A 1971 memo was the blueprint for Project 2025. It was a Master Plan to legalize corruption
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- It’s easy to get disillusioned with American politics. There’s a two party system that makes everything seem intractable, a general lack or transparency, and an overwhelming sense that corporate greed somehow controls everything. But it didn’t have to be that way.
This week I had the great privilege to interview investigative journalist David Sirota about his brand new limited series podcast Master Plan. In it he traces the roots of our current political deadlock back more than 50 years to Nixon administration where the destined-to-be-impeached president took a bribe on tape from the Milk lobby.
When the news came out that dairy farmers were funneling vast sums of cash into the Nixon campaign American politicians did something almost unheard of: they passed new laws on campaign finance that made this exact thing illegal. What could have been the beginning of a new era of transparency in government ultimately had the opposite effect. Frightened by the possibility of clean politics a soon-to-be supreme court justice named Lewis Powell cooked up a document that became the vision of corporate oligarchs to legalize corruption. Sirota and his team of talented journalists (which includes my wife Laura Krantz) follow the story from the infamous Powell Memo through a series of backroom deals, pivotal supreme court decisions and bad faith efforts all the way to the penning of the Republican manifesto “Project 2025” in this year’s election.
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You are very wrong about the point you made concerning money in politics. Your argument disregards the media coverage and focus which Trump's campaign got. He didn't need to outspend Clinton because the media gave him endless coverage. They covered his empty podium while Bernie was giving a speech to a packed crowd. What message does that send to the public? Whats the symbol there? It says, this guy is important, take this guy seriously. The media made Trump and they got him elected. If the refused to cover him, he never would have gained half the traction he did. What's more, the democrats, namely the Clinton campaign was boosting Trump during the republican primaries! It was in the leaked emails, it's called the pied piper strategy, they wanted to run against Trump because they foolishly believed he's be the easiest to defeat in the general. Again too smart for their own good. To this day the DNC is still supporting MAGA candidates in down ballet elections. No one talks about this.
Forget about 2025. Look into Agenda 2030. That's what you should be worried about. That's going to be global. There'll be nowhere to run or hide.
@@TimJohnson-x1o; What's that old saying about even Bad publicity is Publicity... Gday
So replace the word rigged with Bought
Corruption is already legalised
Yes. Correct. This video is about how it got that way.
100% a political consultant can wear a gov badge and rep the gov, clock out and put on a Corp badge and rep a Corp. There's law firms representing the gov in some cases and monopolistic corps on other cases and both have lunch with opposing side
From centuries!
@@sgcarney it’s so interesting to hear. How Nixon can be disgraced and you see now, trump being hailed
Ya think?!
You need money to win election after Citizens United. We need to tax the billionaires.
Ya think?!
@@deniceeverham9467 the top 1 % wage earners pay 40% of the fed income tax. You want them to pay all? Tax talk is BS, spending is all that matters. Please get a clue.
@@scrout if they have 90% of the wealth, they should pay 90% of the tax. fixed it for ya
We also need to vacate Citizens United.
The system is what it does. We don’t live in a democracy with a fascist problem… we live in a fascist country with a democracy problem.
Every 2-4 years we have sham elections between the far right fascists and the fascist-lite fascists, and it’s the job of the Advertising/Entertainment industry to ram it down our minds and make it acceptable to us. There is very little substantive difference between the parties… they both have to be acceptable to their masters… the oligarchy.
So which version of fascist are you?
It's not as clean as you want to think. The dems are far less monolithic and hive minded as a whole, so far more is possible via that party. Look at how much Bernie changed that party's priorities. There is no parallel on the GOP side
@@richardvennel9679 yes, there are so many terms used to describe our system, but it is what it does. Which makes millionaires and billionaires more money. A government control by corporations to ensure their profits. Fash Ism
@@richardvennel9679 there is a difference between their masters though. Some are better than others
@@LorZan-ls9pqReally? There was a slight shift in the aesthetics of their rhetoric on the fringes of the party but no perceptible change of their actions.
