Wahoo Kickr Bike 1 YEAR review | Tested to the LIMIT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- My Wahoo Kickr is nearly a year old so here's my assessment of it over the last 12 months. I've used Zwift, TrainerRoad and Sufferfest and gone from a complete newbie to a full on cyclist in that time.
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You obviously killed that thing way quicker than average...mission accomplished! 👍😂
I wish I could mentally justify the tremendous cost enough to get one. I just can’t. I don’t understand why the world of cycling is so ridiculously expensive in general. $12k super bikes? $3k static trainers? $300 padded shorts? It’s so stupid....
You could just use a bike and fluid trainer with a power meter or power estimate.
It's not really the world of cycling. It's the social media world of cycling. Would love to see a channel by and for us mortals. it's always about the latest and best. But I think truth is, there's just so many undisclosed sponsorships and free stuff from the companies.
I hear ya. I have 2 bikes and a smart trainer. Kinda spoiled. Total cost over the years approaching 20k. But, in the last 4 years I have just been buying consumables to keep everything running. Financially much easier to handle.
It isn't much over 3 years.
Get a wattbike atom and you've instantly mentally reduced the price by a 1/3rd - and you most likely won't have to send it back because it breaks. They deliver them assembled too. Remember that the only guy on the internet who really reviews trainers and smart bikes puts out a 3 digit sprint and is more worried about whether the shifters are like "real" shifters and pointless features like that, than how robust the trainer is. Otherwise, I think, DC rainmaker's "there's no clear winner, theses are all good" would be very different. Here we have this review that shows it can't really stand up to just a few hundred watts more sprint without falling to pieces - and it's basically falling to pieces from the get go as far as the points of adjustment. The seatpost doesn't even stay up. Last time I had a bike where the seat post wouldn't stay up it was a kids bike costing around £50. It's laughably poor and it's only really Mark's clear new enjoyment of cycling that makes him overlook just how much it sucks to say it's great. What's great, I'd suggest, is simply the bliss chemicals surging around his blood after he's used it not because it's actually a sold, well designed and built product worth its £3.5k asking price. Oh and I'd guess that wahoo's replacement policy has stymied his actual realisation that it's not very good (plus the thing where, I get it a 6'6" guy who is used to being the tallest and heaviest guy in the room thinks that he's an extra special use case who is stronger than the bike will typically face - but, not really - a 4 digit 1xxx watt sprint is not that. It should be 'meh' for these smart bikes and trainers. They're supposed to be built for double that - and there are a fair number of people training on bikes that put out these big numbers. Ask them, what trainers are they using and, more importantly, how often does the team need to junk them and get new ones. That'll tell you which products are worth your money if you don't have a team budget that can just replace stuff if it breaks. It seems clear to me that either wahoo have factored in constant replacement into the asking price (in which case it's vastly overpriced) or that they'll inevitably go out of business because no company can keep sending out replacement £3.5k products for free can they? Excepting, I guess, that they're probably not really selling huge amounts of them in the first place, but unless the pricing model has huge margins they've got to be making a loss on them - and you're not supposed to make a loss on your flagship product are you? This is supposed to be the trainer that we all aspire to own when we buy a kickr core, not just a more expensive piece of junk that breaks after a year.
And the odd thing is, things like the kickr snap, which was perhaps 2x overpriced at the time (cheap as chips now, but no one should buy one) did feel really robust and tank like compared with other trainers. If you started on a dumb trainer from Halfords from Elite they really felt like they'd break. I remember the plastic melting on mine when I hit about 25mph because of the heat from the flywheel. It felt like a toy. By comparison the kickr snap (which, unfortunately I bought shortly before the kickr core came out) really felt like a tank. It sucks in pretty much every way that a wheel on trainer sucks, but you'd never expect to break it by using it. Where did the company who designed that go?
Great review. Thank you! I'm glad Wahoo is replacing bikes and getting the failed units back. This will hopefully lead to better design in future versions for the critical failures. Always a gamble with version 1.
I spoke to Wahoo yesterday (7/25/2022) and they acknowledged something in development but also that it would be some time before v2.0 ("don't hold your breath" he said).
