“All we need to do is break out, kill all the Jaffa, commandeer the ship, and fly on home.” Says O’Neil with a wave of his hand. Tealc: “I stand corrected.” 🤣 Thats is hilarious epic level sarcasm! LOL!
"Oh I don't know. All we got to do is bust out of here, take out every Jaffa between here and the Peltac, commandeer the ship and fly on home" Colonel Jack O'Neill (Two L's)
I still find it a terrible storyline end that they just killed the asgard off. Sure they gave us the asgard in pegasus and destiny, but the asgard the fans loved were the originals. The asgard were a proud civilization that would never commit mass suicide they still had decades if not centuries left to cure their degradation. Like surely they could have even went back in time to study their ancestors physiology. Or eventually found a way to blend human and asgard dna to create a hybrid that was sustainable. They were too smart to not solve an issue like this. That said, I'd love a prequel set in lantian time with the ancients, early humans under ancient governing and the human like asgard and maybe even the furling. Create a new enemy for them to fight and have a story set before the wraith and after the ori.
the easiest solution would have just to have built Asgard replicator bodies to download their consciousness into. They would be effectively immortal and could take the time needed to fix their cloning problems with their distant ancestor.
@@russell5078084 Sadly the Asgard didn't have the ability to go back in time. They only had the ability to slow or quicken time within a certain area, not the whole universe like the Ancients.
Personally, I think it is very interesting they have an Ancestor in a research lab. That is really interesting that they have that. I am not sure he is the usualy test subject.
that's because this Asgard is a female and was voiced by Teryl Rothery who played Dr Janet Fraiser on the show. There are other Asgards who were not voiced by Michael Shanks but they were all male, Heimdall is the only female Asgard featured on the show and that's why she sounds very different to the other Asgards who appeared on the show.
I agree. Much promise and then nothing. Why not make millions of first gen clones from this one original. It would given them more time to figure it out.
@@Slopmaster it was, basically their memories had outgrown that version of their bodies, kinda like how humans have around 300 years of memory in theory, except they kept extending their lives, memories etc, to the point where if they used a clone of this Asgard, there’s a good chance that they wouldn’t be the same person, with only a fraction of the knowledge/experience of the original, but with no way to select what to keep and what goes They’d survive, but they’d essentially die in the process
I agree 100000000% Sg1 ended too soon, it could have gone on for another 2-3 seasons, but I guess ratings maybe played a part? The Asgard were killed off way too soon. They could have had an episode where Asgard scientists figure out a way to reverse engineer their degrading bodies using information obtained from the ancestral Asgard remains combined with knowledge obtained by Loki due to his experiments with O'Neill. The plot could have played out that the experiment only has a limited success rate and that only a certain amount of Asgard could have their minds transferred into the new reverse engineered bodies snd thefefore form a small reproductive population. The ancestral Asgard were rather imposing in appearance, it would have been great to see Thor as well as several other Asgard being able to stand shoulder to shoulder with SG1 and fight, rather then just provide purely technological assistance.
I wish they kept the Asgard in the story to be honest. No race would voluntarily commit suicide just because they run into hard times. Especially since replicators seem to be so common in the universe every race is bound to encounter them. Even the ancients built a version of their own. Although their use was a bit misguided.
They were all dying. They decided to blow up their planet rather than risk their technology falling into the wrong hands. They just decided to stay on it while they did so. But yes it was quite a hasty move. They could have simply all gone into mass-stasis. Some theorise they simply gave the appearance of self-destructing, and there were inevitably some Asgard who were not on their home planet. The universe is a biiiiig place afterall. I like to think the Replicators are the natural culmination of nanotechnology which undoubtedly many races would develop at some point or another. Some sadly got loose.
Thor said they tried everything.... And replicators were ancients fault... I always thought that the ancients that came back from Atlantis still possessed some research on them and the guy who created Reese found it and based his form of replicators on it
I'm just surprised that after Thor was able to have his mind control a Goa'uld ship that the Asgard didn't decide to build robotic bodies for themselves, they already had the habit of uploading their minds to computers between bodies after all. Would have loved to see a true synthetic Aasgard race created.
