Having sold SBR for many years, it must be dry before skimming, preferably done the day before. PVA is water soluble, so can reactivate when skimmed on. SBR is far more stable, with many times the adhesive strength than PVA.
@@martynlegg1042 SBR isn’t tacky like PVA and hence you have more chance of the plaster sliding on the substrate and not gripping like it does with PVA especiallly on some paint types, also every plaster on TH-cam seems to think suction is a major issue to the point they need to kill it completely when infact a bit of suction can help adhesion to the substrate but SBR may help with extreme suction. Apart from drying times and the odd substrate that has cause excessive suction I’ve never seen the need not to use tried and tested PVA!
Sbr far superior especially as a sealer for suction control but needs to be applied neat as much more liquid like than pva and dries within the hour if neat, I use all time now as pva not great on high suction walls and sbr rubberises and provides 100% barrier and still grips
Nice one, thank you. I think that now I know the right way to apply it I will persevere with it and I may be an SBR convert...but the PVA is cheaper...!! 😉😂🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK hi there, pva is cheaper but sbr still goes fair way and only need 1 coat neat on any background even bare plaster where you would need least 2 with pva and still be fighting suction a bit, once you get used to it you’ll see the difference 👍
That's definitely an overboard job! As soon as I saw the peeling artex I wouldn't even bother trying to skim that ceiling. Good chance that will fail as soon as it's painted.
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK obviously it's more work and expense, but the finished job is much better. And no risk of it failing. I've been a plasterer for 35 years and believe me I've learnt the hard way🤣 it's soul destroying when you've skimmed a ceiling that looks great when it's finished but then it all comes crashing down when the bond below the skim coats fail, no amount of SBR or PVA will stop it. You can never account for a previous tradesman's quality of work. Artex was often used to cover up bad ceilings in older properties. And be careful because it can contain asbestos too.
Best go neat with sbr. Plasterers have for years been using product not specifically made for plastering pva and sbr. They kinda work but occasionally fail. Likely the paint you were going over will not absorb anything so neat sbr is needed or maybe thistle bond it / blue grit. But sometimes pain s inevitable
It doesn't matter what primer you use if it's still wet. you'rer going to have problems if it does strat to slide, leave it alone, and let 1st coat pick up. The more you play with it, the more it slids
Absolutely spot on! Total cock up on this one. I am so used to using PVA so the watered down (another cock up) SBR and not leaving it until the following day just made it an absolute fu...disaster!! 😉😂🍻🍻
A tone of work for very little reason mr. Sorry to say, you applied the bonding agent totally wrong.should have been left until dry then plastered.. preferably overnight Styrene Butadiene Rubber is not water soluble once it's dry were as poly vinyl acetate is especially if it comes into contact with excessive moisture. Pva is ok in the right setting...ive used both for years as a professional plasterer in both commercial and domestic settings. It works perfectly.. Artex is full of fine particulates including asbestos & cement so adding water to your gule will slow down evaporation prosses massively... Hence your multi finish will start turning to almost chewing gum like texture. Difficult to deal with. Even Bulegrit plasterers primer needs SBR applied on problematic & multilayer surfaces prior to plastering. Distemper requires stabilising solution left to dry then sbr... Lime finishes stay well away from any type of vinyl based adhesives After 28yrs on the trowel i often find it strange individuals somehow believe that "i can do that how hard can it be..." extremely hard. every trade is just that and should be treated as such...now its become a race to the bottom. You had a go regardless.. fair enough ive only chimed in, as i felt your assessment of the adhesive was based on incorrect management of the material.