Great hands-on review! Actually love the home garage. It’s authentic and lends to the believability / credibility. If things are too GUCCI, you tend to question the independence of the TH-camr
In wish I got enough freebies for people to question my independence 😂😂😂
An excellent and fair review Mark. I bought my kickr bike partly off the back of your very first video on it and don’t regret it at all.
I really love all the kit however, it looks like cycling inside with wahoo is more expensive than cycling outside! I have a custom made road bike with Ultegra kit that cost me $2000 6 years ago. I got a great deal. Looking at the kit ( wahoo kickr, wahoo Mat, wahoo headwind, wahoo rockr) we are looking at near $4000! And I am not including any clothing, TV, zwift or other apps, heart rate monitor... I have settled for a very humble Saris wheel on smart trainer that kicks my ass when I climb on Zwift. But I appreciate seeing all the cool gearboit there. Thanks for the great videos.
but you did not ge run over
Excellent commentary, Mark. Rational, well thought out and presented reviews are a rarity.
I hacked the switches on the inside of the brake hoods. Peel the hood back from the bar and slip something like a beer bottle cap in there to keep the buttons from being pressed (I crafted something a bit more elegant, but you get the idea). Roll the hoods back in place and no more accidental dropping out of ERG mode.
Thanks for the review. I'll be sure to avoid the FB group.
I had a Wattbike Atom for 12 months and was very happy with it, except for the noise it made and the horrible shifter buttons that often got stuck - sold it last October on ebay for the same price that I bought it for (thanks Covid!) and bought a Kickr bike. Mine was broken right out of the box (something was not connected at the back and it would tilt forwards on its own), had a replacement bike 2 weeks later and since last October no problems. Customer services was great - no complaints there. The saddle I changed on day one and just today I double-wrapped the handlebar for more comfort.
In general I am really happy with it and do not regret my purchase but additional to the points you mentioned I don't understand why a 3k bike has only a single sided power meter (Atom has dual and is about half the price) and no cycling dynamics for working on your pedalling efficiency! I could put my favero assioma pedals on it but do not want to swap between bikes.
Using Sufferfest regularly I initially found the shifter side buttons annoying however quickly got used to them and now even appreciate them as a kind of "Panic button" when in a hard workout in ERG mode and running out of power having to quickly change back to level mode 🤣
In the new update in RGT cycling they have the side button now assigned to camera mode (looking back) which I find really useful. Also they display the current gear numbers on screen which saves me from looking down to the awkward positioned display on the bike. Fulgaz should really do the same - showing numbers on screen instead of this small weird gear symbol.
On the Kickr bike overall - same view here after using it for 6 months - it is still the best Smart trainer out there and I would absolutely buy it again!
@@MarkLewisfitness What difference in power - between garmin pedals and the Kickr bike - are you noticing?
Great video, you sum it up perfectly. Mine broke today and I have no intention of looking elsewhere. I love this bike. For me, I have a power supply with a blinking green light when plugged into the Kickr bike and it gets no power at all... I have read that this will be a replacement bike. I am slightly concerned that this appears to be a common fault yet it still happens. My bike is only 2 months old...
You can adjust the forward and backwards leaver tension. There is an official Wahoo guide, but is basically removing the leaver, turning it and putting back on the splines. You can really clamp them tight. And yes had to leave that FB after 24hrs!
I am echoing what most have said already, excellent review! What I enjoyed mostly is your delivery with humour intended or not. Good luck with the new unit.
Yep, that’s a fair vid and review of the Kickr bike. Only gripe I had with mine was that nasty thin bar tape they use. SO much better with some proper tape fitted. And the saddle of course but, as you say, everyone is gonna change that anyway. Keep the vids coming - they help me keep me motivated on my own TR fitness journey. And more vids with Nixon please, he’s adorable. 😊
I've had not as many problems as you but wahoo have been exceptionally good with customers services, it's stated ft with my Kickr and Climb which I had a warranty replacement for both so sold these and invested in the Bike but had the power brick issue has it's in my garage which is cold most of the time, so bubble wrapped it and it's been good ever since also the stem quick release tried what they suggested but didn't work so they sent out a bolt to use also got a complementary ticker for my troubles. Happy that I got one as taking the bike on and off the Kickr Wasa faff. 👍
@@MarkLewisfitness Wahoo told me to take it in the house over night when not in use to keep it warm. It's done the trick.
