one of our time in comments so far as I saw
I've seen the show but not the episode I'm not surprised it didn't work. Need to get it in the hands of an expert.
And I'm always wondering how much of that "expert" is actually an expert not some friend who said they were an "expert"?
As someone that works in telecommunications, this if fascinating to me.
If this operates much like a field/linesman’s telephone I imagine it would be very easy to get working again. You could have this in your office and several other field phones somewhere else in the ship.
It's hardwired into the original wiring which was ripped out in the 80s. If Ryan is correct, the cabin it came from no longer exists So unless they wanted to rewire a new system, the PHONE may work, but have no network on which to live. Fascinating piece of history, but just a static display now, methinks.
@@markdoldon8852 I’m pretty sure you only need power and then a direct line to another phone, creating a closed phone network.
@@Ashfielder thats the hard part, you could easily wire up a few offices sure but running lines from deck to deck, trhrough armoured bulk heads etc be alot harder.
nice novalty potentally for tourists if make some replicas
@@alexh3974 well there *are* phone lines inside the ship, right? There's a network *there*, you would just have to figure out a way to wire it in properly.
@@markdoldon8852 you can see the socket in that coil off the back, I think that's a standard 4-pin phone connector, from before we had the little ones we do now. But they share a lot of the same wiring, you just need an adapter.
If that phone was set up like the sp handset phone system on my first ship (USS Los Alamos AFDB-7), each of the phones on that "line" would have a dial with all the other spaces on the line on it. But not for the space the phone you were holding in it. Whatever space in that "line" that's not listed on that phone would be the space that particular unit came out of.
I think you are picturing a "Growler", with the little crank on the side to alert the other end that you want to talk to them. Kept you from having to keep the SP circuit manned at all times. Your daily trivia is that the noisemaker on a growler is the same element that is used in an SP handset. Fry 1 little key diode and you would lose your isolation, making every SP phone on the circuit a transmitter for the affected growler when you cranked it...lotsa fun if you are wearing a headset.
Pictured is what appears to be a fancy intercom box. You would have known them as a "Bitch Box"...Square gray metal box with a speaker in the front and like 20 chrome station buttons across the top and a rather large cable entering it. (Each station has its own pair of wires in that cable. Each wire was individually soldered to its own terminal on a board affixed to the inside back of the enclosure. NOT a fun thing to replace...)
And the space that's missing on that actual phone is the Admiral's suite -- so I think Ryan, and yourself, are both correct!, it is very likely to be from the Admiral's suite.
There was one of these on Pawn stars sold for $500 to them ... Shame it could not have went to another museum.
Beautiful piece of gear.
I'd love to know more about the Captain's Log and Rear Admiral. Keep it family channel oriented, off course!
Thanks for another great video Ryan my family and I are coming to see the battleship in 2 weeks from Mount Desert Island Maine
Funny, my 25 foot sail boat had the same bottom paint as New Jersey. In fact it came from the same van. I worked at the Long Beach Naval shipyard marina. We got all the partial cans of paint the ship yard couldn’t use. So I used some on the bottom of my boat.
That’s cool
my dad worked for the Grand Trunk Western railroad in the car shops. there were many many friends of the family and our family too that had things painted GTW Blue lol...
Yes, I can think of a couple things from any ship that's important enough to be a museum that the museum should have. However, I don't know if you've missed any of them. I assume you haven't. Here's a list of some examples.
1. The helm wheel and engine controls.
2. The alarm klaxon with sounds to play.
3. Figurines of important commanders in uniform.
4. Shells, guns and other armaments.
5. List of everyone who died on that ship while serving.
6. Ship history as videos of engagements, deeds.
7. History of the ship's creation and invention.
8. Reenactments of battle stations by tourists aboard the museum ship, led by former sailors who served the ship. Thus a sense of the sudden chaos, organization, sounds, commands and fun for tourists. So, the tourists hustle to their combat stations, Mann the controls or stand by them, till signaled all's well and can return to the main tour. Enough reality so they return for more of such fun opportunities, talk with former sailors at their battle stations leading them through hatches and hallways to their respective stations, promote the ship, support the efforts to maintain the history of the US Navy and most importantly, start a public trend of more ships saved, more history remembered. What city or ship museum doesn't want to give tourists aboard ship not only an educational experience, but a taste of the conditions of serving while promoting and supporting their loved local museum? How many children would appreciate the sacrifices of the 'Greatest Generation' and want to be part of future service to America because they were inspired by such a meaningful event as battle stations aboard a great ship?
Granted, number 8 is not an item, but could be done by grateful volunteers sharing the ship and their memories. And the possibility of New Jersey being the first to start this, to work out the kinks, seems to me the very basis of why New Jersey is special, loved and respected. It led where others followed.