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK Not a problem.. 👍 SBR & PVA both work well tried and tested for decedes,. plasterers grit is not a one stop shop like many believe and do have massive limitations and require more material to cover. Plastering is not a dark art it's always been about the "preparation" enjoy the journey. Once word of warning don't get wrapped up in the flexi-trowle syndrome it's easily done..all the best
Top tip and yes the instructions are not perfect. Will try it neat on the next bit. And I hate asbestos and how much there is basically everywhere...nightmare! But as you say, it's done now so hope it's all easy street from here on in...! 😉😂🍻
I knew there was more to it than what Matthew said. Sally couldn’t believe I didn’t read it myself. I said well he can read…!😬😂😂🍻 All part of the fun of it…I think..!🤔🍻🍻🍻
Enjoying the project but as a plasterer it gives me anxiety watching 😂😂 fair play for having a go. Next time just use the sbr neat. It will be dry by the time you've set up the rest of the gear. Even in winter its dry in around 30 mins. I haven't used pva for years 👍
Top SBR Tip - nice one! As Matthew did it it looked dodgy and I felt we were in trouble!! We were. It didn't dry at all and the plaster smeared rather than spread. It was the worst bit of plastering I have done. Ever. Shocking. I was so disappointed. Ah well...! 😉😂🍻
That is a great idea thank you for that. Hopefully I will never need to do that sort of ceiling again!!! But if I do I will give that a go! 😉 Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Sbr is by far better than pva but no water alway use sbr neat mate also added benefit of sbr is you can normally skim on to in 15/20 mins sum times with pva you can still be waiting for over an hour easy neat sbr you will never look back 👌
I sort of agree but I do know where I am with PVA - maybe I should persevere with SBR? And with my plastering I never look back...I look up and wear a hard hat...😂🍻🍻🍻
Sbr isn't designed as a plasterers primer. Neither is pva. we just use it, and to say a product is terrible when you don't know how to use it is crazy. The first thing is you didn't need instructions you needed experience always neat and if you can do it the day before even better. Sbr is 100% a better product for controlling the suction. If you do little hits, then pva is better as it drys faster, but if your 1 person throwing on 3 bags, a mix sbr is a god send
Paul - I reckon you’re spot on. That ceiling needed a long time to dry as it was as absorbent as plastic!! The dilute was a schoolboy error of reading the instructions!!! 😂😂🍻🍻🍻🍻
And don’t forget your only as good as the background your going on that artex looks like it may fail in the future it would have been easier to overboard with 9.5 and would have been easier for you to finish on too , with sbr your better off sealing the day before for best results 👍🏻
Top tip about doing the sbr the day before, thank you 🍻 - defo not the same as pva in that respect. I know what you mean with the boarding but I really didn't feel up to that one this time!! 😉😂🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUKI don’t use sbr for skimming myself as it’s sole purpose is for cementitious products , ie damp proofing slurry’s rendering,priming prior to self levelling floors etc etc, pva much better in my eyes 👍🏻
Ah! Now then, interesting! I have used pva a lot and it has worked for me and it is cheaper!! 😉 I will try with cement stuff as well in the future - top tips! Cheers 😉😂🍻
Cheers for the reply and the SBR v PVA seems to really prompt some definitely-this-one responses! I reckon you're right. I think this ceiling and diluting it was a recipe for disaster!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
I agree! I keep waiting to see painted fishes and sea horses in the corners...and a little algae at the bottom. I could have fun with that and could make it work. 😊
I know, it most definitely would but it just didn't want to dry. I think the paint on the ceiling had a shiny sealed finish and so with watered down SBR and that we be here for a week waiting for it to dry. So I thought, 'let's do it...what the worst that can happen...' I wish I didn't keep saying that...😉😂🍻
Mate, with all due respect for trying, you're doing it all wrong lol you dont look like you really know your drying times and materials. There are a thousand ways to get the plaster to pick up quicker. The sbr should have gone on neat which is not your fault as you followed the instructions but with experience you would have smashed that in a couple of hours. But fair play for trying. And lastly stick to a normal carbon steel trowel keep the flexi trowels away from plaster. But well done for trying
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and then comment - I really appreciate it! The time to try SBR was not on that ceiling with that awful thick, stippled, shiny paint. PVA and two skims is easy enough but that SBR was wrong stuff, wrong mix, wrong surface for me. Thankfully I won't be doing that again! The flexi was new so I wanted to try it but the plaster was off and wet in places so it was a disaster from start to finish. But it's done, it's ok and it was free...! 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Hi mate you did a good job going over that ceiling, I am a plasterer I would have boarded over it all day long. If the paint lets go of the all your hard work is down the pan SBR is for high suction backgrounds
PBJ all the way!!!. I don't know what in the Sam Hill this SBR stuff is, but it doesn't sound like it would make a good sandwich snack...just sayin' 😊 Even Elvis was partial to Peanut butter sammiches, but he liked sliced bananas on them. How strange is that!?! 😊 And by the way, the ceiling is looking good, really. The baseboards....hmmm, not so much! Sorry. But the blue has finally grew on me (like a tick or a mole or something) and then it goes from crisp white baseboards to a room that looks like it was painted in a fit of rage by a teenager. I'm just not seeing how or why or what the _____.!?!#$&! But then again, it's not my house and the lovely smiling Lady with the long legs can paint it anyway she so desires...I guess. LOL 🤣
Elvis! Legend! And just thinking about his fried sandwiches has my arteries furring up!!! The interior designer has a style that sometimes is ahead of the game and she showed me a new article saying that this is going to be all the rage!! I mean, what do I know?!! As she says...'not a lot!' 😉😂🍻
Y did u paint skirting blue looks crap no way allso y didn't u try 2 remove all of the after in kitchen ceiling or sand it i honestly thought it would come down please paint the skirt white it will b interesting 2 c if any one agrees 😂😂😂😂
Why people rave about SBR is beyond me it doesn’t go or stay tacky so it doesn’t give the plaster any key. In fact becafeful what you use SBR on because you skimming will slide on it and it will cause you loads of issues.
