The metro stuff resizes correctly, because it's designed to work with multiple screen resolutions, which is basically the same thing as resizing, but for the whole screen if you think about it
In windows 10, the Metro apps run in a Metro mode (you can see a button that acts as replacement charms bar and a full screen button in the title bar) and they can be resized just fine. Also stardock made a program that lets you run Metro apps in windowed mode on Windwos 8 using some DWM trickery.
@@teamredstudio7012 I remember seeing TH-cam videos about that program, but I never used it, because I ran Windows 7 until July 2015, which is when Windows 10 came out
Same with early Windows 10 versions Went from 1511 to 1607, it's fast and probrably even more lightweight than Windows 7. 1703 and 1709, maybe slightly less so (still really smooth), went back to Windows 7 after a Windows Update failure, then upgraded to Win10 1909. It went to hell and back. Went to Windows 7 again due to OpenGL problems. Software is artifically refusing to launch for older Windows 10 versions, even if they run under Windows 7... Even worse so for Windows 8.0. Would run 1511/1709 if I could. Since Windows is assiocated with PCs, when Windows 12 comes around and does a bunch of bad things, more apps will only be avaliable through mobile and with websites forcing 2FA Authenticator and banks requiring SMS, by this point why use a PC.
I remember seeing a screenshot from Stardock [?] showing a program that basically did exactly that (probably Start8 or something like that). It was probably as simple as "start on boot, when Explorer loads, resize the Start screen's window".
@@tomjensen327I use it for a lot of combinations Win + L = Switch user Win + D = Go to desktop Win + Shift + S = Snipping Tool Win + G = Xbox Gamebar Win + (Numbers 0-9) = Open taskbar app from left to right Win = Bring up the start menu (and the taskbar when in fullscreen, borderless, and when it's set to hide automatically) Win + P = Change how multiple displays work, (1st Screen only, Duplicate, Extend, 2nd Screen only)
@@star80doessdastuff In many cases it isn't all that buggy because the window has a fill color the OS automatically paints on its background. UI duplication of the Snipping Tool may be due to having a specific VRAM allocation.
I think sidebar didn't crash in Win7, it was just hidden behind the resized window, so Alt+Tab or closing the resized window would have brought control back to the sidebar program.
Cool video. By the way, you can resize non-resizable windows (as well as showing programs that don't have windows, hiding programs that have them and so on -- I think this could make a neat video as well) simply using Windows C++ library :P
@@ArduinoTurkBatu it won't work, there's no way to do it but if you were to try then think: say -2 as a signed integer in binary is 110 (the first one determines its negative then the following numbers is the actual number) then instead of it being seen as -2, it'll be taken literally as binary 110 which is 6
@@handm36 Arch is a Bleeding edge distro that has to be maintained by the user. Yeah, I used Debian for a year but the downside of only shipping stable software is that bug fixes take a LOT to arrive. Kinda miss not having to update the system every week though (i'm temporarily on Fedora)
What about pressing numpad 5 on the normal desktop? Like desktop is just explorer, so will resizing the desktop reveal what human eyes were not supposed to see?
The desktop consists of multiple layers, the uppermost is just a transparent explorer window (literally called "folder view" if you were to enable the titlebar), under that there's a WorkerW window that displays the wallpaper, and underneath that is a Program Manager window that cannot be manipulated (this also displays the wallpaper but it might just be a visual glitch)
There's an error in the video. You are installing v2 of AutoHotkey, but you write the script in v1.1 syntax, which makes the script incompatible for anyone who's copying the code 1:1 for v2.
what is the music called at the beginning part of windows 10 and (the end part before you moved onto win10) the end of windows 8? and can you give me a link to the music i love it
@@Odswietny i have Windows 8.1 on my laptop. its almost an full year from 8.1 end of support. 10/01/2024 will be the day when an year passted from 8.1 EOS. (2023 is bullshit)
@@edwardcap7 painting the ui is solely done by the application itself. It either handles it and repositions or resizes its controls or not. You as the application get a "resized" event and you need to handle it.
wait in windows 8.1 in the paint color selection window there is an additional button appearing in the out-of-bounds, or at least the left end of a button. does that do anything?
Next video proposal: "What happens if you minimize non-minimizable apps using AutoHotkey in different versions of Windows?" (if minimalization is avaliable in AutoHotkey...)
You can actually do it with Task Manager (except certain apps shown in Windows 8.1+ in "What happens if you run explorer.exe from the login screen in different versions of Windows").
