when you hear people say rap or hip-hop is a black artform, what that means is (well...to me) is that its not black-only, or only for black people. all it means is that it is an artform founded & created by black people (which it is. fact.). but it doesnt mean that other races arent equal within it or anything.
crazy this interview was one year exactly before camus death and then depart from me revolved around a completely different concept (camu death, girlfriend break up) from the original things he stated
@@crazyhiphopp perpetuating black stereotypes he said it like 10x. It was so funny. This is so old but I remember vividly, me and a friend used to always crack up at it
Damn, you hit the nail right on the head. I kind of saddened by the fact that he just dismisses his whole past, which is what made him who he is today. If he never was a confused white kid trying to be black or whatever the fuck he calls it then where would he be today. I love the old cage rocking the north face with the fronts and having an L in his mouth. I do understand him though, he has to eat to and these wack ass kids are buyin his shit so why not.
He never said fuck you go away. He said fans of Movies probably won't like his newer shit. I'm not going to spout some shit about how you have to like his newer stuff, but don't think he's abandoned you. He's just changed his life and it reflects through his music.
I appreciated what he said about perpetuating black stereotypes, he's being himself now and I like that I also think that a lot of people feel like he's turned his back on hip hop, but i think that he just knows his audience, it just happens that the majority of his audience are hardcore kids, he just makes music they like. Hip hop fans have to realize that this music is no longer exclusive, everyone listens to hip hop now, even people who have never heard the names Rakim or Big Daddy Kane.
@@crazyhiphopp Disagree, I'm bored of this satanic obsessed emo uber white boy vibe he's been on. I want those clever bars with a sick sense of humor he used to hit us with in the 90s and early 2000s, I want some emotional honesty like he gave us on Hell's Winter, I want to hear an ounce of passion and love for the culture he came from. I was willing to take the ride with him on both Depart From Me and Kill The Architect but I was hoping for a return to home but instead just about everything he has released since then has been a step too far in the wrong direction. I think he needs to get in touch with his Hip-Hop roots. I doubt Cage would ever see this, but if by any chance you're reading this Cage, just give us one more album of what us fans who been riding with you since Radiohead or even "Rich Bring 'Em Back" really wants! For Your Box, Porn Again, Movies For The Blind, Leak Bros, Hell's Winter... I'm not saying the lyrical content has to be the same as those but what we really want is something with that level of lyrical quality over some sick sample based boom bap... Preferably Necro beats 😉
@@crazyhiphopp I think you're right about it not happening, but I got to keep the dream alive 😁 ... As for the maturity thing, I'm not so sure because all this "Sam Hill" Infernal Depths and Death Miracles music isn't giving me much of a mature vibe. I'm getting like an emo teenaged angst yearning to be edgy so I'm going to obsessively rhyme about worshiping satan kind of vibe.
@@GodlessG0D I can’t remember what interview but he said in one interview that he does that to appeal to a certain audience so maybe edgy teens 😂 no idea man sorry
Cage is one of my favorite rappers, and has been since I hheard agent orange, but he needs to cut this shit out and hook up with Necro again, fuck all this depressing shit
it takes a lot of guts to come forth and admit his past faults, and that he was a confused white kid. i respect cage 100x more now, this was great interview. very interesting to see how cage has changed thru the years
@@idontknowidontknow5360 copy had beef with the other weathermen dudes and got jumped by camu and cage, def jux split after camu died. Cage focused on his solo career!
in my opinion,depart from me is his best work,and no im not emo,my wrists are scar free!im a pure underground hip hop junkie,i love his old work,but dfm is awesome,in my opinion of course
yeah i've listened to all the new sam hill stuff, feels like he got scared because he doesn't have a real fanbase anymore and tried to please the movies for the blind fans, but i don't think he has it in him anymore
and by 'the film' do you mean Clockwork Orange? cos the score from that film is sampled in Agent Orange, and he makes reference to it in the lyrics,,like 'Alex' is the main character in the film and his Droogs are his crew. sorry if i missed the point and you knew all that
this is a progression...the guy got over a drug habit and now he's detached from his old self. He's found some peace and hes matured...respect that for what it is, whether you like it or not its not like he's gone commercial. Its real.
