I genuinely can't believe they used that take of Talia's death. Christopher Nolan has directed good films. Marion Cotillard can act. How did this happen?
Oh sorry, you told me to calm down. I wasn't worked up like. It's just baffling innit. In my opinion aside from being well shot, it's a bad bad film, but this scene is the stinkiest part of a bag of shite.
Movie wasn’t perfect but definitely wasn’t shit that’s just your opinion. It is what it is but shit movies don’t end up over 8.0 on IMDb and if you view a movie from a comic perspective your gonna be letdown everytime too many ppl don’t know the material to even give a shit about Talia she was a means to an end for the movie Bane was the hype.
@@seanjuleson2876 I did specifically state that it was my opinion and in no way claimed it to be objective fact. It's an opinion I stand by, and not as a disappointed comic fan. I loved his first two. I just genuinely am of the opinion The Dark Knight Rises is a shit film. It feels perfunctory and half arsed. Reaching for something to say but aside from the plane and football field set pieces, it's all a bit half baked. Bane was the hype, and I kind of liked him for a bit (I find his voice and dialogue comical throughout) but he turns out just to be a puppet. For me, and as I feel you need me to reiterate for you that it is just my opinion, it was a massively disappointing finale to the trilogy. Not Batman V Superman bad, but bad nonetheless. "movies don’t end up over 8.0 on IMDb" I don't put much stock in IMDB scores. Films get flooded with reviews opening weekend from people that are hyped to see films succeed/fail on audience scores. Sometimes their are campaigns to vote 10 or 1 depending on a films politics. I don't consider it a reliable metric. Regardless I don't need anyone to agree with me. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here.
Marion Cotillard has expressed her feelings about her death scene in several French interviews and the backclash around it. She basically admitted that her performance was very bad in this scene but expressed sadness around the fact that people focused a lot on this little "mistake" she made, overlooking all of her performances in the rest of her career, stating that one minor flip isn't that big of a deal and shouldn't erase all the rest from people's memory.
I mean, that's fair. She's a really good actor and her performance in this movie is overall pretty good. I think that's just what makes this scene stand out even more. Plus I don't even blame her completely since they could've easily had her do more takes.
Nolan: Gonna take a quick bathroom break. I'll be right back. Staff: Should we stop ? Nolan: No just finish the scene. Cut after Talia dies. Y'all got this right? Staff: 👍
And all three stand there looking goofy. One of those movies that needs some type of recut or something. Goodish movie but so many odd/off moments that let it down and the final to a otherwise brillant trilogy. The first two are 👌🏻 while this one 🤷🏻♂️
She's not just 'monologuing', she's also conveying the fact that they're screwed. She rigged the fusion reactor to flood itself, so there's no way to stabilize the core. That's kinda something they need to be listening to... It's like I have to explain the whole movie to some of y'all.
@@leecroft7311 You say that, but then again you're not even picking up on the point of the scene, which is that Talia tells them they can't stabilize the core (bomb) because she rigged the reactor. That's why they're standing there listening to her. If the movie needs a "re-cut" it certainly shouldn't be commissioned by people with barely a remedial understanding of the movies they watch...
There are so many funny things about this scene. Talia's goofy ass middle school theater class "death" scene Batman, Catwoman, and Gordon staring at Talia like how i used to stare at my Hot Pockets cooking in the microwave when i was 12. Gordon suffering minor injuries in a crash that just killed a woman. The fact that they listen to Talia's ENTIRE monologue as the city is about to get blown to dust by an atom bomb. Bruce having zero reaction to Talia dying and going straight to hooking up the nuke to his bat-copter despite looking giga-invested in Talia's speech seconds prior. I love Nolan's Batman trilogy but this scene was so goofy compared to the tone that these movies normally have 😂
I want to add how 3:05 Batman fire launches the truck, missile hits the window, the fire hits the Window, the Window isnt destroy but the guy driving dies by "scare" lmaoooo And Thalía is ok even if she is with the driver 😂
And Fox, because the actor lost mobility is his left hand due to car accident, the camera is always hiding his hands. And he likely was unable to climb the ladder. Now I think about it, all the goofiness present in this scene is likely present to hide they could not record Fox doing computer stuff.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den Interesting...do you have any link on that for me to check out, that could explain why the take was left in. Behind the scenes politics are always interesting.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den how stupid do you have to be to believe that? Nolan is a notorious perfectionist and you think that he'll do some petty shit like that and fuck up a part of his own movie to punish her? jesus christ people, use your brains, that's why we got skulls to protect them.
I can’t not see Pete Holmes whenever I see any scene from this movie. I think the Batman suit is just not meant to be seen in the day time, and this entire movie takes place in the day for some reason. Looks so goofy.
I don't know what's goofier. The open mouth head tilt Batman has going on as she's delivering her final monolog, the sudden "oh yeah I'm supposed to be dead here" eye-close, or the fact that ultimately this is all just an elaborate remake of "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb"
There are some extraordinarily powerful moments in The Dark Knight Rises, but it does end up feeling like the sort of film Nolan put together because he was at a loose end and and had nothing else to do. The very fact he was happy with the way Miranda’s last scene was delivered just suggests his heart wasn’t in the movie.
