Fantastic documentary. This is the Glasgow I remember. It brings back memories of coming of age. The 1970s weren't perfect (no time was perfect) but I'd go back there in a heartbeat and never return. I wonder if anyone recognises themselves or any of the supporters on the terracing?
Thanks Steve, a fascinating slab of Scottish history, which was by turns; disturbing, enjoyable and nostalgic. I particularly enjoyed the footage of proper tackles and players getting up immediately or staying on their feet, a bygone era indeed.
Cliff Hanley huffing and puffing was getting on my nerves. I grew up in the 60's in the East End and Celtic were my local club so I supported them. My work-mate out of Bell Street Cleansing Depot at the time of this programme was an Orangeman who played in the band. He was a god guy -always had a laugh with him and I know he had Catholic friends. He and I would go to the games, sing our songs - at opposite ends of the ground - and then be pals at work on the Monday. What was the problem? To-days hypersensitive snowflakes outraged at everything get on my nerves much more than old Cliff Hanley.
Well said my man special snowflake syndrome they call it can’t be doing with none of them they’re the problem if you ask me they and watch a film called am I racist you’ll see the hypocrisy in the modern era
“Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting. GEORGE ORWELL (in "The Sporting Spirit", Tribune, GB, London, December 1945)”
As Steve indicates with his intro words, 95% of the comments below show that not much has changed in the past 40 years sadly but it was certainly an interesting watch. I support one of the Glasgow big clubs but I'll think I'll keep which one to myself. Happy I live 14,000 miles away where if someone asks you what school you went to it is because they are actually interested. I still find that refreshing ands a way better place to bring up my kids.
Eastern Australia by any chance??? Theres idiot football fans in every team in the world in afraid regardless of religion. Some of the south american derbies are just pure violence and the football comes second. Although your second from bottom line is spot on mate.
Thanks for putting this up.It's fascinating to see Glasgow back then and this has always been one of my favorite documentaries on any subject. It used to be hosted on the celticunderground page video section but sadly they no longer host it. I bought a dvd rip for it online but the quality is so poor it's virtually unwatchable. Hopefully it gets more of the attention it deserves. It's finally got an imdb profile now which is long overdue. Thanks again,
It's a good piece of documentary filmmaking. They don't or can't make them like that anymore. Look at the first couple of minutes and notice how there's not a word of dialogue. Slower pace than the break neck crap we see so much of on TV now.
I agree its a marvellous insight into the time, I notice how articulate everyone is, the emphasis on learning and manners comes out. Particularly Jimmy Reid , who would come form a long line of self educated shop stewards.
@@J.D.1. called, The Rangers, since we were born look at any Rangers program, from the 20’s till present day. Our name was The Rangers, check yer facts Sméagol before trying to be clever. We are Rangers, have been before Celtic popped up and stole 7 of Hibs best players in the same year as Jack the Ripper popped up. So Ironic The Rangers will never die so listen Pacific Shelf. Check yer own degenerate history before talking nonsense.
I was born and raised in Edinburgh, and I still have no clue as to why the Irish got such a raw deal when they arrived in Scotland. The whole concept of the sectarianism just seems absurd to me. A great many people in the world find it difficult telling the Scots and the Irish apart, yet somehow, someone found the need to prolong a pointless and ridiculous divide.
Economic more than anything. When the recession hit suddenly there were Irishmen taking jobs by offering to do them half price etc etc. It's well documented. Also, after 400 000 Irish folk from the south came in those decades, another influx from the north came, both Catholics and Prods, and that was about the time the economy dipped, and just in time for the division to manifest itself. Not to mention that Protestants were the majority of the city and never wanted to live amongst Catholics, hence Catholic slums for Irish immigrants and highland Catholics, Gorbals, Calton , Gallowgate, Garngad. The seeds were sewn right away, it just took time to happen, and when it, it just got worse and worse. All over religion, how retarded.
Don't remember it being acceptable, the opposite. Just went on behind closed doors. Go look at the papers 175 years ago, plenty jailed. But not enough was done to root it out. Not sure it's a whole lot better in 2024.@@AIJimmybad
Poor women and kids had very few rights until relatively recently so they were subject to brutalisation in all manner of ways. Most people born in the 21st century don't have to worry about this anymore.
Everyone here commenting on the bigotry from their partisan perspectives, but the saddest realisation as a Scottish football fan is brought home at 5:24 when stein talks about how 2 top teams in one city are the envy of Europe...we'll never see that in Scotland again.
I stopped watching Rangers after the Cup Final riot of 80, sick of the agro and the violence. That was a rough day and an even rougher night getting back to Glasgow Central. My memories are stuck in the time warp of the 70s good and bad. It was.a different time, very different people both green and blue. Unfair to judge the folk back then with today’s hypocrisy. What an incredible documentary.
Thanks for this.....a Sassernach who comes in peace.....enjoyed this video. I dont follow either team of course but I think Scottish people should put aside the hatred and be glad they have two great football teams in Rangers and Celtic
Nicky Killen Good spot. ..the great maverick old timers from Reading tell me he was up there with Tony Currie and Stan Bowles.....playing for lower league team means there is little recorded footage of him playing. ...
