Basically cars are becoming an appliance, eventually they will all be made in the same factory and like you said just a different badge and grill, like a washing machine.
Without any hesitation l would bite Jim Farley Ford CEO hand off to buy a brand new mass produced Mk1 Ford Escort at an affordable price, would pay cash instanly, money been sitting in the bank for decades doing nothing not buying new Fords. Absolutely love the Blue Oval, made an homeless ophan non-new car buyer by Ford in 1987. Sadly given up, lost all hope won't be buying any new cars till the day l die.
I was with you all the way and yes I like Fords! My dad had a new MK1 red Escort, loved it, cherished it and got rid of it because it rotted in front of his eyes! Me? Years later, three cortinas, a plethora of ford company cars Sierra's etc and then an Smax! The Smax is a brilliant car, my son liked it so much, he has bought one and he loves it! Me? Well I bought a 3 year old Kia Sportage 4wd to tow the caravan. That was 9 years ago and I still love it! The only issues in that time, are the radio, 2 clutches (caravan remember) 1 broken interior light bulb and services / tyres. Looking to move on but, I suspect it will be another Kia, or it's sister car, Hyundai Tucson (?) as they are slightly cheaper than the Kia. However, my favourite car is still the MK1 Ford Escort! 🥰
It was a mistake for Ford to end production on the Mondeo, Focus, Fiesta, Fusion, Taurus, Crown Vic, Ka and such, I want to bring them all back or a better replacement, heck a new replacement for the likes of the Scorpio or such, revive the Thunderbird as their upper class type car, revive Mercury while at it too tbh, so yeah
I can’t believe a car Like the Ford escort which in its day drove fairly well. I had mk1 mk2 Rs 2000 back in the day I loved my cars, then But I would not be queueing up to buy a replica now most people want something modern to drive. people like you who are diehard Escort Mk1 fans Might think it’s a good idea, but the reason why they only do a limited run is because they know it would not be the Average Joes first choice as an every day run about I like to see them running around, brings back memories, but I wouldn’t wanna buy one now
I'd have considered a mk8 or 9 fiesta if it was 3 door and did a couple of hundred miles on a charge as I don't do that in a week. But no sadly I must stick with the mk7 fiesta and a handful of mk4 escorts. Either way I'd rather have a genuine mk1 than a mk wrong from wish
I have heard this conversation before where excitment is displayed about the possiblity of a replica retro car from the 70's/80's. However they always want several updated modern systems with lighting, braking and other modern day systems. This to me isn't the same and is completely missing the point! If they brought back the Ford Capri with anything less than 100% authenticity from that era I would not be interested. I owned several Fords from this era and I loved their shortcomings but they were simple to fix and service and a lot of fun. Cars were once so cheap to own, run and maintain but that is long gone now and it could never be the same as costs to remanufacture this generation of vehicle would be very expensive so sales would inevitably be very low.
Had two escorts I wonder what the safety rating would be on these limited run cars and would you be able to convince an insurance company to issue a affordable insurance quote
You aren't actually a million miles away! If you go through the construction and use act, the eu rules, tuv etc... the pedestrian safety, internal safety requirements now limit what you can actually make a car look it. No sharp edges, lights and gaps between bonnet and engine etc. The mandatory crap bolted on for the ncap ratings. Along with the w.e.f "suggestion. Everyone shares engines, gearboxes, suspension components between groups. Even full vehicles on a lot of platforms. Btw... the governments of Europe "especially Labour" are now giving financial penalties "fines" to car manufacturers that do not sell a percentage of electric vehicles. That's wht manufacturers are closing factories, to cut back on production of real cars.