@@tomasnichols8401 you mean like Talias plan? No that's more like a few wrapped up into one. I guess the biggest one would be not detonating the bomb while they had Bruce imprisoned. Gotham destroyed and Batman broken...literally both of her goals accomplished right there. Dont get the wrong idea, i love the Nolan trilogy but all of them have some plot holes. Dark Knight is the only one with excusable plotholes cause Joker does tend to have amazing luck in the source material.
@@darthmalagus I don't see how that's a "plot hole". Bane's whole speech to Bruce in that prison explains why they're not just gonna hit the button. They want Gotham to suffer - and Bruce to suffer - and that's not achievable without false hope, a lesson Bane learned in the pit, himself. The occupation of Gotham City is the same concept of the pit as extrapolated to a societal level. The point of the attack is not just about the nuke, it's about the effect of the faux revolution on the souls of those in Gotham and on the world at large. So with so much story/plot substantiation dedicated to explaining their motives on that, that's not a plot hole. Plot holes are unexplained. Bottom line, the LoS is not just there to blow Gotham up. If they didn't explain why they're not just gonna blow Gotham up, sure that'd be a plot hole, but they did. And what's the deal with the Joker, btw? TDK shows how corrupt Gotham is, and how deeply Maroni's influence runs; he's got people everywhere. Those people, that influence, becomes the Joker's tool in staying a step ahead of everyone. I wouldn't say anything is unexplained in what the Joker pulls off.
Sure there is, he took less of a hit in the trailer than she did in the front of the truck. Force of impact comes down to stopping distance. The truck went off at a 45 degree angle and rotated in-air with the nose slamming down first, crushing the cabin, followed by the rear coming down after. The only cushion to the front was the bending of the frame. The deceleration of the trailer was not as instantaneous because there was an initial deceleration from the first hit, followed by the truck rotating about its center of mass and the trailer landing on the ground after. It's a hard hit for Jim Gordon, but, unlike Talia, nothing folds in on him, and his body had significantly more time to stop after the initial impact. Still sustained an arm injury, though.
I have an idea how to make the scene better. After she could have said my father's work is done, she dies with the same face expression as she was saying it instead of closing her eyes
I just read an article on Screen Rant about Talia's death scene, and upon watching it again, I think it would have been cool if she wasn't completely immobilized by the crash, like she's still dying, but she puts up a fight and goes down swinging. It would've been a pretty epic way to go down. Her last line could still be "My father's work is done" but she could've delivered it with such biblical fury that it would be quotable to this day. All's I'm saying is this could've been a legendary death scene instead of the limp noodle it wound up being
Talia is such a fool, taking her anger out to kill thousands of innocent people to get revenge on Batman to avenge her father, he didn’t kill him, he just didn’t save him. Talia may have been lucky to cover her true intentions for a long time but she’s an even bigger fool to think she already won but she didn’t, hope she saw her failure as a ghost before being dragged to hell.
'There's nowhere...to go.' was that awkward pause needed?You can tell at this point Nolan stopped caring and was only trying to finish the movie not make sure the acting or delivery works
one thing i appreciate about the music direction is that at 0:05 when batman appears in his vehicle to face talia, it’s the same part in the music as when he lands in the car of the train to face ra’s al ghul in BB similarly, when talia falls to her death around 3:20, it’s the same part in the music as when her father falls to his
Nolan's Batman used guns to intimidate and remove obstacles. Snyder's Batman just shot people or blew them up. There's a pretty big difference there...
@@Azorian36 No, I'm commenting on a scene where Batman fires missiles at the road to push the truck towards the reactor and reinsert the core (bomb) to stabilize it, preventing detonation. This goal and intent is stated and restated numerous times within the scene ("They're pushing us to the entrance of the reactor", "You have to turn the truck east!"), and Batman is clearly showing restraint by firing off-target. Talia drove off the road out of her own reckless stubbornness to maintain her heading. There's no reason to have such a misunderstanding of the scene at this point, except arguing in bad faith.
@@tomasnichols8401 Apparently you misunderstood the part where it shows the driver get killed by the missiles, requiring Talia to reach over and grab the wheel. Watch that part again I can tell you missed it.
@@Azorian36 The driver didn't get killed by missiles, all of which at that point hit the road, not the truck. How would a missile have hit the cabin and only killed the driver and not killed Talia? Your interpretation doesn't even make physical sense. Batman cut the road off by firing missiles at it to try and get them to turn, and Talia forced them to drive through the debris from the destroyed road, some of which struck the driver. Whether or not it killed him, Talia took over and continued driving the same heading. What you seem to be forgetting, among everything else, is that they were on a suicide run, so Batman was effectively attempting to SAVE their lives, not END their lives, along with saving everyone else in Gotham City from nuclear annihilation. He could've gunned them both down at any point and taken the bomb, but he didn't. He showed as much restraint as possible and never broke his rule, which, I'm sure you also conveniently misremember, was actually "I'm no executioner". He never had a rule in those movies against inadvertently or incidentally contributing to someone's death. That's not even the comic book no-kill rule, that's the Animated Series. Nolan didn't adapt BTAS. He set up rules as he interpreted them from the modern comics (which substantiate the character), and he adhered to them. But to equate any of that to Batfleck - who had no rules of engagement ever established in those movies - unnecessarily blowing up occupied vehicles by firing high caliber rounds directly on target and then driving over their smoldering remains is an entirely bad faith argument. You misrepresented the scene, whether or not you actually understand it. There's even a beat where Batman uses the machine gun to shoot down at the road and make the truck hang a left.