You've probably seen this, but if you haven't it's well worth a read... The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw The Robin Friday Story By Paul McGuigan, Paolo Hewitt
You've probably aware of this having RF as your avatar, but if you haven't The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw The Robin Friday Story By Paul McGuigan, Paolo Hewitt Is a great read.
Absolutely amazing historical education into the past and the future. To truly grasp the scope and true dedication that a fan feels for his club can only be understood by an equal and almost fervant understanding of the past and ones connection to it. As complex and diverse as DNA is to modern science. Let us not forget that every rung of this society are equally educated on the past and the future and their place in it. Regardless of race, religion,monetary wealth or Royal lineage. By their exceptance in it. Without this loyalty to their clubs society as we know it would collapse into utter chaos. These football clubs are the glue that binds these societies making them proud to be a part of it and not be ashamed of what layer or fabric of it they came from. Hence the phrase the 40's, in America they would think the 1940's in Europe they look at a century as if it was yesterday! Wake up and truly be proud of who you are regardless of race, religion or status. Never be ashamed hold your head high and be proud and respect other people's right to do the same. It would make the world a better place. Go LIV ERP OO L = Liverpool F.c!
God, I wish that Stein had gone into politics -He had a clarity that was profound -coupled with common sense and an intellect that belied his humble beginnings.
My respect for German television has just shot through the roof; this was a great documentary that sought only to report on the clubs, and not to exploit the divide for their own interests (unlike our own domestic broadcasters of the time - the BBC and ITV).
back when Your ground was chosen for you because of where you were born. And then you stood on that ground come hell or high water. Both sides said we are the people.
Jimmy Reed was a great scot, as a Liverpudlian we have a real infinity with Glaswegians, partly, as Jimmy says himself, the working class were made up of Irish, both Catholic and Protestant. Liverpool and Everton share a similar history, Liverpool being formed by an Monaghan protestant and Everton by Dominican brothers...but the bond is in its people and that is clear when you go to both cities.
I noticed the bus thing when i first went to watch the fitba,back in mid seventies,green white n gold,then years later all turned to orange,anybody shine any light on that one?❤
It's a love hate relationship with most supporters. We love our friends but we hate there team and that's were the term 90 minute bigot come's from as supporters scream sectarian abuse at each other from opposite sides of the terraces. Then back to being friends, once the dust has settled. But their is still a dark side and it's very much alive and thriving in the shadows. You don't stray from the path on your way home from the football, as their is bad people lurking in the shadows. If you stray off the path you mite just find yourself waking up in either heaven or hell? Be safe and stay on the path!
Jim Ramsey rangers to a greater extent as encapsulated perfectly by the contrasting outlook of both managers at the end. Rangers FC ARE bigotry, and really always will be.
I've always wondered why so many celtic fans are bitter, and spend so much time hating Rangers. This one sided, bias, excuse for a documentary, explains it to a certain extent. C Hanley's (full of descrepences) rant, proves he's part of the problem, that he's (very badly) trying to describe!
Steve Birrell it's biased and so are you, if you can't see it. Rangers did sign Catholics. Celtic were the only team founded on sectarian principles. (For the Irish Catholics.) To stop them going to the church of Scotland soup kitchens! Rangers were founded for the love of the game, & nothing to do with religion.
I can't imagine that back in 1974 the world-famous mighty Glasgow Celtic 1888 would have considered surpassing the combined trophy haul of the old RFC and Rangers 2012, a truly fantastic achievement, albeit no one could have predicted the death of the old RFC in such a publicly humiliating manner after the begging bowl CVA was rejected.
Merseyside Derby is the only football match in Britain that doesn’t demand a physical division between both sets of fans. Yes it’s typical to stand with your own fans and sing the same songs etc. but in Goodison Park or Anfield it’s not implemented like every other football match in Great Britain is. I’m proud of my city. 🙏☘️
im a celtic fan, and not really bigoted, but the different attitudes displayed between the celtic and rangers chairmans are indicative of the difffering attitudes of the fans of both clubs. complete opposite ends of the political and social spectrum
Ah, in fact we don't vote for the same parties, do we? Come on... the Tories are NOTHING in Scotland... Rangers is the majority of Scottish support, so is Scotland a Tory stronghold? Stop making no sense. An ordinary Rangers Labour man.
What a find this is , what YpuTube was made for Fantastic to see places i know, i remember all buildings were black with soot Stephen, Glasgow 15:22 Pinkston Road high flats where i lived 4 miserable years😂
Willie Waddell-the rangers manager at this time-is not sober at any point in this documentary. Contrast this with the great Jock Stein-concise , intelligent, insightful. Also absolutely superb social commentary by the legendary Jimmy Reid and Cliff Hanley. The last images tell all-Waddell, drunk, confused, unsure. No wonder that club died!
Stein was a teetotaller, he also had no religious bigoted view, he was happy for celtic boys club to be open to everyone, that helped jim torbett carry on regardless of whose future football career he was choosing to ruin. May god forgive him and stein. Scum of the earth.