The key here is that the cars aren’t being built by Ford, they’re being built by Boreham Motorworks, so they won’t have to adhere to the strict regulations for new vehicle construction regarding crash testing, ncap, and emissions etc. Remember that these are going to be hand-built and that’s going to be reflected in the price, I’d expect prices for the mk1 to start at 75k. There’s no way that it’s going to be financially viable to tool up for the body panels so I’m 99% sure that they’ll use Magnum or Expressed Steel panels to make them - just like MST do. Boreham Motorworks are part of the DRVN Automotive brand, and very little to do with Ford, other than the license to build them. The numbers will be very limited, maybe 100 per year at the most - but that’s just an educated guess. Nevertheless I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 12th.
Ford's No1 best selling "CAR" worldwide of all time is the Ford Escort. Sorry l would be in front of you in the queue to buy a new affordable Mk1 Escort.
Limited run so they don’t have to build to modern day safety requirements for mass produced vehicles. It is impossible today to build a 70s car in mass production to comply to the regulations of today. Very unfortunate.
Just another overpriced generic shaped EV, hmmm at those prices it's better to invest in a classic one. A classic that will only ever go up in price. Let's face it, no one wants to buy used EVs. We have all seen how prices drop, and I predict in a few years time people will just be abandoning EVs at the side of the road, fly tipped like an old mattress.
Won't be a car for the masses expect a price of £100k
I hope you are wrong, but fear you will be right.
An EV has the value and the lifespan of a laptop no matter how it looks..
Basically cars are becoming an appliance, eventually they will all be made in the same factory and like you said just a different badge and grill, like a washing machine.
Can't see Arfur Daley rocking up to the golf club in a pink Jaaag.
Terry looks right in a Capri. These days they'd give him a Crapi.
If only the manufacturers would listen to your points which I equally share, cool retro cars that are non SUV or electric
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Without any hesitation l would bite Jim Farley Ford CEO hand off to buy a brand new mass produced Mk1 Ford Escort at an affordable price, would pay cash instanly, money been sitting in the bank for decades doing nothing not buying new Fords. Absolutely love the Blue Oval, made an homeless ophan non-new car buyer by Ford in 1987. Sadly given up, lost all hope won't be buying any new cars till the day l die.
bring back the fiesta
I was with you all the way and yes I like Fords!
My dad had a new MK1 red Escort, loved it, cherished it and got rid of it because it rotted in front of his eyes!
Me? Years later, three cortinas, a plethora of ford company cars Sierra's etc and then an Smax! The Smax is a brilliant car, my son liked it so much, he has bought one and he loves it!
Me? Well I bought a 3 year old Kia Sportage 4wd to tow the caravan. That was 9 years ago and I still love it! The only issues in that time, are the radio, 2 clutches (caravan remember) 1 broken interior light bulb and services / tyres.
Looking to move on but, I suspect it will be another Kia, or it's sister car, Hyundai Tucson (?) as they are slightly cheaper than the Kia.
However, my favourite car is still the MK1 Ford Escort! 🥰
It was a mistake for Ford to end production on the Mondeo, Focus, Fiesta, Fusion, Taurus, Crown Vic, Ka and such, I want to bring them all back or a better replacement, heck a new replacement for the likes of the Scorpio or such, revive the Thunderbird as their upper class type car, revive Mercury while at it too tbh, so yeah
I can’t believe a car Like the Ford escort which in its day drove fairly well. I had mk1 mk2 Rs 2000 back in the day I loved my cars, then But I would not be queueing up to buy a replica now most people want something modern to drive. people like you who are diehard Escort Mk1 fans Might think it’s a good idea, but the reason why they only do a limited run is because they know it would not be the Average Joes first choice as an every day run about I like to see them running around, brings back memories, but I wouldn’t wanna buy one now
They never get a license to make it a production car, last thing Ford needs is competition from their own brand lol
They do mention they are officially licenced by Ford.
I'd have considered a mk8 or 9 fiesta if it was 3 door and did a couple of hundred miles on a charge as I don't do that in a week. But no sadly I must stick with the mk7 fiesta and a handful of mk4 escorts. Either way I'd rather have a genuine mk1 than a mk wrong from wish
im 65y/o and if they brought a new ford capri out that LOOKED like a old capri {ish) i would be at the front of the line to get one.