A few examples: kids still in cages ripped from their families, deportation numbers trump could only dream of, attempted color revolutions and proxy wars still ongoing, Medicare 4 All completely abandoned, record high homelessness despite 20+ empty houses per homeless person, busting labor strikes, weaponizing the proact without backing it up with actions identical to how abortion was weaponized for fundraising/votes without actions... I could go on for hours
And then Philipp Morris and Reynolds but up the American food industry.
Which is why it is addictive with no actual nurturion
I seem to see that corruption is endemic in our whole country. At all levels not just government. At all levels of society. Corporations, down to local levels and businesses.
It's a byproduct of capitalism.
Natural monopolies should NEVER BE PRIVITIZED... THAT'S HOW YOU CREATE AN OLIGARCHY.
YEP...! 🙂👍👍 -70SomethingGuy
Especially finance.
@@dylannaenzo9737 Such as the British East India Company!
What can we the people do? Because no matter how much I and the people around me vote, it feels like these plans just are inevitable anyways... especially with the captured court that will entirely block any attempt to reverse or stop this.
Vote blue for the next 20 years. Over the last 54+ years the Republican Party has had significantly more members investigated, charged, arrested and convicted of corruption and illegal activities. Mitch McConnell has been especially corrupt in obeying the wishes of the extremist conservative Heritage Foundation and even being too cooperative with Russian interests. This elitist corrupt conservative Republican juggernaut has been responsible for eroding the American middle class for decades.
I don't think maybe people ever understood what the Chamber of Commerce ACTUALLY Does or IS. you just see it your whole life out of the corner of your eye but never really ask....
1. Public funding of elections
2. Get rid of Citizen's United
3. Only have a 6 week election system (all year is nuts and only feeds the tabloid approach to media)
4. Open primaries
5. Get rid of Electoral College
@@BirthingBetterSkills 6. Watch Veritasium's _Why Democracy is Mathematically Impossible_ .
@@imacmill Thanks for sending that link. It's way too mathie for my head but I like but yet there are problems. 1. NZ uses another system 2. Historically, back in time there were many democracies that lasted for hundreds/if not thousands of years rather than being dominated.
Voting is just one way to participate. The question about voting is not who is voting but rather how do we get our candidates. Should candidates be 'qualified' to run for governing positions? Or is it just celebrity?
Lots of thoughts
@@BirthingBetterSkills Those democracies survived, not because of the voting, but because the people willfully 'pretended' democracy was in play.
In the USA, Donald Trump has very clearly shown that democracy is a fragile facade, and people must willfully pretend it works for it to work. M A G A has decided they're not gonna pretend anymore, and are in the process of dismantling it. I'm certain they will succeed
Capitalism suffers from the same problem. We all pretend it works, but it only *_truly_* works, as advertised, for a tiny minority of capitalists.
Wow. Such a comprehensive list of bad ideas.
@@leeiamBad for who? Explain and give examples
The TH-cam algorithm is really doing its job today - a channel that debunks health misinformation AND features one of the best investigative journalists alive? Fine, here’s your damn subscription lol
Welcome!
" MONEY DOESNT TALK-- IT
"S W E A R S" - Bob Dylan
IT. SC4EAMS 🔥
When was it last that Congress and the Senate worked unhindered for "we the people"? Money by corporations, the oligarchs, and wealth is unhealthy for a democratic form of government, it's in their own self interest.
@@johnjuhasz7476 Agreed. The "Citizens United" is a significant part of the problem.
@@WWZenaDo This whole thing started in the 70s and has made a mockery of democracy. Unfortunately, the oligarchs among others are too deep into this thing, but taken one step at a time it can be corrected, but certainly not by the republicans.
Love this. Will check out the podcast now because of this. Keep up the great work Scott!
Wish someone would pull their finger out and do the same level of investigation in the UK and Canada!
Thank You!
Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies was incubating around the same time, around 1971, was it not? Hence, the legal horror we've been going through with Trump.