And he was a Rangers man. But we're still 'fascists', aye... Jimmy knew about Scotland and its people 10000 times more than most of the Celtic supporters nowadays. Living in mind ghettos is no help at all.
He was one of the smartest people Scotland ever produced. I respected him for his humanity and intelligence tho I disagreed with much of his politics. Born to be a leader but never was.
@@Secular_Scot This is the typical Celtic way of distorting reality. There's little to do with the likes of yous. Jimmy Reid was a Rangers man, just accept it, he said that himself. Glasgow is a working-class left wing city,, accept that... Ibrox people vote for THE SAME PARTIES YOU VOTE FOR, take a look at the polls, please, instead of showing us 'the world as interpreted by Celtic fans'........... unfortunately, Rangers fans vote mostly for the SNP, same as you do now... and Gers fans used to be Labour voters same as you were... sometimes I think you don't really live in Glasgow, based on the fact you keep telling lies... the Protestant/Catholic thing has NOTHING TO DO with left/right... it started as a 'war between the poor', because both the Scottish Protestants and the Irish Catholics were working-class people FIGHTING FOR THEIR JOBS... All the fuss you keep making about fascism and the BNP at Ibrox is such an utter lie it just blows up on its own, I won't even waste time in replying here. By the way, being BRITISH is much more leftist than being NATIONALISTIC... you will always carry on with your infinite sense of the Irish being repressed by the Brits (and the Scots), well do it, whatever you do will one day have to face the facts of life itself. I'm Rangers and I'm proudly British Labour, no way I'll ever vote for the SNP, though it's becoming some kind of vogue both at Ibrox and at Sellik Pork. Keep confusing FOOTBALL RIVALRIES with POLITICS as you Sellik lads always do, you always miss the point... if we wave the Union Jack and sing 'sectarian songs' is just because that's the only way YOU'LL GET OFFENDED!!! Same as when you wave the tricolour and your own sectarian songs... it's NORMAL BANTER... not politics...
The potato crop didn't failed. English imperialism meant a shortfall for the native people to the point where it felt like a famine. The English, as in many parts of the globe, the instigators of human misery.
@@bfc3057 yes, but the potato crop was the most important. No i dont agree, I live in Europe and for a long time, people know the Scottish contribution and the football is still considered exotic, people respect it.
"I am not Celtic, Celtic is me. Celtic dream me and I dream Celtic. I eat Celtic for lunch and Celtic eats me for dinner. If Celtic are my shoes, I am Celtic's feet" - that boy's a riot.
The Scottish Labour party decimated Glasgow with their socialist brutalist concrete landscaping and North Korean style tower blocks. Celtic and Rangers football clubs at least gave a day out away from the damp mouldy social housing built on behalf of the Labour party. Many towns in the west coast had their heart ripped out by Labour.
@@erniemccracken2429 Not just that either. Partick Thistle and Queens Park were big clubs then in Glasgow. Then there were lots of smaller football venues and City Council football areas. Take them all into account and they might well have the capacity for nearly half of the city
He never said Celtic park holds 40% of the population Clean your ears out He clearly said all the football stadiums in Glasgow can hold 40% of the population There was 5 stadiums in the City at the time Do the maths Oh I forgot maths isn’t your strong point One of the reasons your club did you tube HH 🍀
You have to laugh at the obsessed Sevco fans clambering over each other to spite their bile be careful as to not let any on yourself as I'm not sure if its contagious and I don't want to find out. Their inane ramblings are non coherent and frothing of the mouth are classic symptoms of rage!
Hope there ain't too many feminists watching this. The way he talks about domestic violence in such a nonchalant fashion shows how far we have come from the 1970s.
yep, how can anyone be nostalgic for 1970's Glasgow? Neds is a good film depicting the dismal life chances of these people as well as the alcoholism and domestic abuse.
Good old Scottish style socialist there at 13 minutes - a mix of intelligence, eloquence and straight speaking working class experience. if only we had folk like him now. It's good that a lot of the bad stuff then is gone or decreased, but it makes me feel a wee bit sad that this old Scotland has largely gone now.
these where the days when football was amence and you could piss up the side of the guys leg side beside you and if you dropped a can a lager the police picked it up for you lol
You are absolutely correct about there being no change in the attitude of both sets of supporters...one side is all inclusive and the other...not so much.
I would have enjoyed it if it wasn't for the ever so hard done to Cliff Hanley, talking out his hole. the film actually contradicted most of what he said eg. "Rangers are an anti-catholic club" then Rangers captain John Greig, Rangers manager Willie Waddell et al are in the CHAPEL! I mean did that guy personally hand Phil Mcglabsoithensgvfdhbsjasbcbcdbccz his pen and type writer? tims lap this shit up, it makes them feel that little bit downtrodden, the whole worlds against them attitude. I actually agree with what Willie Waddell said at the end. lets face it, since Rangers have been enjoying their catholic friendly era the quality has went right out the window!
