MARSHALL JCM800 2203, JHS Angry Charlie V3 & FRIEDMAN BE-OD Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- How does the JHS Angry Charlie V3 & Friedman BE-OD pedals last alongside with a Marshall JCM800 2203 tube amp? With and without the BOSS SD-1 Super Overdrive.
The original footage of the EV intro clip was shot by Dennis Henson and KJ Melgoza. Thanks guys!
The song on the clip is 'Feed The Fire' from my solo album 'Easy Does It': spoti.fi/2S3owRZ
Timecodes:
- Intro: 0:00
- Introduction: 0:40
- Marshall HIGH input w/ SD-1: 2:33
- Friedman BE-OD into Marshall LOW input w/ SD-1: 3:33
- JHS Angry Charlie V3 into Marshall LOW input w/ SD-1: 4:31
- Marshall HIGH input: 6:22
- Marshall HIGH input w/ SD-1: 6:46
- Friedman BE-OD into Marshall LOW input: 7:08
- Friedman BE-OD into Marshall LOW input w/ SD-1: 7:15
- JHS Angry Charlie V3 into Marshall LOW input: 7:30
- JHS Angry Charlie V3 into Marshall LOW input w/ SD-1: 7:37
- All in a row w/ SD-1: 8:58
- All in a row without SD-1: 9:45
- Angry Charlie & BE-OD gain increased without SD-1: 10:25
- Marshall LOW input: 11:50
The gear used:
- ESP Japan Custom Shop Eclipse "Stickers / Shining"
- BOSS SD-1 Super Overdrive: bit.ly/3akY1iO
- Friedman BE-OD: bit.ly/2VkZ1gv
- JHS Angry Charlie V3: www.jhspedals.info/angry-charlie
- ISP Decimator Noise Reduction: bit.ly/33JLxyC
- Marshall JCM800 2203: bit.ly/2QLPPR2
- SUHR Reactive Load IR: bit.ly/3cxhEpj
- Avid Eleven Rack (as an audio interface)
- Logic Pro X
Musamaailma: www.musamaailma.fi/
ESP: www.espguitars.com/main
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Boosting a JCM 800 never gets old. The quintessential hard rock tone 🙌🔥
Exactly 👌💪😎.
until u hear an 80s mesa 😂
Just wanted to give a update from yesterday’s comment. I plugged into the low output of my Suhr SL67 plexi style amp. I put my Freedman Buxom Boost in the low output and turned up the boost to almost halfway and Wow!!! The AC/DC- Zeppelin-ie Brown Sounds just poured out. I was stunned. I have been after theses tones for years and have spent thousands of dollars over time. I am very happy with my tone now and just wanted to say Thank You again for posting this video. It may seem like a small thing but it was HUGE to me!! You have a friend for life😂. God Bless and take care👍👍
Oh that sounds great indeed man!
And thanks for your info & comments! 👌
As an 800 owner searching to enhance my tone -- much appreciated for this video!
Glad to hear! Thanks!
Wow..another killer demo..these tones are off the hook man..but its your killer riffage that makes it shine.. great job man..thanks again..👍🙏
Thanks man! \m/
Excellent video! Very informative comparison and terrific playing.
Thanks! Glad to hear!
This sounded great. I think I know why you like the Friedman. It adds clarity and attack but retains the sound of the marshall. I like it. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Exactly 👍😊
Finally! A demo of the JHS Angry Charlie and Friedman OD used as a boost pedal! Every demo that I've seen on TH-cam are using these pedals into a clean amp. My only criticism of this video is that I wish you could make your voice clearer so I can hear what you're saying better. It sounds like the high frequencies was dial down. Great tone by the way!
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Thank you very much Euge. This video was very helpful! I'm looking for a decent drive to play metal that I can carry around to play live and be "consistent" somehow. It never occurred to me to boost a BE-OD or an Angry Charlie. You actually gave me a few ideas to experiment. Again, thank you! And greetings from a Venezuelan lost in Ecuador.
Thanks man! Glad to hear!
I subbed because I enjoy you videos and the way you talk abot the gear and all the other stuff
Cheers, mate
Oh cool! Thanks Filip!
Man I love that tone. Nothing beats that Marshall 800 tone.
I've learned so much information watching your channel.
Thanks Euge for sharing your knowledge
Thanks man! Glad to hear that!
Indeed💪.
@@EugeValovirta230V hey i wach u video and a buy the BE-OD amazing pedals also o buster with a BB-Preamp and it sound really good also more sustain, nice chanells brother cheers from New Jersey!!!!!
Cool!
I ordered the BE-OD deluxe because of your videos :)
Oh cool! 👌😊
Just listened to this and I have the Freedman-any the SD1pedals and a plexi style amp. That being said I have never run through the low input side. I will give it a shot. Thanks for mentioning that. 👍
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I have the same set up. Absolutely love it!!!!