The term "donor class" needs to be changed to legalized theft. A donation connotates an action of charitable giving. There is nothing altruistic or charitable about corporate capture.
Fantastic interview. Incredibly important topic.
Remember that Corporations and Politicians are ALL JUST PEOPLE. PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU, but with power that is GIVEN to them.
@@letsRegulateSociopaths As Mitt Romney famously said “ corporations are people my friend “
Their power is social influence. It is given by the people and can thus be taken away by the people as well.
I thought a mop with a bucket for a head was running the country... But idk...
By us, the people. What does it tell you?
As a South African, I find it insane that the international corruption indexes are based on the perceptions of interviewed, anonymous 'business leaders' rather than a comparison of like versus like. We have rigorous legeslation on corruption, in fact what is considered illegal in regard politicians and is prosecuted as such, is often shouted from the rooftops as proof of how corrupt we are in comparison to both the USA and UK, when in those systems it is a matter of course. A severe case of 'colonial cringe' spouted by our right wing and reinforced by declarations from the West.
@@saunleecoetzee9170 Colonial cringe is very accurate in these countries which are former colonies operating as an extension of the old British or Imperial empire
Yes, there is some corporate sponsorship of Democratic Party events. But if you count the number of small donors and the average size of donations, there is no quetsion that the Democratis Party attracts far more small donors than the Republican Party. Trump's biggest 26 billionaire backers have already given him $162 million and that was up to August.
There's one reform you did not mention but appears to be doable. That is ranked choice voting. While not a panaceaia it does allot people to vote for their preference while not hurting their voting power by electing a person they really would not want. Like where Ralph Nader elected Bush as president by being a spoiler. Anouth problem is to much democracy in our system. This is where money can corrupt so much where lower level politicians can be overly influenced by money. This is why most other democracies have parliamentary systems and much more appointed positions by the party in power. Here citizens know more about what they are voting for and can be more in charge of what gets done.
@@stanleytolle416 ; Right just keep voting for your masters
Democrats are the party of the rich. After last election they went around asking Democrat donors if they made the donations to the party that was in their name. People denied making the contributions. People were donating money in other people's names. That is illegal but no one would investigate it. Just more corruption in the Democrat party.
@@BenEthridge Considering @stanleytolle416 post regarding ranked choice voting - are you replying from opposite day or did thinking about his points bust your brain?
Pretty sure the Military industrial complex loves the Democrats!
I love the surprise that in the 1970s, they wrote all this stuff down. Guys, the 40-50 year olds who did all this had NO IDEA that within 30 years, the warehouses full of papers that their crimes would be easily hidden within from the world, would be digitally scanned, indexed, and made searchable with any handheld device from anywhere in the world.
Anyone who isn’t invited to a fundraiser, you’re an idiot for donating to a candidate. You get nothing in return
I remember dairy farmers pouring milk on the ground.
I’m so surprised our protests are not on a mega massive scale. It’s usually the scale that makes such an impact. But also protests through purchasing power.
The Carlyle group is purchasing retirement / rest homes and increasing the cost of end of life services
@@jimsummers487 Do you have any links to info?
Great podcast! Thank you both for your trustworthy knowledge!
A fantastic interview with a great set of questions and analysis. Thank you!
There are tobacco leaves on the pillars of the White House.
Democrat, Republican, what does it matter. It's a Uniparty. The Uniparty is the only party, because they all party together. Come on man! Make America Healthy Again, that is all that matters.
Money is a huge problem that changes the way government can work. That said, there are substantial differences between the republicans and democrats. Just look at the debate last night.
@@sgcarney so you’re suggesting we vote blue right?
That’s how I will vote. Your vote is up to you.
It's called a debate just as WWF is called wrestling
@@sgcarney- it's finally time to vote for myself.
Power is $ and $ is power the hand and the glove fit
You should've put David Sororta's name in the title. Great interview. I love him
I think of the Powell Memo when I come across the video.
Me too Powell sent the memo in 1971 to the chamber of commerce. Laid out the plan to undermine the federal government power.