BigjockGnu Well considering your username I think any opinions you have may be considered a bit biased.. You let yourself and you're team down by stuff like that.. Grow up...
It’s known as an identity crisis. They’re a Scottish club who think they’re Irish. Plastic paddy’s in other words. Some say it’s to aggravate the Rangers people who loyally British, so they wave a tricolour
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Fantastic documentary. This is the Glasgow I remember. It brings back memories of coming of age. The 1970s weren't perfect (no time was perfect) but I'd go back there in a heartbeat and never return. I wonder if anyone recognises themselves or any of the supporters on the terracing?
Thanks Steve, a fascinating slab of Scottish history, which was by turns; disturbing, enjoyable and nostalgic. I particularly enjoyed the footage of proper tackles and players getting up immediately or staying on their feet, a bygone era indeed.
Great, love this, my dad has just passed away I am broken, he would have loved this,
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Sorry for your loss ❤
Cliff Hanley huffing and puffing was getting on my nerves. I grew up in the 60's in the East End and Celtic were my local club so I supported them. My work-mate out of Bell Street Cleansing Depot at the time of this programme was an Orangeman who played in the band. He was a god guy -always had a laugh with him and I know he had Catholic friends. He and I would go to the games, sing our songs - at opposite ends of the ground - and then be pals at work on the Monday. What was the problem? To-days hypersensitive snowflakes outraged at everything get on my nerves much more than old Cliff Hanley.
My god that's absolutely summed up perfectly.
Well said my man special snowflake syndrome they call it can’t be doing with none of them they’re the problem if you ask me they and watch a film called am I racist you’ll see the hypocrisy in the modern era
The problems went deeper than a bit of name calling on match days.
Yes I’ve met many Celtic supporters who had friends who were Rangers fans and vice versa!
The memorial for the 66 in the Catholic Cathedral was a rare ray of light where the two clubs united.
I know Werner Herzog liked the documentary he remembered watched it on German T V He went on about the power and the Passion of it.all
One of my favourite directors
Herzog played amateur football in the 1960s and 70s.
Jimmy Reid - always the most sensible contribution
“Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting.
GEORGE ORWELL
(in "The Sporting Spirit", Tribune, GB, London, December 1945)”
As Steve indicates with his intro words, 95% of the comments below show that not much has changed in the past 40 years sadly but it was certainly an interesting watch. I support one of the Glasgow big clubs but I'll think I'll keep which one to myself. Happy I live 14,000 miles away where if someone asks you what school you went to it is because they are actually interested. I still find that refreshing ands a way better place to bring up my kids.
Eastern Australia by any chance???
Theres idiot football fans in every team in the world in afraid regardless of religion. Some of the south american derbies are just pure violence and the football comes second. Although your second from bottom line is spot on mate.
Thanks for sharing OP. Amazing piece of social history.
What an amazing social history record. I will return to this for sure. Thanks for the upload.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for putting this up.It's fascinating to see Glasgow back then and this has always been one of my favorite documentaries on any subject. It used to be hosted on the celticunderground page video section but sadly they no longer host it. I bought a dvd rip for it online but the quality is so poor it's virtually unwatchable. Hopefully it gets more of the attention it deserves. It's finally got an imdb profile now which is long overdue. Thanks again,
It's a good piece of documentary filmmaking. They don't or can't make them like that anymore. Look at the first couple of minutes and notice how there's not a word of dialogue. Slower pace than the break neck crap we see so much of on TV now.
I agree its a marvellous insight into the time, I notice how articulate everyone is, the emphasis on learning and manners comes out. Particularly Jimmy Reid , who would come form a long line of self educated shop stewards.
Amazing and lovely to see old photage of glasgow
Great to see the Late great jimmy Reid telling it like it is,
I'm a bluenose but how brilliant was that Celtic side, simply tremendous.
When I was a kid I was a supporter of Celtic because the UEFA Cup run 2003 but I do feel Rangers should have a European Cup in their history.
@@2511dhallBut they don’t that’s on them is it not?
@@hopeisit1347some of the decisions specially when marcelle won it in the 90s was dodgy as fuck later found out back handers were given
@@2511dhallToo late now. Rangers don't exist anymore 😂
@@J.D.1. called, The Rangers, since we were born look at any Rangers program, from the 20’s till present day. Our name was The Rangers, check yer facts Sméagol before trying to be clever. We are Rangers, have been before Celtic popped up and stole 7 of Hibs best players in the same year as Jack the Ripper popped up. So Ironic
The Rangers will never die so listen Pacific Shelf.
Check yer own degenerate history before talking nonsense.
Thank you for sharing this. I love these types of old UK football vids. YNWA
8:50. Supporters give their wife a bashing about on a Saturday night if Rangers lose. He says it like it’s acceptable.
i clocked that unbelievable but unfortunately true , even tae this day
Cracking and very accurate info fae wee Ciff Hanley...listen and learn my bluenose friends😁😁😁
TORQUE MADA your comparing 20th century standards to 21 century standards. But what he is saying isn't factual
The German audience must have thought they were looking at Dresden with some of those tenements
Love dark humour lol😂
Huge thanks for uploading this. Enjoyed this thoroughly.
