Yeah these duels are dogshit garbage. It's pretty sad that the meta in game now is run away/exploit jump and that ppl like Savix who used to be respected pvp'ers now use this dumpsterfire as content.
Afer reading this comment .. I switched off .. the stupidity involved on he live side, and the YT side was astounding .. ty for this comment for NOT wasting ym actual life time ..
Gonna be honest on that first duel. I have no fucking clue how warlock is supposed to win that. Are they banking on the warrior running out of food? There are multiple shops that sell food. The warlock has created the first ever scenario where he loses the attrition game because he can’t buy food on the roof and he can’t replenish soul shards. The entire ending boils down to “warrior left house willingly”. Literally don’t see a way he loses if he just doesn’t walk out of the house.
@@xray-g4l Oh the irony... the warrior wins by default lol. If there is anywhere to LoS, the warlock literally cannot win. You must be REALLY fkn special, or a warrior who god dumpstered by a lock lol.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt you won't get a hit on the lock. They get in a more open area and wait for you to get close so they can fear. Warrior can't do shit against warlocks at 20.
@@mehsterSkeletor If you think Warlock wins in that scenario when all he has to do is just wait in the house for lock to come down and is able to los on all fears and corruption and you think "lock still wins" your retarded
Forgot about shobek, last I heard from him he was discounting Savix on his rogue saying he wouldn’t make it far. Then the dude eats dirt super early in the tournament LMAO
Ah so this is why I get random people screeching at me like I’m a fanboy of shobek, I use Bankai in a lot of my toon names and I get all this random shit from people hating on this guy.
My hope for these Mak'Goras - Blizzard doing a stealth nerf to Petri flasks with an error pop up going "Dishonorable petrification is not allowed during the Mak'Gora"
I was the warlock in the first clip. I genuinely didn't expect to win and more-so wanted to do it cuz I thought it'd be funny. Shobek was in half blues/full pots etc and I was in quest gear with full demo spec without any soul shards or healthstone. Every auto attack of his was like 35% of my hp. Sure it can be considered "cheese" but at the same time, it was virtually impossible for me to win.
well, gj, but the whole time I watched this, I was thinking how you had to go out of your way to pixel perfect learn those jumps so that you exploit that in a duel environment, with imo is kinda pathetic
I watched somebody get lambasted for dinging in the middle of a regular duel by one shotting a green mob during it(planed of course.) Standards have fallen. People are really getting cut throat over a game when their characters are on the line. Not their character, they're in game characters. Sacrificing a little real life character for some in-game character.
Being dirty in a makgora is scummy but not bannable (and it shouldnt be) but If you petri + alt f4 from a mak gora blizzard should perma ban you. That's not being dirty its abusing a bug, I get not banning people for saving their character from raids/dungeons but in a mak gora using a bug is fucked.
9:45 Is this not the very definition of cheese? It seems this kind of behavior has slowly inched into acceptable. I can hear a faint call in the background, it sounds like a jackal.
Griefing somebody once might be funny, but everybody knows the same joke isn't funny over and over. So why would they do it if it's not funny? They're not laughing at the act. They're laughing at the mental image of the tortured person. This kind of behavior, if focused on leads to predatory behavior. The kind that will land you in prison eventually.
How long was Soni in Japan for because it took me years to learn Japanese and I still dont completely know it I can read hirogana and katakana and some Kanji but I was there for 9 years. Its not like learning English because there is only 1 writing dialect in Japan there is 3 and depending on where you are at is how you use them. Like a restaurant will use katakana and Hirogana but if you are traveling all maps and signs are Kanji
Griefing is fun Savix no matter what you say. You're playing a 20 year old game you don't have the moral high ground you think that you do. You're wasting your time too. Go have fun and don't let old asian men tell you what to do.
Cool to see Savs commentary at the beginning of rogue v druid cuz i watched this before and savix was on point the rogue fucked the druid up out of form I guess it makes sense sav knows rogues tho xD
Not to mention he looks like he's 35 years old tryna look like a teenager with that hair, whilst roleplaying and co-opting Japanese culture. And I thought just his gameplay was cringe, yikes, you're a grown ass man sucking ass at a 20 year old video game speaking gibberish Japanese as a white person, the lack of self awareness is real
If this warlock could have pulled off that jump every single time without looking like they're trying to hump the wall I might have respected that. In my opinion this makes Seclude a trash player at best.
