Remington Thunderbolt .22 LR Ammo Review - 7-Gun Test - Is It Crappy Ammo? You Might Be Surprised!
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- Quality control is always a concern when it comes to "inexpensive" .22 rimfire ammo. Is the Thunderbolt ammo worth $30 to $40 a box?
I sure miss the days of going to Kmart on Sunday morning and getting some 22lr and going to the creek and just being a boy and plinking.
Walmart here. Every payday some essentials and a box of ammo.
I have never had a problem with Remington or Winchester ammo for my 22's. I don't ever recall having a round that never fired. Thanks for sharing the fun. I recall when I could buy a brick of 500 for $7 or $8 and 9mm for $6 to $8. I miss those days.
you and me both!!!
I haven't tried the Remington. I purchased a 50 box of Winchester subs (they're everywhere in Australia), and I couldn't believe the performance. I was astounded. Out of my CZ 457
they grouped better than quite a few of the "boutique" rounds.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 over here the guys i know consider Winchester as the standard!! comparing price to performance and value Winchester beats the other American made ammo! (Seller and Bellot would be Europe's Winchester if you're curious!!) and to be fair this ain't the old Remington ammo either it's a new company the original Remington ammo went to complete shit in 1987 and was slowly trying to come back before they went bankrupt and got sold off!!
@@keithmoore5306 I'm not surprised that the Winchester .22's are your "go too" ammo.
I'm no expert and I could be totally wrong, but CCI seems to be the most popular, here, but Winchester is probably more available. It's what's in rural hardware stores.
Like I said, I've never tried Remington. I don't even know if I've seen Remington .22 lr. for sale, here. I'll keep my eyes open and grab a box if I see it.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 well CCI is our close second! fair warning though while i'm thinking of it if you ever come across some PMC rimfire be careful the last i had was lubed to the point it gummed up my semi auto to the point of stopping the bolt in mid cycle! you couldn't fire a 100 rounds of that stuff continuously for the lube!
Stopped being able to find it around 2019 or so, always liked it and can't say I've experienced the reliability issues others talk about. Good plinking ammo.
paul harrel and his 22 lr video is showing up in this test as well, always lube, clean and have a good condition firing pin and magazine to take out variables that cause issues if not the ammo and no dry fire even if manufacturer says you can like my sig 322, snap caps are cheap so keep using them
Great shooting mixup. I'm really inspired by your channel. Never miss your videos 🎉
All them different 22's and not one malfunction. I'm pleasantly surprised. I remember them Kmart days. My first gun safe I bought at Kmart. A Homak 8 Gun Double Door. I'd buy my Bulk Federal 22 high power there also.
Great video to go with my coffee!
I love this stuff, its definitely my favorite bulk .22 lr it's worked the best out of the ~6 boxes I've shot for multiple guns. Which each one being a different platform is great must say something about it.
I've heard a few people bash this stuff, but in my experience it's been good. Too bad you can't buy it for $20/brick anymore.
Winchester Wildcat and Remington Thunderbolt were my go-to in the late 80's and all through the 90's. I used Golden Bullets too, but they seemed to be hit or miss depending on the year.
I've got a big box of the golden bullets too, so far I haven't had any issues with it from any of my .22's, seems I got a good box. They certainly have been doing the trick for some groundhogs that dug a den under the garage.
My Grandfather and Uncle worked for Remington at Lake City. I got to tour the place when I was a kid. My Grandfather was a safety engineer, and there are a lot of safety measures at Lake City.
If there is a big R on the head stamp they are new priming compound. They are 100 percent reliable per Remington's video.
I have an old Savage .22/410 rifle/shotgun from the WWII era, the one some pilots carried. Aguila, CCI, Winchester...none group worth shooting in that old gun. But Thunderbolt does fine. Maybe it's the load similar to whatever was available when that gun was made.
I bought a brick of Thunderbolt some years ago and i had a lot and i mean A LOT of split casings.
On the other hand i bought several buckets of Golden Bullet and didn't have any issues.
Love the sound of a .22 rifle. And, i cant believe that Jennings! Ive never seen one that reliable.
Me either, and I have owned lots of "cheap" .22 pistols 😁
I bought a ton of that recently - no issues with the first 500 rounds through a Walter PPQ. Nice to see a classic 10/22 - mine is from 1977 also.