Most apps (if not all) just minimize/hide. You also cannot interact with ones that hide themselves in taskbar/task switcher. The ones that doesn't minimize by clicking the taskbar icon again are misconfigured by not listening to window manager minimize call. They can always call it themselves tho (like Spotify).
gadgets are made with html. "Gadgets are lightweight HTML and script-based applications that provide the abillity to derive and present information or functionality from a variety of sources, such as local applications and controls, or websites and services. Developers with experience authoring webpages will find the process of creating a gadget very familiar."
honestly native windows arent interessting when they resize like 95% of the time, only when its a special menu its interessting or very rarecases like osk or some programs that dont scale correctly but at least u can draw on the background:)
@Computer_User_EC611 It was said by Microsoft so if you want proof just research it. No point on making a video on something that is over 10 years old...
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris Make a video about it to prove that you are right... I got the official Windows Desktop Gadget Gallery. That's the product name. *End of discussion.*
@@edwardcap7 No one uses this version anymore unless they don't mind getting hacked by Russia. Also you shouldn't be telling people to use something that can get them hacked. Can get you in trouble for being the one that started the chain like what happened too that one guy for DoXing a Discord user.
You know i wouldn't mind if the start menu was open in the middle of the screen. but then again that just turns windows 8 into windows 10 with less polish
Windows 10 LTSC includes classic calculator since they removed a lot of UWP apps I think copying calculator from that version to normal Windows 10 might work
@@ThatRandomToast You are just saying the letters as if they are the meaning of the full words... And yet still says noting about what it is, shows how much you even know to be talking shit. You even know what that does? All you said so far is the words and letters, the letters twice in the same comment. That shows nothing on you knowing what it is so you can't be telling anyone to learn it. I mean damn dude my grandpa created the IBM logo but I can't prove it just the same as you can't prove that my grandpa didn't do it. Clearly you don't understand how the internet works.
Clicking on advanced mode on Char Map does resize it, just not freely by the user. Jk and I am an OG AHK method coder. I use this to make my own games and software that can shut down games. I even made malware using this.
access the window for some apps which the window normally doesn't show for via process hacker and then resize that for applications like winlogon.exe and wininit.exe windows will definetly crash
Remove the r off "gray"
How did this get pinned
Idk that was unexpected
@@aquilesroblox lol
@@triangle-angle bruh
*no*
The metro stuff resizes correctly, because it's designed to work with multiple screen resolutions, which is basically the same thing as resizing, but for the whole screen if you think about it
In windows 10, the Metro apps run in a Metro mode (you can see a button that acts as replacement charms bar and a full screen button in the title bar) and they can be resized just fine. Also stardock made a program that lets you run Metro apps in windowed mode on Windwos 8 using some DWM trickery.
@@teamredstudio7012 I remember seeing TH-cam videos about that program, but I never used it, because I ran Windows 7 until July 2015, which is when Windows 10 came out
@@teamredstudio7012 That can be seen in WinRT (not Windows RT) apps, such as City Art Search.
so pretty much they already made it to be resizeable, they just disabled it for you to do it purposefully right? thats pretty cool
@@teamredstudio7012 you can run metro apps in a window in Windows Technical Preview
2007 was calling. It says they want their video back.
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hi im 2007 and thank you @@World_of_OSes
Your point is?
schwanz
@@World_of_OSestell them they cant take you alive
I really enjoyed how much smooth Win8.1 was.
Even had it on a 2GB Intel Atom cheap tablet and I was amazed on how good it was.
Same with early Windows 10 versions
Went from 1511 to 1607, it's fast and probrably even more lightweight than Windows 7. 1703 and 1709, maybe slightly less so (still really smooth), went back to Windows 7 after a Windows Update failure, then upgraded to Win10 1909. It went to hell and back. Went to Windows 7 again due to OpenGL problems.
Software is artifically refusing to launch for older Windows 10 versions, even if they run under Windows 7... Even worse so for Windows 8.0. Would run 1511/1709 if I could.
Since Windows is assiocated with PCs, when Windows 12 comes around and does a bunch of bad things, more apps will only be avaliable through mobile and with websites forcing 2FA Authenticator and banks requiring SMS, by this point why use a PC.
@@mwew_n3ptune311 You can still run Windows 10 1511 and 1607 with the LTSB releases, they receive security updates for 10 years! :)
@@mwew_n3ptune311Windows 10 1809 broke a pot of stuff, incl metro apps, 21h1 got decent
@@mwew_n3ptune311why use a PC?
Because you use it instead of the other way around. It using you.
Fuck all mobile apps.
@@mwew_n3ptune311 i use 1507. its verry light but has worst compatability than 8.1
So Windows 8 fiasco could've been easily avoided by having a smaller Start screen on left bottom, like any other Start menu.