@@GiuseppeLombardo4 I'm just saying if you're going to exploit a strategy it's better to look like a pro at it. Then somebody that is really in love with the way this wall is making them feel as they slap their junk up against it.
@@stancil83does it matter if it worked? the fact that he wasn't good at it is yet another advantage for the warrior and yet he still lost handily because he's dogshit
God what a boring fight, dude just ran away the whole time on this weird roof thing. I get it, its in the game. But yikes actually doing it in a makgora.... sad
Uhh just gonna point this out. The lock was in full grey gear and had no healthstone, no soulshards. Shobek is fully twinked out warrior at lvl 20 that was able to hit the lock for 30% of his/her hp every swing. The fact shobek didn't just sit in the house and play attrition and still lost makes him a really trash pvper.
i remember the first time i saw a shobek video i was really drunk and i couldn't stop laughing at him making samurai noises and doing the accent, goddamn that gave me such a headache i was laughing so hard, what an absolute loser. lmao
Dude looks like a 35 year old roleplaying an 18 year old weeb with that hair, speaking fake japanese and co-opting Japanese culture, all the while sucking ass at a 20 year old game This is exactly the type of person Japanese people can't fucking stand and why they treat most white weebs like shit when they go to visit Japan, because they act like this with no respect at all for Japanese culture
literally one of the worst I've seen in these HC death videos, but then again it seems like most HC players are absolutely awful, no one good is playing that shit lol just streamers
This is some insane jumping skills from the warlock considering hes playing a human female (for those who don't know human females/ undead females are awful jumpers due to their lower contact area being smaller than other races)
@@kokainkalle comparing a bug to a feature is insane. the goldshire roof has always been climbable even now in retail its not a bug. The saronite bomb thing is a bug that got fixed
@@h.benali8304 oh yeah glitch jumping walls that wasnt meant to be jumped at is not bugs right? Just cause they kept it doesnt mean it was done on purpose. Why you think they fixed such things for WSG?
@@Zabzim Not true at all, ive seen people get banned on PVP servers for doing it so there goes your whole argument. Making a toon on a pvp server means you consent to pvp. but killing people on a roof is 100% againts tos.
@ you misunderstand, on a PvP server you can banned for grieffing by being unreachable but this is a hardcore server so you might as well save your breath as reports get ignored
@ you understand just because there’s no more real Gms to ban people doesn’t mean it’s not tos right ? Same thing with the gold sellers. Just because they don’t get banned doesn’t mean it’s not tos.
It's like you're talk shit as if your way to go about things is better or good or whatever. Really bad take. Good or bad, better or worse a lot of it is subjective.
Imagine spending 40mins watching 2 duels where ppl literally ran from eachother.....fuck I needa get a job.
Yeah these duels are dogshit garbage. It's pretty sad that the meta in game now is run away/exploit jump and that ppl like Savix who used to be respected pvp'ers now use this dumpsterfire as content.
Classic....boring asf... bugged asf ...
Afer reading this comment .. I switched off .. the stupidity involved on he live side, and the YT side was astounding .. ty for this comment for NOT wasting ym actual life time ..
Knowing the whole video is this duel saved me some time, thanks.
watching people duel in wow........ It's like, eating shit is more productive than that
Gonna be honest on that first duel. I have no fucking clue how warlock is supposed to win that. Are they banking on the warrior running out of food? There are multiple shops that sell food. The warlock has created the first ever scenario where he loses the attrition game because he can’t buy food on the roof and he can’t replenish soul shards. The entire ending boils down to “warrior left house willingly”. Literally don’t see a way he loses if he just doesn’t walk out of the house.
you must be special, warrior legit has nothing in his kit at level 20
@@xray-g4l Oh the irony... the warrior wins by default lol. If there is anywhere to LoS, the warlock literally cannot win. You must be REALLY fkn special, or a warrior who god dumpstered by a lock lol.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt you won't get a hit on the lock. They get in a more open area and wait for you to get close so they can fear. Warrior can't do shit against warlocks at 20.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt I'll log on my 20 Warlock and you log onto your 20 Warrior...message me when you're ready. You literally don't stand a chance.