Me personally I don’t think the big issue is of him killing it’s when you make that big change to Batman as a character and don’t even a knowledge it like Batman in bvs there is no reason for it other then Snyder thought that made him cool and edgy it’s like making a Batman movie and making him wear pink swimming trunks and literally not explain or expand on it at all that’s why people get upset when you change stuff so integral to the Batman character and don’t explain or even care that you changed something so meaningful to the character
@@werovivero9219 They hinted that the reason he was more violent was because Joker killed Robin in that universe. They could’ve expounded on it more tho
JGL: Everyone back on the bus! Old Guy: There’s nowhere TO go. JGL: *long pause* On the bus! Not sure why I thought that part was funny, maybe it’s just the way the dialogue was spoken haha
Noticed how Joseph Gordon levitt and Heath ledger both came out in “10 things I hate about you” and they also both happen to come out in the dark knight trilogy
Dark Knight Rises has a fair amount of stuff in it that I don't love, but they're at least presented in a relatively good way overall. But I'm genuinely curious as to why they used this in the final product. Like, were there no other takes they could've used?
Lol they went so over the top with this movie. I wish they toned it down a bit, could’ve ended the trilogy so much better. Was hoping for a restrained, grounded plot that focused on the dynamic between Batman and Bane. Also, no Talia twist. Oh well
I would like to think 0:19 is the reason why Blake threw away his badge later when he saw the police were willing to blow up the bridge and felt that was betrayal Also in addition to the bad acting comments, does anyone else feel the climactic score associated with defeating the villain at 3:18 was premature and abrupt in this scene?
This film raises much more questions than answers... It is filled with plotholes and is anticlimactic af... First time I saw it i liked it, but ever since i cannot stand to watch it again except from the pit escape scene that was awesome
I remember being 11 years old when I first watched this in 2012. I couldn’t do shit but laugh when she died and I’m glad everyone else feels the same way years later. This was definitely a shit take to put in.
Nolan has a complete blind spot for half the world’s population when it comes to their storytelling and characters. Seriously - I don’t think he’s capable of a decent movie which truly centres women instead of men. This is the kind of scene which illustrates his weakness in this area.
I think the issue here was the position they decided her body to be in. She is supposed to be somewhat crushed from the impact I imagine. I think because her head was tucked inward instead of maybe back into the chair, she could have made a more natural neck movement? There’s not much motion to be made besides a sideways jerk, if your face is tucked into your neck. She probably knew it was awkward from the start. She probably didn’t want to question Nolan’s choice of body position 😅
@@TheMemorialStorm sorry if I m not smart enough for TH-cam comments section. To be honest, English is my 4th language, Miss I-m-better-at-literature-than-u🫡
I love coming to the comment sections of scenes from this movie to read people hold this movie up like it's high art and not the absolute schlock fest throwback that it is. Hardy performance as Bane just oozes camp and along with the other outright goofy shit is played straight with such self seriousness I wonder if others are watching the same movie. Try and defend that take of Talia suddenly falling dead or say its not meant to elicit laughter.. You're telling me Nolans whos arguably greatest tool is editing would use that take? If for whatever reason they didn't get coverage you can just cut around it, the dude walks around his sets quoting the macgruber movie he is on the joke and I guess you dark knight truthers are the punchline
For those who are still confused about Marion Cotillard ‘s performance, there is a simple reason that somehow nobody catches up. She was PREGNANT Yes, Nolan actually dare to ask a pregnant woman to play in a blockbuster without thinking straight. There is even rumors applying that Nolan has constantly bullied and harassed Marion so she can play in the movie, she eventually gave up and put her health in danger for him. But at the same time, she also signed for an other movie, therefore couldn’t totally be free for the film which infuriated Nolan. So Nolan voluntarily keep this take as a payback because he thought he was somehow the victim. So yes, Nolan is the responsible and there are some clues that he is profoundly misogynist
Probably in my Top 10 Worst films which people love for no apparent reason. Sometimes I dust it off just to remind myself just how bad a film can get regardless of budget.
At this point Nolan simply wanted to wrap up the trilogy his heart wasn’t in it and it shows in this movie bad acting, some plot holes and bad fight choreography although not a bad movie
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So nobody gonna talk about Batman killing Talia's driver with missiles after making such a big deal of his no killing rule( even though he did kill people in the other movies) 3:07
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I genuinely can't believe they used that take of Talia's death. Christopher Nolan has directed good films. Marion Cotillard can act. How did this happen?