I agree with him. Nobody has a problem with white rappers or non gangsta black rappers other than those perpetuating stereotypes. No one uses the the term "wigger" other than those people. granted they're mainstream, u gotta respect acts like kanye and lupe for trying to show a different face of hip hop. I'm sick of coming across ppl who say "i hate rap bc all they talk about is 'nigga nigga ,hoes and glocks'" and thats not what its about at all
Oh I totally agree. I'm a writer myself. I've been writing since I can remember, so I can definitely appreciate what you said there. I just mean't it as a skin colour thing. Reading that back, "music is sound" sounds kinda silly when I read what you put.. Music is definitely much more.
Too bad Cage isn't more the guy i liked so much. I got so much memories to his music and his legendary album Movies for the blind. It's probably better for him this way, but i cant imagine a bigger transformation that what he did. Fucking hate it. Still listening to Movies for the blind though..
dope artist... through all the years all projects been real dont matter black or white stereotypes fuck em every project has been dope cant wait for new 2013 stuff thats coming out..kept it real when others didnt fa sho
maybe it doesnt mean much to him because myspace is a mainstream tool (but also a tool for underground..im not sure how to explain it right)..hes makin music for himself n he doesnt care what the masses think but at the same time he appreciates the realness of a true fan at a show that wants 2 shake his hand...as an artist also, I respect props from someone i know or someone in person as opposed to someone who posted a comment. im just putting this out there...I really dont know, great question.
As much as I've always admired cage's music, I just cannot get into his newer shit no matter how hard I try. I mean I respect him for getting sober and all, kudos to him for that, but I just don't understand why he'd WANT to lose all of his older fans. These so called "assholes" are the ones who've supported him from the inception of his music career. That's almost like looking up to someone your whole life, then that person turns and says "fuck you go away". That shits not cool, and as far as
not for those who relate to him,its like therapy im new to this guy,but I listen 2 kid cudi all the time ,jis 1st 2 albums were great if he mad e more like that I wouldn't mind,becuas e I love it so much and relate so much.its like therapy.
Your wrong on so many levels. He doesn't dismiss his past at all, he grew up. He is being himself now, making the tracks he wants. This isn't a sell out because a new crowd likes his music. He just wants to be himself. Regardless, his lyrics are still tight regardless of if it's metal heads or hip hop heads enjoying it. In fact, the fact that the divide is being crossed between styles is a good thing for music as a whole.
Why. You can see that this man has really changed, i've been listening to him ever since I was introduced to Five Deez in 2001. That's crazy man, you rock. Fuck the haters.
all of cages music is new to me. so its easier to digest. the tribute to camu tao is fucken dope as hell. idk why his fans wouldn't like that song. but for cage to say perpetuating what a black stereo type is is just like saying that white people shouldn't rap. def jux are whiteboys with wider intricate views than most black rappers bring to the table.
I respect cage, with that being said, I do believe he is facing a major identity crisis.I respect what he has done and what he is doing, but I understand why he is losing the hardcore heads that supported him out tha gate.DFM is creative BUT it lacks in a pure hip hop aesthetic. I doubt we will hear anything close to Hells Winter again.I heard major growth/progress in that album&it IMO is his best work2date. he has taken his newfound identity a bit overboard&is losing hisHIPHOP fanbase.OUCH
It is a black art form. It started around black people back in the day. Sugarhill Gang, Run RMC, Afrika Bambaataa... black guys. And he probably doesn't think white people shouldn't rap because he is white. He's just doing his thing. He's admitting he's doing what predominantly black people do, but he doesn't seem to care. So why should you?
Hes not speaking the same as in this interview - youtube = watch?v=m5uVN8-fLlc Hrmmmm. I wonder when the interview Im talking about was done. Because if its AFTER this interview, then that doesnt make sense lol... If it was before, then yeah, I get it. But his dialect is extremely different in these two interviews. Its like night and day (no pun intended)...
