Great review as always. And I didn't hear a slavery reference either. People! Please stop creating issues where there are none. And for the record I am an American of darker pigmentation. :)
I am black and I want one...of course without the confederate flag...I'll leave that for the F-250, but I will take a peeing boy sticker or the peeing cat if you have one (Calvin & Hobbs). Also instead of the case Ginny Light..make it a case of Fat Tire..nice review by the way!!
What did you think of the cylinder deactivation? I had it in my '12 Ram crewcab. I found it loud and rough and any movement on the throttle shut it off. The 5.7 hemi I had did achieve and average of 19 MPG combines though. So it seemed to help. Just felt crude.
How are the 17" Wrangler DuraTRACS (not techs) prone to roller-skating? They have a ton of tread and sipes, are among the most higly rated truck tires out there, and they are capable in both summer and winter being one of the few AT tires that is not only M+S rated but also get the winter snow flake. You make them sound like they are Mud Terrain tires or something as squirrley as the BFG T/A KOs or Bridgestone Duellers or Firestone Destination tires all of which get very loose in wet weather or once the mercury drops.
Great off-road truck tire...don't get me wrong. But on dry pavement combined with this truck's lift, recirculating ball steering, etc. they tend to move about underneath you in a disconnected way.
I agree, I have them on my 1500 and they are fantastic off-road and ridiculous in wet and dry snow:). They do wander on pavement and even Goodyear ranks them 6/10!
miklar1971 Your comment didn't seem right, and when I just went in for the winter oil change, I thught I'd check again. Actually, Goodyear ranks them 8/10 on Dry or Wet Pavement; they are 6/10 for Road Noise.
Works better at higher speed off-roading than air-suspension which is available in the standard RAM. Also the the physical linkage works better for articulation than the cross-link-air style used in Air suspensions like in the Range Rover, which is good for sand and such, but when you move into Rock Crawling, then the coil-linked suspension works better.
Pawel Kaszuba - Didn't hear any such thing from me. Simply referenced the Confederate flag - something you often see displayed on these kids of trucks, at least around my parts.
Scott Campbell The Power Wagon is a model of the Ram series which can be had in an SLT trim level. Other trim levels available are the Tradesman on the low end and the Laramie as the highest trim level available.
The towing is based off the weight of the truck and the 6.4 liter hemi, and power train. But...if you hook up to anything that has any weight at all...itll squat like a son of a. Of course this is due to the coil springs. Leaf springs don't squat as severely. Trust me. I own a dodge 1/2 ton with the coil springs and the only time I drive my pickup is to work. Ie. Pull and take it on leases etc. Rides Nice, but payload is shit. Power wagon is just a bigger version of that with a difference front end. Not meaning grill. I mean suspension and control arms etc.
At least you admit the graphics are awful. Who in their right mind would want to drive around in this fruity pebble? Like how in the fuck did anybody at RAM think that a normal consumer would think that those graphics are "cool" looking?
Pay 9k more for 6mpg? Fuel filters every 15k? That's $$$ the upkeep on a cummins and the up charge for the engine doesn't end up saving anything even with the better mpg
I disagree. I drive my Cummins roughly 8-10k mile a year, so a new ~$90 fuel filter every 1.5 years doesn't really make a difference. Besides, when you're dropping this many g's on a truck you want the diesel. I couldn't be happier with my loaded 2016 Laramie Longhorn and I don't even tow much.
+Bajaheat Who said anything about 9k more? Work the system and get a good deal. And yes, I bought myself a diesel "do everything truck" with the interior of a luxury European car. Spent about 2/3 what I'd spend on a new Mercedes or Lexus SUV and can haul a boat or car trailer whenever I want with ease. Do I also need a 600 horsepower GTO? Nope, but it sure is fun to drive ;)
best pick up ever
We have the 2011 ram 4.7 still going strong love you he look of the Power Wagon (loud booming voice)
very good review
I can't be the only one that thinks it would be even more bad-ass with the hellcat.
Genny Light! Haha I always forget you're from Western NY.
Great review as always. And I didn't hear a slavery reference either. People! Please stop creating issues where there are none. And for the record I am an American of darker pigmentation. :)
I'd like to like to see this HEMI with the 8-sp automatic in the Powerwagon.
I am black and I want one...of course without the confederate flag...I'll leave that for the F-250, but I will take a peeing boy sticker or the peeing cat if you have one (Calvin & Hobbs). Also instead of the case Ginny Light..make it a case of Fat Tire..nice review by the way!!