Christopher Nolan has directed good films.. what a cocky, useless comment 🤣🤣 it’s a great movie, that small part is just crap. Calm down
@@waggna469 Calm down mate. Also TDKR is shit.
Oh sorry, you told me to calm down. I wasn't worked up like. It's just baffling innit. In my opinion aside from being well shot, it's a bad bad film, but this scene is the stinkiest part of a bag of shite.
Movie wasn’t perfect but definitely wasn’t shit that’s just your opinion. It is what it is but shit movies don’t end up over 8.0 on IMDb and if you view a movie from a comic perspective your gonna be letdown everytime too many ppl don’t know the material to even give a shit about Talia she was a means to an end for the movie Bane was the hype.
@@seanjuleson2876 I did specifically state that it was my opinion and in no way claimed it to be objective fact. It's an opinion I stand by, and not as a disappointed comic fan. I loved his first two. I just genuinely am of the opinion The Dark Knight Rises is a shit film. It feels perfunctory and half arsed. Reaching for something to say but aside from the plane and football field set pieces, it's all a bit half baked. Bane was the hype, and I kind of liked him for a bit (I find his voice and dialogue comical throughout) but he turns out just to be a puppet. For me, and as I feel you need me to reiterate for you that it is just my opinion, it was a massively disappointing finale to the trilogy. Not Batman V Superman bad, but bad nonetheless.
"movies don’t end up over 8.0 on IMDb" I don't put much stock in IMDB scores. Films get flooded with reviews opening weekend from people that are hyped to see films succeed/fail on audience scores. Sometimes their are campaigns to vote 10 or 1 depending on a films politics. I don't consider it a reliable metric. Regardless I don't need anyone to agree with me. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here.
Marion Cotillard has expressed her feelings about her death scene in several French interviews and the backclash around it. She basically admitted that her performance was very bad in this scene but expressed sadness around the fact that people focused a lot on this little "mistake" she made, overlooking all of her performances in the rest of her career, stating that one minor flip isn't that big of a deal and shouldn't erase all the rest from people's memory.
Makes it all the more funny
I mean, that's fair. She's a really good actor and her performance in this movie is overall pretty good. I think that's just what makes this scene stand out even more. Plus I don't even blame her completely since they could've easily had her do more takes.
She also said there were 11 other takes and this was the worst one. Not her fault really
That's actually way nicer than fat neck beards deserve. Neckbeards shouldn't be seen or heard.
She had some beef with Nolan, that's why this scene ended up like this.
Nolan: Gonna take a quick bathroom break. I'll be right back.
Staff: Should we stop ?
Nolan: No just finish the scene. Cut after Talia dies. Y'all got this right?
Staff: 👍
"A nuclear bomb is about to go off, destroying the city and killing millions of people. Let's all stop and listen to Talia monologue."
And all three stand there looking goofy. One of those movies that needs some type of recut or something. Goodish movie but so many odd/off moments that let it down and the final to a otherwise brillant trilogy. The first two are 👌🏻 while this one 🤷🏻♂️
She's not just 'monologuing', she's also conveying the fact that they're screwed. She rigged the fusion reactor to flood itself, so there's no way to stabilize the core. That's kinda something they need to be listening to... It's like I have to explain the whole movie to some of y'all.
@@leecroft7311 You say that, but then again you're not even picking up on the point of the scene, which is that Talia tells them they can't stabilize the core (bomb) because she rigged the reactor. That's why they're standing there listening to her. If the movie needs a "re-cut" it certainly shouldn't be commissioned by people with barely a remedial understanding of the movies they watch...
@@tomasnichols8401 this whole scene is goofy, regardless of if the plot makes sense or not, pea brain.
@@tomasnichols8401It’s a shit part to a shit movie. Worse than BvS level of shit.
4:38 the way they’re staring at her looks goofy asf 💀💀
Not as goofy as the way she just slips into death in a snap 🤣
Like they can’t believe this is a real scene.
But she looked hot doing it
Gary Oldman was like, "wtf was that?" 😅
I GOT to LOVE the insta teleport between 4:38 to 4:47 lmao
She did not stick her tongue out. That is why it seems bad. 😅
There are so many funny things about this scene.
Talia's goofy ass middle school theater class "death" scene
Batman, Catwoman, and Gordon staring at Talia like how i used to stare at my Hot Pockets cooking in the microwave when i was 12.
Gordon suffering minor injuries in a crash that just killed a woman.
The fact that they listen to Talia's ENTIRE monologue as the city is about to get blown to dust by an atom bomb.
Bruce having zero reaction to Talia dying and going straight to hooking up the nuke to his bat-copter despite looking giga-invested in Talia's speech seconds prior.
I love Nolan's Batman trilogy but this scene was so goofy compared to the tone that these movies normally have 😂
I can't get over the fact that they had s3x
I want to add how 3:05 Batman fire launches the truck, missile hits the window, the fire hits the Window, the Window isnt destroy but the guy driving dies by "scare" lmaoooo
And Thalía is ok even if she is with the driver 😂
And Fox, because the actor lost mobility is his left hand due to car accident, the camera is always hiding his hands. And he likely was unable to climb the ladder.