The missus and I would get this as our bulk 22 ammo from time to time. It ran in everything, but there were quite a few light strikes. It's definitely better than that abysmal Federal "match" white box garbage, but only by a little. The Thunderbolt bulk boxes have increased in cost in our area to the point that CCI Minimags have become our go-to 22 ammo now. Reliable and a lot cleaner. Another great video, sir!
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Nice outro. I have quite a bit of thunderbolt and its always treated me right. Great value
Great scenery, video and subject matter.
Another great video. It's funny I have people often telling me they can't fire 10 rounds of .22LR without having ammo failures. I just don't understand what they have going on, I shoot all the time and I never have an issue with .22LR. I even found some very old 22LR ammo in my uncles closet after he passed away, they had been there for 40 years I bet and was green. All of them fired without a hiccup.
I have one gun with a weak hammer spring. These are the only cartridges that work reliably in that gun. Many criticize Remington's cartridges, but nothing else works as reliably in that gun, at least not cci,geco,federal,norma,aguila,eley,sk.I recommend giving it a try, no one should avoid a particular brand "just because". Rimfire cartridges can be tricky sometimes
Thank you for making these videos. They're so entertaining and enjoyable, and informative!
Awesome! I appreciate the feedback and you just my day. Thank you!
I have two of those 1911 22s, One says Sig Sauer on it and the other is marked GSG . Both are made by GSG , they just put different names on them. Great shooters and easy too customize.
I keep telling myself to buy a TX22 but never get around to it. I’ve rented one before and me and the wife loved it.
Maybe I can drop a hint for Father’s Day 😁
I certainly hope you get a TX22 for Father's Day. Please let us all know what happens.
Last month me and my buddy shot the last of my Remington 22lr that I have had since the 80's. It was a little gummy, but it all worked. I wouldn't be surprised if it was purchased from k-mart.
Good shootin' by you and good ammo. Have that ammo also and a 10/22, and the Colt 22. Enjoy your videos.
Thanks! 👍😎
Great video and Great shootin' - Thanks!💯💥👍!
Thank you too!
Had to watch before I go to church, like that ammo and guns, thanks
Excellent. Thanks for taking us along!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a great selection of guns love your video's
Thank you Rick.
That looks like so much fun
Your videos are the best! This one really hit home for me. I I remember going to Kmart in Northern Kentucky as well back in the 90s with my grandpa and picking up that exact box for 15 bucks! I do got a question for you mixup how come you don’t beam down no more?
My problem with some other brands of remington ammo is the cases were fragile. When using the CMMG .22LR conversion kit. If the 25 round mag is loaded fully or mostly loaded to 25 rounds, the cartridge cases would bend during the feeding process resulting in failure to feed. Been awhile, so I do not remember exactly what remington loading it was. The mexican high velocity aguila ammo works 100%.
Your dedicated .22 AR style gun had no such problems. But your magazines do look similar the the CMMG mags. PSA 5.56 upper was used.
Back when I was learning to shoot the Remington thunderbolt or winchester wildcats was the most popular to shoot
And most cheapest too Right ?
I’ve never had any issues with Thunder Bolt ammo, bout 5 years ago those boxes were $39 buy one get one free at a local store can’t beat that
Oh an my dad always made me clean the gun aftet every 100 rds of lead ammo and i still do👍
Your father was very wise 👍😎
I was using it to sight in my red dot on my Ruger MkIV. and once I was sighted in I started shooting more of it to get used to the red dot and after about 100 rounds it leaded up my barrel and they started keyholing.
That Jennings surprised me. 👍😎
Shoots great in all 5 of my M&P 15-22's (3 pistols and 2 rifles)
Vista Outdoors acquired Remington ammunition back in 2020 i believe. Since then it seems their ammo has seen an improvement. Id take it over winchester 525 white box, had a dud every ten rounds, even tried it several time after 3 hard primee strikes and no bang!
Ray, As Always ,,,
Great Great video , Again!
Your Great , Thank you Fella’ , 👌🏻
Some beautiful weapons you have there 😍🇬🇧
For 22 ammo that's pretty damn cool
I used mostly remington yellow jackets in the 70s and 80s
Glad I stumbled upon this video
Very Cool guns!