@@KiXa1 SBR when dry doesn’t emulsify like PVA hence it won’t be tacky and form a key hence why on certain substrates PVA is way better because there is less likely hood of the plaster rippling and moving about on the substrate.
Ok so that’s interesting! When I did it is was still wet and the plaster slid. It was a nightmare! But when it was dry it was ok. But, don’t tell anyone, I do still like PVA..!😉🍻🍻🍻🍻
I think my probs were because I tried to use it like PVA and didn’t give it long enough to dry. I do think both work but what the heck do I know…!!! 😉😂🍻🍻
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Let the sbr dry,put it on neat. Put a couple of handfuls of bonding into your first coat let it pull in and a quick skim over that.
Having sold SBR for many years, it must be dry before skimming, preferably done the day before. PVA is water soluble, so can reactivate when skimmed on. SBR is far more stable, with many times the adhesive strength than PVA.
Well I needed that info badly because let me tell you, wet SBR is bobbins for skimming!!
When I do the stairwell I will defo do that! Cheers! 😉🍻🍻
@@martynlegg1042 SBR isn’t tacky like PVA and hence you have more chance of the plaster sliding on the substrate and not gripping like it does with PVA especiallly on some paint types, also every plaster on TH-cam seems to think suction is a major issue to the point they need to kill it completely when infact a bit of suction can help adhesion to the substrate but SBR may help with extreme suction.
Apart from drying times and the odd substrate that has cause excessive suction I’ve never seen the need not to use tried and tested PVA!
Interesting! Good feedback, cheers. I must say I feel I know where I am with PVA!! 😂🍻🍻😂
You’re went over something like artex would just pva it the once and the bit you broke off twice as they suction would be different
Sbr far superior especially as a sealer for suction control but needs to be applied neat as much more liquid like than pva and dries within the hour if neat, I use all time now as pva not great on high suction walls and sbr rubberises and provides 100% barrier and still grips
Nice one, thank you. I think that now I know the right way to apply it I will persevere with it and I may be an SBR convert...but the PVA is cheaper...!! 😉😂🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK hi there, pva is cheaper but sbr still goes fair way and only need 1 coat neat on any background even bare plaster where you would need least 2 with pva and still be fighting suction a bit, once you get used to it you’ll see the difference 👍
@@Nofixedabode859 excellent recommendation! Nice one 🍻🍻🍻
That's definitely an overboard job! As soon as I saw the peeling artex I wouldn't even bother trying to skim that ceiling. Good chance that will fail as soon as it's painted.
I know what you mean! Looking back I think I would overboard it too!! 😂🍻🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK obviously it's more work and expense, but the finished job is much better. And no risk of it failing. I've been a plasterer for 35 years and believe me I've learnt the hard way🤣 it's soul destroying when you've skimmed a ceiling that looks great when it's finished but then it all comes crashing down when the bond below the skim coats fail, no amount of SBR or PVA will stop it. You can never account for a previous tradesman's quality of work. Artex was often used to cover up bad ceilings in older properties. And be careful because it can contain asbestos too.
@ 35 years! That is a lot of hard graft. Hats 🧢 off to you! 🙌🍻🍻🍻
@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK it is. I wish I'd listened at school🤣
Best go neat with sbr. Plasterers have for years been using product not specifically made for plastering pva and sbr. They kinda work but occasionally fail. Likely the paint you were going over will not absorb anything so neat sbr is needed or maybe thistle bond it / blue grit. But sometimes pain s inevitable
Nice one Iain. Thank you. I normally use PVA because it’s cheaper!! 😉😂🍻🍻
It doesn't matter what primer you use if it's still wet. you'rer going to have problems if it does strat to slide, leave it alone, and let 1st coat pick up. The more you play with it, the more it slids
Absolutely spot on! Total cock up on this one. I am so used to using PVA so the watered down (another cock up) SBR and not leaving it until the following day just made it an absolute fu...disaster!! 😉😂🍻🍻
A tone of work for very little reason mr.
