Help Solve The Mystery Of The Metal Cups Mine
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They're leach tubs. I'm not positive what they were after, but the process is the same for most metals. They are stackable, so one 50 gallon drum could hold 6-7 at a time.
" Usually, sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid and oxalic acid can be used to warm and remove iron in kaolin. However, the sulfuric acid heating leaching iron removal method will lead to the destruction of the kaolinite lattice, which is difficult to maintain the crystal shape and physical properties of the kaolinite."
After, they would have been heated to burn off the acid and bring the metals out of the material once the lattice is changed.
Bingo. They're man-handleable tubs for loading crushed ore into a leach tank.
My guess is they weren't so much after getting materials out of it, but more so using it to test different areas of the mine to see if there was stuff present that would be worth going after.
I think you are exactly right.
Okay, you're gonna love this Gly! I did some deep diving into Kaolinite and what I found is almost precisely what you think it was! Kaolinite is a soft very light material with some very common impurities, but the largest portion of Kaolinite is Aluminum! So, While I couldn't find any info on these containers, this is my theory, that supports almost precisely what you thought it would be. These containers were packed full of Kaolinite and ether subjected to heat to cause the Aluminum to come out as metal or they were chemically treated, and I think it was Chemically treated, because you would have been able to stack these containers if they were chemically treated to leech the Aluminum out of the Kaolinite, and once that is done, the mineral would be altered so that it would not resemble the Kaolinite that is in the ground. But I'm not certain it was a chemical process, it could very well have been through heat, but it would have been difficult to run a blast furnace out there in the sticks, plus, there is no indication of a chimney for a furnace at all at the job site so I lean towards Chemical leeching and once the process was done, the containers could have been damaged by the chemical process so they dropped them in a Dump area. But I think this operation was more of an experimental thing than anything else, because the mining into the ground through adits was not very extensive and then the bulldozing up above probably yielded a lot of Kaolinite as well so, I think that this was a kind of trial run for a way to pull Aluminum out of a mineral known to have its primary makeup out of Aluminum. Ultimately, I think the process proved far too expensive for what it was yielding or there was some other aspect of it that in some way made this kind of process uneconomical or profitable. We have to remember that during the second world war Aluminum was a highly strategic resource so it would have been very important to the war effort to be mining it out of the minerals it was found in. So, I think that this mine site was perhaps at the end of or just after WW2 ended and the government was looking to restock its aluminum reserves, and a good thing too, because the Korea war happened not too long after WW2.
“Gly”: That definitely sounds very plausible! If that’s true this would be the very first aluminum mine I’ve ever documented.
Aluminum isn't produced that way. You're not going to run 1000 trials to find out aluminum isn't produced that way. Well, maybe _you_ would. 🤷♂️
Geesh 🤦♂️ just go with till you find the the absolute truth what mineral was being harvested at this site 😂 ✌️
With all those crushed, unused containers, it looks like the government was involved: order more than you need and destroy what you don't use, to keep anyone else from being able to use them!
Pretty dumb theory.... aluminum is produced through electrolysis
Always a pleasure hanging with you two❤
I had cgpt analyze that. This is what it said "The objects in the image are likely remnants of cyanide leaching tanks or cyanide canisters, used historically in the mining process to extract gold and silver from ore. The cylindrical shapes with holes and the remnants of white residue inside suggest they were used for this purpose. Cyanide leaching was a common technique, especially in the early 20th century, and these canisters or tanks were often left behind at abandoned mining sites."
@@zantar2482 This seems the most, if not the only, plausible explanation. It should be easy to analyze a sample to verify if there is silver or perhaps gold. Using cyanide in the extraction process seems extremely hazardous. Could it have been an illegal enterprise?
Bud I've been watching your vids for a long time. I love how your channel has grown. I'll gladly sit back in awe and see where you 2 will take us next. Safe travels and many more adventures!!!!!
Those things would make great rustic flower pots!
Another great explore, Stay safe as always. Love to you both xx
I expect nothing less but Gly Coolness/Awesomeness ( and beautiful Lauraness). You always deliver the best videos for me to devour.
Thanks Gly and Laura. ✌️
Well that turned out to be a fascinating little episode with lots of questions to answer. There were so many things I've never seen before in this episode. Thank you both very much, in a funny kind of way that is one of my favourites.