The colours of those Glesga buses...nae wonder the orange brethren liked a wee walk🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was born and raised in Edinburgh, and I still have no clue as to why the Irish got such a raw deal when they arrived in Scotland. The whole concept of the sectarianism just seems absurd to me. A great many people in the world find it difficult telling the Scots and the Irish apart, yet somehow, someone found the need to prolong a pointless and ridiculous divide.
Economic more than anything. When the recession hit suddenly there were Irishmen taking jobs by offering to do them half price etc etc. It's well documented. Also, after 400 000 Irish folk from the south came in those decades, another influx from the north came, both Catholics and Prods, and that was about the time the economy dipped, and just in time for the division to manifest itself. Not to mention that Protestants were the majority of the city and never wanted to live amongst Catholics, hence Catholic slums for Irish immigrants and highland Catholics, Gorbals, Calton , Gallowgate, Garngad. The seeds were sewn right away, it just took time to happen, and when it, it just got worse and worse.
All over religion, how retarded.
I totally agree. I don't mind someone having religious beliefs, but they should never be used as a reason to harm anyone.
1984LizardKing ...and half the people fighting over their religion probly havent been near a church or chapel in years , insane !
1984LizardKing ...and half the people fighting over their religion probly havent been near a church or chapel in years , insane !
Mazy74 exactly.
8:45 hahahaha "supporters go home and if rangers lose they give their wives a bashing about" - FML this shit was acceptable in the 70`s?
It was acceptable in every culture until about the 1980s.
Don't remember it being acceptable, the opposite. Just went on behind closed doors. Go look at the papers 175 years ago, plenty jailed. But not enough was done to root it out. Not sure it's a whole lot better in 2024.@@AIJimmybad
Nothing has changed half there birds have left fleeing violence the amount a pumpings the rangers have had recently 😂
For them it still is.
Poor women and kids had very few rights until relatively recently so they were subject to brutalisation in all manner of ways. Most people born in the 21st century don't have to worry about this anymore.
Amazing how similar in manner, Sir Alex Ferguson is to Jock Stein.
Busby, Ferguson, Stein, Shanks all born in Glasgow ❤
Great Documentary,not going to say which team I support,will keep my thoughts to myself! Thought Jimmy Reid spoke brilliantly.
Most definitely
Give us a clue , do you bash the missus about much lately ?
Everyone here commenting on the bigotry from their partisan perspectives, but the saddest realisation as a Scottish football fan is brought home at 5:24 when stein talks about how 2 top teams in one city are the envy of Europe...we'll never see that in Scotland again.
Damn right. And how sadly significant that no one apart from you picked up on that. People were and are too busy hating each other. Idiots.
well it was utter BS so anyone can say it anytime
@@thelouderyouscream Yes I agree the bigotry is utter bs
That's a very staunch opening scene.
I stopped watching Rangers after the Cup Final riot of 80, sick of the agro and the violence. That was a rough day and an even rougher night getting back to Glasgow Central. My memories are stuck in the time warp of the 70s good and bad. It was.a different time, very different people both green and blue. Unfair to judge the folk back then with today’s hypocrisy. What an incredible documentary.
That's okay you're no loss on us mate. We have millions of fans around the world, you leaving our support over 40 years ago is no skin off our nose
@@crs2385 You,ll be one of the cretins the guy was on about.
Was such a long time ago my friend. Fans are far more peaceful now.
Everyone else stopped watching them in 2012 😂😂😂
@@crs2385 what fans
34:30 Éamon de Valera was not a Protestant! That man enshrined the Irish nation in Catholicism that it only recently started to shake off.
This part irked me lol
He did more harm,than what people said the english did.😮
Thanks for this.....a Sassernach who comes in peace.....enjoyed this video.
I dont follow either team of course but I think Scottish people should put aside the hatred and be glad they have two great football teams in Rangers and Celtic
Hear hear Matthew. Is that the great Robin Friday on your avatar?
Nicky Killen Good spot. ..the great maverick old timers from Reading tell me he was up there with Tony Currie and Stan Bowles.....playing for lower league team means there is little recorded footage of him playing. ...
You've probably seen this, but if you haven't it's well worth a read... The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw
The Robin Friday Story
By Paul McGuigan, Paolo Hewitt
You've probably aware of this having RF as your avatar, but if you haven't The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw
The Robin Friday Story
By Paul McGuigan, Paolo Hewitt Is a great read.
matthew coombs What's a Sassernach ?
Absolutely amazing historical education into the past and the future. To truly grasp the scope and true dedication that a fan feels for his club can only be understood by an equal and almost fervant understanding of the past and ones connection to it. As complex and diverse as DNA is to modern science. Let us not forget that every rung of this society are equally educated on the past and the future and their place in it. Regardless of race, religion,monetary wealth or Royal lineage. By their exceptance in it. Without this loyalty to their clubs society as we know it would collapse into utter chaos. These football clubs are the glue that binds these societies making them proud to be a part of it and not be ashamed of what layer or fabric of it they came from. Hence the phrase the 40's, in America they would think the 1940's in Europe they look at a century as if it was yesterday! Wake up and truly be proud of who you are regardless of race, religion or status. Never be ashamed hold your head high and be proud and respect other people's right to do the same. It would make the world a better place. Go LIV ERP OO L = Liverpool F.c!