Now I think about it, all the goofiness present in this scene is likely present to hide they could not record Fox doing computer stuff.
“My father’s work is done… I am dead now” 😑
More like 😵
Had not watched this movie but dang that death scene acting was terrible...like couldnt they have taken another better shot?
@Chairman Jao Bai Den Interesting...do you have any link on that for me to check out, that could explain why the take was left in. Behind the scenes politics are always interesting.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den Well if that is true then it might explain why Marion Cottilard is not making American films anymore. I could be wrong.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den he did two movies with her, this and Inception. Highly doubt she gave him a difficult time
@Chairman Jao Bai Den how stupid do you have to be to believe that? Nolan is a notorious perfectionist and you think that he'll do some petty shit like that and fuck up a part of his own movie to punish her? jesus christ people, use your brains, that's why we got skulls to protect them.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, you actually believe that crap?
Nah nolan did her dirty with that take 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
He did himself dirty
4:39 has to be the funniest fucking shot ever, how did they actually use this 😂
I can’t not see Pete Holmes whenever I see any scene from this movie. I think the Batman suit is just not meant to be seen in the day time, and this entire movie takes place in the day for some reason. Looks so goofy.
This movie is goofy af
Did you see Gary Oldman's face?
That wasn't acting.
I don't know what's goofier. The open mouth head tilt Batman has going on as she's delivering her final monolog, the sudden "oh yeah I'm supposed to be dead here" eye-close, or the fact that ultimately this is all just an elaborate remake of "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb"
Yeah don't talk
@@kainanpoonenEverything in this comment is true. 😂
There are some extraordinarily powerful moments in The Dark Knight Rises, but it does end up feeling like the sort of film Nolan put together because he was at a loose end and and had nothing else to do. The very fact he was happy with the way Miranda’s last scene was delivered just suggests his heart wasn’t in the movie.
Yeah this just felt like an half-assed attempt to end the trilogy which is a shame since the first 2 movies are amazing.
@chitty mcpoopypants Name one.
@@tomasnichols8401 you mean like Talias plan? No that's more like a few wrapped up into one. I guess the biggest one would be not detonating the bomb while they had Bruce imprisoned. Gotham destroyed and Batman broken...literally both of her goals accomplished right there. Dont get the wrong idea, i love the Nolan trilogy but all of them have some plot holes. Dark Knight is the only one with excusable plotholes cause Joker does tend to have amazing luck in the source material.
@@darthmalagus I don't see how that's a "plot hole". Bane's whole speech to Bruce in that prison explains why they're not just gonna hit the button. They want Gotham to suffer - and Bruce to suffer - and that's not achievable without false hope, a lesson Bane learned in the pit, himself. The occupation of Gotham City is the same concept of the pit as extrapolated to a societal level. The point of the attack is not just about the nuke, it's about the effect of the faux revolution on the souls of those in Gotham and on the world at large. So with so much story/plot substantiation dedicated to explaining their motives on that, that's not a plot hole. Plot holes are unexplained. Bottom line, the LoS is not just there to blow Gotham up. If they didn't explain why they're not just gonna blow Gotham up, sure that'd be a plot hole, but they did. And what's the deal with the Joker, btw? TDK shows how corrupt Gotham is, and how deeply Maroni's influence runs; he's got people everywhere. Those people, that influence, becomes the Joker's tool in staying a step ahead of everyone. I wouldn't say anything is unexplained in what the Joker pulls off.
Because he want joker but Heath is dead
Gordon was on the same tank as Talia, right? No way in hell he stays conscious and upright after a crash like that lol.
This movie is terrible.
The bomb saved his life. He hold onto it.
@@rexcrossnet That makes no sense
Sure there is, he took less of a hit in the trailer than she did in the front of the truck. Force of impact comes down to stopping distance. The truck went off at a 45 degree angle and rotated in-air with the nose slamming down first, crushing the cabin, followed by the rear coming down after. The only cushion to the front was the bending of the frame. The deceleration of the trailer was not as instantaneous because there was an initial deceleration from the first hit, followed by the truck rotating about its center of mass and the trailer landing on the ground after. It's a hard hit for Jim Gordon, but, unlike Talia, nothing folds in on him, and his body had significantly more time to stop after the initial impact. Still sustained an arm injury, though.
@@tomasnichols8401 You wrote an essay to justify Nolan's awful writing lmao.
The worst death ever !!!! 😂😂
Hishe?
I don’t mind.
Robin: "you are KILLING US!"
Also Robin: "do you think they need to hear that rn?"
Worst death scene ever
Just wait till you see Bane's.
Watched this movie again tonight
4:39 is so goofy!
1:22 best part. so comic booky
How did this make the final cut lol
Dang, he fucken merc'd that driver 3:06
@Deadpool why would you reply with “ok”? Lmao wtf
@@jimbeam2299 Ok
'Batman doesn't kill people' i love it when they say that 😁
I have an idea how to make the scene better. After she could have said my father's work is done, she dies with the same face expression as she was saying it instead of closing her eyes
My fav death scene ever
3:19 me too.