Anyone noticed how Cage started acting like El-P around the time he swithced up his music style? If you watch The Home Movies or the Def Jux Tour DVD you can see how El-P talks the same way in interviews and even does the same facial expressions. Back then Cage had his own personality and way of talking. I think El-P had a big influence on him. And he seems more insecure in this interview than he ever did back in the day. I think he was depressed, drugged up and tired here.
it aint strange people complaining about his new style. i mean, these are his (former?) fans, who bought his albums, went to see his shows, people who related to him, people who put money in his pocket. Growth has nothing to do with it, he rapidly changed paths away from his fans who were with him on the road to damnation. And then suddenly cage wasnt there anymore. That false prophet chickend out. and he influenced/encouraged allot of people to follow in his footsteps and then he splits.
Uh he said he's not a homosexual to prove the point that he doesn't care what other dudes think about the way he dresses or does his hair. Sexual orientation is not a minority group.
Cage is an amazing artist and I respect his change in style. He's more honest.
when you hear people say rap or hip-hop is a black artform, what that means is (well...to me) is that its not black-only, or only for black people. all it means is that it is an artform founded & created by black people (which it is. fact.). but it doesnt mean that other races arent equal within it or anything.
guys, he grew up. his tastes grew up. deal with it. the guy is real as it comes.
crazy this interview was one year exactly before camus death and then depart from me revolved around a completely different concept (camu death, girlfriend break up) from the original things he stated
Haha they cut away when Cage started to question why the interviewer was asking him about his looks.
Is it still up anywhere?
@@jp05598 nope I looked everywhere
@@crazyhiphopp perpetuating black stereotypes he said it like 10x. It was so funny. This is so old but I remember vividly, me and a friend used to always crack up at it
@@jp05598 it got me also haha
Those are some really sad eyes.
Damn, you hit the nail right on the head. I kind of saddened by the fact that he just dismisses his whole past, which is what made him who he is today. If he never was a confused white kid trying to be black or whatever the fuck he calls it then where would he be today. I love the old cage rocking the north face with the fronts and having an L in his mouth. I do understand him though, he has to eat to and these wack ass kids are buyin his shit so why not.
He never said fuck you go away. He said fans of Movies probably won't like his newer shit. I'm not going to spout some shit about how you have to like his newer stuff, but don't think he's abandoned you. He's just changed his life and it reflects through his music.
This dudes a mad ill talent.
Love his work along with alternative mcs/rappers like EL-P, Sage Francis, Saul Williams, Death Grips, B Dolan, Allflaws
This man is a living legend. G.O.A.T.
agreed bro, real respect real, so i respect you
No wonder Eminem was hating on this dude. He naturally talented.
It was the other way around but ok
@@grimmest-888Eminem stole from Cage! Plus Eminem sold out!
@rickyallen560 Cage shit isn't and wasn't original .
Anyone with a brain knows his so-called style is Redman on crack.
I appreciated what he said about perpetuating black stereotypes, he's being himself now and I like that
I also think that a lot of people feel like he's turned his back on hip hop, but i think that he just knows his audience, it just happens that the majority of his audience are hardcore kids, he just makes music they like. Hip hop fans have to realize that this music is no longer exclusive, everyone listens to hip hop now, even people who have never heard the names Rakim or Big Daddy Kane.
ALEX THE WORM KING!
ahh cage is all grown up now haha one of the realist rappers that ever lived! Hope he keeps dropping that awesome shit.
I wish Cage would peace it out with Necro and go back to rhyming on boombap beats with dope samples. I miss that Cage, sonically.