And also. Sheldon Blankenship. It's the payload (not towing capacity) that determines whether it's a half ton, 3/4 or 1
What did you think of the cylinder deactivation? I had it in my '12 Ram crewcab. I found it loud and rough and any movement on the throttle shut it off. The 5.7 hemi I had did achieve and average of 19 MPG combines though. So it seemed to help. Just felt crude.
To be honest, it was so transparent that I had to check the stats it see if this HEMI had it.
How are the 17" Wrangler DuraTRACS (not techs) prone to roller-skating? They have a ton of tread and sipes, are among the most higly rated truck tires out there, and they are capable in both summer and winter being one of the few AT tires that is not only M+S rated but also get the winter snow flake.
You make them sound like they are Mud Terrain tires or something as squirrley as the BFG T/A KOs or Bridgestone Duellers or Firestone Destination tires all of which get very loose in wet weather or once the mercury drops.
Great off-road truck tire...don't get me wrong. But on dry pavement combined with this truck's lift, recirculating ball steering, etc. they tend to move about underneath you in a disconnected way.
I agree, I have them on my 1500 and they are fantastic off-road and ridiculous in wet and dry snow:). They do wander on pavement and even Goodyear ranks them 6/10!
miklar1971
Your comment didn't seem right, and when I just went in for the winter oil change, I thught I'd check again.
Actually, Goodyear ranks them 8/10 on Dry or Wet Pavement; they are 6/10 for Road Noise.
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KnightShadey Fair enough but I do find they wander and are not the best road tire:)
The red grill slats are a giant fail.
how could this truck with that big engine handle a regular gas
"Billsteen"??? of course...
Oh wow coil springs!
Welcome to the future america! :D
Works better at higher speed off-roading than air-suspension which is available in the standard RAM.
Also the the physical linkage works better for articulation than the cross-link-air style used in Air suspensions like in the Range Rover, which is good for sand and such, but when you move into Rock Crawling, then the coil-linked suspension works better.
Pawel Kaszuba - Didn't hear any such thing from me. Simply referenced the Confederate flag - something you often see displayed on these kids of trucks, at least around my parts.
Scott Campbell The Power Wagon is a model of the Ram series which can be had in an SLT trim level. Other trim levels available are the Tradesman on the low end and the Laramie as the highest trim level available.
Nice truck. 2500 it is not. Because of the upgraded suspension it's a heavier half ton, that tows a tad more. Good hunting vehicle tho.
Payload is 1450 lbs. Half ton.....
The towing is based off the weight of the truck and the 6.4 liter hemi, and power train. But...if you hook up to anything that has any weight at all...itll squat like a son of a. Of course this is due to the coil springs. Leaf springs don't squat as severely. Trust me. I own a dodge 1/2 ton with the coil springs and the only time I drive my pickup is to work. Ie. Pull and take it on leases etc. Rides Nice, but payload is shit. Power wagon is just a bigger version of that with a difference front end. Not meaning grill. I mean suspension and control arms etc.
Uhh, let's see ... 1450 divided by 2000 ... by golly, that's .725 ton, not .500.
At least you admit the graphics are awful. Who in their right mind would want to drive around in this fruity pebble? Like how in the fuck did anybody at RAM think that a normal consumer would think that those graphics are "cool" looking?
its old school..some people like old school
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Did not like the slavery references poor choice of words.
12.5 mpg FAIL. Grab a Cummins, get 20.
Pay 9k more for 6mpg? Fuel filters every 15k? That's $$$ the upkeep on a cummins and the up charge for the engine doesn't end up saving anything even with the better mpg
I disagree. I drive my Cummins roughly 8-10k mile a year, so a new ~$90 fuel filter every 1.5 years doesn't really make a difference. Besides, when you're dropping this many g's on a truck you want the diesel. I couldn't be happier with my loaded 2016 Laramie Longhorn and I don't even tow much.
+GTOAviator you payed 9k for an engine in a truck that you drive 9k miles a year? And you don't tow?
+Bajaheat Who said anything about 9k more? Work the system and get a good deal. And yes, I bought myself a diesel "do everything truck" with the interior of a luxury European car. Spent about 2/3 what I'd spend on a new Mercedes or Lexus SUV and can haul a boat or car trailer whenever I want with ease. Do I also need a 600 horsepower GTO? Nope, but it sure is fun to drive ;)