You maybe getting top quality customer service - I’m certainly not. Bike died 4 weeks ago and still waiting a replacement. They shipped the return boxes in 2 days but then took 10 days to collect it. Was told they would ship the replacement as soon as the courier collected it and that was two weeks ago and still not been shipped.
I have it. Had to send faulty parts back for replacements, but I don’t have that huge frame and arms to tear it apart! 😂
I started with just the wahoo app and watched spin classes on TH-cam. I could only do an hour or so.
With Zwift I can do 3 hour rides without getting bored.
Hi Mark, thanks so much for compiling this video. I had ordered my bike before yours had developed those nasty noises and whilst awaiting delivery thought what the hell have I done ! I am in my fifties have not ridden a bike since I was a teenager and have been on this thing five days a week for six weeks now and love it. I am seriously considering buying an outside bike as a result of this experience. I just hope I do not have issues as I do not relish sending this thing back. It is very heartening to hear Wahoo have such good customer service should I have problems . At this stage of the game I would definitely recommend this bike along with Zwift to anyone. Let’s just hope my Wahoo Kicker Bike is an above average one 😄
@@MarkLewisfitness I agree, it would be nice to know the percentage of bikes being sent back, I sincerely hope it is a relatively small number as it is a great product and would not want it turning into a financial burden for Wahoo. In my case a below average (for now) rider on a hopefully above average bike will provide for lots more fun and fitness 😄
First 20 seconds into this video “I like this bloke!” Subscribed.
Sorta impressed with Wahoo sending out new bikes all the time. That said, it's too bad the trainer isn't more user-serviceable. A drivetrain hasn't been yet designed that is impervious to wear and won't eventually need to swap out parts. All good suggestions but I'll stick with my old Cannondale Caad10/Kickr (which rotates up to lean against the wall when not in use!) until Wahoo comes out with a new model that's more structurally sound and incorporating some of the improvements mentioned here.
Spot on Mike, I need to replace my road bike chain every 1500 miles or so, even when cleaning the drive chain every week. Then there's freehub pawls etc. I'm not sure I would trust wahoo's long term test regime on products pre launch , it's seems like the battle between sales and product testing was way too lopsided for good outcomes.
Great post, I just got mine from local bike ship 3 weeks ago and loving it. Glad you mentioned the resonance issue, I was wondering if that was normal but sounds like it is. Now looking into rocker plates for a bit more comfort and realism... Also love your mantra ‘Better then Average’. Keep up the good work, great videos..
That clunking is the belt slipping a tooth, I’ve had it on my kickr sprinting but it’s easy to maintain the kickr and given it’s a refined product that’s been around nearly 10 years, support is there if you need to know anything.
Wahoo can teach the world about what customer service really means, and you final thoughts are spot on.
Great vid 👍
@@MarkLewisfitness I imagine there will be a tension pulley as per the Kickr, with all the power you put through it they will get very hot and start to expand. If the belt has stretched at all 💪, then they will be out of tolerance and the slip will happen.
Does it have a way for you tension the belt yourself?
The bike will be refurbished and sold as a refurbished item through their website it’s a robust piece of kit clearly and there will be plenty of customer (me) desperate to purchase a warranted refurbished unit given the customer service levels.
@@MarkLewisfitness There is an adjustment. Drive side cover over the axle is hinged at the top with a small catch at the bottom. Pop it open and you'll see the adjusting bolt. Sad to say I learned this doing surgery on my bike, thanks to the freight people shipping the bike upside down.
I used Supergrip Carbon and Alloy Assembly Compound on the seat post and handle bar post. It allows us to switch between riders and stopped all settling.
Am 100kg. Bike made the same banging noise and the electrics went after 2 weeks of use. Wahoo great sent me new bike. Am a little worried it will happen again though as like you can hit well over 1000w and am heavy. Alll good so far after 6 months fingers crossed
Great content once again:) Did concider getting a wahoo bike for a long time, but since im close to the max on both weight and height(198cm &115kg) i went for the Stages Bike. Rock solig. love it.. Keep up the good work !
Nice critique. Agree 100% about saddle and pedals etc. First thing I did was changed those so was glad it wasn't pricey items they'd used.
The argument for most people is that they would rather buy something like a KIKR smart trainer and a really nice road bike and have the option to take said bike outside in the summer for cheaper/similar price, rather than being restricted to indoors by going with the KIKR BIKE.