Sorry to say, you applied the bonding agent totally wrong.should have been left until dry then plastered.. preferably overnight
Styrene Butadiene Rubber is not water soluble once it's dry were as poly vinyl acetate is especially if it comes into contact with excessive moisture. Pva is ok in the right setting...ive used both for years as a professional plasterer in both commercial and domestic settings.
It works perfectly..
Artex is full of fine particulates including asbestos & cement so adding water to your gule will slow down evaporation prosses massively... Hence your multi finish will start turning to almost chewing gum like texture. Difficult to deal with.
Even Bulegrit plasterers primer needs SBR applied on problematic & multilayer surfaces prior to plastering.
Distemper requires stabilising solution left to dry then sbr...
Lime finishes stay well away from any type of vinyl based adhesives
After 28yrs on the trowel i often find it strange individuals somehow believe that "i can do that how hard can it be..." extremely hard.
every trade is just that and should be treated as such...now its become a race to the bottom.
You had a go regardless.. fair enough
ive only chimed in, as i felt your assessment of the adhesive was based on incorrect management of the material.
Oh wow what a fantastic response- brilliant, thank you. I am going to keep a note of all that for future reference! Really appreciate that 🍻🍻🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK Not a problem.. 👍
SBR & PVA both work well tried and tested for decedes,. plasterers grit is not a one stop shop like many believe and do have massive limitations and require more material to cover. Plastering is not a dark art it's always been about the "preparation" enjoy the journey.
Once word of warning don't get wrapped up in the flexi-trowle syndrome it's easily done..all the best
Nice one Steven! Appreciate your help. Cheers 🍻 🍻🍻
Sbr no water needed let fully dry. The paint you are talking about is artex and high chance its asbestos. Fair play getting through it though.
Top tip and yes the instructions are not perfect. Will try it neat on the next bit. And I hate asbestos and how much there is basically everywhere...nightmare!
But as you say, it's done now so hope it's all easy street from here on in...! 😉😂🍻
SBR needs to be put on neat. Also that swirly paint is asbestos based artex. Be very cautious scraping it off without proper PPE
Top tips - great stuff thank you!
And I hope not...!! 😬🍻
Just put SBR on neat. I leave it to try over night. I Found it much easier than PVA.
I knew there was more to it than what Matthew said. Sally couldn’t believe I didn’t read it myself. I said well he can read…!😬😂😂🍻
All part of the fun of it…I think..!🤔🍻🍻🍻
Enjoying the project but as a plasterer it gives me anxiety watching 😂😂 fair play for having a go.
Next time just use the sbr neat. It will be dry by the time you've set up the rest of the gear. Even in winter its dry in around 30 mins. I haven't used pva for years 👍
Top SBR Tip - nice one!
As Matthew did it it looked dodgy and I felt we were in trouble!!
We were.
It didn't dry at all and the plaster smeared rather than spread. It was the worst bit of plastering I have done. Ever. Shocking. I was so disappointed. Ah well...! 😉😂🍻
Well great responses from tradesmen and I also agree SBR neat every time
@@mikeevans9062 I know. It’s great to get feedback and experience! And I shall mark you down as another neat SBRer!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
You should have painted your ceiling with blue grit,or thistle bond,and let dry overnight, then its a simple process, 2 coats of skim easy
That is a great idea thank you for that. Hopefully I will never need to do that sort of ceiling again!!! But if I do I will give that a go! 😉 Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Sbr is by far better than pva but no water alway use sbr neat mate also added benefit of sbr is you can normally skim on to in 15/20 mins sum times with pva you can still be waiting for over an hour easy neat sbr you will never look back 👌
I sort of agree but I do know where I am with PVA - maybe I should persevere with SBR? And with my plastering I never look back...I look up and wear a hard hat...😂🍻🍻🍻
Sbr isn't designed as a plasterers primer. Neither is pva. we just use it, and to say a product is terrible when you don't know how to use it is crazy. The first thing is you didn't need instructions you needed experience always neat and if you can do it the day before even better. Sbr is 100% a better product for controlling the suction. If you do little hits, then pva is better as it drys faster, but if your 1 person throwing on 3 bags, a mix sbr is a god send
Nice one Marty. And you're right when you're doing 3 bags you need all the help you can get!! [Or at least I do!] 😂🍻🍻🍻🍻
I found sbr was better applied the day before but do whatever fits your day plus I never water it down
Paul - I reckon you’re spot on. That ceiling needed a long time to dry as it was as absorbent as plastic!! The dilute was a schoolboy error of reading the instructions!!! 😂😂🍻🍻🍻🍻
@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK I learned by the same mistakes we've all been there my mate
I think so but I keep going back there too!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
That looked like a lot of HARD work. Well done!