Definitely!
A MST is still cheaper than a banana duck taped to a wall. 😎
Well yes...so is my house...and all my 6 cars put together.
I have heard this conversation before where excitment is displayed about the possiblity of a replica retro car from the 70's/80's. However they always want several updated modern systems with lighting, braking and other modern day systems. This to me isn't the same and is completely missing the point! If they brought back the Ford Capri with anything less than 100% authenticity from that era I would not be interested. I owned several Fords from this era and I loved their shortcomings but they were simple to fix and service and a lot of fun. Cars were once so cheap to own, run and maintain but that is long gone now and it could never be the same as costs to remanufacture this generation of vehicle would be very expensive so sales would inevitably be very low.
Had two escorts I wonder what the safety rating would be on these limited run cars and would you be able to convince an insurance company to issue a affordable insurance quote
You aren't actually a million miles away! If you go through the construction and use act, the eu rules, tuv etc... the pedestrian safety, internal safety requirements now limit what you can actually make a car look it. No sharp edges, lights and gaps between bonnet and engine etc. The mandatory crap bolted on for the ncap ratings. Along with the w.e.f "suggestion. Everyone shares engines, gearboxes, suspension components between groups. Even full vehicles on a lot of platforms.
Btw... the governments of Europe "especially Labour" are now giving financial penalties "fines" to car manufacturers that do not sell a percentage of electric vehicles. That's wht manufacturers are closing factories, to cut back on production of real cars.
The key here is that the cars aren’t being built by Ford, they’re being built by Boreham Motorworks, so they won’t have to adhere to the strict regulations for new vehicle construction regarding crash testing, ncap, and emissions etc. Remember that these are going to be hand-built and that’s going to be reflected in the price, I’d expect prices for the mk1 to start at 75k. There’s no way that it’s going to be financially viable to tool up for the body panels so I’m 99% sure that they’ll use Magnum or Expressed Steel panels to make them - just like MST do. Boreham Motorworks are part of the DRVN Automotive brand, and very little to do with Ford, other than the license to build them. The numbers will be very limited, maybe 100 per year at the most - but that’s just an educated guess. Nevertheless I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 12th.
FFW TO 6:05 if your here for the reason I came here. Dude rattles on and on…
I did apologise for that, but I have opinions...
Manufacturers won't build anything soon, VW, Ford... etc etc... all in the financial poop.
Cracking rant 😁
Ford's No1 best selling "CAR" worldwide of all time is the Ford Escort. Sorry l would be in front of you in the queue to buy a new affordable Mk1 Escort.
Erm, I think the Model T may have sold more…..
Google suggests a little over 4 million Escorts, while Model T was over 15 million.
Oh, and I know is not a “CAR”, but Ford have built over 8 million Transits too.
Limited run so they don’t have to build to modern day safety requirements for mass produced vehicles. It is impossible today to build a 70s car in mass production to comply to the regulations of today. Very unfortunate.
I had a m1 1300 GT k reg
New MG little hatchback hybrid 194bhp and no CVT but 3 speed auto,, tested at 0-60 in 6.7sec must be around 20k plus.. Probably built in china etc
Just go to MST
I kniw, but they start at £85k, £174k for the EvoX version. Keen to see the price of this.
So it's either a Chinese knock off or it's entirely built from magnum car panels
Don't buy new cars. Buy OLD cars and keep them on the road.
Nah, I enjoy my petrol SUV, these old cars were stupid
This is a waste of time it’s just like the MG THEY DID £80,000 but you never know
Just another overpriced generic shaped EV, hmmm at those prices it's better to invest in a classic one. A classic that will only ever go up in price. Let's face it, no one wants to buy used EVs. We have all seen how prices drop, and I predict in a few years time people will just be abandoning EVs at the side of the road, fly tipped like an old mattress.