We all do but I would get really boring after a while imo 😩
@@crazyhiphopp Disagree, I'm bored of this satanic obsessed emo uber white boy vibe he's been on. I want those clever bars with a sick sense of humor he used to hit us with in the 90s and early 2000s, I want some emotional honesty like he gave us on Hell's Winter, I want to hear an ounce of passion and love for the culture he came from. I was willing to take the ride with him on both Depart From Me and Kill The Architect but I was hoping for a return to home but instead just about everything he has released since then has been a step too far in the wrong direction. I think he needs to get in touch with his Hip-Hop roots. I doubt Cage would ever see this, but if by any chance you're reading this Cage, just give us one more album of what us fans who been riding with you since Radiohead or even "Rich Bring 'Em Back" really wants! For Your Box, Porn Again, Movies For The Blind, Leak Bros, Hell's Winter... I'm not saying the lyrical content has to be the same as those but what we really want is something with that level of lyrical quality over some sick sample based boom bap... Preferably Necro beats 😉
@@GodlessG0D I’m going to be honest it won’t happen unfortunately I don’t know why maybe he’s matured in a way ? That’s just a guess I’m not sure
@@crazyhiphopp I think you're right about it not happening, but I got to keep the dream alive 😁 ... As for the maturity thing, I'm not so sure because all this "Sam Hill" Infernal Depths and Death Miracles music isn't giving me much of a mature vibe. I'm getting like an emo teenaged angst yearning to be edgy so I'm going to obsessively rhyme about worshiping satan kind of vibe.
@@GodlessG0D I can’t remember what interview but he said in one interview that he does that to appeal to a certain audience so maybe edgy teens 😂 no idea man sorry
For real... Cage is my hero.
Cage is one of my favorite rappers, and has been since I hheard agent orange, but he needs to cut this shit out and hook up with Necro again, fuck all this depressing shit
I see a tormented soul in his eyes.. I just want to hug him
𝚂𝚊𝚖𝚎 ☹︎
lol get a grip
it takes a lot of guts to come forth and admit his past faults, and that he was a confused white kid.
i respect cage 100x more now, this was great interview.
very interesting to see how cage has changed thru the years
I liked Hell's Winter at first listen. Scenester, Shoot Frank, Subtle Art of the Break Up. Good Songs
RIP CAMU TAI
Tao*
i cant believe cage is listening to Aceyalone in the background. thats a trip!
Anyone know what happened between cage and all his original crew?? Before he did his more emo/less hiphop based music
Camu died
Camu and tame died but copywrite still releases some dope shit, Yak is inactive and mr eon doesnt rap anymore and jakki is a real estate agent.
@@IWonTheArgument yak works for warner bros music in some manager position
@IWonTheArgument thanks for the Info. Why did cage stop hanging with them all though?
@@idontknowidontknow5360 copy had beef with the other weathermen dudes and got jumped by camu and cage, def jux split after camu died. Cage focused on his solo career!
Reminds me of Edward Furlong. Not sure if people have previously compared the two.
in my opinion,depart from me is his best work,and no im not emo,my wrists are scar free!im a pure underground hip hop junkie,i love his old work,but dfm is awesome,in my opinion of course
fuck that. the END ALL BE ALL is DEPART FROM ME. SOLID CLASSIC
Cage was trippin, he called using samples, "jacking people's music." Lol.
Yeah i agreed with him up tell that point he doesnt obviously understand production
No wonder his musics bad now
"a white man doing a black mans artform, thats not cool" Coming from a guy who used to drop n bombs left and right. He is mad trippin...
Whats the name of the song he's Rapping in the beginning
N.L.V Nightowl Subtle art of the breakup song
cage shold do a song with goertex
beautiful mind
By “3 melancholy gypsies”
yeah i've listened to all the new sam hill stuff, feels like he got scared because he doesn't have a real fanbase anymore and tried to please the movies for the blind fans, but i don't think he has it in him anymore
movies for the blind was sooo fucking good though..
and by 'the film' do you mean Clockwork Orange? cos the score from that film is sampled in Agent Orange, and he makes reference to it in the lyrics,,like 'Alex' is the main character in the film and his Droogs are his crew. sorry if i missed the point and you knew all that
I love me some Cage!!!
music is for everyone, and the motives of hip-hop have changed a little since the 70s/80s. along with the rest of the world =)
quality, cage looks like he is on the brown, lost abot 3 stone. a lot differnt to what he use to be, still up for him though
this is a progression...the guy got over a drug habit and now he's detached from his old self. He's found some peace and hes matured...respect that for what it is, whether you like it or not its not like he's gone commercial. Its real.
lol i remember his old stuff with eastern conference
its funny most those guys from the early 2000s arent even rapping anymore
And now 11 years later shiiiiit
I agree with him. Nobody has a problem with white rappers or non gangsta black rappers other than those perpetuating stereotypes.