@@mehsterSkeletor If you think Warlock wins in that scenario when all he has to do is just wait in the house for lock to come down and is able to los on all fears and corruption and you think "lock still wins" your retarded
Forgot about shobek, last I heard from him he was discounting Savix on his rogue saying he wouldn’t make it far. Then the dude eats dirt super early in the tournament LMAO
idk to me he messed up a million times in this duel, he had so many chances to win
can pretend to be Japanese but can't pretend to be good at the game
last time I watched him he was saying women are worthless after giving birth lol. weird guy
heard about the guy losing round 1 of the tourney he shit talked at, then later heard he cheated on his gf. not even surprised he seems weird as hell
Ah so this is why I get random people screeching at me like I’m a fanboy of shobek, I use Bankai in a lot of my toon names and I get all this random shit from people hating on this guy.
Man that Lock jumps up on that roof for a living. Been just jumping up there since 2004
I was never able to do it that smoothly back in the day xD During hallow's end it was a lot easier due to a pumpkin next to the mail box
So wholesome to see Savix and Soda in the same room
ok no more duels in front of lion pride inn needs to be some flat ass surface
yea its getting kind of cringe at this point but doing this type of duel is already stupid so i guess who cares
Goofy 19 warlock without instant corruption
not even 2/5 T.T
Hey Savix, just wanna say I think your content recently has been very good, thanks and keep it up! :)
Dont mess with the Rooftop warlocks
Fun fact: "Rooftop rabbits" is what cats where called in late/post WW2 Germany. This euphemism was used when eating cats.
It's not a trick or smart when you give you word and agree not to unboon before the fight ..then you break the agreement...That should be bannable
Never go against a guy who's been perfecting his jutsu on moonguard. Man's done those jumps a million times.
I wonder if he could hit the warlock through the wall/roof from the 2nd floor
could he z-axis the guy from an upper bedroom? maybe standing on one of the beds or tables?
My hope for these Mak'Goras - Blizzard doing a stealth nerf to Petri flasks with an error pop up going "Dishonorable petrification is not allowed during the Mak'Gora"
Warlock and warrior are always my main/alt. It’s nice watching a duel where I actually know exactly what’s going on lol
Bro I watched this live in the morning the other day I was fucking dying laughing guy that jumped on the roof was a rat 😂
11:54 is this 3 people reacting to each others reactions? Reactionception?
Second fight was a guy reacting to a guy reacting to a guy watching a duel
Aint played wow in years but it warms my soul to see Ronin Master aesthetic savix. Digging the facial hair dawg
That's the biggest drawback for male nightelfs is they just can't do jumps..
That Duel in the beginning showed me i will never PvP there... But does anyone know what the song is named that is playing while they duel??
I was the warlock in the first clip. I genuinely didn't expect to win and more-so wanted to do it cuz I thought it'd be funny. Shobek was in half blues/full pots etc and I was in quest gear with full demo spec without any soul shards or healthstone. Every auto attack of his was like 35% of my hp. Sure it can be considered "cheese" but at the same time, it was virtually impossible for me to win.
well, gj, but the whole time I watched this, I was thinking how you had to go out of your way to pixel perfect learn those jumps so that you exploit that in a duel environment, with imo is kinda pathetic
@@Uponn1 I already knew the jumps, didn't go out of my way to do anything. But regardless it's virtually the same thing as him line of sighting.
You lame as fuck.
trying to talk a cowards playstyle right... meh....lol
Gg wp, nelf male getting out jumped by a fem human 😊
that druid got his account perma banned lol
Is that actually true? Source?
@KyRivals pretty sure he was streaming when it happened, so you should be able to find the clip
@@officialdabaws5228yeah not finding it 🧢
@@KyRivals he was banned. it was a big deal a few days ago
@KyRivals I typed in "wow xkinger banned" and found a ton of stuff instantly
Need to send this clip to another streamer now, like payo or guzu that will react to savix reacting to soda reacting to ziqo reacting to a mak'gora...
I played 29 twink warrior in original wow. I used a really good 1H, + shield against the casters I knew were good just to have the interrupt.
Doug rekt u tho
Amazed showbeck even attempted that with a warlock. Just stay in the house with los bro.