Mixup did exactly the same in the 70's ,K-mart was the cheap place. BTW, I did an inflation calculation $7 brick in 1974 world be a little over $44 today. Let's think on that. My job in 74 paid $2 an hour. Good week to all .
I remember when the minimum wage was $2.10 in 1975 😟
Remington rimfire ammunition has always performed poorly in all my .22 chambered firearms. I’ve had best results with Federal & CCI rounds.
I always had good luck with that ammo.
Someone with the capability, PLEASE test the hardness of the lead in these and those crappy yellow box Winchester Super X ammo.
I've had serious leading problems with both in multiple guns.
i buy the fiocchi 40 grain subsonic hp.. works aweome in my bergara bmr.
Good ammo. All of the weapons liked it. Shaving cream. Nice touch.
Thunderdud is what I’ve always called it. Terrible stuff when I’ve used it, unless you want to practice malfunction drills.
I applaud the effort and yes they shoot a 4" group at 30 yards. But this stuff today is crap.
In my 22s the only 2 brands of ammo i use is CCI 1st choice Aguila 2nd and they run flawless. I did get a 500 box of wildcat dynapoint so far those are running good to but i shot only 100 . The 22s are keltek p17 , walther p22q, and and 2 winchester wildcat one 18in not supressor ready the other 16.5 threaded barrel.
The Ruger Wrangler is not a bad price. I should get one.
I bought cci back in the 80s I learned about wild cats n other bad ammo years ago
Yep, I think it's official: the days of lousy low cost Remington ammo is over. They've been improving ALL of their products.
Wonder how much Thunderbolt cost compared to CCI Blazer.
I tried a box of thunderbolt through my ruger wrangler and it leaded the barrel like crazy the bullets were coming apart in the barrel and just tumbling all over the target, no accuracy at all. I thought my barrel was messed up but I tried some cci and it did great no lead chunks in the barrel and pretty decent groups. So it had the be the ammo
How long ago did you try the Thunderbolt ammo? It appears that the quality of the ammo has improved recently.
@@mixup98 last summer
Looks like good stuff for plinking. .22 is hard to get right.
Nice
Fun vid. Thanks for putting in the work
I have enjoyed shotgun and revolver ammo from Remington but my 10/22 and my Beretta 950 refuse to feed Remington 22 ammo.
Greasy 💥
I have rarely ever had issues with any ammo brand. But remington has been a problem from 12 gauge shells to 22 ammo I would not recommend it if you can find another brand
Could you do Aquila Interceptors next, they are the fastest 40gr 22lr you can buy.
I will put the Aguila Interceptor ammo on my list. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@mixup98 more specificity the hollow points, I don’t think anybody has put them through a thorough reliability test.
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I have had terrible luck with winchester white box bulk ammo somewhere around 10% ftf wouldn't recommend to use really and it didnt matter what it was shot in rifle or handgun.🤨 just saying.
I know my ppk/s did not like thunderbolt. It prefers stingers.
You
must of gotten a good box.....or things have improved in remington ammo QC,,cause it never worked good in my semi 22s
The best way to start the day---with mix up
Thank you John....you just made my day!
Funny you should mention K-Mart! That is exactly where we (me, my brother, all our buddies ect) picked up that same stuff! $0.35/box of 50, $3.00 for a brick! Of course that was back in the early 70's.
I appreciate your testing of this ammo, it seems that you had good luck with it! I dont seem to have too much luck with it.
I prefer Aguila ammo for my rimfire weapons. Remington 510, Ruger 10-22, Taurus 922 & Taurus TX-22. The Aguila ammo is far more consistently reliable in my testing. Also, it's availability during the plandemic shined brightly for alot of us here locally!
Living my best La Vida Loca here in south eastern Arizona.
Ive had pretty good luck with Aguila 22.
Can confirm. Aguila is my favourite too!