Only if the power button is added early.
I mean, it’s design is good, but not at that time. Take MacOS and GNOME as an example, they provides a semi-fullscreen experience too.
I remember seeing a screenshot from Stardock [?] showing a program that basically did exactly that (probably Start8 or something like that). It was probably as simple as "start on boot, when Explorer loads, resize the Start screen's window".
Windows 10
you got unpinned rip
Nice attention to detail on the Windows key!
No one EVER uses that key😢!
Super key?
@@tomjensen327I use it for a lot of combinations
Win + L = Switch user
Win + D = Go to desktop
Win + Shift + S = Snipping Tool
Win + G = Xbox Gamebar
Win + (Numbers 0-9) = Open taskbar app from left to right
Win = Bring up the start menu (and the taskbar when in fullscreen, borderless, and when it's set to hide automatically)
Win + P = Change how multiple displays work, (1st Screen only, Duplicate, Extend, 2nd Screen only)
what are you expecting? the Easter egg will pop out?
hahah
no, bugs and funny visual effects
Longest egg hunt ever
@@star80doessdastuff In many cases it isn't all that buggy because the window has a fill color the OS automatically paints on its background.
UI duplication of the Snipping Tool may be due to having a specific VRAM allocation.
It was interesting doing it with the Metro apps in Windows 8.1, and with the system UI on all of Windows versions.
this feels like we're unlocking a hidden room in a game where the devs didn't intended it to be accessible
10:01 Woah, I love that large gadget window on Windows 7 with all of that Aero transparency all around the big window.
Request: How the print test page looks like in different OSes?
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I think sidebar didn't crash in Win7, it was just hidden behind the resized window, so Alt+Tab or closing the resized window would have brought control back to the sidebar program.
Windows 8 could be a great OS if they just make the Metro start 70% size in the center and add some Gaussian blur around it
Pointless
@@_kitaes_ True but it would be much less bad
@@saltcutep HOW
At least add the power button like what they did with KB2919355 for Windows 8.1.
@@saltcutep The metro start isn't bad at all. You interact with it for a couple of minutes per day. Why does that matter so much?
Cool video. By the way, you can resize non-resizable windows (as well as showing programs that don't have windows, hiding programs that have them and so on -- I think this could make a neat video as well) simply using Windows C++ library :P
Underrated channel, Subscribed!
idk why, but i just enjoy watching his vids in the background, it just feels right
2:44 That was what I was thinking about what's behind the windows 8.1 start menu window?
unironically the metro start looks really good while scaled like that
so just win 10's start
can you make video about how different os handles low battery
video idea: what if you resize to a negative number? or a number that below the minimum/maximum size of the window?
Window size can't be negative, it's an unsigned integer which means it can only be a positive whole number
@@Ed.E but what if we resize to a negative number, like the system crashes or something else?
@@ArduinoTurkBatu it won't work, there's no way to do it but if you were to try then think: say -2 as a signed integer in binary is 110 (the first one determines its negative then the following numbers is the actual number) then instead of it being seen as -2, it'll be taken literally as binary 110 which is 6
If it's possible, what happens when you resize LogonUI?
or the oobe
In Windows XP, Pinball game is non resizable and non maximizable but if you try to resize and maximise it what it will happen?
13:58
You can also maximize any non resizable window with task manager - right click - maximize
I did that here: th-cam.com/video/xBKSvvGwM-M/w-d-xo.html
As a linux user, I gotta admit... Windows is so goddamm stable
P
I have older hardware and arch Linux never really was stable, I switched to Debian and it made all the difference
@@handm36 Arch is a Bleeding edge distro that has to be maintained by the user.
Yeah, I used Debian for a year but the downside of only shipping stable software is that bug fixes take a LOT to arrive. Kinda miss not having to update the system every week though (i'm temporarily on Fedora)
@@ariel_chess Imo, Its better then resetting every 1-2 months because the nvidia driver doesn't wanna work anymore.(I'm using gt 730)
But on my laptop, Arch is way better but some packages just break
00:06 Win8.1 From 2013
05:58 W10 From 2015
08:35 W11 From 2021
09:48 Win7 From 2009
11:58 WinVista From 2007
13:33 WinXP From 2001
Is there an AutoHotkey script that can make the Start Screen not fullscreen, like in this video, but in the corner?
Yes, you can adjust the size and position by changing the numbers in the AutoHotkey script.
Start8 should be able to do this natively.
@@World_of_OSesI did that, and now I am happy.
What about pressing numpad 5 on the normal desktop? Like desktop is just explorer, so will resizing the desktop reveal what human eyes were not supposed to see?