All in all though brilliant overview for the bike if people are truly dedicated to indoor riding.
Been there, done that and then bought a Kickr bike. Waaay less hassle than having an outdoor bike on a turbo and a much better experience with no noisy drivetrain.
@@johndavie3924 I've had zero hassle with my road bike on the Kickr trainer. $3500 is a bit rich for just an indoor trainer that apparently is already having lots of issues. And at over 100 lbs to ship, talk about a hassle. NO thanks!
Appreciate the review! I bought my bike last year and experienced a similar failure after a couple months of use. Likewise I am tall but not as not as powerful as you (can't quite reach 1000 watts). Customer service was very helpful. Hoping the replacement bike lasts longer than the first. Will be following you to see how your second bike holds up.
These are awesome rollers, and the rocker design is ingenious
Bought a Kickr Bike recently and started watching your videos off the back of that, great content, keep up the good work!
As another tall, large, high wattage fellow who has owned one for nearly a year, I think your review is fair and reasonable. Mine hasn't failed thankfully. The resonance at certain cadence/power combinations is probably my largest downside. I don't regret my purchase.
Hello. I've never ridden a bike before but I'm interested in getting this as a starter. First I wanna shred some fat and also get fit for when I get on the road. Any tips for me?
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I stupidly forgot the login password. I would love any tips you can offer me!
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@Braylon Emanuel I really appreciate your reply. I found the site thru google and im in the hacking process now.
Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Braylon Emanuel it worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much you saved my account!
You make me happy Mark and it's fun too
What a power you have...
So nice to see and great for brand of course 🥳
Belle journée à toi
I doubted for a long time between a kickr bike or the SB20 stages bike. Since I am not the lightest, I opted for the solid Stagesbike. Don't regret it for a second.
Rock solid with a weight of 65 kg in total and a flywheel of 17 kg. There ar also issues on the the facebook page but most of them are problems with the stages app and connection.
Possibly an option if your replacement bike gives up.
On point review Mark 👌 - I’ve loved my WattBike Atom Gen 1 - and your experience (and that of others on the facebook page you mention) has convinced me to stick with WattBike and upgrade to the Gen 2. 2 year warrantee and excellent customer service - they come you your house to service it / fix any issues (only x1 issue and x1 service in 2.5 years). Also its got more weight and stability - would be better for your size and power.
Do you feel like you lose much without the up/down motion and the better gear shifting on the wahoo bike compared to the atom? Love your videos btw BRWM!
Very, very even handed review Mark. I hope Wahoo not.only replace your bike for a mark (sorry) 2 version but also pay you for your deeply analytical, practical and fair long term product review and fault mitigation suggestions which seem sensible to me.
Cor blimey!! Parts of the viewing were like watching Joe Bugner going 15 rouunds .... the fact that it took a year to break is actually probably a positive giving the treatment it recieved!
Haven't had a single problem with mine except for a broken quick release. Their customer service is second to none and they provided me with a replacement very swiftly.
Very zwiftly
Thanks for the vdo. My point of view is the following.
Personally I chose as home trainer the Stages bike SB20. It does not simulate the ascent nor the descent, it is for me a minus for the simulation but a plus for the stability and the reliability. The body of the bike is the same as the fitness bikes from Stages bikes which have been improved many times.
It is extremely easy to adjust to your body shape in all directions. I am sure I made the right choice.
Sporty greetings
Thanks for the review - ordrered one for keeping legs in shape during winter!
A tall big guy is reviewing cardio stuff? Thank God - finally someone i feel connected to. Great content!
And I never saying “killing my gainzzzzz” 😂
Once a month wipe down! After every ride mate. Had the bike for several years now, love it, zero issues (though I took a year off because of tendon issues, soccer not cycling related).
Thanks for the review! I am also rather heavy (108 kg) and got a Kickr bike last November. I initially had some doubts about the robustness and wanted to go for the Stage alternative but still bought the kickr bike since it was the only one in stock. Very happy with my kickr so fare! Just had to change the saddle because I had some pain in the tailbone and I sometimes experience small cracking noises when sprinting.
I would greatly appreciate road bike tips or links for heavy ridders. I recently replaced the wheels of my road bike and struggled to find robust ones. When you are heavy, you are obviously less keen on saving a few grams than on getting robust and reliable parts.