What a unique wall feature in the first mine…thank you
@00:12 I can't believe I never noticed the snake running into the mine! How amazing! Gotta be on a string lol
Gly, I've been impressed by your extensive knowledge of geology. But no one knows everything, and it requires wisdom to know when you need to ask questions. Your honesty is what makes this channel refreshingly different. That's what keeps us coming back. Thanks for keeping it real; and for trying to keep Laura safe!
Thanks for the Wednesday explore. The mines were interesting and the mysteries too.
Thank you for your time.
Looks like milled ore was places in those tubs and leached. If water was scarce, that method would be good for preserving a scarce resource. Just my guess.
I think the round things with holes in them are the boggy wheels of a flexible conveyor belt that are used in mining. They would fill with dust over time.
This is called adventure and safety first
Mine exploring is like eating at an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet. You can be exhausted and filthy and heading back home and see another adit and just have to check it out. As John Pinette would say "I'm stuffed...I couldn't eat another bite...oh, look, they brought out more egg rolls!"
Thank you.
Thats a bunch of number one scrap, left behind lol
shes a keeper
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Gly, is that how the Chinese ship BBQ pits, back in the day?....The scenery is just breathtaking.......Thanks................JB.
Thank you very much May the LORD bless you both.
OMG I love your old open. The first video I saw of you years ago had it and I subscribed the second I saw you scratch your butt. The snake following you in is killer. This is PURE comedy and art.
Very interesting mine adits and definitely the game operation! Also very interesting were the 5 hole steel bowls ,? 🤔 I would say a crucible of some kind . Just definitely weird ! Be safe see you Saturday!
My guest , the stepping those small drums with the five holes in them could be diacious earth
Hi Gly! I’m thinking those metal cups was cupels.The holes in the bottom was so the material could be heated and melted from a fire below. Probably some kind of odd old school stuff that’s unknown of today since we have much more sophisticated furnaces. Plus the mill being so close to where the cups are.
Maybe Roaster for Sulfied's to get the gold Ore!
Kaolinite. Open pit mines in long valley @ the volcano pyro flow.
That was my first thought when you said the material was light.
However, wouldn't that make them heavy? I assume they were leaching the lead and maybe mercury out of the ore!
Ask jeff Williams he knows 100% what's going on with this buckets.😂
Jeff william's wife put them there.
I would suspect that the two mines pre-existed the surface mining that occurred in the 40s and 50s... That's my best guess
I am still trying to figure out what those "cups" are for, I noticed that in that second pile that got dozed, the majority are empty while the pile closer to the mill had whatever that crusty material was in them (after watching your ENTIRE video, you saw that too lol). Looking at lots of pictures of forges and crucibles and can find none with components that match.
“Gly”: It is a mystery. Each one had fire clay in them and it was shaped towards the center hole. It does appear the fire clay was emptied out into a pile at the second site.
Kalonite at 3:20, one of those "don't touch anything" places because of the scaling of the mineral off the walls. I'm glad for you that the adet didn't go very far. (you always seem to "push the envelope".) Sometimes you make me tense in where you go. The scrapping of those metal cylinders was interesting. Yes, we are all now wondering how and what they were used for. An interesting explore. Thank you both.
Sell the cups as scrap iron
When you enter a mine that is posted and fenced are you trespassing or violating any laws?
So sometimes in rural areas especially near very old roads (might be modern now) you find piles and piles of either these cans, or steel canned food cans, rusted out. Some of these are old hobo camps and some are mine refuse from placer mining, or both. They didn't have laws in the past preventing the mine waste from simply being discarded wherever and they didn't want it piling up on site. This is especially common in old railroad communities where junk would get literally thrown from the train by mining companies. But sometimes they just left it on site when a claim was abandoned. Those metal containers probably contained mercury or some other mining supply.
Short but awesome mine explore. We got to see a lot in 23 minutes. Can’t wait for part 2 of last Saturday’s mine!!
Refractory cement in those and they seem to be forges. Could be flux for processs.
Ok--2 questions: what was the solid white stuff on the walls of the last adit you were in and what were they looking for--gold? Glad you are still having a good time with all this exploration. Never seen you so busy and happy, Gly. Glad to see it. What a difference you make, Laura! Another qustion. With all these really remote areas do you camp out or have a long slog back to your camper?
