This was a great tutorial! I watched a couple other vids on this subject that wasted a lot of time beating around the bush and ultimately made using the chain selector sound more complicated than it is - leaving me feeling like it was just too much for me to learn. This vid, however, got right to the point and clearly explained how chain selector can be utilized for this really critical functionality and I feel like I fully understand it now. Thank you!
Just watched a whole bunch of videos, and this was the most concise and surprisingly intuitive answer to a simple task, that can have complex solutions.
you all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a way to get back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot the login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Gary Ali Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Is it possible for you to do a video showing your live set? After you referenced that it would be confusing, I cant help but want to know what it looks like. If it's top secret, I do understand that as well. Thanks.
I wish Ableton would create a Instrument Rack device which actually is managing the CPU and RAM properly. Like Gigperformer does. You know: Unloading the not-selected Instruments out of the RAM instead of keeping it there all the time
After spending too many hours on this, I finally figured out why mapping the power on to the chain selector wasn't working for me. In the mapping parameters, make sure you have the chain selector's min/max going from 0-127 - I had adjusted mine to match how many instruments in the rack, i.e. 1-17 for 17 instruments.
HI nice video! really usefull, I have a question, how I can a loop in the same channel with this dummy clips? because I trying but its imposible. thank you, cheers.
This depends on whether you're trying to play back midi notes from a pre-made loop, create a new midi loop, or create a new audio loop. For the first option, you can just write midi notes in the dummy clip that has the preset change automation in it, making it no longer be a dummy clip, but still serve the same function. if you want to make a new midi loop while performing live, you can use the midi overdub function in Ableton to record your midi notes into one of the dummy clips live, or, you can set up an additional track to receive the midi input of your controller and set the track with the dummy clips and instrument device on it to receive midi from that track. That way you can record new midi loops in one track, and still freely use the dummy clips to change presets while those midi loops play back. As far as looping audio goes, this will unfortunately not work, since once you've recorded audio in a loop, you cannot change the preset sound of it without recording an entirely separate audio loop using the other preset sound.
This is a great technique. The only issue is if you have a track spread out over different scenes and are trying to use the dummy on the first scene to change instrument, that automation won't cary over when trying to record a new clip using the same patch in a later scene (i.e. the creation of a new clip resets the chain selector)... Any idea for a workaround?
I have a few midi controllers that I use for live performance with multiple musicians and I midi mapped the macro knobs on said controllers to control separate parameters on the instrument racks on each separate track (say synth 1 on an arturia key lab 49 and a bass synth on an mpk mini) I midi mapped the macros on one controller to certain parameters. But, when I go to perform sometimes the knobs will control the parameters of the other synth or vice versa. I tried to assign each track to only receive midi information from one controller via the channels and "all ins." box. but, It's still not working. I'm also having an issue with mapping my korg nanopad's xy pad to be able to control x y grids like the chorus rate etc.... any tips or recommendations for videos to watch for help?
Thanks so much for the tutorial! It really helped! I have a doubt, though: What if I need to filter my vsts with effects like EQ or Reverb? What could I do to give each VST its separated set of FXs? Thanks! :)
I'm building a vocal chain and everytime I get to Chain 7 it introduces latency. Do you have any idea what could be causing this? I have my chain disabling the previous effects as you mentioned.
This is most likely because whatever plugin you're using on chain 7 of your vocal FX rack is introducing latency. If you hover your mouse over that plugin and look at the info text on the very bottom of the Ableton window, it should tell you how many samples and miliseconds of latency the plugin introduces. to resolve this, you may need to switch to a zero-latency version of the plugin, or find another zero-latency plugin to do the same job.
I thought of that. but I don't believe that's the problem. For example I put effects in chain 6 then apply that to set number 6 and it works fine. I applied chain 6 to set 7 and now that set has latency. So using the the same preset on one set is fine, but just moving down one set introduces latency. I can't seem to figure out why. @@PyramindSF
Others instead of showing us how they do it they make templates and want your money on something that its not that hard to deal with if you understand how it works. Thank you so much
This was a great tutorial! I watched a couple other vids on this subject that wasted a lot of time beating around the bush and ultimately made using the chain selector sound more complicated than it is - leaving me feeling like it was just too much for me to learn. This vid, however, got right to the point and clearly explained how chain selector can be utilized for this really critical functionality and I feel like I fully understand it now. Thank you!
Just watched a whole bunch of videos, and this was the most concise and surprisingly intuitive answer to a simple task, that can have complex solutions.
you all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a way to get back into an instagram account..?
I somehow forgot the login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Brady John Instablaster ;)
@Gary Ali Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Gary Ali it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you really help me out :D
@Brady John Glad I could help :)
I have been searching for this solution for weeks! Thanks heaps!!! You rock!
Why have I taken so long to find this?!? Gold, thank you, you've made my live set so much more manageable!
Thank you for clear cut information
This have to be one of the best tutorials I've ever seen. Thank you! And the ending was absolutely hilarious. 10/10!
Proper genuine information 👍
This is great! I was considering to switch to VST Live but this method will work perfectly for the way I run tracks and play with VSTs on my church.
Absolutely brilliant tutorial
Thank you!
great tutorial and best part @ min 7:45 - hilarious
Very informative, the ending cracked me up! XDD
Awesome vid. Super helpful. Thx so much!!