No one uses the the term "wigger" other than those people. granted they're mainstream, u gotta respect acts like kanye and lupe for trying to show a different face of hip hop.
I'm sick of coming across ppl who say "i hate rap bc all they talk about is 'nigga nigga ,hoes and glocks'" and thats not what its about at all
the subtle art of the breakup song
ballad of worms isn't new cage, that shit is from 2002
SO on point!
MOVIES IS IN MY TOP 5 CDS EVER!
truer words have never been spoken.
amen bredren,
HP420
he is more like a emo rocker nowadays but i still have mad respect for him because of his older work, i don´t listen to him no more though
BRING BACK THE WORMKING!
Oh I totally agree. I'm a writer myself. I've been writing since I can remember, so I can definitely appreciate what you said there. I just mean't it as a skin colour thing. Reading that back, "music is sound" sounds kinda silly when I read what you put.. Music is definitely much more.
"go to his myspace"
ha ha ha
dude thinks he's beyond sampling. Yay. "Rap is an art,you can't own no loop,it's how you hook it up and the rhyme style troop."- Guru
Too bad Cage isn't more the guy i liked so much. I got so much memories to his music and his legendary album Movies for the blind. It's probably better for him this way, but i cant imagine a bigger transformation that what he did. Fucking hate it. Still listening to Movies for the blind though..
Feel you.
I honestly have no idea who this guy is got linked her thru Bluelight. Very interesting anyone have any particular good tracks to check out by him?
Agent orange, one of his oldest tracks. Classic.
@@Treaxvour word! Any more?
@@dylannicolodi4673 anything from Movies for the Blind, Hell's Winter, Leak Bros...
dope artist... through all the years all projects been real dont matter black or white stereotypes fuck em every project has been dope cant wait for new 2013 stuff thats coming out..kept it real when others didnt fa sho
woah. snap out of it Cage snap out of it. it's just a drug.
"getting edge ups like I was a black man"
"My black friends said speak about it"
Are you fucking kidding me, god, what happened to this guy
props to cage for telling it like it is... everyone should just be themselves
bro bros...all his music is dope c'mon..hes the same cage we loved theres no reason to hate
maybe it doesnt mean much to him because myspace is a mainstream tool (but also a tool for underground..im not sure how to explain it right)..hes makin music for himself n he doesnt care what the masses think but at the same time he appreciates the realness of a true fan at a show that wants 2 shake his hand...as an artist also, I respect props from someone i know or someone in person as opposed to someone who posted a comment.
im just putting this out there...I really dont know, great question.
As much as I've always admired cage's music, I just cannot get into his newer shit no matter how hard I try. I mean I respect him for getting sober and all, kudos to him for that, but I just don't understand why he'd WANT to lose all of his older fans. These so called "assholes" are the ones who've supported him from the inception of his music career. That's almost like looking up to someone your whole life, then that person turns and says "fuck you go away". That shits not cool, and as far as
i'm all for change, as in, getting better and not worse
cage is doing what he does best. keep it real and keep it to himself fuck features I like his comment on adding features to his albums
not for those who relate to him,its like therapy im new to this guy,but I listen 2 kid cudi all the time ,jis 1st 2 albums were great if he mad e more like that I wouldn't mind,becuas e I love it so much and relate so much.its like therapy.
and do the music you want to do at any given time
He looks a lot healthier now
whats wrong with the 90s?
Cage is dope.
Your wrong on so many levels. He doesn't dismiss his past at all, he grew up. He is being himself now, making the tracks he wants. This isn't a sell out because a new crowd likes his music. He just wants to be himself. Regardless, his lyrics are still tight regardless of if it's metal heads or hip hop heads enjoying it. In fact, the fact that the divide is being crossed between styles is a good thing for music as a whole.