I totally agree with your comment regarding the vastly superior consistency of Aguila 0.22 ammo vs. the R. ThunderboIts. I have been a dedicated small bore shooter for 60 years and from my first box out of my first brick of Aguila I have seen it outperform both my long held and treasured old stock match ammo of every description and box after box of the very same but recently bought match ammo (except batch numbers of course!) and almost all their newer variations of both long and long rifle and subsonics and supersonics. I am no longer surprised by the Aguila's 3/8" groups at 40 and 50 yds and seldom see any Aguila group greater than 0.5 - 0.6" at 50 yds (including the first of day cold barrel group). My goto is a Savage Mk II FVSR, rail mounted 3-12x air rifle scope, original plastic stock that I painstakingly shaved to float the barrel. The Accutrigger is dialed ALL the way down (and then some!) to 2.1 lbs. Day-in, day-out, the Mk II fed with Aguila Eley Prime 0.22 long rifle 40 gr subsonic solid point, very seldom costs me more than just one small black round dot patch on a Shoot n See at either 40 or 50 yds. In my experience it is the finest 0.22 ammo I have ever bought and its low price just makes me smile!
@@dirkbergstrom9751 That is a fantastic testimony for Aguila's consistency & accuracy Amigo!
Yup we didn't have a Walmart here back in the day
If a person was caught short during the last ammo shortage, everyone should be stocking up now. Lot's of ammo available for 5¢ to 6¢ per round. Won't get any cheaper than that.
Yep. This is probably the best time we've seen and will see. Now that Trump has been (illegally) convicted, that perceived instability will reverberate throughout the system and it will eventually catch up. If we lose this upcoming election we're headed in North Korea territory. It will be very ugly. Just make sure you have all the food and OTC meds you need first before ammo!
Is KMart still in business? Haven't seen one of those in over 30-years.
My thunderbolt ammo is good for when i want to do failure drills! Looks like theyve improved the quality.
Years ago I had plenty of duds in Thunderbolt ammo. They've really stepped up their game recently. Great video as always. Thank you .🤠
Ive had about 5% duds in Thunderbolt since i was a kid.
I had issues way back with their Golden bullet ammo.
@@Miohunter444 So did I. Later versions have been better for me at least.
I guess federal took their crap ammo machinery off rems hands😂😂😂 nothing but squibs in a box of 300
I’m glad they’re making their Thunderbolt ammo better because I had given up on them.
Remington 22 thunderbolts are the ammo of my childhood
Unfortunately the 22 of old are not the ammo we shoot today, today they are crap. Low powder charges, flyers, can hear the difference while shooting.
@scott3708 that is definitely true within the past 10 years or so but personally I haven't bought any since they recently became a new company my go to cheap bulk has been CCI blazer the one's in the individual packages there some of the cleanest best running cheapies for me
Ive had terrible luck with Remington ammo. Not the standard in my eyes.
Try the golden bullet
@@SK-2illAgree There Golden Bullet Is So Much Better
The only Remington ammo I use is the 22LR Yellow Jacket. I avoid the rest of their loaded ammo like the plague. But I do use their 303 & 8mm projectiles for reloading.
@@donwyoming1936 are Yellowjackets still available?
Same. I gave up on Remington a few years ago for the same reason. Also, ran very dirty, even for .22LR. Seems like this box ran okay for Mixup. I just buy CCI Mini-mags and never have an issue.
WOW, MixUp after the FUN is over you are in for a long gun cleaning session. That makes me appreciate you and your videos even MORE!
I got a sleeve of 100 Remington 22LR for $0.99 from K-mart in the 1980s.
The good Ole days
Thank you for the comment. I have been telling people the same thing, and they don't believe me.
I still have a few 50rd boxes of Yellow Jackets I bought at Kmart back in 1979 for $1.75 ea. That was highway robbery for 22LR!
How many guns do you have...that would be awesome to shoot different guns all the time... or do you borrow or does gun stores let you advertise..that would be great too.. thanks for the videos...
Went through a Project Appleseed class using Thunderbolt, no issues whatsoever, accurate and dependable.
I still have a ton of this ammo from the late 80s and early 90s… it still fires with very few problems (no more problems than for .22 LR bought more recently). Each year before hunting season I’d pick up a new brick for squirrel season. I usually never shot all 500 rounds in a year. It’s from all sorts of lot numbers and years dumped into an old wooden ammo crate/box. After high school I joined the Army for 20 years and only shot it sometimes when I came home for a week or two each year. After I retired from the Army (2013), I went home and found it… I shot most of it now, but still have some left.
