commenting for the algorithm but... i can see how much time and effort you put into this video bro i really appreciate it. all the research you did and all the different saves you had to record, not to mention the editing. you're easily the most underrated civ player on youtube. i really hope your channel grows man you deserve it!
Thanks Katie, I appreciate you taking the time to leave such a detailed comment and also just for commenting in general for the algorithm as well lol I'm happy to do it though. I enjoy helping people learn and get better at the game and getting to interact with them and hear their stories about this or that new achievement they've accomplished with the help of my channel :)
Better late than never, I guess. Eh, speaking of late, sorry about the late reply. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll help as much as I can.
Thanks Michael, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I do have both a Standard Game Governor video on my list of 60+ videos I'm working on as well as a Secret Societies based one. I'll move the Secret Societies one up towards the top of the list though since I have a Sanguine Pact Guide that I just finished a script for this morning so it will tie in well as a complementary video. Thanks for the feedback! :)
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I really do appreciate it. And sorry about my late response. I didn't mean to be a douche. I'm glad to hear you found the video helpful though. It means a lot to me that the things I create can help people get better at the game.
Awesome content as always! I love this type of useful stuff! I’ve been wanting to sum up some of the “easy” eureka and inspirations wanting to see how effective they are, thanks for doing the hard work for me!
Haha no problem Zeffary, I'm glad you found the video helpful. Remember you can shoot me an email if you want a .doc or .pdf version for easy reference. Cheers! :)
Great stuff. I appreciate the effort/research you obviously put into this. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing it; it is great content, but I feel it's very oversimplified. I acknowledge that you mentioned that this tactic applies to peaceful games; I would recommend that you explain why - and that is because it assumes that all of these units survive the entirety of the game. Now I've had all-out domination games on deity, most of them in fact, without losing a single unit, but things happen during a game and filling out this checklist for the sole purpose of reaping the reward described can lead to investing in a lot of units, production that could be used elsewhere, and also paying maintenance for them every turn (more on that later.) Great example here is the catapults, which are bad scouting units as well as bad defensive units and really don't serve a purpose other than taking cities, which is not the intended strat for this tactic and they could be lost even peacefully to a bad disaster result. And yes, making the units exclusively for the intention of fulfilling this quest does have several tangential benefits (first meets, more huts, circumnav, and most importantly raising your "Don't Tread on Me" military score.) Also, there's several ways in which this treats yields (i.e. a single production, science, culture, faith, or gold unit) as if the value of that yield is static throughout the game, when they really aren't. While looking at the "total number of beakers and culture-thingys" that you're saving is technically true, it's quite misleading as it implies that, for example, hitting the machinery eureka (saving 110 beakers) is only 1/5 as valuable as hitting the Combined Arms eureka (saving 592 beakers), when we both know that the benefit that X-bows provide at that time is much more valuable than anything provided by Combined Arms during that later time. Much more applicable to gameplay to consider the total number or eurekaspirations than the total number of beakers. It's very much "spend 5 dollars now to earn 50 dollars later" when you currently only have 5 dollars to your name (and you're hungry), and you will be rewarded the $50 when you're getting 200 dollars per turn anyway. Great example here is having 3 heavy chariots. That means spending 195 hammers, which is half of the cost of the Colossus (which would help you pay the maintenance for all these units you're building) and having three for the sake of the eureka doesn't pay off until Composites, and many cultural, religious (and domination) games are finished before hitting this tech, so it never pays off. Yes, getting the earlier units and upgrading is more efficient than hard-building the upgrades, but when the upgrades become available you have more cities that are larger with more infrastructure to make that higher cost still a much lower percentage of your output at the time. And then there's the aforementioned main antagonist point to this strat - maintenance. You're paying gold per turn, every turn, on the units that won't reap the eureka rewards until later, sometimes much later. 