Your one of those youtubers thT can make any amp or pedal sound incredible. Good job lol
Like with every player the sound comes from the hands and amps amplify that & pedals boost, delays etc. that 👌😎. But thanks man! Glad to hear! 🙏
The Angry Charlie is my fave. I have their AT-2 which is the best distortion pedal I've ever owned. I'm a big believer in pedals through a good pedal platform like a Marshall, Fender or Peavey Classic.
The AT-2 is great indeed.
My live rig is based on pedals ’cos then you can get your tone basically with any amp that has a decent clean channel: I got bored on crappy od channels with rental amps (especially on summer festivals ’cos they’re used by everyone and the tubes are usually quite done on od channels especially on metal festivals 😎).
I already like the video after 20 seconds as I own Boss SD-1 (my favourite OD), Friedman BE-OD + JHS Angry Charlie :D
Cool! 😎👌🙏
They all sound pretty great to me. The riff is killer.
They do. Thanks! I think I have to make a full song out of it 👍😊
Good comparisons! Alone, the Angry Charlie sounds more chewy (like a Bogner) and the BE-OD sounds a little clearer and more compressed (like a Friedman...go figure!). The SD-1 engaged seems to level the playing field a bit. Using the low sensitivity input is a great tip.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
Indeed 😎👌.
Thanks man! I've been looking for a JCM Pedal under $200 US and a demo with licks similar to what I'm playing. A Friedman paired with my EQFH...yes! I'm gonna grab one and get back to you.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
They all sound amazing, you should do something with that riff geez that was good. The pinch is as perfect as it can be. And also, cool guitar 😁
Thanks!
Actually working on that riff at the moment and making it full a song most likely for my second solo album ;-)
@@EugeValovirta230V cant wait 😍
Great comparison!
Thanks Jim!
Euge Valovirta You've definitely earned a new subscriber here! One idea I'd love to see is how different OD pedals push a high gain preamp. Kind of like what you did here with the SD-1 but also with a TS, Klon, and Bluesbreaker style drive!
Cool! Really glad to hear that! Great idea Jim! I’ll add it on my to do list 😊👍
Hello Euge, how are you? What would you say would bring me closer to a real amplifier sound on the computer: softube marshall jmp 2203 or Friedman BE-OD connected directly to the interface and adding an IR to it as the only post pedal process (both cases would be pushed with a sd-1 boss) Thanks for your time Euge.
Killer RIFF !!
Thanks!
Cool my dear friend!!!!
Thanks!
First thanks alot for the amazing content, I like your tone! You rock man! Thinking abour getting the be od but I v red reviews saying that is a noisy pedal compared to other amp in a box pedals...how true is that ? What is your experience with the be od is it really excessively noisy ?
Awesome tone🙃🙃
Thanks! ☺️
very good vid! thanks! It will be interesting to compare this pedals with jcm800 but put them into different amp, something with 6L6 tubes and clean channel with the same cab (IR). Because any overdrive/dist pedal that boosts preamp of jcm800 sounds like jcm800, no suprises))
The BE-OD has an insane amount of gain available. I noticed you have it dialed way down and I can understand why. Can you tell me if you made any adjustments to the internal gain adjustment or is it the factory setting? Thanks for the video.
It has indeed. Yeah I have the internal gain knob at 10:00 o’clock.
Thanks!
Friedman sounds best even without head phones, kick ass channel.🤘🤘🤘
Thanks! 🙏
i really like the tones you get! the only thing i would like for a guitar sound comparison: get the drums a bit quieter in the mix. The cymbals wash a lot over the guitars.
Thanks! Note taken 😊👍
Cool channel: subbed :D
Thanks man! 🙏
I'm surprised you haven't used JB Weld on the SD1 knobs to lock 'em in place, I feel for a man who has nailed his grail sound and doesn't want it changed! BEOD for the win on this one. I might have to order it again... Thanks, as always Euge; you're a good guy and a great guitarist.
I dial the knobs everyday for different sounds with different guitars, pickups etc. to get the sound I have in my head on any given day with all gear.
You’re welcome 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V your sound always sounds good....I just know how difficult it is to tweak that last iota of sound and feel out of my pedals. You've definitely nailed it.
Thanks man!
OMG!!!! after all this 10 years ive seen angry charlie demos...this is the one that sound good...all of demo in YT sound bad and in this 10 years i tought this pedal was suck so i never try it for myself, i better try one if theres still out there
Cool! 😎 I think they’re still available 👌
Great music, great tone. Love your ESP guitars! Are those stickers and clear coat, or just stickers?
Thanks! Glad to hear! Just stickers 😊.
