They aren't taking money out of your pocket, as no one who wanted to buy the reproduction would ever have any intention of paying $400 for an original.
Luther Blissett Yes they are, some I say. There are people who are buying stuff they thought were original but ended up fake. They aren't taking people's money if they put a tag that says "replica."
of course they are, he's the one that conceived the piece, the composition, set up the lighting and decided what to paint and where and then, only then, painted it. It's his vision from start to finish. It's called piracy.
@@ams9449 The point is that the people who buy these cheap knockoffs would never have bought an original in the first place. They're not just saving money by buying them, that's all they're prepared to pay for a painting. Ergo they were never potential customers for the original artist.
@@alexleanh I agree with everything you say. Also there's nothing particularly interesting or original about still lives with fruit, however you try to dress it up.
@@Auriflamme In the ideal market those people would be potential customers because paintings can't be produced that cheap on a level where they are original works. They copy something another person had to spend time on figuring out.
Did he advertise it clearly as a copy? That is a important issue as well. Though still that is violate of a Chinese law but many of these copy artist are living in poverty. Not to excuse it but many are in difficult and sad situation from other videos I seen.
How could buyers not know this is going on. Art was the first thing ever counterfeited. They deserve to be scammed, people are far too trusting of the internet.
It is sad that the artist in China cannot or don't feel like they can be successful by making their own original paintings. Jose Trujillo, who is based in the Untied States, managed to be successful on ebay with original artwork. But he sells a lot of artwork WAY under market value and paints largely abstract that are quicker to paint. The original artist of market value is rare. If it is difficult to be successful as a original artist in the United States I can only imagine the difficult to do so in China. With that being said; there are many paintings made artist that apply their 50 year rule. Nonetheless, it is sad to see all of this artist talented being used on copies instead of interesting and original artwork.
They are NOT COPIES....NO COPYRIGHT. THEY are replicas. But, he doesn't realize how famous his work can be when people copy him. People have sat in museums for centuries trying to copy others works. It used to be a teaching tool. So called "copies" are nothing more than decorative art. Photo copies of originals are subject to copyright laws. Reproduction by an artist of of their original work as a print is always permitted unless those rights are signed away with the sale of the original. No owner of an original painting may reproduce a photo of the original unless the owner is the artist.
Painting takes practice. Painting takes time. Just look at the average income per day in the USA. Its 222,55 dollars. With an estimated 30 percent of the painting that goes to the gallery (which is quite comman) he gets 280 dollars off of a painting that sold for 400. So if he takes just a bit over one day to paint one painting of that size shown in the video, which is quite fast for an oil painting, he is just paid like an average american citizen. I don't know why that is so hard to understand for some people. And if someone just copies the work you did it's still ripping off an artist. He had to arrange what he painted. Arrange the fruits, arrange the light, etc. It's just more work than what you might think it is.
It's not counterfeit if the proportions and colours, canvas and paints are different. Nobody is trying to pass these off as the real deal, including the Chinese painters or the person on the end selling them in the West. No efforts are made in the entire process to either age the painting or falsely a signature at all at any stage of the process. He paints these in China and sell's them for 11.69% of what the guy at the end gets in total for them. Non go above the €1000,- mark and he produces 10 a day in a studio employing 4 people 1 of whom is his wife. For that kind of money you know you aren't getting a Vincent van Gogh.⬅yes, all of its pronounced, so no "van Go"⬅(where is he going and what's happened to the GH ?) or "van Goth"⬅(he wasn't one, and where did that T come from, not to mention, what's happened to the missing G ?;) This is not some organised crime syndicate, so no "gotcha" moment here Ya'll ;). Just a passionate Chinese painter making moderately passable honest copies to hang on your wall so he can pay the rent at the end of the day.
They copy from the original and they fake they often fake the signiture if the artist has a broad reputation (like Van Gogh for example) and they use the original images the artist posted on the internet on their website to sell it. That is simply illegal.
@@fynnb8537 Is it ? Look at those paintings he painted, now go and look at a few Dutch master painters painting details in their paintings. You'll find its him who's directly copying details from those painting's and trying to pass them off as his "originals". He's a mediocre artist at best, and committing blatant plagiarism himself, only to complain sombody is copying him. Like I said, his biggest moment was appearing in this documentary, and we'll forget about him very quickly, can't for the life of me even recall his name already.
hahah 450$ for a tiny painting of a still life. That's the real crime. It's not even artistic, decorative at best. I'd buy that counterfeit any day. At least it is priced according to the market value.
They aren't taking money out of your pocket, as no one who wanted to buy the reproduction would ever have any intention of paying $400 for an original.
Luther Blissett Yes they are, some I say. There are people who are buying stuff they thought were original but ended up fake. They aren't taking people's money if they put a tag that says "replica."
of course they are, he's the one that conceived the piece, the composition, set up the lighting and decided what to paint and where and then, only then, painted it. It's his vision from start to finish. It's called piracy.