Hell yeah man respect @37:23
Mokgora in peoples head is going toe to toe in battle. Real mokgoras, running inside the building. dead
I watched somebody get lambasted for dinging in the middle of a regular duel by one shotting a green mob during it(planed of course.) Standards have fallen. People are really getting cut throat over a game when their characters are on the line. Not their character, they're in game characters. Sacrificing a little real life character for some in-game character.
Sad thing is the dude is just abusing a 20 year old pile of garbage like he's special.... He's not, he's late to the party...
On Stitches EU HC there was SoD bow in the AH horde side.
Being dirty in a makgora is scummy but not bannable (and it shouldnt be)
but If you petri + alt f4 from a mak gora blizzard should perma ban you. That's not being dirty its abusing a bug, I get not banning people for saving their character from raids/dungeons but in a mak gora using a bug is fucked.
isn't it more dirty when streamers are geared tf out (cuz theyre streamers) with world buffs?...
The warlock wasn't great, but MY GOD that warrior sucked ass lol.
Man got feared 13 times, but didnt charge one time... WTF???
9:45 Is this not the very definition of cheese? It seems this kind of behavior has slowly inched into acceptable. I can hear a faint call in the background, it sounds like a jackal.
Man that warlock was crazy good, the warrior should have won but was being stupid and paid the price
I would just log of in the inn if he tried to cheese.
Griefing somebody once might be funny, but everybody knows the same joke isn't funny over and over. So why would they do it if it's not funny? They're not laughing at the act. They're laughing at the mental image of the tortured person. This kind of behavior, if focused on leads to predatory behavior. The kind that will land you in prison eventually.
cant believe im watching someone watch someone watch someone watch someone mak gora
this is soo lame, more lame than people rooftop camping on fps battle royals. it’s baffling the extent some people would do to win unfairly
Blizzard need to set some rules for makgora, is just so messed up so bad
Just ain't respectable. Smells ratty.
I’m bad and watching these guys I feel better about myself
You can actually report people for the griefing that druid did
How long was Soni in Japan for because it took me years to learn Japanese and I still dont completely know it I can read hirogana and katakana and some Kanji but I was there for 9 years. Its not like learning English because there is only 1 writing dialect in Japan there is 3 and depending on where you are at is how you use them. Like a restaurant will use katakana and Hirogana but if you are traveling all maps and signs are Kanji
I think you should do more pvp videos like the monk video two months ago. I really enjoyed that.
39:38
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What a rat haha
I thought that was my mouse causing the red bar, so annoying
great fight! that was cool to watch
tldr: Do not duel in/near buildings, it's a braindead move, this isn't TBC arena LoS fest
Maybe people should stop doing Mak'Goras where players can exploit things like this. Easy fix.
Griefing is fun Savix no matter what you say. You're playing a 20 year old game you don't have the moral high ground you think that you do. You're wasting your time too.
Go have fun and don't let old asian men tell you what to do.
Cool to see Savs commentary at the beginning of rogue v druid cuz i watched this before and savix was on point the rogue fucked the druid up out of form
I guess it makes sense sav knows rogues tho xD
Yeah 3min was enough, that "dule" was boring.
cheese of dueling bad gear people, while full blue dungeon gear, consums and scrolls vs a roof cheese, yet only the later is bad.... lol xd
Imagine actually dueling that trash and not just typing /forfeit
always see samurai with huge stone maces.
Warlock eas so bad 😂
You sure the warrior wasn’t the terrible one backpeddling most of the time and messing up a lot of things
gamers, what else could i say, this is something
LMAO i cannot take it. Lock earn that win.
isnt jumping on roof "illegal" in game tho? pretty sure is in the rules of the game
No
...... yes ok ok
What where did you hear this from
ive seen a few of this warriors duels, he hides in houses against casters and every one of them follows him in like bots lol bad players
Wait, a story about a 'rooftop griefer" on a Korean's channel... Just an observation...
average druid main in action there
rip.. once blizzard sees this no more fun jumping in classic.days are nummmmmbered:(
these arent new jumps, been in for 20 years lol blizz wont remove them just like the plethora of other janky ass shit in the game
holy shit that warrior at the beginning is bad
Not to mention he looks like he's 35 years old tryna look like a teenager with that hair, whilst roleplaying and co-opting Japanese culture. And I thought just his gameplay was cringe, yikes, you're a grown ass man sucking ass at a 20 year old video game speaking gibberish Japanese as a white person, the lack of self awareness is real
Long makgora concludes at 9:10 btw
that fear is so cheap as that roof BS...