KILLER RIFF
I know 😊. Thanks!🤘
Great demo. That riff is HEAVY
Thanks! Here’s the full song: th-cam.com/video/HGAw0qXfoUs/w-d-xo.html
As always, Euge, SICK TONES!!!. Loved the JHS!. Have you tried out the boss Angry Driver?.
Thanks man!
No I haven’t.
@@EugeValovirta230V I'd love to try one out. It'd be cool to see you doing a vid with one.
Curious... Did you put the pedals thru the return of the fx loop so that the Marshall 2203 pre-amp section was removed from the chain? I believe this would be the objective method of comparison b/t the boosted pedals and the boosted Marshall. Cheers.
There’s no effect loop on these original 800’s so no 😊. I used just the low input of the amp. Didn’t I explain that on the video? 😎
Thanks Euge.. I learned alot from your videos..
Question. What are the EQ settings for the clean channel, if your running the Friedman into the front? Thanks again.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
No idea. Whatever sounds good on any given day 👌. If it feels there’s too much low end - dial it back, too muddy - dial mids back a bit and dial in more top end etc. I pay zero attention to where the knobs are and just use my ears ’cos I can’t hear a s%#t with my eyes 👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks
ill try to boos this set up i have boss sd and be od as well see what happens, i never thought of it to boost it.... thanks man
Cool! It’ll be great. Just like you’d boost a preamp of an actual amp 😎👍
Great Demo! Which pickups are you using?
Thanks! EMG 81 & 85
Zakk Wylde and BLS style ) great. Sound amazing!
Thanks a lot!
Euge! What are your settings on your JCM800? Love your videos man, thank you!
No idea how I had them on this video. In general I don’t pay any attention where the knobs are but just use my ears ’cos I can’t hear anything with my eyes 😎👌.
Kinda like this:
- th-cam.com/video/vCxlsdErftk/w-d-xo.html
- th-cam.com/video/pw4l94LFznk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks man! Glad to hear!
Awesome video. What was amp settings? Was hard to see what they where? I may go with the be-od with my Zakk wylde z44
Thanks! Oh I have no idea. It changes day by day / song by song etc. what I’m looking for. Whatever sounds good you know 🤟👌😎
Ok didn’t know if it was flat to demo what the pedals can do or what the clean was set at
That’d be insanely loud and quite harsh too. Passive eq like on most amps only cuts so when everything is set to 10 the amp is flat.
is there any real difference between running in frot of the amp on the clean channel vs going into the power amp section through the effects return?
Yes. ’Cos of the reasons you wrote 👌🤟. In front of the amp there’s the amp’s pre-amp & power amp involved and into the loop there’s only the amp’s power amp involved so the difference could be quite big, or small, depending on the amp.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks!! Awesome video! They’re all great! You make me want to trade in my ds100 and just man up and get a jcm800 🔥
Hello Euge, how you set the knobs of the JCM 800 in the low input when you use distortion pedals?
By ear to get a tone I’m looking for / to get the sound in my head. I pay zero attention to where the knobs are ’cos I can’t hear anything with my eyes.
@@EugeValovirta230V mmm understood. I thought you were able to hear with your eyes; with that face and that ability I had a job proposal ready for you at the Cirque du Soleil. see ya!
Thanks! You have to compare 80's Guv'nor to the 800!!!
Yeah it’d be cool! Thanks man!
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Is that a modded 800? Did I miss that? Sounds awesome by itself. Great content.
Nope but it’s a bit special. Here’s a few videos about the subject if you’re interested:
th-cam.com/video/5I6nTYCEpVs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/5s-Dd9C-tno/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/_OSB1TkIx3o/w-d-xo.html
It does indeed. Thanks!
@@EugeValovirta230V awesome! Thank you!
Cool! You’re welcome!
Hi Euge, great Clip again 😁😁😁😁 can You make a Clip for the angry charlie alone ? With an amp and iconoclast? I Got one and on recordings it hast much to much mids..... maybe i Do something wrong ...... Thanks a lot .
Greatings from Germany
Thanks! I’m not sure if I have the Charlie anymore but I’ll check it out 😎.
are you saying that you can use the Friedman as a Amp modular? like connect it directly to a console and it has enough drive-gain etc? cause it seems your connecting it to your 2203 no?
It’s labeled ”just” as an overdrive but it serves as a preamp really well too. Putting it directly to a console? It sounds like preamp sounds into console 😎. ”Quite interesting” if nothing else 😁.
@@EugeValovirta230V well first off, I have to thank you for taking time out to write, the reason I am asking is because you stated that some of these pedals can sound very close to the JCM800 and from watching the video I cant tell if your bypassing the jcm800 when talking about the pedals or talking about the pedals been only used to boost the jcm800 and nothing else.
Thanks man! It’s been a while since I made the video and unfortunately don’t remember the details 😎.