In Stargate Atlantis they did bring the Asgard back for a 2-part episode. They were a rogue group of Asgard that were like Loki. As in, doing whatever experiment, no matter how morally objectionable, designed to extend the Asgard life span. The episodes were "First Contact" and "The Lost Tribe".
@@Soguweor into asgard human hybrid body engineered to allow for natural evolution after 2 generations with our cunning, determination,and asgard wisdom.
@@thomas.parnell7365 that was considered by the asgard, but ultimately not pursued further The humans weren't compatible enough They thought for a while that Jack might hold the key, being able to both contain and use the Ancient knowledge for at least a little, but that was not the case. That's why his genes were then fitted with a lock to prevent tampering, hence the teenage clone of Jack that's running around earth
I understand using the body to fix their current problems but they never explained why they couldn't create variations of clones off the old bodies from the ship. Sure, only one is fully intact but the others would have DNA variants of both dominant and recessive traits. Also, I assumed that all of the asgard uploaded their full consciousnesses to the asgard database before exploding their planet.
I might be wrong, but here's my take on the situation. I think it's as simple as the clonal DNA that is creating the physical bodies has degraded over time. The Asgard said they don't reproduce sexually (anymore), so dominant/recessive traits don't change... For thousands of years, they have been continuously building bodies off of the genetic code/material andof each individal Asgard, but the DNA templates are now not complete enough to create viable bodies. And due to the fact that their brain power is well, powerful and complex, they couldn't find a suitable organism to transfer their consciousness. Humans couldn't accommodate.... If the Asgard happened to find Ancient beings who have not ascended, it would probably work. However, I doubt an Ancient would tolerate two minds in one head. There are many work arounds to the issues I mentioned, but the writers chose not to find a solution. I'm not thrilled about it, but I believe the shorunners wanted to show human progression/evolution, and it was time for the humans to assume the role of galaxy caretakers. 😀
@@staceymarie427 make enough copies of something eventually there is nothing worth copying ... and using a copy that has already been made is kind of hard to get the pattern to transfer over ... so they literally need the fully clone to get a chance at making a new clone of it to use that ... and compare it to the original and see how it changed or didnt change ... .
@@2bituser569 I just meant to correct the mistake in the original comment. By SG standard, pretty much every other race is much much older than us, even Unas are older. Even though... technically speaking we are one day supposed to become Ancients so... I personally always felt like Earth is rightful heir of Ancient tech and knowledge.
Nathanielle Crawford true. Those good for nothing ascended Ancients were allies to Asgard and they didn’t fix their problem. Atlanteans were active 10k years ago.
As they say “All good things..”. We did get a continuation of the franchise in Atlantis with SG-1 as recurring characters for 5 years. Atlantis was cut down before its time. Both should have ran 10 years a piece.
A shame this was eventually tossed away. Such great potential in this plot thread, and a legitimate way to save the Asgard people, which I would have very much loved to see at the end.
What's funny about O'Neil's quip at 2:19 is that his watch inspired Teal'c rebellion in the first episode. No wonder the Jaffa took it after he was captured!!!
No, otherwise the humans of the Pegasus galaxy would've all been adhering to Origin by the time the SGC got there. They seem to have stopped caring about the war until Vala & Daniel poked them. Which is.......... weird, considering they were kind of pretty much as power-hungry as the Goa'uld and had much greater means.
One thing I always wondered after seeing this episode was couldn't the Asgard started the cloning process all over again with the specimen in this episode? Because the problem was that they kept cloning a clone. Having a fresh DNA sample could mean they could start again.
To adress the "they didnt have to suicide they still had time" The Asgard where on the end of technologies they invented everything they could have. They tried their last ditch effort which made them all sick and close to death. They failed as a race because the next step would be asscension which they did not do.
i've always thought why not clone that body it may be compatible with their current asgard minds allowing them to take a step back in there evolution but renewing the gene pool!
Why couldn't the Asgard simply begin to clone themselves again from those ancient bodies they've found? Yes, they would lose them but it would give them thousands of years to fix the problem.
i miss this show so much. my favourite indeed. but i still think how they end sg1 a lil bit weak. i was hoping a really big war between all races with the ultimate villain(s) for several episodes or maybe the entire final season. who agree?