Dude, she died like how when children play dead when they are playing 😂🤣😅
I just read an article on Screen Rant about Talia's death scene, and upon watching it again, I think it would have been cool if she wasn't completely immobilized by the crash, like she's still dying, but she puts up a fight and goes down swinging. It would've been a pretty epic way to go down. Her last line could still be "My father's work is done" but she could've delivered it with such biblical fury that it would be quotable to this day.
All's I'm saying is this could've been a legendary death scene instead of the limp noodle it wound up being
0:01 This is why I love this movie: "The Bat" hovercraft.
It’s called the “Bat-Wing”
@@christianaupont8924 Nah, it's called 'The Bat.' Check the wiki:
batman.fandom.com/wiki/The_Bat
4:39 ruined the whole thing for me. I thought that in the theater.
what ruined it?
@@JOHN-cx6kn How they're all just staring stupidly at her
@@emell7025 interesting
@@emell7025 The actress isn't well known for her ability to make a convincing death.
@@dlowery51 what about La Vie en Rose?
i love it when the bat and cat team up
Worst batman and catwoman pair ever.
@@tiaaaron3278your opinion bale played batman perfectly same as Anne
This is one of scenes created ever
4:47 😵
Talia is such a fool, taking her anger out to kill thousands of innocent people to get revenge on Batman to avenge her father, he didn’t kill him, he just didn’t save him.
Talia may have been lucky to cover her true intentions for a long time but she’s an even bigger fool to think she already won but she didn’t, hope she saw her failure as a ghost before being dragged to hell.
Meh, the "he didn’t kill him, he just didn’t save him." Is like saying: "I didn't kill you, the gun did" after shooting someone.
Actually not just thousands, 12 million people! That’s the population of Gotham.
@@MarioCastillo-vy7nc good point
I prefer Talia from Arkham City than Dark Knight Returns.
@@BiangelTheGOAT yeah in that universe she saved him or atleast tried to but got shot in the back
'There's nowhere...to go.' was that awkward pause needed?You can tell at this point Nolan stopped caring and was only trying to finish the movie not make sure the acting or delivery works
Talia dies almost exactly like how her father did with how the rail train and the truck falls. The scenes mirror each other
It reminds me of die hard and die hard with a vengeance on hans and Simon Gruber’s death.
one thing i appreciate about the music direction is that at 0:05 when batman appears in his vehicle to face talia, it’s the same part in the music as when he lands in the car of the train to face ra’s al ghul in BB
similarly, when talia falls to her death around 3:20, it’s the same part in the music as when her father falls to his
Worst Performed Death Scene in a Big Budget Film I have ever seen, from a Nolan Film too!
No one talks about the incredible lack of cars and pedestrians, at daylight, in a city!
Batman does not use guns. But his toys can. Yeah, now I understand the hypocrisy of people who hates Batfleck.
Nolan's Batman used guns to intimidate and remove obstacles. Snyder's Batman just shot people or blew them up. There's a pretty big difference there...
@@tomasnichols8401 Youre commenting on a scene where Batman fires missiles at a truck until it runs off the road and kills the occupants.
@@Azorian36 No, I'm commenting on a scene where Batman fires missiles at the road to push the truck towards the reactor and reinsert the core (bomb) to stabilize it, preventing detonation. This goal and intent is stated and restated numerous times within the scene ("They're pushing us to the entrance of the reactor", "You have to turn the truck east!"), and Batman is clearly showing restraint by firing off-target. Talia drove off the road out of her own reckless stubbornness to maintain her heading. There's no reason to have such a misunderstanding of the scene at this point, except arguing in bad faith.
@@tomasnichols8401 Apparently you misunderstood the part where it shows the driver get killed by the missiles, requiring Talia to reach over and grab the wheel. Watch that part again I can tell you missed it.
@@Azorian36 The driver didn't get killed by missiles, all of which at that point hit the road, not the truck. How would a missile have hit the cabin and only killed the driver and not killed Talia? Your interpretation doesn't even make physical sense. Batman cut the road off by firing missiles at it to try and get them to turn, and Talia forced them to drive through the debris from the destroyed road, some of which struck the driver. Whether or not it killed him, Talia took over and continued driving the same heading. What you seem to be forgetting, among everything else, is that they were on a suicide run, so Batman was effectively attempting to SAVE their lives, not END their lives, along with saving everyone else in Gotham City from nuclear annihilation. He could've gunned them both down at any point and taken the bomb, but he didn't. He showed as much restraint as possible and never broke his rule, which, I'm sure you also conveniently misremember, was actually "I'm no executioner". He never had a rule in those movies against inadvertently or incidentally contributing to someone's death. That's not even the comic book no-kill rule, that's the Animated Series. Nolan didn't adapt BTAS. He set up rules as he interpreted them from the modern comics (which substantiate the character), and he adhered to them. But to equate any of that to Batfleck - who had no rules of engagement ever established in those movies - unnecessarily blowing up occupied vehicles by firing high caliber rounds directly on target and then driving over their smoldering remains is an entirely bad faith argument. You misrepresented the scene, whether or not you actually understand it. There's even a beat where Batman uses the machine gun to shoot down at the road and make the truck hang a left.