Thank you. I am pleased that that came across on the video because it was [swear jar] awful!!
But it is done and we can move on - hurrah!! 😉😂🍻
I think you've misunderstood the difference between priming and bonding.
It is being added to my (very) long list of things I misunderstand 😉😂😂🍻
And don’t forget your only as good as the background your going on that artex looks like it may fail in the future it would have been easier to overboard with 9.5 and would have been easier for you to finish on too , with sbr your better off sealing the day before for best results 👍🏻
Top tip about doing the sbr the day before, thank you 🍻 - defo not the same as pva in that respect. I know what you mean with the boarding but I really didn't feel up to that one this time!! 😉😂🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUKI don’t use sbr for skimming myself as it’s sole purpose is for cementitious products , ie damp proofing slurry’s rendering,priming prior to self levelling floors etc etc, pva much better in my eyes 👍🏻
Ah! Now then, interesting! I have used pva a lot and it has worked for me and it is cheaper!! 😉
I will try with cement stuff as well in the future - top tips! Cheers 😉😂🍻
When Matt uses the SBR he puts it on neat and gets the plaster mix just right every time , perfect 😇and nothing in the swear jar 😂
Oh I know...he just changes his modus operandi when he does it with me...😉😂🍻
No downlighter holes yet? Or pilot holes
Oh yes! I have messed about doing the pilot holes and stuff but none of it was very good!!
No shocks there then..!😉😂🍻
I always think that white skirting boards look best........I'll get my coat.
I’ll meet you in the pub…😂
I didn’t say that…! 😉😂🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUKwho's buying? I'm coming too, but it'll take me awhile, I'm in Texas!
I’ll buy! 🍻🍻
SBR the day before mate it’s good.
Nice one! Trouble is I never manage to plan that far ahead!! 😉😂🍻🍻🍻
never scrape artex ceilings before doing a aspestos check
@@freshday633 wise words, wise words 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Never add water, neat Sbr will dry in about half hour.
Ah yes - I never normally read instructions...I guess that is why!!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
1 coat of sbr over ANY and ALL backgrounds and youre away - laying on within 20 mins. PVA - Nope.
Cheers for the reply and the SBR v PVA seems to really prompt some definitely-this-one responses! I reckon you're right. I think this ceiling and diluting it was a recipe for disaster!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
Take that brush off her before she paints anything else blue. Im surprised Matt isn’t a Smurf!
😬😂😂😂🍻 What are the chances of that..?!🤔😉🍻
I agree! I keep waiting to see painted fishes and sea horses in the corners...and a little algae at the bottom. I could have fun with that and could make it work. 😊
😉😂😂🍻
Was the Artex tested for a.c.m?
@@kf5541 do you mean aluminum composite material or asbestos? Either way I’ll give you two guesses 😉😂🍻🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK asbestos
@@kf5541 no so we took off the loose pieces, encapsulated it and held our breath…😬🍻🍻🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK you can buy test kits or arrange someone to inspect and test in future, always look after yourself my friend!
Thank you - great advice. I certainly wasn't going to sand it smooth!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
i think it maybe better if you let the SBR dry out :-)
I know, it most definitely would but it just didn't want to dry. I think the paint on the ceiling had a shiny sealed finish and so with watered down SBR and that we be here for a week waiting for it to dry.
So I thought, 'let's do it...what the worst that can happen...'
I wish I didn't keep saying that...😉😂🍻
SBR Neat
Spot on Rob! Never read the instructions..!!😂🍻🍻🍻
Sbr all day long, straight out the tub.