Imagine how much further they could have taken the whole asgard timeline!! Sheesh it would have been epic but they just wiped them out... awful. What space bearing society wouldn't have multiple worlds spread out over the galaxy.... ridiculous.
Its honestly quite jarring to hear an Asgard with a modified version of Rothery's voice as I'm so used to the extremely formal sounding male-aligned Asgard.
why don't asgard try combining their genes with ours? i mean, their ancestor are not far different from us. maybe in our genes lies the answer of their degeneration problem.
Its a shame they took a perfectly good show formula and gave it a lobotomy. Then comes Stargate Universe good structure that was neutered and everything done to minimize the per show content.
The void timbre is wrong for the small physiology -- also the lack of any covering -- not for modesty -- but for preserving body heat. The smaller you are the faster you loose body heat no matter the animal. This made this series unwatchable for me -- cheesy CGI and lack of thought on simple things bothered me.
1:45 I love how Heimdall had no illusions about the Goa’uld eventually finding the lab instead of arrogantly waiting for them to come.
Man I miss this show.
@@dragosz5409 Only fools and horses.
I was just thinking that myself.
@@dragosz5409 Farscape is a good sci-fi show to watch after SG1 given that several of the actors from the latter are also featured in the former.
It's on dtv
“All we need to do is break out, kill all the Jaffa, commandeer the ship, and fly on home.” Says O’Neil with a wave of his hand.
Tealc: “I stand corrected.” 🤣 Thats is hilarious epic level sarcasm! LOL!
After all of O'Neil's exploits, maybe he could believe it.
"Oh I don't know. All we got to do is bust out of here, take out every Jaffa between here and the Peltac, commandeer the ship and fly on home" Colonel Jack O'Neill (Two L's)
I love how fluidly Heimdall moves.
He's Alpha, the picked up that 10 kilo console like it was nothing.
@@Brukner841 A race of warriors wouldn't have design weak bodies.
@@DavidKnowles0 he's still Alpha
Teryl Rothery, aka Doc Frasier, did this voice like Michael Shanks did Thor.
I miss the Asgard. I miss Stargate !
Final line cracks me up.
lol
Me too! Teal'c has always been the funniest one. (Yeah, this calls for an "Indeed!")
Undomesticated equines could not remove me
@@philiptucker6119 Wild horses, the term is wild horses...
'I will require your assistance to adapt the stasis pod to the cargo ship's power suhplighhh'
This was my favorite show I have ever episode and movies
On Netflix as soon as new month starts I will reup and watch again
LOVE THIS SHOW!
....THAT'S A UNDERSTATEMENT ...
I still find it a terrible storyline end that they just killed the asgard off. Sure they gave us the asgard in pegasus and destiny, but the asgard the fans loved were the originals.
The asgard were a proud civilization that would never commit mass suicide they still had decades if not centuries left to cure their degradation.
Like surely they could have even went back in time to study their ancestors physiology. Or eventually found a way to blend human and asgard dna to create a hybrid that was sustainable.
They were too smart to not solve an issue like this.
That said, I'd love a prequel set in lantian time with the ancients, early humans under ancient governing and the human like asgard and maybe even the furling.
Create a new enemy for them to fight and have a story set before the wraith and after the ori.
the easiest solution would have just to have built Asgard replicator bodies to download their consciousness into. They would be effectively immortal and could take the time needed to fix their cloning problems with their distant ancestor.
Have to say I agree, seemed a really weak storyline full of holes killing of my favourite species in the show... not happy when it happened...
They could have gone back in time and acquired all the genetic samples they needed.
@@russell5078084 Sadly the Asgard didn't have the ability to go back in time. They only had the ability to slow or quicken time within a certain area, not the whole universe like the Ancients.
@@steeltimberwolf Carter could have told them how to do it.
Personally, I think it is very interesting they have an Ancestor in a research lab. That is really interesting that they have that. I am not sure he is the usualy test subject.