That last senctance was hilarious. Your def crazy if you have 128 instruments. Thanks well explained.
Awesome!! Thanks for this video!!
Great tutorial. Thank you!
Great advice! Thanks!
This is so clever damn
Is it possible for you to do a video showing your live set? After you referenced that it would be confusing, I cant help but want to know what it looks like. If it's top secret, I do understand that as well. Thanks.
great tips , thanks
That information was really great.....Thank you so much
great tutorial! first one i've found that explains this so well. thank you.
you're welcome!
I wish Ableton would create a Instrument Rack device which actually is managing the CPU and RAM properly. Like Gigperformer does. You know: Unloading the not-selected Instruments out of the RAM instead of keeping it there all the time
Thanks a lot for solve my problem
Sir thank so much.... I have a question... Can u tell me is it possible to layer the patch like using a slide.. The strings would came up...
Thank you very much! This was exactly what i was looking for. Best, Neno
Thank you!! But how do you map the button in your midi controller?
What if you want 2 or more synth to play simultaneously. Can you make dummy to other rows so 2 or more synth play?
After spending too many hours on this, I finally figured out why mapping the power on to the chain selector wasn't working for me. In the mapping parameters, make sure you have the chain selector's min/max going from 0-127 - I had adjusted mine to match how many instruments in the rack, i.e. 1-17 for 17 instruments.
Oh man this might be exactly what I needed right now !!!
HI nice video! really usefull, I have a question, how I can a loop in the same channel with this dummy clips? because I trying but its imposible. thank you, cheers.
This depends on whether you're trying to play back midi notes from a pre-made loop, create a new midi loop, or create a new audio loop. For the first option, you can just write midi notes in the dummy clip that has the preset change automation in it, making it no longer be a dummy clip, but still serve the same function. if you want to make a new midi loop while performing live, you can use the midi overdub function in Ableton to record your midi notes into one of the dummy clips live, or, you can set up an additional track to receive the midi input of your controller and set the track with the dummy clips and instrument device on it to receive midi from that track. That way you can record new midi loops in one track, and still freely use the dummy clips to change presets while those midi loops play back. As far as looping audio goes, this will unfortunately not work, since once you've recorded audio in a loop, you cannot change the preset sound of it without recording an entirely separate audio loop using the other preset sound.
This is a great technique. The only issue is if you have a track spread out over different scenes and are trying to use the dummy on the first scene to change instrument, that automation won't cary over when trying to record a new clip using the same patch in a later scene (i.e. the creation of a new clip resets the chain selector)... Any idea for a workaround?
Can't you just duplicate the dummy track for the next scene?
I have a few midi controllers that I use for live performance with multiple musicians and I midi mapped the macro knobs on said controllers to control separate parameters on the instrument racks on each separate track (say synth 1 on an arturia key lab 49 and a bass synth on an mpk mini) I midi mapped the macros on one controller to certain parameters. But, when I go to perform sometimes the knobs will control the parameters of the other synth or vice versa. I tried to assign each track to only receive midi information from one controller via the channels and "all ins." box. but, It's still not working. I'm also having an issue with mapping my korg nanopad's xy pad to be able to control x y grids like the chorus rate etc.... any tips or recommendations for videos to watch for help?
i am doing it the same way) very good for live sets
THANK YOU
haha that ending tho XD thanks for the great tutorial!
Nice. Thanks!
Thanks so much for the tutorial! It really helped!
I have a doubt, though: What if I need to filter my vsts with effects like EQ or Reverb? What could I do to give each VST its separated set of FXs?
Thanks! :)
Thank you...
For solving my problem...
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Alright. But instead of VST, can I use the sounds on my synthesizer and arrange them like what you did?
Grace George Abraham you could probably use program change messages or PC messages look into that
Device Presetto (Max4Live) does this too ;)
tried doing the instrument rack idea to map serum presets, got to about 100 and it was using 4gb of ram, with all devices apart from one switched off.
Thanks for the tip! :)
I'm building a vocal chain and everytime I get to Chain 7 it introduces latency. Do you have any idea what could be causing this? I have my chain disabling the previous effects as you mentioned.
This is most likely because whatever plugin you're using on chain 7 of your vocal FX rack is introducing latency. If you hover your mouse over that plugin and look at the info text on the very bottom of the Ableton window, it should tell you how many samples and miliseconds of latency the plugin introduces. to resolve this, you may need to switch to a zero-latency version of the plugin, or find another zero-latency plugin to do the same job.
I thought of that. but I don't believe that's the problem. For example I put effects in chain 6 then apply that to set number 6 and it works fine. I applied chain 6 to set 7 and now that set has latency. So using the the same preset on one set is fine, but just moving down one set introduces latency. I can't seem to figure out why. @@PyramindSF
Does this technique work with native FX presets?
HI...
How to use Single Instance of Kontakt with Multi Instruments in a Single Midi Channel using Dummy Clips ? please help me... (subscribed)
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Anyone knows how to do this in FL Studio? Thx! :)
Others instead of showing us how they do it they make templates and want your money on something that its not that hard to deal with if you understand how it works. Thank you so much
Should be cool mapping turn off and on devices to the same macro knob.
7:47 LOL
Great video however those are not presets, but racks. As far as I am concerned presets are inside of an instrrument.
I’ll save you 8 minutes. You can record / encode automation into clips even if they’re not truly making sound or sending MIDI notes out.