“Gly”: Millions of years ago Nevada had many volcanoes and geothermal hot springs which condensed colloidal gold into whitish looking deposits of porphyry rock and Kaolinite. Research “the geology of Goldfield Nevada” for a more detailed explanation. Yes, Laura is lots of fun and it’s even more fun exploring with someone who loves abandoned mines as much as I do. If the mines we’re documenting are less than 100 miles out then we will return to my RV that same day. After a long hard day of exploring it’s always good to get out of your dirty clothes and take a shower, especially after documenting a really dusty mine filled with mice, bat and pack rat droppings.
@@AbandonedandForgottenPlaces"After a long hard day of exploring......" you rascal 😂😂😉
@@AbandonedandForgottenPlaces sounds like you asked Jeff for that answer 😝 ✌️🤙
@@AbandonedandForgottenPlaces My friend Dan has a TH-cam channel and explores old mines in Nevada. He has researched Goldfield too. His Channel is called Ghost Town Wonders. He is a Civil Engineer and provides great info on the history of mines in Nevada.
I think you're probably right on with The Crucible idea and the holes may have been for injecting hot air would be about my best guess
Or maybe perhaps some kind of bone Ash cupel,surely the biggest thingys I've ever seen
New Name for this Site, Mystery Mountain Mine. Be baffled and amazed!
As long as it’s not asbestos. 👍🏼
Caustic leaching of kaolinite to extract the aluminum fraction as aluminum hydroxide is plausible. The economics of scale were so much different back then. But with absolute certainty they were not making aluminum metal. Aluminum oxide is very stable; much more stable than iron oxide. Aluminum metal has been produced by the Hall-Heroult process since the early 1900s.
This operation was probably a means of recovering alumina from kaolinite. Probably from WWII-era when there was a high demand for aluminum.
Is the mineral bauxite in that area? Bauxite and laterite are the common sources of aluminum-bearing ore.
Magnesium also burns really hot and it creates its own oxygen!
Looks like maybe the rollers for conveyer belt ,filled with solidified dust,
Eeee Godz! I have only heard that in "The Music Man" Great flick!
They might have broke up the tubs to remove the ore. It might have had some mineral remaining. Tailings were often run again 2-3 times as new techniques got more of the mineral out. Chloriders in the 1920's reworked lots of tailings.
Looked like you were going to the movies and picking your seat early.
ask Jeff Williams on the metal cups
or frank
Do you have any history on the mine, such as the commodity they were seeking? Perhaps it was a high grade silver prospect, did you observe any minerals other than kaolin?
Could the substance in steel pans have been bone ash? If so, maybe they were cupelling the silver out of high grade ore.
This is the first time I have seen your show. I like it. Cool discoveries.
Gly I used to think you were crazy but now I know you are 😂
kaolinite is an industrial mineral. You know those billions and billions of glossy colour catalogues and books. That's coated with "kaolinite". They process the kaolinite with dry and wet process.
As filler, the kaolinite is mixed with the cellulose fibers in wood pulp and as a coating; the kaolin is mixed with water, adhesives, and various additives and coated onto the surface of the paper. The coating makes the paper sheet smoother, brighter, glossier, more opaque, and most importantly, improves the printability.
It is frequently used in adhesives for paper to control the penetration into the paper. Kaolin is an important ingredient in ink, organic plastics, some cosmetics, and many other products where its very fine particle size, whiteness, chemical inertness, and absorption properties give it particular value
Those metal circles were lids to giant salt shakers.
Maybe they did some leeching through them?
The graveyard of metal cans sure was interesting, but I'm wondering how crumbly that first explore was especially with that giant piece that was separating from the wall at ground level. My curiosity would have been for you to lay your hand on it and see if it would crumble right away or if you'd have to exert some pressure on it to pull it down. I know you wouldn't actually do that, but Gly, what would have happened if you had? Just curious.
I've never seen anything like that before, is the most stupidest, stupidest, stupidest, statement anyone can 🥫 say. No one can 🥫 or will see everything in the universe. I've never seen a giraffe 🦒 swallow a 30 pound 💷 🍉 watermelon 🍉 either, have you? Now you know how stupid that saying is. 😭😒😋😳👌👍
Smelting pots used on the spot to cut costs.