I don't ever remember an Asgard sounding like that. I have the whole season 5 DVD set I'll have to watch this episode again.
I thought so too. I found his talk kind of weird. It didnt sound like an Asgard.
I think it's because it's a female Asgard. Or at least it was voiced Teryl Rothery.
that's because this Asgard is a female and was voiced by Teryl Rothery who played Dr Janet Fraiser on the show. There are other Asgards who were not voiced by Michael Shanks but they were all male, Heimdall is the only female Asgard featured on the show and that's why she sounds very different to the other Asgards who appeared on the show.
I remember it perfectly and I've only seen this episode once.
This was such a wasted story line...
I agree. Much promise and then nothing. Why not make millions of first gen clones from this one original. It would given them more time to figure it out.
@@2bituser569 agreed. It’s like this plot was forgotten.
@@2bituser569 I think it was because they didn’t have the brain capacity to hold an Asgard mind.
@@Slopmaster it was, basically their memories had outgrown that version of their bodies, kinda like how humans have around 300 years of memory in theory, except they kept extending their lives, memories etc, to the point where if they used a clone of this Asgard, there’s a good chance that they wouldn’t be the same person, with only a fraction of the knowledge/experience of the original, but with no way to select what to keep and what goes
They’d survive, but they’d essentially die in the process
I agree 100000000%
Sg1 ended too soon, it could have gone on for another 2-3 seasons, but I guess ratings maybe played a part?
The Asgard were killed off way too soon.
They could have had an episode where Asgard scientists figure out a way to reverse engineer their degrading bodies using information obtained from the ancestral Asgard remains combined with knowledge obtained by Loki due to his experiments with O'Neill.
The plot could have played out that the experiment only has a limited success rate and that only a certain amount of Asgard could have their minds transferred into the new reverse engineered bodies snd thefefore form a small reproductive population.
The ancestral Asgard were rather imposing in appearance, it would have been great to see Thor as well as several other Asgard being able to stand shoulder to shoulder with SG1 and fight, rather then just provide purely technological assistance.
2:46 this is how I look like when I'm not laughing, Colonel.
Did Teal'C just make a joke at the end there?
I wish they kept the Asgard in the story to be honest.
No race would voluntarily commit suicide just because they run into hard times.
Especially since replicators seem to be so common in the universe every race is bound to encounter them.
Even the ancients built a version of their own. Although their use was a bit misguided.
They were all dying. They decided to blow up their planet rather than risk their technology falling into the wrong hands. They just decided to stay on it while they did so. But yes it was quite a hasty move. They could have simply all gone into mass-stasis. Some theorise they simply gave the appearance of self-destructing, and there were inevitably some Asgard who were not on their home planet. The universe is a biiiiig place afterall. I like to think the Replicators are the natural culmination of nanotechnology which undoubtedly many races would develop at some point or another. Some sadly got loose.
Thor said they tried everything.... And replicators were ancients fault... I always thought that the ancients that came back from Atlantis still possessed some research on them and the guy who created Reese found it and based his form of replicators on it
At least the asgard weren’t some kind of douchebags like the acients leaving their tech everywhere which could wipe out whole galaxies.
I'm just surprised that after Thor was able to have his mind control a Goa'uld ship that the Asgard didn't decide to build robotic bodies for themselves, they already had the habit of uploading their minds to computers between bodies after all. Would have loved to see a true synthetic Aasgard race created.
In Stargate Atlantis they did bring the Asgard back for a 2-part episode. They were a rogue group of Asgard that were like Loki. As in, doing whatever experiment, no matter how morally objectionable, designed to extend the Asgard life span. The episodes were "First Contact" and "The Lost Tribe".
Stands corrected while sitting down... lol..
David Keane indeed
Can’t believe they took my watch
Could clone this version of asgard and transfer their minds to the clones.
This should give them a few more thousand years.
That assumes that is a viable option
@@Soguweor into asgard human hybrid body engineered to allow for natural evolution after 2 generations with our cunning, determination,and asgard wisdom.