Mark your so Strong.... You need a static Trainer specifically designed for you . Your in a different league to us mere mortals . Hope your next Trainer has some upgraded mods . Wahoo should put you on there payroll for your honest reviews 👍
welcome to the. 2+ kickr bike club, hope they are sending you a kickr headwind as compensation and hope it’s not a month plus for a new one and one of those bottom bolts isnt machined
in so tight you have to drill it out 😀
Mine lasted a week, control box packed in, same situ sent me the box and arranged collection etc, back it went to Netherlands and fair play they replaced mine too within a week of collecting that faulty one.
Excellent review, warts and all. I'm 65 kg, 65 years old, so hopefully I can't break it. ;-) Have been running a Kickr Core for 2 years (love it), and considering the big upgrade ....
Holy crap! 47mins in zone 5 for an hour of training is crazy. Monster session!
Tell me about it 😄
Should be on the tele mate. Knowledgeable with a great presentation style.
My advise: Check the Stages SB20... cons: no climb... pros: rock solid
Would also recommend a Wattbike, they've been around a while and used by BC
Again a good video - Thanks - If they keep up the customer support like that, you will be getting a new bike every year 😉 Joking - Hopefully they have solved or will be be solving the problem(s) in the production of new bikes.
You need a wattbike atom. They are strong and brilliant to use.
Atoms are built like tanks, though their adjustability isn't great I'll admit.
I’ve an atom -it has its pros and cons but reliability is excellent but the gears are a pit of a pain and the lag on zwift races isn’t great with it
@@brody5211 yes your absolutely right. Up until the recent software update the bike kept spinning out when using erg. It’s been ok since. 🤞🏻
I was going to get a way bike atom but they just raised the prices the last 2 days it was 2400 I think now is the same as this. I might get the wahoo instead since they aren't out of stock
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Solid performance #s with those huge levers for limbs!
Very strange to me that you still recommend this bike with all the downside you are mentioning. Have you tried others? All the recriminations you have are nonexistent on the Stage Bike SB20. I have 5000km on mine and still rock solid. Not your weight tho, I started at 84kg, now below 80kg. I would admit that in term of look the Kicker Bike is awesome and the SB20 a bit ordinary, but it sounds like only advantage so far. I don’t regret the investment. Keep up the good work, enjoy your posts!
Seeing lots of mentions of the SB200 bike here, while the bike is solid if you plan on using Erg mode look elsewhere.
I’ve got the WFBIKE3 model coming this week. Honestly can’t wait, been putting it off since I came across it in 2020. I’m upgrading from an exercise (smart) bike aswell so it should be a drastic change. Sounds like I’ll need to buy a different seat and peddles as I don’t have a road bike
Excellent video Mark and impartial. Did you look at the Tacx Neo Bike Smart ?
Good stuff. Been there done it with bikes on & off trainers. Will take the kickr bike anytime over anything else. ✌️seeing how hard core you ride with it it’s no wonder it failed. But your a big guy pushing big watts 👊
Spot on comments & review - I am on bike replacement no.3 - right hand shifter everytime 🤷♂️
Good fair review. I ride the Wahoo Kickr Core with my road bike.
Thank you so much for the stresstest 😂 I think I by my a normal bike and a Kickr trainer and not a Kickr bike !
Oh man the first 20 seconds had me laughing literally out loud. Good stuff!
I used black heat shrink tubing for the two cables on the front end 😎
Outstanding review. Everything I wanted to know. Thanks.
I just got the kid's soccer border wallpaper removed in my home office/pain cave.
As for the tilt, I have the Kickr Climb and I really do like being able to change the angle on demand on workouts.
Thank you for the review, very concerning issues given the cost.
Is that a G-Shock GWG-1000 with a yellow strap I spot? Or a Garmin? Really interesting video, fair to say the Wahoo bike just couldn't cope with your power output. I'm sure future generations will be stronger... I have my BMC roadbike on my Wahoo Kickr V5 and can also generate well over 1000 watts and have had zero issues. Cheers!
@@MarkLewisfitness excellent choice, one of the great things about G-Shocks; not likely to get stolen. Unless you are wearing your Borneo Frogman maybe...
yes agree, sounded like a traditional bike's chain skipping a couple teeth to me ...props for staying in the standing position. I don't own one and am looking around. seems like a lot of $ for a cheaper looking trainer. btw like your veg food video .. funny AF, and agree on all counts
Appreciate the commentary on a neat trainer.