I wanna see the raw tape on this.
whats the name of the song at the beginning? cant recognise the flow!?
thats some real talk at the end
i didn't said exactly what i was thinking ( language barrier) , but we are thinking the same ...
subtle art of the Breakup song from hell's winter
Why.
You can see that this man has really changed, i've been listening to him ever since I was introduced to Five Deez in 2001.
That's crazy man, you rock. Fuck the haters.
cage talks the real shit
nice one mate, off hells winter yep
all of cages music is new to me. so its easier to digest. the tribute to camu tao is fucken dope as hell. idk why his fans wouldn't like that song. but for cage to say perpetuating what a black stereo type is is just like saying that white people shouldn't rap. def jux are whiteboys with wider intricate views than most black rappers bring to the table.
Did Cage flip the script shortly after getting punched in that altercation with AOTP?
Really where did you here this ?
No lmao
and no i dont "know" cage, im just a fan or was a fan.
I respect cage, with that being said, I do believe he is facing a major identity crisis.I respect what he has done and what he is doing, but I understand why he is losing the hardcore heads that supported him out tha gate.DFM is creative BUT it lacks in a pure hip hop aesthetic. I doubt we will hear anything close to Hells Winter again.I heard major growth/progress in that album&it IMO is his best work2date. he has taken his newfound identity a bit overboard&is losing hisHIPHOP fanbase.OUCH
Subtle Art of the Breakup Song
I respect this
Oh snap it's the kid that played John Connor in Terminator 2
is that the guy from Simple Plan?
It is a black art form. It started around black people back in the day. Sugarhill Gang, Run RMC, Afrika Bambaataa... black guys.
And he probably doesn't think white people shouldn't rap because he is white. He's just doing his thing. He's admitting he's doing what predominantly black people do, but he doesn't seem to care. So why should you?
Wow. That was enlightening
Hes not speaking the same as in this interview - youtube = watch?v=m5uVN8-fLlc
Hrmmmm. I wonder when the interview Im talking about was done. Because if its AFTER this interview, then that doesnt make sense lol... If it was before, then yeah, I get it. But his dialect is extremely different in these two interviews. Its like night and day (no pun intended)...
REALLY SICK VIDEO
I don't like Cage's new shit, but that's just my opinion. I still got mad respect for the guy. He's easily one of the illest rappers I've ever heard!
I think he looks better but his music sucks now! Radio head,Agent and 4 letter are CLASSICS!
@NARTSIPACMIT I know this is 4 years old but your responding to thelegendpwk for WHAT???? what are you saying thats in response to him??????????????
Anyone noticed how Cage started acting like El-P around the time he swithced up his music style? If you watch The Home Movies or the Def Jux Tour DVD you can see how El-P talks the same way in interviews and even does the same facial expressions. Back then Cage had his own personality and way of talking.
I think El-P had a big influence on him.
And he seems more insecure in this interview than he ever did back in the day. I think he was depressed, drugged up and tired here.
@Bobbythehammer Precisely. Music is sound. You can't see music. Therefore, music doesn't have a colour.
it aint strange people complaining about his new style. i mean, these are his (former?) fans, who bought his albums, went to see his shows, people who related to him, people who put money in his pocket. Growth has nothing to do with it, he rapidly changed paths away from his fans who were with him on the road to damnation. And then suddenly cage wasnt there anymore. That false prophet chickend out. and he influenced/encouraged allot of people to follow in his footsteps and then he splits.
I would like to see eminem bite cage's style now, and see cage's reaction
lol this is why I like cage, dude keeps it real..not looking out to please every fucking body like a lot of sell out artists today..
oh how the mighty have fallen
Uh he said he's not a homosexual to prove the point that he doesn't care what other dudes think about the way he dresses or does his hair. Sexual orientation is not a minority group.
Wut song is dat?
same, i'm conflicted about this new shit.
I dig the new Cage. you gotta grow up sometime you know. Can't be rockin AF ones and throwback jerseys to work.
@doobbbb Thanks for the info. I knew it had to be before this one.