And in plain sight. This has been on going ever since
We need to bring back 'house hippo' like content to teach some critical thinking to the masses.
good idea.
The two party system allowed this type of corruption to thrive. Nader was marginalized and Bobby Kennedy was completely manhandled. A viable third party that committed to term limits and other issues along the same line could appeal to critical thinkers of both parties because critical thinkers in both parties do see value in the other party.
The lever looks like a great website though there's no such thing as greedflation. Inflation is the result of money printing and if the value of the dollar is less it makes sense the cost of a candy bar must rise because the dollar the company uses to make the candy bar buys them less.
In any event, I feel a lot smarter having discovered your channel! I had no idea this level of corruption existed. And to think it all started when Nixon decided to shake a bunch of dairy farmers down.
Greedflation is just the term people are using for price increases, which look like inflation, but are instead attributed to market forces like deliberately sustained high prices.
@@johnpienta4200 To be honest with all of the money printing going on I'm shocked we're able to purchase anything with a dollar any longer. I get what you're saying but companies have been shrinking the size of portions for awhile now. I have a question. Do you think it's possible we'll see hyperinflation in our future?
@@MechanicsAndCarpentry369 the M2 money supply has actually been shrinking.
Is hyperinflation possible? Yes, but it seems extraordinarily unlikely.
The CIA destroying the left side of the Democratic party with the Red Scare also plays a big role.
The IC is above the law and totally owned by the elites has been since inception we will never improve while that continues.
Neither parties care about the country. Politics has always been a sport, its about winning! And, that's it. Your welcome, bring your pawns.
Parties are people. They’re not ghosts. Or gods. Or magicians. They’re just…
People.
And people, all of us, have good and bad qualities, people DO good and bad things. It is our nature. Do you have a better idea? I’m all ears. But if you’re saying there’s a magical equation that solves for people’s faults? Bear in mind; that solution? It was created by people, too.
The only solution is to prevent millionaires and billionaires from existing in the first place.
The wealthiest Americans were taxed at higher rates during the 1950's, which is the time period when Republicans claim that America was at its financial peak with a solid middle class. From "Tax Foundation", the top 1% wealthiest Americans in 1950's were paying 42% - MUCH more than they - and their corporations - are paying now. The claim of a 91% tax rate on wealthy Americans is coming from 'marginal income', and during the 1950's and '60's there were NO BILLIONAIRES in existence in America. Imo that is also highly significant.
Millionaires aren't that rich these days.But billionaires should be taxed to the point they don't exist or forced to spend a certain amount on public good work, eg housing the homeless , animal shelters, scholarships, environmental protection programs etc.
@@robinantonio8870Compared to me, millionaires are astronomically rich. What social value does their existence serve, especially when EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS AN ACCIDENT OF BIRTH one way or another. Luck entitles them to live the good life? Fuck that.
Per my slow churning algorithm, I am now a new instant subscriber, appreciated this info, thanks for your energy! The beginning of things before Citizens United and the recent Chevron ruling. Totally sick and Un-American. Sadly Ralph Nader should have been our President at some point. What a different place we would be in if so. We need money out of politics and a New Nader! As a suggested content concept, who could that possibly be....?
@@goaliemojo4310 well, Bernie would be better than RFK. I like much of what they both SAY but very concerned about what they would DO. RFK is connected to Epstein.
Subbed to the guys pod on spotify!
Im wondering why Peter Theil and the like are so involved in politics?
Watch a whitney webb conversation and be informed. Or at least know where to look for the truth. Rem. you have to be discerning for yourself to recognise the truth.
You are being facetious, right?
Scott this is fascinating and amazing content. Thank you for introducing me to it. I have been trying to define corruption in simple terms for YEARS and y’all made it seem so easy. Thanks for this amazing clear definition. I hope people will start to learn thanks to people like you two spreading this.
IT was teh result of a lot of work on David's (and my wife's) parts. I'm just along for the ride with you.
Thanks!
Looking forward to it, Scott.