Thank you for providing a comprehensive and succinct review. I won't be able to afford this for a while, but I was curious to know what kind of issues it has. I am using a used $250 trainer and have gained great fitness through it, but I still wanted to know if the money is worth it should I have a chance to get a Wahoo bike in the future.
You can fix the wiggle in the backend by taking the lever off and moving it making it tighten more.
Just got my Wahoo Kickr bike a few hours before you dropped this vid, this video has left me with concerns. Left me wondering how wahoo is going to look after people outside warranty, which your about to experience. Also is the warranty experience in the UK representative of the experience you would get in Australia or other countries. Guess time will tell. In regards to pedals and saddle included, I almost wonder why bother including them, and instead have people buy them seperate. A more worthwhile accessory to include would be a Ant+ USB, as stated in the video a longer power cable, and maybe include 2 additional spare quick adjust handles.
Don’t they have a 2 year warranty?
Superb, honest review. Very much appreciated!
Great review. It's interesting about that problem of the bike dying. Mine did too. Just up and quit. But as you indicated, Wahoo didn't even hesitate to replace it. While they wouldn't go into detail as to what the problem was, they simply said it was a "known issue" and I got a new one in less than two weeks.
I came to this video because I was searching for people who do sprints on these things. I'm not an athlete. I ride it for fitness, but like many, I try to get a bit better each time, and sprinting is oddly something that seems more difficult than it looks. Not physically, necessarily, but from a technique standpoint.
I know some who have kickr bikes, who sprint on Zwift with the incline function almost at max descent, meaning the nose is down as much as they can put it, so they can go Viviani or something. I think it has to do with leaning forward and how that applies to power on the pedals? I don't know.
Some have their hands on the hoods with no pressure and just hammer it. While others are actually pulling up on the bars to increase the pressure on the pedals..(I guess), but some have issues with the front end actually coming off the floor.
I obviously don't know a damn thing about sprinting, because I don't know. But I also don't know about whether or not it's better to start your sprint in a smaller gear and shift up like you would in a race car or bike or start in what may be your preferred biggest gear and just aim for a certain RPM.
Either way, if you have any input it would be appreciated. But if not, great review otherwise. I've had mine (the second one) for almost two years now and there are some issues. I drilled the the stem and put a cotter pin through it to keep it from dropping, but that works for me since i'm the only one who uses it. I love it though. It's pretty good.
Cheers
What worries me is that your experience with the Wahoo customer service is very much due to the fact that you have quite an audience and might get a premium service for obvious PR reasons. Looking at Trustpilot however the reviews are largely scathing ... in particular when problems occur just after the warranty period ends and Wahoo basically says "not our problem". Now when wattbike released the atom they had exactly the same issues with customer service but they turned it around and recent trustpilot reviews of wattbike are very positive. So it's not a problem that can't be overcome but to me it doesn't look like Wahoo is making it a priority. Because of this I won't be touching Wahoo products with a bargepole.
Liking the revised intro!👍
the elvation change on the bike is really cool. But when the stages sb20 bike went for 1499 with 1 year of zwift the price difference was just to much to justify the kickr bike over it. Wahoo support is nice but over 2 and a half times the price is a hard sell
Thanks Mark, great, honest and funny review so I pressed the button on subscribe. Chapeau
really good practical review - sometimes guys sound like they are reading from the brochure
Great review 👏💪 , worth to keep in mind . It seems that Wahoo has alot to think of . When they make these very expensive trainers , and that is to to into account, well build persons like you . And not skinny triathlets
I tested this bike and realized I would break it and now I'm thinking of getting the stage bike.
Great info, thanks. I’m ordering mine now!
Love your channel, mate.
en mi opinion !! los 3.500e no los vale!!! demasiados problemas para el precio que tiene!!
Very interesting and detalles review..especially on the different Bike’s parts or components thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
nice one mark thx.. though im still doubting.. pricewise .. im 105 kg / 190 cm... dont want it to shake through the room
that sound it's making during your hard sprint efforts almost sounds like a backfire from them Japanese Import Cars.