We visited USS New Jersey. I took pictures of my kids seated in the chair that admirals had sat in while at sea looking out and pondering thoughts of battle and success. I found it awesome
I don´t know how heavy it is but the ship´d bell is always of significance
That's one badass art deco phone. The decoration and design is just beautiful
Save yourself Ryan. You are the most valuable item on the ship!
And Libby Also...
I have to agree with you. That phone would be number one on my list too.
I would say the battleship's silver set would be a must save artifacts.
I agree.
Is the Battleships’s silver set on the New Jersey. I thought I heard on the the tour of the New Jersey that the State of New Jersey, Office of the Governor, had possession of the silver set, even though the museum had asked for the set to be returned to the ship. I don’t know if the set was returned to the ship/museum since I was on the tour.
Silver service set. That's what I would grab on the way out.. 😎
The ships Chronometers. You should have three of them.
The sailors are the ones who make ships come to life and give them personality
When I was part of Navy shipbuilding in the 1980s, our new phone systems had a feature called "Hunt The Not-Busy". So, if you dialed, for instance, Forward DC, and the number you dialed was busy, the system would automatically dial the next number assigned to that space
CoooL!
Sequential Hunt
Not a "telephone" in the normal usage of the term, but more along the lines of an isolated intercom group.
As far as dialing off of the ship while in port goes, I'm assuming that the 80's refit came with an AT&T Dimension 2000 PBX system. If this is the case, then ANY dial telephone is CAPABLE of making an outside call. The key is if the extension is programmed to ALLOW an outside call. In case of issues with making an outside call, the phones in the IC Shop would always be allowed to make an outside call...purely for troubleshooting purposes, of course.
Came here to see if fellow telecom nerds had added details like this. Hahaha... yes, the "test" phones and circuits... every PBX has some! Grin...
@@NatesRandomVideo Always be nice to the IC guys...they control the phone system...and the volume of the 1MC speaker located near your rack...
@@kevincrosby1760 oh yes the equivalent of a band being nice to their sound person, what you want me to turn your suck knob up I don't know why?
That is quite a telephone! reminds me of something similar to the small office PBX 1n2 ( I can't remember what it's called ) systems combined customized and crammed in a fancy box. Looks like it might have direct line capabilities and was wired up at some point. Telephone technology is amazing how forwards and backwards compliant things are.
Edit: just went through all the comments, surprising there's not very many telephone folk on here.
And Oh 1a2 key system.
@@imark7777777 Ah, the past joys of 66B blocks and 3-pair jumper wire. Oh, nothing like terminating 25-pr station wiring with amphenol connectors.
If BB-62 were to catch fire or whatever, I reckon you'd need to run in and try to save a 16-inch projectile. /joke
im guessing you would want the ships silver, but reproducing a batch of those phones would be fun.
The silver could probably be recovered later. Even so it wouldn't mean much without the ship
DON'T rush back in to get stuff. We like our curators uncooked ;)
Ships had sound powered phones and voice tubes
Mabye you should save the spanner to the propellers, haha! Thanks for the nice videos..
Would really love to see a more comprehensive overview of some of the internal communication systems on the ship, especially during it's WWII configuration. I know you've had some videos on the topic but I live for the really niche stuff.
it would likely only entail 1mc, 21mc's, etc (bitch boxes), and sp phones.
I’d like to see that as well. I’d also like to see more on the switching between redundant instruments and circuits to function despite battle damage.
@@leftyo9589 If you couldn't solder before installing a new bitch box, you surely could by the time that you were done.
I think that the ship originally came with dial phones, but of the old electro-mechanical switch type.
@@htroberts Barrel switches. Lots of barrel switches.
SP phone circuits generally had a casualty switchbox somewhere, so that you could selectively isolate individual legs of the circuit to remove a damaged leg from the circuit.
Personally, I’d grab the hot seat. But I might want some gloves
I think the ships log would be an important artifact.
First thing that came to mind was the ships China set.
Do we know what some of the important phone “numbers” were on New Jersey? Was damage control’s number close to 911?
One would want the voice encryption device to go with this telephone in the museum.
The stories it could tell
If the WWII version of New Jersey ONLY had a fully manual exchange (plug & cord, with call routing by humans), then the Strowger dial at the top is a strange thing to include.
It seems to be two things in one box: a push to call/talk intercom system connecting the flag spaces, and a dial phone (the handset itself is dual purpose). When you say it overheated, I am guessing you mean the "handsfree" part. That would have been rather iffy technology in WWII, as the only techniques to make it work would've been analogue, and would probably neeed regular maintenance because of electronics drift (in my world it was known as "hybrid balance"). The "push to talk' function is the lever at the bottom (not sure if the only mic is on the handset, but it probably has a crude one built into the box too for conferencing}.