No watering down
Spot on - never read the instructions that tell you to dilute it...!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
Mate, with all due respect for trying, you're doing it all wrong lol you dont look like you really know your drying times and materials. There are a thousand ways to get the plaster to pick up quicker. The sbr should have gone on neat which is not your fault as you followed the instructions but with experience you would have smashed that in a couple of hours. But fair play for trying. And lastly stick to a normal carbon steel trowel keep the flexi trowels away from plaster. But well done for trying
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and then comment - I really appreciate it!
The time to try SBR was not on that ceiling with that awful thick, stippled, shiny paint.
PVA and two skims is easy enough but that SBR was wrong stuff, wrong mix, wrong surface for me. Thankfully I won't be doing that again!
The flexi was new so I wanted to try it but the plaster was off and wet in places so it was a disaster from start to finish.
But it's done, it's ok and it was free...! 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Lol
What he said … carbon steel all day long ☝️
Hi mate you did a good job going over that ceiling, I am a plasterer I would have boarded over it all day long. If the paint lets go of the all your hard work is down the pan SBR is for high suction backgrounds
@@damstv8717 cheers and I know…we could be wearing it as a hat soon!! I just couldn’t face boarding it!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
pva is king
@@freshday633 boom! Yes! 😉🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
I’ve been a plasterer for 26 years ide rather use pva never let me down💪
@@christophercutchey2793 boom! Yes! I’m 26 years (😉) behind you but I agree!! 😎🍻🍻🍻
love all your vids Nigel you should have more subscribers then you do /all the best mate give us a shout out/kev
Appreciate that Kev and very happy for you to share the channel 😉🍻🍻
And I will defo give you a shout out!!🍻🍻🍻
PBJ all the way!!!. I don't know what in the Sam Hill this SBR stuff is, but it doesn't sound like it would make a good sandwich snack...just sayin' 😊
Even Elvis was partial to Peanut butter sammiches, but he liked sliced bananas on them. How strange is that!?! 😊 And by the way, the ceiling is looking good, really. The baseboards....hmmm, not so much! Sorry. But the blue has finally grew on me (like a tick or a mole or something) and then it goes from crisp white baseboards to a room that looks like it was painted in a fit of rage by a teenager. I'm just not seeing how or why or what the _____.!?!#$&! But then again, it's not my house and the lovely smiling Lady with the long legs can paint it anyway she so desires...I guess. LOL 🤣
Elvis! Legend!
And just thinking about his fried sandwiches has my arteries furring up!!!
The interior designer has a style that sometimes is ahead of the game and she showed me a new article saying that this is going to be all the rage!!
I mean, what do I know?!! As she says...'not a lot!'
😉😂🍻
I am told it is called Colour Drench!!
Anything that has a title must be a 'thing'..!😉😂🍻
You have done something wrong beacause sbr is amazing 😂
Haha! Yes - we read the instructions...dilute it, it said...and with a totally non-porous ceiling, it was a nightmare!!! 😂🍻🍻🍻
Y did u paint skirting blue looks crap no way allso y didn't u try 2 remove all of the after in kitchen ceiling or sand it i honestly thought it would come down please paint the skirt white it will b interesting 2 c if any one agrees 😂😂😂😂
Ah now it sounds like you need to be brought up to speed with colour drenching!!
When it is all done then let me know what you think…😬😂🍻🍻🍻
@@EscapeToTheDreamHouseUK somebody else has agreed with me allready 🤣🤣
They won’t be alone but opinions seem split!! 😉😂🍻
FFS, overboard first, don't go fucking about with Artex and Sbr, crist a few bangs above and it will be down, give me strenth.
...now you tell me...! 😂🍻🍻🍻
Why people rave about SBR is beyond me it doesn’t go or stay tacky so it doesn’t give the plaster any key.
In fact becafeful what you use SBR on because you skimming will slide on it and it will cause you loads of issues.
SBR is by far better than PVA . Never had any issues
@@KiXa1 SBR when dry doesn’t emulsify like PVA hence it won’t be tacky and form a key hence why on certain substrates PVA is way better because there is less likely hood of the plaster rippling and moving about on the substrate.
Ok so that’s interesting! When I did it is was still wet and the plaster slid. It was a nightmare! But when it was dry it was ok. But, don’t tell anyone, I do still like PVA..!😉🍻🍻🍻🍻
I think my probs were because I tried to use it like PVA and didn’t give it long enough to dry. I do think both work but what the heck do I know…!!! 😉😂🍻🍻