bruh I dont wanna here nothin about Bale's no killing rule, watch 3:06, that dudes dead, also somehow, Talia dies lol
Me personally I don’t think the big issue is of him killing it’s when you make that big change to Batman as a character and don’t even a knowledge it like Batman in bvs there is no reason for it other then Snyder thought that made him cool and edgy it’s like making a Batman movie and making him wear pink swimming trunks and literally not explain or expand on it at all that’s why people get upset when you change stuff so integral to the Batman character and don’t explain or even care that you changed something so meaningful to the character
@@werovivero9219 I think Bats in BvS killed people because he had costume from DRR
@@werovivero9219 You must’ve not paid attention in BvS..
@@werovivero9219 They hinted that the reason he was more violent was because Joker killed Robin in that universe. They could’ve expounded on it more tho
JGL: Everyone back on the bus!
Old Guy: There’s nowhere TO go.
JGL: *long pause* On the bus!
Not sure why I thought that part was funny, maybe it’s just the way the dialogue was spoken haha
Especially when moments before he is screaming 'YOU KILLED US' then gets on the dude for removing hope of these kids.
"And scene!"
Did he just kill that driver?
İ think that driver teleported somewhere else 😜🤪🤪
Noticed how Joseph Gordon levitt and Heath ledger both came out in “10 things I hate about you” and they also both happen to come out in the dark knight trilogy
Also Larisa Oleynik was in “10 Things I hate about you” and she… probably saw a Batman movie once.
Dark Knight Rises has a fair amount of stuff in it that I don't love, but they're at least presented in a relatively good way overall. But I'm genuinely curious as to why they used this in the final product. Like, were there no other takes they could've used?
Guess Damian Wayne won’t exist in this Elseworld.
Good use of an old Oshkosh HEMTT.
3:19-3:24 say hello to your father. 4:46 my reaction to Talia’s death: yippee ki yay, Talia Al Ghul.
Lol they went so over the top with this movie. I wish they toned it down a bit, could’ve ended the trilogy so much better. Was hoping for a restrained, grounded plot that focused on the dynamic between Batman and Bane. Also, no Talia twist. Oh well
Man, that movie was like Die Hard 7: Batman
This movie didn't live up to The Dark Knight
Yeah no shit, neither does Batman Begins but they're both good movies.
@@LordVader1094 begins was better than rises imo
@@LordVader1094Fun fact: Batman Begins came out before The Dark Knight 🤯
@@Xpzilla wow, you're a genius!
4:49 Gordon: the worst death in history
Bane's death - too less emotion
Miranda's death - too much dramatism
How does she die
From bad acting.
he sudenlly choosed to die.... just because
Broken back/spinal
Broken neck, obviously
Died of her own cringe
Yeah, I completely forgot about this scene… and most of this movie.
Gary Oldman broke character at the end.
It was so bad marion collilard was never seen in Hollywood ever again. 😵😉😑😵
She's obviously not dead just passed out from the pain, clearly still breathing.
I would like to think 0:19 is the reason why Blake threw away his badge later when he saw the police were willing to blow up the bridge and felt that was betrayal
Also in addition to the bad acting comments, does anyone else feel the climactic score associated with defeating the villain at 3:18 was premature and abrupt in this scene?
Bruce Wayne/Batman - Claude
Catwoman/Selina Kyle - Maria Letore
Talia Al Ghul - Catalina
#GTAReference
Worst acting in a death scene ever. I mean wow a dog playing dead is better.
When youre not quite sure if dead or not
this movie looks like shit from the lack of effects on the bridge explosion that dude just jumps lmao
Absolutely the worst acting of a death i ever seen lol, I came here to see the comments hahaha
Best scene
...NOT!
@Chairman Jao Bai Den You can't have everything. The Dark Knight had the Joker, this film had clowns.
@@gotinogaden I think he likes it cause of how goofy and bad it is. It’s like watching a bad movie just to laugh at how bad it is.
@@jestersareawesome4332 I'm guessing he was sarcastic... but that's just me.
This film raises much more questions than answers... It is filled with plotholes and is anticlimactic af... First time I saw it i liked it, but ever since i cannot stand to watch it again except from the pit escape scene that was awesome
4:38 needs to be a reaction meme
04:39 Even Tommy Wiseau would do better
I remember being 11 years old when I first watched this in 2012. I couldn’t do shit but laugh when she died and I’m glad everyone else feels the same way years later. This was definitely a shit take to put in.
3:06 and, I saw this in the theaters when, I was 15 years old.
How does Gordon survive the fall at 3:30 but Talia doesn’t? In fact, she had a seat belt and he was standing unrestrained in the back.
I knew the movie would be trash when I heard some broad was actually the main villain.
Nolan has a complete blind spot for half the world’s population when it comes to their storytelling and characters. Seriously - I don’t think he’s capable of a decent movie which truly centres women instead of men. This is the kind of scene which illustrates his weakness in this area.