@@ams9449 The point is that the people who buy these cheap knockoffs would never have bought an original in the first place. They're not just saving money by buying them, that's all they're prepared to pay for a painting. Ergo they were never potential customers for the original artist.
@@alexleanh I agree with everything you say. Also there's nothing particularly interesting or original about still lives with fruit, however you try to dress it up.
@@Auriflamme In the ideal market those people would be potential customers because paintings can't be produced that cheap on a level where they are original works. They copy something another person had to spend time on figuring out.
A counterfeit painting and a copy is a different thing. These paintings are copies, not even fakes, a fake is also a different thing.
Did he advertise it clearly as a copy? That is a important issue as well. Though still that is violate of a Chinese law but many of these copy artist are living in poverty. Not to excuse it but many are in difficult and sad situation from other videos I seen.
True,. it's fake if you sell it in value as original. Like Monalisa painting, any one can copy it in different sizes and sell it in a very low price.
How could buyers not know this is going on.
Art was the first thing ever counterfeited.
They deserve to be scammed, people are far too trusting of the internet.
I'd still buy those fake paintings... someone sat down and painted them... they look amazing!!
The website mentioned is now off line and the web address is for sale.
It is sad that the artist in China cannot or don't feel like they can be successful by making their own original paintings. Jose Trujillo, who is based in the Untied States, managed to be successful on ebay with original artwork. But he sells a lot of artwork WAY under market value and paints largely abstract that are quicker to paint. The original artist of market value is rare. If it is difficult to be successful as a original artist in the United States I can only imagine the difficult to do so in China. With that being said; there are many paintings made artist that apply their 50 year rule. Nonetheless, it is sad to see all of this artist talented being used on copies instead of interesting and original artwork.
They are NOT COPIES....NO COPYRIGHT. THEY are replicas. But, he doesn't realize how famous his work can be when people copy him. People have sat in museums for centuries trying to copy others works. It used to be a teaching tool. So called "copies" are nothing more than decorative art. Photo copies of originals are subject to copyright laws. Reproduction by an artist of of their original work as a print is always permitted unless those rights are signed away with the sale of the original. No owner of an original painting may reproduce a photo of the original unless the owner is the artist.
you don't know how copyright law works, do you.
Painting takes practice. Painting takes time. Just look at the average income per day in the USA. Its 222,55 dollars. With an estimated 30 percent of the painting that goes to the gallery (which is quite comman) he gets 280 dollars off of a painting that sold for 400. So if he takes just a bit over one day to paint one painting of that size shown in the video, which is quite fast for an oil painting, he is just paid like an average american citizen. I don't know why that is so hard to understand for some people.
And if someone just copies the work you did it's still ripping off an artist. He had to arrange what he painted. Arrange the fruits, arrange the light, etc. It's just more work than what you might think it is.
lol watermark the images, what a noob.
there is no need to "warn" us we know these paintings are chinese, they are really well done.
If they can copy a fruit painting, why not buy real fruits, and make a painting from the real fruits?
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Amazing Chinese painters... wow!!! I would love them to copy my paintings.
It's not counterfeit if the proportions and colours, canvas and paints are different.
Nobody is trying to pass these off as the real deal, including the Chinese painters or the person on the end selling them in the West.
No efforts are made in the entire process to either age the painting or falsely a signature at all at any stage of the process.
He paints these in China and sell's them for 11.69% of what the guy at the end gets in total for them.
Non go above the €1000,- mark and he produces 10 a day in a studio employing 4 people 1 of whom is his wife.
For that kind of money you know you aren't getting a Vincent van Gogh.⬅yes, all of its pronounced, so no "van Go"⬅(where is he going and what's happened to the GH ?) or "van Goth"⬅(he wasn't one, and where did that T come from, not to mention, what's happened to the missing G ?;)
This is not some organised crime syndicate, so no "gotcha" moment here Ya'll ;).
Just a passionate Chinese painter making moderately passable honest copies to hang on your wall so he can pay the rent at the end of the day.
They copy from the original and they fake they often fake the signiture if the artist has a broad reputation (like Van Gogh for example) and they use the original images the artist posted on the internet on their website to sell it. That is simply illegal.
They could just paint still lifes from photos free of copyright but they don't. The way they do it is ripping off the artist.
@@fynnb8537 That "artist" biggest moment was appearing in this documentary, let's keep it real ;).
@@thatdutchguy2882 Still the same thing.
@@fynnb8537 Is it ?
Look at those paintings he painted, now go and look at a few Dutch master painters painting details in their paintings.
You'll find its him who's directly copying details from those painting's and trying to pass them off as his "originals".
He's a mediocre artist at best, and committing blatant plagiarism himself, only to complain sombody is copying him.
Like I said, his biggest moment was appearing in this documentary, and we'll forget about him very quickly, can't for the life of me even recall his name already.
hahah 450$ for a tiny painting of a still life. That's the real crime. It's not even artistic, decorative at best. I'd buy that counterfeit any day. At least it is priced according to the market value.
I would buy " fake art"