By the way, quick fyi, as a fellow writer - you misspelled 'breadth' in the final paragraph of your description. 👍
Thanks!
I would love to see a clean picture of that Phillip-Morris justice robe.
We need people like Ron Paul back into the candidates pool. The only candidate for the past 3 decades that actually had a sound plan. Not this reality show drama that are mastered by Clinton's, Bush's, Obama, Bernie, Trump, Biden, Kamala,...
Exactly. The drama is created by narcissistic power hungry egomaniacs who could care less about protecting a free open and fair society and culture.
Corruption is already legal
Love your content. I feel smarter every time I watch your content, thank you. ❤
I really appreciate that.
When has the government not aligned with business?
Clean water and clean air acts came through Nixon.
But the worst polluters were exempted from the legislation.... Haliburton...The Devil is in the details.... exemptions.
And Scott Pruitt the anti EPA AG from OK was appointed to run the EPA under Trump and set about to destroy it.
And then he sullied his presidential legacy with Watergate.
people wrongly think that the united states is a democracy. No, its not. Its a REPUBLIC, just like the pledge of allegance says.
Nice D&D collection, sir!
The COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL POLICY is THE organization formed to drive this
These things have never really beed hidden. This has been going on for 100 years
Layman's hypothesis:
Could the current inflationary "bubble" be a deliberate & concerted effort to sew unrest & dissention among the general population, leveraging modern computational power to evade detection, while keeping the efforts from tipping the economy into a full blown recession, unless or until such a recession is deemed necessary? Given the scale of corporate control over markets, is such a effort possible?
Sorry for the run-on sentence.
I remember seeing a video talking about how wealth always moves to the most talented. They did not specify at what talent in that video, but you surely do here.
Well done!
Facinating and interesting i will be looking forward to more podcast from you! Thank You kudos to your guest!!
Corruption is taking money for favors.What favor do you think the Tobacco Industry is looking for? That ship sailed a long time ago.
Elon musk is thinking he is a king of America and he installs president who will be usful for him 🤔
How did he install a president? Trump was nominated. The democrats didn't vote for their candidate though. You leftists project onto the right what you yourselves are.
If any of you are curious about P25 but don’t want to read it all, I made a custom GPT on Chat GPT called Project 2025 Guide. I uploaded the PDF to it and toss it to only use the document as a resource.
I made it so you can ask what it says, fact check things
Speaking of a lack of transparency, maybe it would be good to elaborate on the arguments being made by e.g. Clarence Thomas, rather than merely making judgements about them. For example, SCOTUS should be ruling on constitutional matters. Activist judges making new law (e.g. the original Roe v Wade judgement) is not supposed to happen. Thomas' judgement may well have been that the issue was not within SCOTUS jurisdiction and therefore should not be addressed either way (like the more recent cancellation of Roe v Wade) at the federal level.
It seems that Congress deliberately passes bad law to allow corruption via agencies who "work out the details". It also seems that the general issue is the scope of the federal government beyond the mandate the founders gave it. The problem of corruption is reduced when you have fewer ways to influence the flow of money. Regulation is used to create barriers to entry and funnelling money from the tax-payer to corporations via the government is not something that should happen.
Politics _should_ be relatively unimportant. Using "democracy" to impose restrictions on people is specifically why the USA was designed as a constitutional republic, not a democracy. If you stop the ability to spend (and overspend) money, the corruption is less important.
Funny how your grandparents would create a scheme to help their grandchildren....for however corrupt that is that wouldn't happen these days, people are too selfish to even make a plan like this.
Thank you !
You look like actor Michael Keaton.
Excellent information. Thank you
I thought a young Henry Winkler for Sirota
Fascinating! Thank you for this interview! Introduced me to another great podcast to go to.
Glad you enjoyed it!
"Corruption is what they leave you out of" - a Hungarian comedian.
Manifesto!
...and Nice Collection of 2nd Edition D&D books BTW.