2 galleys, 1 spearman, and 3 catapults have a combined maintenance cost of 9 GPT, and when you added the 3 newly-upgraded archers and swordsman, this now becomes 18 GPT which again, in the late-game when you're making 2500 GPT is inconsequential, but it comes at a time when your making more like 15-50 GPT. By upgrading to keep your military score on point, you're also spending strategic resources which could otherwise be sold. And later with the units that consume resources per turn, you could accidentally lock yourself out of being able to have some power plants because your coal and oil is maintaining the units which sometimes still haven't paid off the eureka they're eventually going to provide. Oh, side note - you really should point out that the eurekaspirations that are triggered by "kill a unit with (X unit) are also triggered if that unit takes a city. This really helps as the RNG will often round up or down a little bit on an attack so when you pop something with a X-bow to prep for killing with a knight, the X-bow will sometimes kill the unit accidentally or the knight misses the kill by a HP or two. With a city, you attack with everything until it gets really low, then pop it with ranged and siege units until it's at 0 HP (sometimes it's hard to see whether there's a sliver of health or not, you know the city is at 0 HP when the ranged unit doesn't receive experience for the attack) and then the (X unit) will always take the city if the city is at 0 HP, even if the (X unit) only has 1 HP itself. Another note: if people are playing GS or later versions of the game, the agoge part is correct. But I remember in earlier versions of the game, it was very strict about agoge only affecting units that are unlocked with ancient or classical techs, and as warriors and slingers (as well as war carts, eagle warriors, etc) are unlocked from the start of the game without being unlocked with an ancient or classical tech, they were, I guess "pre-ancient" units and did not receive production bonus through agoge. I'd summarize by saying that making this list isn't necessarily a bad idea for beginners, but it's usually more beneficial to weigh out the cost:benefit ratio of builds and tech-pathing, and the earlier it is the more important this is. Beginners should keep an eye on upcoming eurekaspirations and figure out how long it's going to take to trigger them, and devise tech-pathing that allows the needed time to trigger them. There are select times when the benefits from spending the extra time to get a tech earlier without the bonus is worth it, like for a strategy-centric wonder or a unit that will save you from a swarming neighbor. Most of the time though, it is often worth it to get techs that are boosted but not as needed earlier than desired techs which you need a few turns to trigger that eureka (ahem... printing... ahem) For advanced players, having all of the eurekas and inspirations memorized and using that knowledge to more efficiently get through the tech and civics trees is beneficial. I'd also point out that if the main reason you're getting these units is to hit these boosts, the focus should be more on getting them right before they obsolete rather than as soon as they are unlocked, as once again since you have more stuff to make more stuff later, you're allocating a smaller percentage of your total resources to make that gain. Cheers!
Hey I read some of this but I just finished streaming for 11 hours straight so I'll have to look through it again tomorrow when I'm home from work. From what I've read there were valid points, but I also have counterpoints haha so we can continue this tomorrow. I just didn't want to leave you hanging for so long when you clearly took the time to write such a detailed analysis and comment.
@@kipblass2131 You deleted it and now I can't read more than 3 lines of it haha... but yeah I have slept now. I'll read and respond to the original comment after I watch the Byzantine sneak peak and upload a video on it. But don't worry... I LOVE long comments and getting into good conversations regarding civs especially when it comes to tactics and efficiency etc I'm looking forward to responding in kind! :)
@@GamerGrampz OK so I commented on this response but posted it under the wrong comment (Miguel Estevez's), then left a reply to this comment apologizing for the oopsie, then I figured out how to delete the first comment but now can't find the 2nd comment to delete it, Apologies, I'm an old fart! What I wanted to say it that it's allllll good! I acknowledge that most YT comments are off-the-cuff responses to the video which can be addressed with an off-the-cuff reply. Whereas my comments are after watching the video 3 times, watching it a 4th time while pausing and taking notes, watching it a fifth time while pausing to check Civfanatics, CivWiki, and other resources for accuracy and applicability, then starting the comment while referencing parts of the video, then proof-reading, then reading again while attempting to take the perspective of the comment's recipient and adjusting accordingly. I totally understand that it takes more time to respond to all of that and that you have other things going on- if it takes you a week or a month to respond to my babbling I would not feel neglected, ignored, or slighted at all! I do appreciate how highly you prioritize getting back to everyone who comments, all while posting as much content as you do all while having a life, and I also totally understand that some days you want to just grab a few beers and chill! The previous comment was pretty much playing Devil's Advocate. What I do in most games is pretty close to what you're describing, and I hit all but 1 or 2 Eurekas, except when it gets to the point where they can only be triggered by GS, and I finish the game before that point in all but science and diplomatic games, if you have any advice on consistently triggering those Eurekas, I'm all ears. It's just that making an actual list and trying to check off all the boxes may be diverting your attention (and resources) from some other important things... Cheers!