God, I wish that Stein had gone into politics -He had a clarity that was profound -coupled with common sense and an intellect that belied his humble beginnings.
very very true
My respect for German television has just shot through the roof; this was a great documentary that sought only to report on the clubs, and not to exploit the divide for their own interests (unlike our own domestic broadcasters of the time - the BBC and ITV).
The old firm derby is certainly 1 of the most intense in world football. Both sets of fans r loud & superb
Loud yes
Great documentary.
17:34 “The British Government, by brilliant fiscal operations, managed to reduce the population of Ireland by about two thirds.”
14.25 - Jimmy Reid just about nailed every thing wrong that ails post-industrial Britian.
back when Your ground was chosen for you because of where you were born. And then you stood on that ground come hell or high water. Both sides said we are the people.
Jimmy Reed was a great scot, as a Liverpudlian we have a real infinity with Glaswegians, partly, as Jimmy says himself, the working class were made up of Irish, both Catholic and Protestant. Liverpool and Everton share a similar history, Liverpool being formed by an Monaghan protestant and Everton by Dominican brothers...but the bond is in its people and that is clear when you go to both cities.
First time I've saw that, thanks for sharing.
I noticed the bus thing when i first went to watch the fitba,back in mid seventies,green white n gold,then years later all turned to orange,anybody shine any light on that one?❤
holy shit...those packed terraces! lol. I forgot just how bad it was. Hows hundred weren't trampled to death each week, was a miracle. haha
Fascinating insight into our forefathers
It's a love hate relationship with most supporters. We love our friends but we hate there team and that's were the term 90 minute bigot come's from as supporters scream sectarian abuse at each other from opposite sides of the terraces. Then back to being friends, once the dust has settled. But their is still a dark side and it's very much alive and thriving in the shadows. You don't stray from the path on your way home from the football, as their is bad people lurking in the shadows. If you stray off the path you mite just find yourself waking up in either heaven or hell? Be safe and stay on the path!
Haha thanks cliff for your impartial observations??
We're all bigots just enjoy it
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jim ramsey ....i guess we all know which hun team you and your friend support..
Jim Ramsey well said
yes yous are all bigots. fact. HH your club is no more. zombie bastards
Jim Ramsey rangers to a greater extent as encapsulated perfectly by the contrasting outlook of both managers at the end. Rangers FC ARE bigotry, and really always will be.
Cliff Hanley could not be anymore one sided. Absolute nonsense
I've always wondered why so many celtic fans are bitter, and spend so much time hating Rangers.
This one sided, bias, excuse for a documentary, explains it to a certain extent.
C Hanley's (full of descrepences) rant, proves he's part of the problem, that he's (very badly) trying to describe!
If you dont understand,this was a geman made documentary,which parts are biased?that Rangers were anti catholic?thats obvious,they wouldnt sign one..
Steve Birrell it's biased and so are you, if you can't see it.
Rangers did sign Catholics.
Celtic were the only team founded on sectarian principles. (For the Irish Catholics.) To stop them going to the church of Scotland soup kitchens!
Rangers were founded for the love of the game, & nothing to do with religion.
@@gorbalsbhoy Rangers signed many Catholics before 1974 (when this documentary was made) In the 1930's, and 1910's. A false portrayal from biased tims
You seem bitter and appear to be spending time hating Celtic 😂
@@J.D.1. Me, bitter? Hahaha. I wouldn't waste my time, or breath. I just call out shite when I see it. 👀
I can't imagine that back in 1974 the world-famous mighty Glasgow Celtic 1888 would have considered surpassing the combined trophy haul of the old RFC and Rangers 2012, a truly fantastic achievement, albeit no one could have predicted the death of the old RFC in such a publicly humiliating manner after the begging bowl CVA was rejected.
Merseyside Derby is the only football match in Britain that doesn’t demand a physical division between both sets of fans. Yes it’s typical to stand with your own fans and sing the same songs etc. but in Goodison Park or Anfield it’s not implemented like every other football match in Great Britain is. I’m proud of my city. 🙏☘️
im a celtic fan, and not really bigoted, but the different attitudes displayed between the celtic and rangers chairmans are indicative of the difffering attitudes of the fans of both clubs. complete opposite ends of the political and social spectrum
Ah, in fact we don't vote for the same parties, do we? Come on... the Tories are NOTHING in Scotland... Rangers is the majority of Scottish support, so is Scotland a Tory stronghold? Stop making no sense.
An ordinary Rangers Labour man.
What a find this is , what YpuTube was made for
Fantastic to see places i know, i remember all buildings were black with soot
Stephen, Glasgow
15:22
Pinkston Road high flats where i lived 4 miserable years😂
That old guy is my great granda his name Robert murdoch!