Obviously there was a Strowger exchange (dial-it-yourself) on the ship, but that also means a phone unit such as this could also be used to dial calls in port (the first digit would connect to the on-shore system) - no reason not to, unless there was some security issue involved, for example some sort of call encryption system for the shore phone. Those were rare in WWII and big - the hot-line between Churchill and the White House, for example was a room full of electronics, but very secure all the same - but simpler things such as voice modulation would be smaller packages and make interception quite difficult.
Even though Strowger systems were in use, manual exchanges were still common, not least because the Important Person could request a connection from the exchange operator, then get on with something else while the connection was being set up. The Important Person wasn't waiting around for someone to answer the ring at the other end. I can imagine this would be relevant in the heat of battle too, although more for the ship's staff than the Admiral's. Also, on land the exchange operators talked to each other, so in London during the Blitz, for example, they knew which parts of the city had working lines and which other areas were out of commission, and could re-route calls around damaged parts of the network.
Great video from the battleship.
Ryan, the artifact that must be saved is the forward turret. Just grab that on the way out. All 3 guns too please. Thanks
great video Ryan. Be sure to get the Curator off the ship too! The knowlage in is head is priceless!
I think a few of us might go running back in to rescue a certain ships curator...
I'm guessing it wouldn't have a switch for it's own space so you could determine where it was by which space is missing?
I swear I've seen that exact phone on Pawn Stars
If there is a fire, rush back and save the ship. The phone is historically significant and all that but the ship is awesome and you should be able to damage control a fire on a battleship. Do test and make sure all of the fire fighting equipment is functional though, you wouldn't want a repeat of the USS Bonhomme Richard.
A repeat of that disaster would require a bunch of shipyard workers who leave flammable substances (trash) wherever they feel like it, and feel that a firewatch is the buddy you station down the passageway to ensure that some squid doesn't catch you doing Hot Work without a permit.
Dumbest I ever personally caught was the welder using a 1/2 full 5-gal can of Laquer Thinner as a stool while welding.
That's actually a good question. What would happen if, God forbid, there were a fire on board? Does she have something like a sprinkler system?
Your first artifact saved should be the 16" shell hanging from the I-beam.
What to grab? A fire extinguisher, the whole ship is important enough to be saved.
In the event of disaster, Ryan should grab Libby, or Libby grabs Ryan ! #priorities
Good job
You should go in and save the floppy step stool from the powder storage.
I think that, in the event of a big emergency, you should go in and grab the red toilet seat. With appropriate Personal Protective Equipment, of course.
Yeah, you'd probably wanna grab the targeting computers cause good luck finding anyone today that would be capable of building another one!
There are 3 other Iowa’s so the targeting computer on NJ isn’t that historically significant.
Ryan Interesting Video . How do you keep coming up with new Ideas to keep ahead of the Pace that you are creating new ones . I liked those photos showing the Phones in the surrounding area . Any photos of the Ships Library ? Hint hint . Stay safe .
I operated the ship's library from November 1988 until decommissioning in February 1991.
The phone would be from the space that is missing from the list of spaces on the row of toggle switches.
Good word sir
I can just imagine someone trying to carry off a 16” triple gun turret.
I "found" it in a dumpster. Wink Wink.
I was an IC2, I hated pulling into port in some crappy place because I knew I would on that dang peer, while watching folks go on liberty, while I'm getting screamed at by the XO "Where's the Captains LAND LINE!!! RWAAAAR!".. It sucked!
I was wondering how local tiein would work and imagining that myself.
Another great one! You should do one one the ships anchors and their machinery.
I would say Admiral Halsey's bed. I would say that's even more significant than the phone. You absolutely know it was his.
what an awesome artifact. it would work as Toby said..
All I can think of is the chart room or any maps/ historical documents found, any ship schematics would be nice but the copy you have has been circulated well in books.
Rush back and grab the silverware from the admirals cabin
5:06 “One ringy-dingy… two ringy-dingy… A gracious good morning to you. Have I reached the party to whom I am speaking?"
For some reason that sounds familiar don't know why is it from something-or-other if not just made up?
By the way I've used a party-line a few times in my life even know that was still back in the the naughty use before and even later.
But then again those places very small towns isolated areas.
Where are party line still existed.
One which I remember the the phone worked in that area.
And there was instructions by almost every phone because most people were not familiar with this.
You would dial the number for the number you wanted to call hang up and when everything was ready for your call to go through the phone would ring and you'd pick up and you'd be on your call.
Back then that was a modern- day party line.
At first I didn't realize they were still around and that's what it was I just saw this Oddball phone system for small town.
But then again who knows helps you phones or even in the area I think there was literally like one stop light at least with actual stoplight everything else of Lee was just if it even has a stoplight was the blinking Beacon with the 4-way red lenses in the middle of the intersections.