@@kipblass2131 No worries at all, I'm looking forward to digging in deeper to the OP. And yeah basically I usually hit 90% of my Eurekas and Inspirations in most games when I'm min/maxing and playing efficiently. I think the only late game inspiration that always fucks me and I've yet to get it even once even though I always try for it is the Inspiration for the Globalization Civic lmao FUCK those 3 fully upgraded Aerodomes lmao
I like the video a lot. really high quality, but I would recommend trying to shorten the intro a bit because 2mins+ is heavy. I'm glad you did use those 2mins+ to say valuable things though.
Thanks for your input I appreciate the comment and I'll definitely keep it in mind going forward. sorry about the long. overdue reply taking so long. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in about 3 years now because of some personal reasons. I just restarted the chat on this past week though. So there is some new content out now on my channel and we'll be regularly going forward if you are still interested in civilization 6. Hope life finds you well these days take care.
@@GamerGrampz Damn a reply after three years! Thats awesome. My life is entirely different now I don'y play civ 6 but I'm happy you're back. Good luck my friend.
Sorry again for the wait. Out of curiousity, are you into Baldur's Gate 3 or Bannerlord? I'm asking because I'm actually about to be starting to make content for those games too and I'm just wondering how many people who've watched my channel are interested in them@@sebastienbolh210
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I'm glad that you found the video helpful. Sorry about the late reply. I didn't mean to be a douche. Today's just my first day back on the channel after three years. So going forward, if you comment, it won't take me two years to reply. If you're interested in checking out the new video, you can find it here: th-cam.com/video/OxBGStjVVr8/w-d-xo.html
Sorry about the late reply. I haven't been on this channel in a long time until just the other day where I've officially started to back up now but I appreciate you taking the time to leave the comment and I'm happy to hear you found it helpful. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask and I promise I won't leave you hanging for two years this time.
Hey, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment. I definitely appreciate it. I'm so sorry that it took me this long to respond to you. I didn't mean to be a douche and ignore you or anything like that. I just honestly haven't been on this channel for about 3 years now because of some personal reasons. I just started the channel backup and running again this past week, though. So there's some new content out on my channel now and we'll be regularly going forward if you're still interested in civilization 6. hope life has treated you well since you left this comment take care.
Thanks man, I'm glad you found the video helpful! I say this all the time but if you ever have specific questions don't hesitate to leave a comment and ask me. I'm happy to help when I can. Or if there are specific subjects you'd like to see videos made on feel free to suggest them to me and I'll add them to my list if I don't already have something planned for the subject already! :)
Hey, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment on the video. I'm sorry it took me this long to reply to you. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in about three years now because of personal reasons. I just started it back up and running again this week though, so there is new content out on my channel now and will be regularly going forward if you're still interested in civilizations 6. if you still wanted the document, my email is Realgamergrampz@gmail.com I hope life is treating you well these days. Anyway, take care.
I noticed a small bar just under the Civic window, showing things like a City Centre icon and such, and also the City State Panel looks a bit different too, with the quests displayed right under their name. Is this part of a mod, and if so, which one are you using? I'd be interested in checking it out, myself.
Hey Ronnie, yeah I have a bunch of different mods I use. Concise UI is the one that changes the city-state panel, and then I think it's Sukritact's Simple UI Adjustments that does what you're talking about for the City Center changes. You can find all the UI mods I use and the features that I like in them here in this video: th-cam.com/video/u2MY6dR3z7U/w-d-xo.html But if you use Concise there is a glitch with it currently that you have to fix manually to make it work. You have to disable the Espionage features it has in the mod folder itself. If you don't know how to do that here's a short video to walk you through the process step by step: th-cam.com/video/PlL7vmYu-9o/w-d-xo.html&
@@ronnielozynsky7919 Of course man, no worries at all. I respond to every comment on any of my videos and reading through them and interacting with people in the community here is really no shit my favourite part of this whole YT experience.