Bro that was NOT GG lol!!!
Of all the times you wish blizz gave the meat hook skill...
If this warlock could have pulled off that jump every single time without looking like they're trying to hump the wall I might have respected that. In my opinion this makes Seclude a trash player at best.
if he's a trash player then what is Shobek? dude lost a duel he should never lose because he's garbage
@@GiuseppeLombardo4 I'm just saying if you're going to exploit a strategy it's better to look like a pro at it. Then somebody that is really in love with the way this wall is making them feel as they slap their junk up against it.
@@stancil83does it matter if it worked? the fact that he wasn't good at it is yet another advantage for the warrior and yet he still lost handily because he's dogshit
I liked first dual
scummy plays by the lock
God what a boring fight, dude just ran away the whole time on this weird roof thing. I get it, its in the game. But yikes actually doing it in a makgora.... sad
Uhh just gonna point this out. The lock was in full grey gear and had no healthstone, no soulshards. Shobek is fully twinked out warrior at lvl 20 that was able to hit the lock for 30% of his/her hp every swing. The fact shobek didn't just sit in the house and play attrition and still lost makes him a really trash pvper.
What a lame duel lel, lock was crap, warrior same, just stand back and wait for days, why try to jump , no ideea
Dude is so cringe with that fake Japanese
Is the rooftop griefer korean?
i remember the first time i saw a shobek video i was really drunk and i couldn't stop laughing at him making samurai noises and doing the accent, goddamn that gave me such a headache i was laughing so hard, what an absolute loser. lmao
Dude looks like a 35 year old roleplaying an 18 year old weeb with that hair, speaking fake japanese and co-opting Japanese culture, all the while sucking ass at a 20 year old game
This is exactly the type of person Japanese people can't fucking stand and why they treat most white weebs like shit when they go to visit Japan, because they act like this with no respect at all for Japanese culture
Shobek sucks.
literally one of the worst I've seen in these HC death videos, but then again it seems like most HC players are absolutely awful, no one good is playing that shit lol just streamers
Gaylock for duel....
Cringe classic
wtf are this gay duels xd
First tho.
it should be bannable to get on that roof
This is some insane jumping skills from the warlock considering hes playing a human female (for those who don't know human females/ undead females are awful jumpers due to their lower contact area being smaller than other races)
its not rly griefing its clever use of ingame mechanics
Blizzard dont agree look what happen with kungen and saronite bombs.
@@kokainkalle comparing a bug to a feature is insane. the goldshire roof has always been climbable even now in retail its not a bug. The saronite bomb thing is a bug that got fixed
@@h.benali8304 oh yeah glitch jumping walls that wasnt meant to be jumped at is not bugs right? Just cause they kept it doesnt mean it was done on purpose. Why you think they fixed such things for WSG?
@ you’d think they fix it after 20 years if the goldshire roof was a bug 🤣 its clearly an unintentional bug that was kept as a feature
Roof camping is against tos and should be a instant ban
Only in non consensual PvP this is consensual PvP you literally sign a disclaimer before you are allowed to even fight.
@@Zabzim Not true at all, ive seen people get banned on PVP servers for doing it so there goes your whole argument. Making a toon on a pvp server means you consent to pvp. but killing people on a roof is 100% againts tos.
@ you misunderstand, on a PvP server you can banned for grieffing by being unreachable but this is a hardcore server so you might as well save your breath as reports get ignored
@ you understand just because there’s no more real Gms to ban people doesn’t mean it’s not tos right ? Same thing with the gold sellers. Just because they don’t get banned doesn’t mean it’s not tos.
Shitters will always come up with some sort of excuse for why they're shit. You're no different.
So stupid 10 minute long duel😊
Bad take about griefers. Kinda stupid, feelsweirdman
It's like you're talk shit as if your way to go about things is better or good or whatever. Really bad take. Good or bad, better or worse a lot of it is subjective.
WoWFC
warlocks prob the most cringe player ive seen in my life