Excellent documentary!
When there was not corporate football...
Every brain cell in the video belonged to Jimmy Reid
...which is undoubtedly why he wore the same costume on every 1974 TV appearance.
What a great documentary.
No dark faces anywhere.
Willie Waddell.. have you ever known a man to slever so much pish ? He talks and talks and talks...... but says nothing of note.
Those crowds! When derbies were derbies!!
Yep. It isn't the same anymore since Rangers died
Brilliant documentary 😅
what a crowd massive,i bet it was brilliant ,i dont understand the divide,both Scottish and Irish are unique and full of character and pride
Good and insightful film. But couldn't they have spelled John Thomson's name correctly?
Government seems unable to monetize ethics, hence, no ethics in government.
Eamon De Valera was Catholic not Protestant 😂 where did he pull that out of .
Willie Waddell-the rangers manager at this time-is not sober at any point in this documentary. Contrast this with the great Jock Stein-concise , intelligent, insightful. Also absolutely superb social commentary by the legendary Jimmy Reid and Cliff Hanley. The last images tell all-Waddell, drunk, confused, unsure. No wonder that club died!
I disagree. Waddell is articulate and measured: a great man of football, as was Stein.
@@phillipecook3227Waddell was a fukn bigot he di d a long time ago just like his team DEEEEEEEEED
Stein was a teetotaller, he also had no religious bigoted view, he was happy for celtic boys club to be open to everyone, that helped jim torbett carry on regardless of whose future football career he was choosing to ruin. May god forgive him and stein. Scum of the earth.
Jock knew. Were you one of the kids yourself pal?
@@mysecretworld6603
mysecretworld ? that says it all.
Jimmy Reid with his finger on the pulse as usual.
And he was a Rangers man. But we're still 'fascists', aye... Jimmy knew about Scotland and its people 10000 times more than most of the Celtic supporters nowadays. Living in mind ghettos is no help at all.
He was one of the smartest people Scotland ever produced. I respected him for his humanity and intelligence tho I disagreed with much of his politics. Born to be a leader but never was.
@@220773 Sevconians are right wing by and large. Reid would detest your support nowadays, almost as much as Rangers (1872-2012).
@@Secular_Scot This is the typical Celtic way of distorting reality.
There's little to do with the likes of yous.
Jimmy Reid was a Rangers man, just accept it, he said that himself.
Glasgow is a working-class left wing city,, accept that... Ibrox people vote for THE SAME PARTIES YOU VOTE FOR, take a look at the polls, please, instead of showing us 'the world as interpreted by Celtic fans'........... unfortunately, Rangers fans vote mostly for the SNP, same as you do now... and Gers fans used to be Labour voters same as you were... sometimes I think you don't really live in Glasgow, based on the fact you keep telling lies... the Protestant/Catholic thing has NOTHING TO DO with left/right... it started as a 'war between the poor', because both the Scottish Protestants and the Irish Catholics were working-class people FIGHTING FOR THEIR JOBS...
All the fuss you keep making about fascism and the BNP at Ibrox is such an utter lie it just blows up on its own, I won't even waste time in replying here.
By the way, being BRITISH is much more leftist than being NATIONALISTIC... you will always carry on with your infinite sense of the Irish being repressed by the Brits (and the Scots), well do it, whatever you do will one day have to face the facts of life itself.
I'm Rangers and I'm proudly British Labour, no way I'll ever vote for the SNP, though it's becoming some kind of vogue both at Ibrox and at Sellik Pork.
Keep confusing FOOTBALL RIVALRIES with POLITICS as you Sellik lads always do, you always miss the point... if we wave the Union Jack and sing 'sectarian songs' is just because that's the only way YOU'LL GET OFFENDED!!!
Same as when you wave the tricolour and your own sectarian songs... it's NORMAL BANTER... not politics...
@@220773are u ah brexiteer
34:32 De Valera was not a protestant
Cuban wog. Probably into voodoo.
@@clemfandango619😂😂😂😂
De Valera was a Roman Catholic... our first president, Dr. Douglas Hyde was a protestant, but not Dev!!
Check out Carlos tevez the rangers fan in the crowd at the beginning of this film.cityandrangerstillidie.
superb!
Think Big, thats how to do it, Big!
Met quite a few Celtic & Rangers when working offshore , as an Englishman ( Manchester City ) if I had to choose a Scots team it would be Rangers .
what a great film
The potato crop didn't failed. English imperialism meant a shortfall for the native people to the point where it felt like a famine. The English, as in many parts of the globe, the instigators of human misery.
Your knowledge of history is pathetic. You will tell me next that the English were behind the Highland clearances. You prejudiced lying arsehole
the crop also failed, it was potato blight
@@willevans429yes, but none of the other crops failed. They were all shipped out to England as before.
Scottish football is tiresome.