Nolan doesn't understand women, action, and natural dialogue, much more
Is that dude from Jon don 💀💀💀
Yep, that’s him
Yeah,I personally know him.
Estoy aquí por la liga de los súper cuates
I think the issue here was the position they decided her body to be in. She is supposed to be somewhat crushed from the impact I imagine. I think because her head was tucked inward instead of maybe back into the chair, she could have made a more natural neck movement? There’s not much motion to be made besides a sideways jerk, if your face is tucked into your neck. She probably knew it was awkward from the start. She probably didn’t want to question Nolan’s choice of body position 😅
I hv read less confusing versions of PhD thesis of Mathematical modelling problems than ur comment 😂
@DipankarGhosh007 That says more about your literacy than it does her writing.
@@DipankarGhosh007 what are you confused about sir? Lol sorry it was “too much” for you? Lol I didn’t even use any big words
@@Aimlessartist Oh sorry for pointing out stupid acting scenes in a not so great movie, my bad 🥺
@@TheMemorialStorm sorry if I m not smart enough for TH-cam comments section. To be honest, English is my 4th language, Miss I-m-better-at-literature-than-u🫡
What happened to no guns
This is a gun ? 3:18
His rule actually has to do with handheld firearms vehicle guns doesn’t matter because they aren’t like the gun Joe Chill used.
This scene single handedly ruins the legeacy
Why are they staring at Talia, iif the bomb has just a few minutes to go off? Also, didn't they have other takes of the death they could have used?
This is her wife right that's so complicated she just always use batman ..
Blurgggghhhh im ded!
Why did her head move like that
I love coming to the comment sections of scenes from this movie to read people hold this movie up like it's high art and not the absolute schlock fest throwback that it is.
Hardy performance as Bane just oozes camp and along with the other outright goofy shit is played straight with such self seriousness I wonder if others are watching the same movie.
Try and defend that take of Talia suddenly falling dead or say its not meant to elicit laughter.. You're telling me Nolans whos arguably greatest tool is editing would use that take? If for whatever reason they didn't get coverage you can just cut around it, the dude walks around his sets quoting the macgruber movie he is on the joke and I guess you dark knight truthers are the punchline
this movie was amazing
Eu gostei da cena.
Me julguem!
For those who are still confused about Marion Cotillard ‘s performance, there is a simple reason that somehow nobody catches up.
She was PREGNANT
Yes, Nolan actually dare to ask a pregnant woman to play in a blockbuster without thinking straight.
There is even rumors applying that Nolan has constantly bullied and harassed Marion so she can play in the movie, she eventually gave up and put her health in danger for him.
But at the same time, she also signed for an other movie, therefore couldn’t totally be free for the film which infuriated Nolan.
So Nolan voluntarily keep this take as a payback because he thought he was somehow the victim.
So yes, Nolan is the responsible and there are some clues that he is profoundly misogynist
the movie didn't have the blame of their argument
Probably in my Top 10 Worst films which people love for no apparent reason. Sometimes I dust it off just to remind myself just how bad a film can get regardless of budget.
Honestly it' probably because Tom Hardy's over the top acting is pretty amazing, I can rewatch his scenes for day lmao
So anticlimactic and cringe.
❤️🗺🌎🌍🌏 How’d Ya Think This Would End L (Al Ghul)
E’s (Bane’s) My All Time Time Favorite Role In The N&T (Batman&TheDarkKnight) Franchise Ahh
What a cryptic comment
At this point Nolan simply wanted to wrap up the trilogy his heart wasn’t in it and it shows in this movie bad acting, some plot holes and bad fight choreography although not a bad movie
Never Liked Talia in this version or any other version, and the league of A-holes
this movie kicks azz i didnt know ppl hated on it.
lmao
I forgot how boring the ending was
If you stop listening to the hype and actually pay attention to the details ALL of Nolan’s films are this bad and have moments like this.
Worst acted scenting the movie! Did Harvey Weinstein get her this part?
"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI
The security guard called and said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.
"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.
"Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs.” CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955.
"It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” -William Casey, CIA director, 1981
“Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out. ” ― Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World
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"There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. “ - Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987)
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Many other topics begin to make sense..
It has been said that after President Carter was finally briefed on the et reality, he was deeply upset. For several weeks..
MEANINGFUL congressional hearings, ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and others such as Bob Lazar, Andrew Basiago and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL cover-ups. It would also be nice to know what the results of the many years/projects involving the back-engineering of recovered "vehicles" are.
Who has been footing the bill for that? How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say?
The longer an "official" disclosure is delayed...the more disruptive it could be. The general public is waiting to be given permission to believe...to know.
Sir this is a Popeyes, would you like to order something or not?
This trilogy is the worst adaptation of a superhero comic ever
Behave yourself
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Nolan: aaaaand cut! great! next
Gary oldman: WHAAAAAAAT?
4:45
im only here cause griko said to look @ her death
So nobody gonna talk about Batman killing Talia's driver with missiles after making such a big deal of his no killing rule( even though he did kill people in the other movies) 3:07
They're staring her with the 'wtf is this acting ' face