What happened to Mr. M? Also love the videos hope one day you will come explore mines with me in idaho
My sister came within a second or two of being crushed in one of these old mines.
Interesting when the ground is "foofy".
🤣 😂 are you getting hungry Gly? never heard a packrat called "Plum & Juicy" now a chicken is another story 🤣 😂
This is my favorite intro.
The first tunnel has the same walls as genuine diamonds in Arkansas video I just watched.
Capel crucibles?
Hey you two , seems to me... stormy. These people were winning aluminium.?😝 do I get something?✌❤ 🤗🤗
Those pans are for sifting out their B plugs from the debris.
Back in the day, there was a free cup in every box of fruit loop breakfast cereal.
I don't fly drones so I really don't know but can you fly them inside a mine? I always thought it would be a good way to scout but I don't know how stable they are since I normally see they in the sky where a little turbulence isn't as much trouble.
These are ancient cake moulds from the birthday party assembly line peoples (archeology term). You can tell by the four candle spots 🕯️
If you burn sulphide gold ore ,Pyrite , the gold becomes free and then can be concentrated and smelted.
Bet you don’t use an air quality meter in your mine exploring.
Not sure why there's so much confusion those metal containers were the packaging for the explosives used to make the mine
UFO ashtray dump-out spot.
Probably like I mentioned in a video. Indian slavery and coding on pick ax. The Indian may have sawed it off bc not happy being forced miner's. Cups of clays mixed in with diamonds and more they were digging for. Could be they sold the mine and the new owner started to remove other owners code off pick ax. Could be the cups just brought dirt out to build a unique underground.
Soo..
I wanted to examine this because of the mystery cans.
You mentioned they are light and filled with "crucible material" ? Yes wtf
It did look familiar to me however.
Where I grew up there was old mines and camps of MANY purposes and sorts. SYLMAR California.
There was the "Old Tin Can House" probably made early 1900's.
It was made of similar filled cans as a material to replace brick. MAYBE that was a thing back then?
The bottom half of the structure was made with the cans filed with ? cement? OR? and the top had high beams and a corrugated ROOF. It had a giant FIRE PLACE made of stone.
When they crushed them with the bulldozer, was that how they got the minerals out of them?
Guess it’s inappropriate to do the “what’s in Gly’s shorts” with Laura co-hosting 🤷🏼♂️
Do you think they might be smelting Capells ?
I know the answer, ill tell you, hold on, the door bell just rang, let me go answer the door first...
always need to use caution with anything you find like that being so many years ago many extremely toxic methods have been used in mining operations .
Kaylanite is like a plaster Paris like mineral 😊. That packrat looked at Gly and said big and juicy too😂. What a great team effort again. Laura your a true natural. Ty both for another interesting miner s history lesson 😊
You didn’t show any dynamite .
I'm wondering if they are the remains of carbide lamps,or more apropriately carbide candles
Sorry to say this Gly because I’m older than you but I have no butt either 😅
Looks like big cupels for refining ore.
Many uses from ceramics to a cure for diarrhoea.
People back then were much larger than we are today, those metal "cups" are the tops of glass salt shakers. ;)
"Creepy".... heh heh heh NOT the terminology I'd use for that section, then again, I am given to prolific use of profanity. That's some FUBAR rock stability. No clue WTF the metal gizmos are. Reading comments ahead of me, I see a strong potential or two.
Such a shame that those miners were allowed to litter the countryside like that they should have been made to clean their crap up, not a care given to the animals that could be injured by their it’s someone else’s problem.🤬🤦♂️
NOPE!!!....NOPE!!!...NOPE!!!
Kaolin is the predominant ingredient in porcelain products, like sinks, toilet bowls and tanks, mass produced flower pots, china/dinner ware and high tension power switchgear insulators, regards
The giants that they had working in the mine just left the tops off of their salt and pepper shakers. 😂
Fire pots
belt drive thing
I suspect these lids are shlepping dirt out of the mine.
What is kalenite?
Could you not scale those walls?
I thought wheels also!j
To me, the white content being soft is left over slurry from spinning in the metal tubs, so probable use could be diamond mining. Theres modern examples online, so due to the small number of tunnels and work area, it was just a test site looking for some kind of gem.