@@bfc3057 yes, but the potato crop was the most important. No i dont agree, I live in Europe and for a long time, people know the Scottish contribution and the football is still considered exotic, people respect it.
btw, my dads side is Welsh, mothers is Irish, direct from the famine
"I am not Celtic, Celtic is me. Celtic dream me and I dream Celtic. I eat Celtic for lunch and Celtic eats me for dinner. If Celtic are my shoes, I am Celtic's feet" - that boy's a riot.
what words
What a fanny
Tell that to the victims
@@PrintSolution100tell it to Gordon Neelys victims too 🟢⚪️🟢⚪️. Glasgow now will always be GREEN & WHITE 🟢⚪️🟢⚪️🤣
Brilliant c'mon the hoops
The colour of those buses is enough to make you walk home
Them were the days 😂
Cliff Hanley didn't do irony did he? The bitterness and hatred oozing out of him. The acidic inflection in his voice is a dead giveaway.
Truth isn't bigotry or hatred.
19:40 So the club was a company and that company no longer exists. This confirms the old club did indeed cease to exist 😂😂😂
The Scottish Labour party decimated Glasgow with their socialist brutalist concrete landscaping and North Korean style tower blocks. Celtic and Rangers football clubs at least gave a day out away from the damp mouldy social housing built on behalf of the Labour party. Many towns in the west coast had their heart ripped out by Labour.
Great stuff.
I enjoyed this.
Rangers and Celtic think BIG(OTRY).Well done Jimmy Reid
Big Jock knew.
dick..
Big Jock knew how to win 9IAR, the European Cup & tend to the dying victims of the Ibrox Disaster. You disgusting knuckle dragging bigot.
@@Secular_Scot So if you point out someone is a criminal then you're a bigot? Oh dear :(
Wadlle's turning in his grave lol.. They've got more catholics than Celtic now 🤣
Never, ever.. have Septic had a stadium which holds over 40% of the population of Glasgow..
He was talking about both stadiums combined.
@@erniemccracken2429 Not just that either. Partick Thistle and Queens Park were big clubs then in Glasgow. Then there were lots of smaller football venues and City Council football areas.
Take them all into account and they might well have the capacity for nearly half of the city
He never said Celtic park holds 40% of the population Clean your ears out
He clearly said all the football stadiums in Glasgow can hold 40% of the population
There was 5 stadiums in the City at the time Do the maths Oh I forgot maths isn’t your strong point
One of the reasons your club did you tube HH 🍀
You have to laugh at the obsessed Sevco fans clambering over each other to spite their bile be careful as to not let any on yourself as I'm not sure if its contagious and I don't want to find out.
Their inane ramblings are non coherent and frothing of the mouth are classic symptoms of rage!
Sounds like an accurate self diagnosis you fuckwit.
non coherent and frothing at the mouth is a perfect way to describe celtic now
Hope there ain't too many feminists watching this. The way he talks about domestic violence in such a nonchalant fashion shows how far we have come from the 1970s.
yep, how can anyone be nostalgic for 1970's Glasgow? Neds is a good film depicting the dismal life chances of these people as well as the alcoholism and domestic abuse.
Many pubs in Glasgow prohibited women from entering them. It was a very regressive society then.
Good old Scottish style socialist there at 13 minutes - a mix of intelligence, eloquence and straight speaking working class experience. if only we had folk like him now. It's good that a lot of the bad stuff then is gone or decreased, but it makes me feel a wee bit sad that this old Scotland has largely gone now.
Who's here from the Terrace Podcast?
Look up The Chronicles Made In Toonheid very good by Ian Todd
The late Cliff Hanley completely dismembered the delusions of hunnery here.
these where the days when football was amence and you could piss up the side of the guys leg side beside you and if you dropped a can a lager the police picked it up for you lol
I'm a fan of neither. Seems ridiculous.
You are absolutely correct about there being no change in the attitude of both sets of supporters...one side is all inclusive and the other...not so much.
Hell yeah , I'd forgotten Rangers.
14:37 Facts. To this day!
I would have enjoyed it if it wasn't for the ever so hard done to Cliff Hanley, talking out his hole. the film actually contradicted most of what he said eg. "Rangers are an anti-catholic club" then Rangers captain John Greig, Rangers manager Willie Waddell et al are in the CHAPEL! I mean did that guy personally hand Phil Mcglabsoithensgvfdhbsjasbcbcdbccz his pen and type writer? tims lap this shit up, it makes them feel that little bit downtrodden, the whole worlds against them attitude.
I actually agree with what Willie Waddell said at the end.
lets face it, since Rangers have been enjoying their catholic friendly era the quality has went right out the window!
BigjockGnu Well considering your username I think any opinions you have may be considered a bit biased.. You let yourself and you're team down by stuff like that.. Grow up...
@16.46 the old codger made the sign of the cross 😂
Were was a? In the Dark Ages, mr twaddle🎉🎉🎉c'mon the hoops
Why does celtic display the irish flag on their ground and support now supports palastine?
It’s known as an identity crisis. They’re a Scottish club who think they’re Irish. Plastic paddy’s in other words. Some say it’s to aggravate the Rangers people who loyally British, so they wave a tricolour
Why not?
Jimmy Reid steals the show