@@thomas.parnell7365 that was considered by the asgard, but ultimately not pursued further
The humans weren't compatible enough
They thought for a while that Jack might hold the key, being able to both contain and use the Ancient knowledge for at least a little, but that was not the case. That's why his genes were then fitted with a lock to prevent tampering, hence the teenage clone of Jack that's running around earth
i've watched this series 2 times within the last year and dont remember this
It is ten seasons.
I understand using the body to fix their current problems but they never explained why they couldn't create variations of clones off the old bodies from the ship. Sure, only one is fully intact but the others would have DNA variants of both dominant and recessive traits. Also, I assumed that all of the asgard uploaded their full consciousnesses to the asgard database before exploding their planet.
I might be wrong, but here's my take on the situation. I think it's as simple as the clonal DNA that is creating the physical bodies has degraded over time. The Asgard said they don't reproduce sexually (anymore), so dominant/recessive traits don't change... For thousands of years, they have been continuously building bodies off of the genetic code/material andof each individal Asgard, but the DNA templates are now not complete enough to create viable bodies.
And due to the fact that their brain power is well, powerful and complex, they couldn't find a suitable organism to transfer their consciousness. Humans couldn't accommodate.... If the Asgard happened to find Ancient beings who have not ascended, it would probably work. However, I doubt an Ancient would tolerate two minds in one head.
There are many work arounds to the issues I mentioned, but the writers chose not to find a solution. I'm not thrilled about it, but I believe the shorunners wanted to show human progression/evolution, and it was time for the humans to assume the role of galaxy caretakers. 😀
@@staceymarie427 make enough copies of something eventually there is nothing worth copying ... and using a copy that has already been made is kind of hard to get the pattern to transfer over ... so they literally need the fully clone to get a chance at making a new clone of it to use that ... and compare it to the original and see how it changed or didnt change ...
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They have a 30,000 years old civilization. And they eventually gave up all their technology to us, we, that have a 150 years old technology.
Thor said they are about 100 000 years old. We are 12 000...
Jozef Pecha still babies by comparison. The Asgard had space ships and cryo 30k. We were wearing bearskins
@@2bituser569 I just meant to correct the mistake in the original comment. By SG standard, pretty much every other race is much much older than us, even Unas are older. Even though... technically speaking we are one day supposed to become Ancients so... I personally always felt like Earth is rightful heir of Ancient tech and knowledge.
Say, "You are the Fifth race," If you ever want to see me crying like a bitch.
I think they're older than that. In the last episode the mentioned they had a recorded history of a million years.
The answer to their problem is simple. Travel back in time and retrieve enough genetic samples from that ship before the cryopods failed.
russell5078084 That would be a good episode. But would be great if a ancient ship came to investigate.
Or causes the past Asgards not to start their cloning program and cause timeline changes.
Time travel in the Stargate universe isn't as simple as it is in Star Trek.
Nathanielle Crawford true. Those good for nothing ascended Ancients were allies to Asgard and they didn’t fix their problem. Atlanteans were active 10k years ago.
Shame they didn’t make a season 11
As they say “All good things..”. We did get a continuation of the franchise in Atlantis with SG-1 as recurring characters for 5 years. Atlantis was cut down before its time. Both should have ran 10 years a piece.
A shame this was eventually tossed away. Such great potential in this plot thread, and a legitimate way to save the Asgard people, which I would have very much loved to see at the end.
Les Asgard, ❤❤, comment dire je vous aime à l’infini!! Si seulement il existait des extraterrestres comme vous, je serais comblée 🥴😍😍
What's funny about O'Neil's quip at 2:19 is that his watch inspired Teal'c rebellion in the first episode. No wonder the Jaffa took it after he was captured!!!
Teal'c :"I stand corrected. Ya plan just turned into a suicide mission" 🤣
Time to dedicate a whole planet with the task of creating the perfect asgard body which can evolve on its own again.
Question. Have the Ori ever met the wraith? An interesting pit fight that would make,lol.
No, otherwise the humans of the Pegasus galaxy would've all been adhering to Origin by the time the SGC got there.
They seem to have stopped caring about the war until Vala & Daniel poked them.
Which is.......... weird, considering they were kind of pretty much as power-hungry as the Goa'uld and had much greater means.