I don’t even understand how you can use the word democracy with regard to the American political system 😂
much love for this guy from Muskegon, if you have any jobs for the next Hunter Thompson let me know, i can write, yo
Encrypted voting system that allows every citizen's votes to be submitted and changed at any time of year and make the votes all publicly (anonymously) visible. it would allow non uniparty candidates to gain prominence and visibility outside of the silly system we have now.
How about not.
Well laid plans will go south horrifically.
Mob went into milk over the booze 🍸 in case your unaware
This isn't the attitude of the very liberal NPR station in Dallas, tx towards donors impact on politics. Obviously its very cost effective, but is it always so simple? After all, voting blocks can remove politicians and the calculus cannot be as simple as the one with the most money wins.
Assuming elections are legit..........
"out of Babylon" all eight vids with related content teaches real freedom from all the tyranny
Equating a policy document of a consevative DC think tank as a Republican manifesto is simply dishonest. Think tanks on right and left produce policy documents routinely. They do not equate to the policy of any party. If this is not blatantly dishonest, it's unacceptably sloppy.
Trump baited them and they fell for it😂
Are the Candidates "Elected " ? Or are they "Appointed" and Selected ?
17:00 Powell laid it out.
Yes, our money and how we use it speaks volumes amongst ourselves. There's a clear difference between B2B purchases. Example a small local business purchase from another small local business. Are far more likely to receive referral . Where small local businesses purchases from large national corporation. Not so much.
I voted Nader in 2000 without knowing about threshold for govt support to Green Party.
I hoped that incremental increase in Green Party votes would lead to more voters thinking they had a chance, jumping on later.
I was low information, Gore hadn't yet written Inconvenient Truth, and Tipper was loud about censoring rock and roll.
I don't love the insistent anti - capitalist plank in their platform. I love that they _have_ a platform. I'm now fed up enough to be open to anti - capitalism.
I would throw votes to Green Party if we get ranked choice / preference voting.
❤❤
Eww. I don't like his opinion about people caring about their local elections more... It's like telling them to worry about the rat in the kitchen rather than the lion in the yard.
His point is you need to do both. But you can have more impact locally.
Money is property.
Condorcet paradox
As a 1st time viewer, I just want to comment about the books on the shelf if I see that right you have RPG books up there! If so Awesome
Thank you much. And indeed, that is a whole lot of D&D books going back to the 1980s.
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The Communist Party is also a stakeholder in some of these parties, including sponsoring the Democratic Party. The parties and country should divest itself from influences.
That is such complete bs.
Wrong think!
The CCP?🤣
@@Eskoteric You'll have to stop buying plastic crap from Temu, sadly.
Branding! What BS is that. Branding is what a corporation does for its commodities. Politics is not a BRAND until Wall Street and the Corporatists took over the political parties. A brand is something you sell. Why don't the Corporate Powers just pay me directly for a vote!
Hello, I here from Dr. Mike and I must say you do amazing work as a journalist. I'm lovin it. And all tho I'm just a rado from the internet, I hope you got the lesson from the potcast. I dont know if being nicer would cost you many viewers, but I can imagine that. I would like to see some of the "benefit of the doubt", but anyway.. I'm hooked. Sub & like & comment.
Nice. This is good.
You should be extremely embarrassed about voting for Nader in 2000. You actually helped GW Bush get elected.
Didn't I say I was embarrassed?
MAKING SO DAM MANY MAN-MADE LAWS THAT ARE BINDING *TYING US UP!!
Does anyone else think that these 2 guys are twins?
Yes, they were unelected, but they were the informed personnel JFK would probably have called to the Oval Office the next day for a meeting with consultants. Though there's no representation of the military there.
Woa into those that call good evil; and evil good'
nice collection of d&d books there.
QUESTION: What about age en a twenty 30….isnt that a bigger deal?
YEAH-- WELL WEN REPLACED ' MORALITY' FOR ' ETHICS' IN the
1970's !!!
How does project 2025 fit into Agenda 2030?
George W. Plunkitt and his Honest Graft
A question is a provocation? Nope.
is Nike your sponsor?