And also there were areas where there were no stoplights oh there there would only be one even.
I think there were even one or two mushroom beacons I think this might be in the next town over.
Those pretty much have a sister to adjust nowadays but I still remember them you times here and there.
Wanting on remember even handstop like that look more like railroad signals are short pedestals in the pavement.
Haven't seen it anywhere else but it was rather interesting.
It's possible that they were not delay your traffic lights from for some special purpose.
It's always cool to see some historical old something that is just obsolete not in use and like wondering what is that thing I've never seen that before.
But then again I'm really into electrical and other Antiquities where are you see something that you just don't see anymore or like wait a sec what is this or what was this that one time.
Always on the lookout for old insulators remnants of other old systems are Obsolete and otherwise.
One star to replace that was still on DC power back in the day and did a bit of work.
The thing was there was fluorescent lights but it was just too quiet for the age of the fluorescent lighting.
And he said well that's one reason why I wanted you to see this place.
They said surprise we're on DC power here!
Also I've seen two phase power at least twice.
It may ever even been in the same facility for the next town over
It should be a reasonable guess that in the listing of the other departments on the buttons the one that is not listed is 1 the phone is from. 🤔
You should not rush in to save anything. YOU are more important than any thing.
Admiral Halsey notified me. He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea. On that phone. ;-)
Ryan, I'm reasonably certain the the ship had an Automatic Electric 100 line telephone switch. This assumption is based on the overhead brackets that are still in the space that houses the latest switch which are identical to the bracketry for AE systems.
My theory was a Stromberg Carlson XY switch.
Physicaly they take up less room than a typical rotary motion SXS.
Less variety of spareparts needed too.
And dont depend on gravity. All functions use springs to return to idle.
Said that,
I dunno much about AE Switches. Maybe they made a comparable system ??
@@benjurqunov I Do know about AE exchanges as teh Navy sent me to school for them, and the bracketery are identical to the bracketry in my 1st ship. The SC system use entirely different cabinets and bracketry.
@@benjurqunov I would have guessed SC system based on studies, but have no personal experience.
I served during the AT&T Dimension 2000 era...
I'm sick of these unskippable ads. I want to fight TH-cam, but I'll settle for fighting the algorithm!
If its any consolation, the ads pay for the restoration of the ship!
ads what ads? I do a lot of A/V work and never know when I'm suddenly going to be playing a video on a large screen. There's also so many malicious ads and download buttons that I've been running a filtration plug in for years. I used to use one that allowed acceptable ads but then management of that kind of went sideways. so I switch to another U.B.O one which I haven't got around to learning how to lessen the filters.
Needless to say I only see them on my phone or tablet. Yeah it's like why bother making at skippable when it's only five seconds long or like the LG or Samsung one I can't remember which suddenly started and it was like an hour long press conference. Then there's the ones that try to scam people into buying $30 plug-in electric heaters saying that it's some sort of military technology and you don't want your grandparents to die? DO YOU?
the booklet of general plans. the scans are cool, but the originals have erase marks that let you see what got changed.
A 16" gun. I know they're heavy, so just grab one.
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What is the PBX? Where do all the phone lines meet? What equipment is there?
One of those battleshipers do it with 16 inches stickers
Sound powered phones are the best communication on a ship lol
Plug it into one of the old phone jacks and see if anybody answers...
Just my luck it'd be MacArthur looking for a pen.
In the 80san90s there was a system called water com, that was on inland boats that you could call home on just cost a lot to use,over a doller a minute back then
Did you find any of the 16-button AUTOVON or AUTOSEVOCOM phones on board?
What fire suppression do you have in case there is a fire 🔥???
Power bags of course.
In the event of a fire I think you should grab the hot seat.
Ships hand written logs, the stories found in a battle worn ships actions report could be good reading
Probably not logs are usually very dry it is only the most important things that are written down like turnovers, OOS, RTS, condition changes and casualties that occurred plus if it is engineering logs it is mainly just hourly gage readings
If I were rushing back into a ship on fire, I would try to save all of the original Ship's Plans and Upgrades Paperwork, although I would probably need an empty cargo van to carry it all.
Hey, here's an idea 💡
Let's not set the ship on fire.
M'Kay? Thanks.
Rescue the Stars and Stripes.
If it's for purely internal use why does it have a rotary dialer installed? Might a switchboard might be able to put it through to a landline if it had access to one?
Ships log, you pick a page and read it to all. It a look at a snapshot of time of the ship 🇺🇸⚓️🇺🇸
So I think if there is a fire on Battleship New Jersey Ryan should run in and save Battleship New Jersey single handedly.
BB = Brrring Brrringggg
The log books? Not sure if they’re on the ship or not.
Please leave out the obligatory questions at the end.
(CUT.)
Ah yes the predecessor to the J dial system