Yes. They lost
This is where Bashar Communications gets their material.
I never understood why they couldn’t just clone that ancestors genes.
I suppose it's possible that the body itself was untainted but also no longer compatible with them.
"I stand corrected." Lol
He was actually sitting 😂
One thing I always wondered after seeing this episode was couldn't the Asgard started the cloning process all over again with the specimen in this episode? Because the problem was that they kept cloning a clone. Having a fresh DNA sample could mean they could start again.
How can you be trapped in a prison cell he's MacGyver oh wait a minute that's another show.
Now he's just MacUseless.
He said it, they took his watch. Without that he has nothing
Pyro Head which one?
The Goa'uld obviously watched the MacGyver TV sho... I mean historical documents.
To adress the "they didnt have to suicide they still had time" The Asgard where on the end of technologies they invented everything they could have. They tried their last ditch effort which made them all sick and close to death. They failed as a race because the next step would be asscension which they did not do.
Android bodies like the duplicate SG-1 team had. Just upgrade the power packs to Energizers and good to go for millions of years.
i've always thought why not clone that body it may be compatible with their current asgard minds allowing them to take a step back in there evolution but renewing the gene pool!
All they needed was a dna sample and atlantis. Although using the same dna for each asgard might cause problems
I woulda loved to see the Asgard revived in new bodies fighting alongside sg1
Why couldn't the Asgard simply begin to clone themselves again from those ancient bodies they've found? Yes, they would lose them but it would give them thousands of years to fix the problem.
Why does the Asgardian have Miss Jane's voice from the Beverly Hillbillies??????
Isn't the voice of the Asgard the female Tok'ra leader?
Maybe the actress played multiple roles? XD
Terri Hatcher the doctor for sg1
Not Terri Hatcher, Teryl Rothery. But yes, the doc.
Steal a sarcophagus and revive him?
Ken P Some drivel in the original movie said something about human bodies being easy to repair compared to their previous hosts.
i miss this show so much. my favourite indeed. but i still think how they end sg1 a lil bit weak. i was hoping a really big war between all races with the ultimate villain(s) for several episodes or maybe the entire final season. who agree?
The last Two seasons Were awful
Thor likes the yellow ones.
30,000 years and still no pants? Aren’t they cold?
Pants are for women to absorb their rotting egg cells that they expell from themselves to not polute the area that they stand on. Men don't wear such.
This really should have been a longer storyline and not just the mcmuffin of the week.
Carter looked down at its junk!
Imagine how much further they could have taken the whole asgard timeline!! Sheesh it would have been epic but they just wiped them out... awful. What space bearing society wouldn't have multiple worlds spread out over the galaxy.... ridiculous.
now that he had an ancestor why not use him to restore Asgard health?
All I see is Howard the Alien
They could have solved all their problems by simply cloning the Asgard ancestor.
Must have blown half of the budget just make a cgi walking asgard!
I think they were actually animatronic. The cgi would be cheaper
Its honestly quite jarring to hear an Asgard with a modified version of Rothery's voice as I'm so used to the extremely formal sounding male-aligned Asgard.
They could have saved the asgard with the wraith darts and the lantian machine that could make flesh and blood bodies.
Thor come to earth safe oss .
why don't asgard try combining their genes with ours?
i mean, their ancestor are not far different from us.
maybe in our genes lies the answer of their degeneration problem.
They already tried, we're not compatible.
That's what all the UFO sightings and alien abductions are about in this universe.
Its a shame they took a perfectly good show formula and gave it a lobotomy. Then comes Stargate Universe good structure that was neutered and everything done to minimize the per show content.
Carter checked out he's junk.. lol
Is he sure it's a dude?
I don't see a pee-pee...
They've evolved beyond the need for pee-pees. Evolution is bad.
Admiral Titan Entertainment referring to the one in cryo I think.
Too bad this did not help ...
So advsnced 😂
The void timbre is wrong for the small physiology -- also the lack of any covering -- not for modesty -- but for preserving body heat. The smaller you are the faster you loose body heat no matter the animal.
This made this series unwatchable for me -- cheesy CGI and lack of thought on simple things bothered me.