The desktop consists of multiple layers, the uppermost is just a transparent explorer window (literally called "folder view" if you were to enable the titlebar), under that there's a WorkerW window that displays the wallpaper, and underneath that is a Program Manager window that cannot be manipulated (this also displays the wallpaper but it might just be a visual glitch)
lol. the desktop is the Program Manager
There's an error in the video. You are installing v2 of AutoHotkey, but you write the script in v1.1 syntax, which makes the script incompatible for anyone who's copying the code 1:1 for v2.
If you run an AutoHotkey v1.1 script using AutoHotkey v2, it automatically downloads AutoHotkey v1.1.
@@World_of_OSes what is "num 5"? is it a combination of number lock and F5?
Numpad 5 maybe
@@lilythatlittlecatnumpad 5
what is the music called at the beginning part of windows 10 and (the end part before you moved onto win10) the end of windows 8? and can you give me a link to the music i love it
Approaching Nirvana - Keystone
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What version of windows you use ? how much ram cpu and hard disk?
It just basically means that standard non-resizable apps implement WM_PAINT message in absolute coordinates which is fine for the default UI.
Vague knowledge flex for no reason
@@mariocamspam72go explain cleaner 🤔
Bro what is your bitrate it's so visible, it genuinly felt like i was looking at an actual windows xp installation running on my pc
script name: app-resizing-script
shortcut=numpad5
area-to-resize=1280_800
direction-to-move=center
create script
2:41 multitasking with Metro... That's Windows 10 UWP
This is the type of thing you would randomly think about while going to sleep
Man... I miss Windows 8 so much. I actually liked how it looked
I have used it in a VM for a while and I liked it.
@@Odswietny i have Windows 8.1 on my laptop. its almost an full year from 8.1 end of support. 10/01/2024 will be the day when an year passted from 8.1 EOS. (2023 is bullshit)
@@Galaxy.Windows By 10/01/2024, do you mean 10th January 2024, or October 1st 2024?
@@World_of_OSes i said EOS of Windows 8.1. so probably 10th January 2024. aslo, i dont use MM/DD/YYYY. i use DD/MM/YYYY
do i change the file extension of the ahk file??????????????
But... has nothing to do with the operating system, it is only how the actual program handles it.
It actually has something to do with the OS; specifically its core elements of window handling and rendering.
@@edwardcap7 painting the ui is solely done by the application itself. It either handles it and repositions or resizes its controls or not. You as the application get a "resized" event and you need to handle it.
wait in windows 8.1 in the paint color selection window there is an additional button appearing in the out-of-bounds, or at least the left end of a button. does that do anything?
What if you try to resize the DESKTOP? What will hapen then?
Nothing
@@World_of_OSes sad
Next video proposal: "What happens if you minimize non-minimizable apps using AutoHotkey in different versions of Windows?" (if minimalization is avaliable in AutoHotkey...)
You can actually do it with Task Manager (except certain apps shown in Windows 8.1+ in "What happens if you run explorer.exe from the login screen in different versions of Windows").
Most apps (if not all) just minimize/hide. You also cannot interact with ones that hide themselves in taskbar/task switcher.
The ones that doesn't minimize by clicking the taskbar icon again are misconfigured by not listening to window manager minimize call. They can always call it themselves tho (like Spotify).
Hey, do you have Discord by any chance? i would like to discuss a better alternative for that
i have discord!
10:28 that song makes me feel like sad because makes me remember nice memories and i cry because there are gone. anyway, how i get that song
Jeremy Blake - Sunspots
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add the r back onto "gray"
I do not get the Dash Window though.
gadgets are made with html. "Gadgets are lightweight HTML and script-based applications that provide the abillity to derive and present information or functionality from a variety of sources, such as local applications and controls, or websites and services. Developers with experience authoring webpages will find the process of creating a gadget very familiar."
honestly native windows arent interessting when they resize like 95% of the time, only when its a special menu its interessting or very rarecases like osk or some programs that dont scale correctly but at least u can draw on the background:)
also u should have resized stuff like oobe or logonui
Sotp!!!!
@@TS2021_ME yes sotp
I watched this immediately when it’s published
I too
Me too
Me 2
It's already possible to maximize un-maximizable windows with task manager
What Happens If Startup Fails In Different OS?
Why did you do 7 after 11?
I went in date order from Windows 8.1 to 11, then went in reverse date order from Windows 7 to XP.
@@World_of_OSes Ah like Star Wars
what if you resize a window smaller than it allows you to
2:33 looks better than was
Autohotkey? Nah, Scott’s window resizer is where it’s at
Out of curiosity, how much VMs do you have?