I’m glad Remington stepped up their game in the rimfire ammunition department.
Eh; not all of their 22lr catalog
Trust me they didn’t. Cheap junk ammunition is not ever good.
Remington went bankrupt and were bought out by Federal/CCI. Ever since they took over, Remington rimfire has been noticeably better. 10-15 years ago, Golden Bullets were really bad.
Golden Bullets were pretty horrible for a long time, but ever since the parent company of Federal/CCI bought Remington Ammunition, they've increased the QC which is a good thing.
Good Sunday morning everyone. Appreciate the video and the 💥💪 Remember everyone Jesus Christ in our hearts is the answer ✝️🙏
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I just picked up one of the 500 round bulk packs this week. Thanks for doing the testing for me. I have heard that Remington has vastly improved the quality of their .22 rimfire ammo, especially the Golden Bullets.
That’s good. The golden bullet was choking on everything I shot.
@@jamesmarkov9570i have a couple buckets of them so far a few hundred rounds and they are 100%
I use this ammo all the time and have no complaints with it. Runs in all my semis
I was sure glad to see this test today. Remington Thunderbolt has been my go-to ammo for many decades ever since I got my first .22 rifle. It is also the most accurate 22 rifle that I have so with a 3 to 9 power scope on it it's the one I use to test different brands of ammo and the Thunderbolt always groups tighter than any other brand that I've shot. My tests are always on a bench at 50 yards so I was glad to see that you were getting the same results as I do on your accuracy test. It lets me know I must be doing something right.
I just bought a bunch of this and am looking for some more.
I have been shooting Thunderbolts for decades and have never had any large scale issues. The worst crap I've ever bought is Federal bulk ammo. As I use 22lr for training purposes as it's cheap in a M&P 22 and M&P 15-22 I've found the Federal bulk crap good for failure drills as it never fails to delivers. LOL
The Federal blue box is the worst. The federal automatch on the other hand isn't bad.
I've always put remington and winchester super x solids through my old cooey 600s. Only get the odd misfire but just chamber the next and they go bang.
I love these, I got boxes & boxes when Walmart sold them for $18 per brick/500rnd. I just saved em.
CCI is what I like to find on sale. They are located in Idaho, where I reside. I like to support our local industry. The jobs that we preserve are our neighbors's.
I REMEMBER WHEN A BRICK WAS $5 & GOT A FREE MUG WITH EVERY PURCHASE + AN EXTRA 100 ROUNDS IN THE MUG, I STILL HAVE THE WHOLE SET OF MUGS & USE THEM EVERY DAY.
It's the only .22lr. that runs reliable in my Sig/ GSG 1911 for some reason ....
Loved the review!
I liked your selection of the 10-22; mine is a 1976, bicentennial edition. These things eat everything and never fail to go bang!
I'm really jealous of that SW M&P though.😊
I have never tried Thunderbolt in my Beretta Bobcat, may need to grab a box and check it out.
Thanks for the video review. I will try some Remington Thunderbolt 22. I've been shooting mostly CCI & Aguila out of my Marlin 60 and Taurus TX22.
Hey Mixup, do you like your guns? ha ha - good to see that Remington shooting well. We sure went through a period of quality issues with .22LR... not just Remington - most all of the brands seemed to suffer.
Awesome cool video thumbs up. When I was 13 or 14 my nephew and I used to buy boxes of 22 LR at the local hardware store for .99 cents a box. We would go out on the railroad tracks and shoot most of the day. Can you imagine that in today's world? lol, 13-year-old kids bought 22 shots took out rifles, and started practicing. Kids today could not do that must less buy the Ammon on their own without an adult present, lol. I like 22 guns of all kinds.
Thunderbolt is dirty ammo. With that said, it is also good dependable ammo for me.
Not very accurate when compared to other ammo like CCI but great for plinking.
I really like the Aguila ammo these days. The high velocity seems to be a tad bit more reliable than the standard and both can be found for 3 something a box. Of course CCI is always good but a little more expensive.
I stopped using Remington Thunderbolt ammunition because it severely lead fouls the barrel in one of my pistols. Didn't have any other problems with it.