One bottle cage....deal breaker 🤣. Very well done. This is a significant investment, so I appreciated the frank review. The Stages SB20 is built like a tank, but lacks so many features of the Wahoo bike (tactile feedback for gears, easy adjustments among them) that the Wahoo seems the likely choice. I need to drill down in other reviews to see if the bike is easily moved as I convert my living room into my pain cave. Again thanks for a great video
SB20 all the way for hardcore training / Zwift racing.
You could slip wood shim in the seat to take up the space
Lol, I like that Tacx sweet cover!!😄
Fantastic review Mark, thank you. One question, what is the wood platform you got under the bike that does the balance job incredibly well apparently. Thank you ! Oops sorry your talking about it right now ;) sorry
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Can’t beat the og watt bike pro imo
Mark you should think about a Wattbike Atom if the kickr gives up the ghost again, it’s doesn’t simulate the gradient admittedly but it’s absolutely rock solid. I’ve got a V2 ands it’s been incredible.
@@MarkLewisfitness I love my Wattbike too, same as you love your Kickr but its does have some faults, not least a slipping seat post (solved with a plastic shim ridiculously) . V2 version is supposed to be better though. I'd still recommend it (I'm a mere 82kg....not light but not 100kg either)
@@MarkLewisfitness why do that when you can have replacements once a year? It's like being a sponsored pro. I've doing that with tacx neo.
My issue with the kickr is it’s design is great in principle and adds to the realistic feel, but it’s too lightweight and flimsy to have longevity for a heavy/aggressive rider. I’m only just over 80kg but decided on the Wattbike as it’s design and history is more commercial gym based so it can take a beating. Nothing worse than a piece of tech with gremlins either electrical or mechanical, they just frustrate.
@@msjeal still based on online reviews still has a way to go. Less problems but way less feature rich.
Got the “new wattbike atom” too. It feels solid as anything. 96kgs here and regularly top 1000w in sprints. Does so without hiccups. The only annoyance I have is the noisey drivetrain. But with earbuds in, it’s hardly a big complaint. It’s a bit Ronsealy
many of my friends are on their 3-4+ kickr bike. They all slip and make clipping noise at 900-1000w+. Im using kickr 1til til they fix this problem.
Er på min andre no, håper den holder 🥴
@@Eirikkinserdal holdt ut?
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Doesn't Zwift automatically sync up with Garmin, I set up synchronization between platforms and I get activities uploaded to Connect. Garmin even updates my cycling VO2 and recovery time on my Forerunner, the latter is the "TruUp" feature ... it's funny that this doesn't work when I'm using an older Edge 520 that generates the same metrics (GPS, Cadence, HR, Power) but is not yet supporting TrueUp ... not sure if Zwift does or this just conincidentally works somehow, not even Garmin support could explain it.
One year and the bike essentially broke down, to the point of being unusable. That trainer costs $3500 USD. If you purchased a steel or titanium road bike that has disc brakes (so you have through axles) and a Wahoo Kickr trainer, you would never experience such a system failure. Yes a good steel bike & trainer would cost more, and a titanium bike would have a greater cost premium; but you would be able to throw thousands of watts of power at that combo for years. I wouldn't recommend an aluminum or carbon bike for such a trainer setup for someone of your size.
That's an interesting proposition. I've been looking at getting a Trek FX 2 or 3 bike w/ a Wahoo Kickr Trainer and was wondering how solid it would be compared to just buying a dedicated Smart Bike like the Kickr Bike or even the Stages SB20. Are you of the opinion that a good road bike matched with the Wahoo Kickr Trainer is a solid setup that should last years for most riders that ride with apps like Zwift for example?
Hi. Great review. V2 is now out and I’m hoping you have destroyed your replacement bike and can advise whether all your issues have been solved. Any experience with v2 and thoughts?
Fantastic review. Thank you
What do you recommend that I can put my own hardtail mountain bike on so I can ride indoors this winter? Ive never even heard of a Kickr bike until I started watching your channel. Maybe you already have a video about this(?) HAH! Never-mind . . . TH-cam is eavesdropping on my questions and presented me with one of your videos where you bought a trainer. Scary but convenient . . .
Love your blogs bud! I'm sure you've said in past videos, which league did you race in on WTRL? I was in EMEA E2 3-C .... our team won the league ... just dropped u a follow on zwift too