Hey really like your vids, have you ever tried running your amp set to a mild overdrive and then use more gain from the pedal so you could run a delay in front of an amp that has no fx loop. I’ve seen Zack Wylde use a carbon copy in front and he’ll just use it for leads which is mostly what I would use a delay for.
Thanks! That’s exactly what I do always 👍😊. But I use the delay in that scenario mostly for cleans and probably throw the delay in at the end of solos cos it gets kinda disturbing if it’s on all the time on solos in this scenario. Or then I don’t use it all and just tell FOH to add some delay to my leads and cleans 😊
Hey Euge sounds great! What is your Friedman trim pot set at?
Thanks! 10:00 o’clock
@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks for the reply and am going to move mine from 9 to 10 o’clock!
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@@EugeValovirta230V 🤙🏽
As a suggestion if you run the distortion pedals through the efx loop it will bypass the amp tone and utilize the pure pedal tone while using the Marshall's cab for a 1:1 ratio comparison. 🤓
No effects loop in original 800s from the 80s :)
@@michaelgiuffre7837 Ty...I can imagine the reissues had a effects loop which was the obvious mod. 🤔
@@JBG949 yep reissues have one. I could have sworn his is from the 80s but if it’s a reissue please ignore me! I have an 87 and had an 84 previously. No effects loop :(
No worries I do have a Jhs angry Charlie v3 it is quite useful with the active 3 band tone stack it's literally 90% to a 1:1 ratio cheers from Newport Beach, CA. 🤙🏿🌊 @@michaelgiuffre7837
The SD into 800, is my favorite. The ESP is hot, so it will make a difference to own one. Lol.
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What’s the tuning on your guitar Euge?
I think I used Drop-Bb on this one. At least it sounds like that 😎.
JCM800 + mini jcm800 (AC) in a box! 👏🦡
Indeed!
Have you tried them all with a klon type pedal instead of the sd?
I don’t have one so no 😎. But I bet they’d sound awesome with that type of pedal too. The low end most likely wouldn’t be as tight and the mids not that pronounced.
@@EugeValovirta230V interesting! i did order a ts808 mini to pair with me angry charlie v3, that should do the job right? just to get the ball rollin, how would you recommend setting the tube screamer? your guitar tone is awsome!
Yes, the ball will roll 😎💪.
Thanks!
I usually have the Level around 4:00 o’clock, Tone around 1:00-2:00 o’clock and Gain around 08:00 o’clock. This way the OD boosts the amp / pedal quite a lot, adds bite and just a little bit of clipping gain which is 👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V very cool!! And I'm guessing the tube screamer goes before the angry charlie!! Thanks man, very helpful info here!
@@grahamkelly8299 Yes. That way it boosts the AC like it would boost an amp ;-). You're welcome Graham \m/.
800 lead Sirius best amp ever made. Carnt say much for all the new ones from china thow. Good video
No idea about that but all 800 2203s are still made in UK. Thanks!
That guitar is so beautiful that I failed to concentrate about the difference 🧐
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Cool vídeo! Drop D?
Thanks! Oh man I don’t remember what I had cos it’s been a while since I did the video but ”from the hip” I’d say Drop-Bb 😎.
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Plug into a clean fender and see how close they are to a Marshall.
Pretty close. I’ve played many shows with a Friedman into a Fender Twin and a few times even with Shining and people were quite blown away by the sound and especially when they realized that I’m playing with a Fender combo 😊.
You sounds great, strong and massive like Zakk, but why your settings always has 100500 tons of highs and sand? It’s not good for your mix, for your and followers ears too
Thanks! I like the guitar tone to be in your face, mean and aggressive 😊. May I ask what speakers you use? With my Genelecs the sound is just fine and some of the sounds / settings are exactly the ones I’ve used for example on Cyhra’s albums. I mean I haven’t dialed my sound to be listened with laptop ”speakers” but with real ones 😊. And I’m not saying that you use those cos I don’t know 😎
@@EugeValovirta230V It sounds great to my ears, so it's probably the speakers that cause your ear discomfort.
@@rudolfo211 Thanks Marc. One of the reasons is maybe cos I don't use any post processing (EQ, compression etc.) on these videos 'cos I want the gear to sound like it sounds "au naturel" :-). When I'm doing demos /recordings etc. and mix the guitars "properly" I usually add low and high pass filters to cut out the unnecessary low end and that high end sand.
@@EugeValovirta230V I think that's the most reasonable approach what you do. We want to hear how the gear sounds raw. Otherwise, it could be a little misleading. By the way, it's me, Marcus. :)
@@rudolfo211 I agree. That's what I wanna hear when I check out gear demos 'cos it's exactly like you said IMO too :-) Oh hi! :-)
...Nah, decent but can't touch that beast of an amp.
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