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What happens when you resize a window running in exclusive fullscreen?
yeah, like a videogame or something
You already said that line a moment ago, Repeating scripts?
?
@@World_of_OSes Watch your video
Awesome video
can you please do the login screens
it's kinda cool btw😛
do you still use windows 8.1?
Windows 8.
It's been a while
u can maximize everything using task manager btw
Try that in some Linux distros pls. Good video btw.
Those are not called Gadgets and were removed because of a security flaw with them. They had a different name for them, Widgets.
No? They are called gadgets, you Apple fanboy, but yes, they were removed due to a security vulnerability
@@vlOd_yt I mean I have been using Windows since before Windows 98 days. You don't know anything about me nor Windows to be talking shit like that...
@Computer_User_EC611 It was said by Microsoft so if you want proof just research it. No point on making a video on something that is over 10 years old...
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris Make a video about it to prove that you are right... I got the official Windows Desktop Gadget Gallery. That's the product name. *End of discussion.*
@@edwardcap7 No one uses this version anymore unless they don't mind getting hacked by Russia. Also you shouldn't be telling people to use something that can get them hacked. Can get you in trouble for being the one that started the chain like what happened too that one guy for DoXing a Discord user.
You can do this by maximizing them using task manager
I did that here: th-cam.com/video/xBKSvvGwM-M/w-d-xo.html
When you mess up with windows....
You know i wouldn't mind if the start menu was open in the middle of the screen. but then again that just turns windows 8 into windows 10 with less polish
what happends if you press window + num 5 in shut down or in log in?
It does nothing
@@World_of_OSes oh ok
Windows 8/8.1 hate could've been avoided if they kept the Start button and the Win7 Start menu style
what the code to resize it?
github.com/StefanGrace/ResizeApps
Love 3:42
Welp time to make a better wm than any other wm out there
Restart Explorer no longer a thing, but you can still restart it. Faster method is to use a bat file.
?
@@World_of_OSes Task Manager does not have restart button. Or the talk about bat file?
@@World_of_OSes Did you pin my comment just to have everyone attack me for being right?
How about Windows 7 calculator on Windows 10?
Windows 10 LTSC includes classic calculator since they removed a lot of UWP apps
I think copying calculator from that version to normal Windows 10 might work
Winaero also provides an installer for classic calculator
th-cam.com/video/A5msQP32eqU/w-d-xo.html
They are not really called UWP Apps.
Then what are they called
@@Ed.E AppX apps. Not many people knows this though. The X is for 10 just like the Windows version.
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris AppX is just a packaging format and tool, like .msi. The actual platform is called UWP.
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris What's a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app? - UWP applications | Microsoft Learn
@@ThatRandomToast You are just saying the letters as if they are the meaning of the full words... And yet still says noting about what it is, shows how much you even know to be talking shit. You even know what that does? All you said so far is the words and letters, the letters twice in the same comment. That shows nothing on you knowing what it is so you can't be telling anyone to learn it. I mean damn dude my grandpa created the IBM logo but I can't prove it just the same as you can't prove that my grandpa didn't do it. Clearly you don't understand how the internet works.
2:33 Wind8
The metro titlebar gives me linux vibes Bc i used to have a titlebar like that in kde
help,how to fix search bar
restart programm
Alt + F4 at 9:42
Stefan?
4:53 yay
Unresizable/unmaximizable apps can be maximized by just using the default task manager in windows instead of autohotkey
Clicking on advanced mode on Char Map does resize it, just not freely by the user. Jk and I am an OG AHK method coder. I use this to make my own games and software that can shut down games. I even made malware using this.
well.. That was interesting, lol
Make short video maybe you try doing the same but Windows 10 1803 older builds
He cant keep getting away with this!
How is this content so popular?
Try in Windows 7 bro😊😊😊.
That isn't called Win32 apps.
@Computer_User_EC611 That's not the case. You should research how computers works. Or research how to AHK.
Nice.
Are you sure that is a 1280x800 area? Could be 720. Jk
I had another idea:
What if you resize a non resizeable app smaller than it is?
Then the frame will cut off the app contents
@@newsuperbowserworld ohh
access the window for some apps which the window normally doesn't show for via process hacker and then resize that for applications like winlogon.exe and wininit.exe windows will definetly crash
I knew AutoHotkey was an app!
Windowify the metro start menu and resize it
9:37 i hope that’s not your real email address
It's only a throw-away one that I made for that Windows 11 VM.
AutoHotkey ftw
Try with search too, I am sure that it's still a window.
He did it at 6:22 and 8:56
I don't need sleep. I need answers.
next video: what happens if you open the start menu in different windows
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What do you think😂😂