Now I can make a good use of a militarist policies card when I am in a peaceful game. I remember that you said in the greek peaceful science vic to use Veterancy for that sweet 30% production for harbor, since then i have been using it in every game.
Yup, just keep in mind that if you're playing a culture game you are better off only getting a handful of harbours and concentrating more on commercial hubs simply because there are a lot better great merchants that will help you win faster than the impact the great admirals will have on your win times! :)
I just discorvered your channel, im also from Canada (Quebec) and im really happy to find canadian channel about enjoy civ 6, and i really apreciate your guide, thanks for making those guide! Keep up the good work man!
Thanks Gab, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and what you've seen of the channel so far. You'll have to let me know if you find more of my videos helpful or not. I say this all the time, but I do mean it... if you ever have any questions don't hesitate to leave a comment and ask me. With the amount of time I've played this game I usually can help out with most things :)
Lol, thanks Ryan! How did you do in Fantasy this week? I didn't really pay much attention to anybody's game other than mine since I was too busy getting drunk watching the Saints beat Tom Brady lol
Wait. Since when the city states bar shows directly the quest that they give to player? I always have to click on to the city state to show the quest. And how those icons show how many adjecency you get if you place a district there?
Good question Ludba, It's actually from a User Interface mod that I use. Unfortunately, I use a handful of them and can't remember off the top of my head which one does that specific thing. You can find a video here where I talk about which mods I use and why if you're interested in learning more: th-cam.com/video/u2MY6dR3z7U/w-d-xo.html& Happy New Years, Tyler
Glad you found it helpful Nemesis. If you have any particular areas you're struggling with let me know and I can prioritize videos on those subjects as a way of saying thanks for all of your continued support! :)
Thanks David, glad that you enjoyed the content man. Are there any subjects that you'd like to see me cover or even just cover BETTER in the near future?
@@shock_n_Aweful no worries on my end either... always appreciate learning something new. Are you sure that it's not pronounced Ah-go-yay though? Like skip to 13:15 in this video th-cam.com/video/OxBGStjVVr8/w-d-xo.html if you have a sec... that's what I mean.
@@GamerGrampzI'm certain, it came from a Greek born ancient history professor. I would imagine people who like the building call it Ah-go-yay as a play on words that may have spread around to people who were unaware they were "making a funny"
For future reference Agoge is pronounced “ago-gee”. The “gee” is pronounced like the first part of “geese”. Agoge was the Spartan warrior training camp that all male children had to attend throughout their childhood and teenage years. Awesome vid by the way. I often overlook Eureka’s.
Lol Ryan, thanks for the heads up. Pronunciation is my kryptonite! :P However, with this one I'm actually completely aware that I'm pronouncing it wrong but I pronounced it wrong for so long that when I learned the correct way I actually think that sounds fucking stupid compared with the wrong way lmao There's basically two things I say wrong but am too stubborn to pronounce properly: Agoge, and Melee. I'm aware Melee should be MAYLAY, but I still use MEELEE because I'm stubborn as balls. Occasionally with that one I do pronounce it properly but with Agoge I don't even make the attempt because I think the proper way just sounds dumb as balls :) PS. Glad you found the video helpful!
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Sorry for the late reply, Zach. I haven't been on this channel for like three years until just the other day. I officially started it back up. Otherwise I would have gotten back to you a lot sooner than two years. Well, II guess whether you want three units or not all depends on whether you want to get through the tech tree faster or not
Hey man, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment. I definitely appreciate it. I'm sorry it took me this long to reply to you. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in over three years now for personal reasons. I just started it back up and running again this week though, and there's some new content out now and we'll be regularly going forward if you are still interested in civilization 6. anyway, hopefully life's treated you well since you left this comment and you're doing pretty good now too take care.
Appreciate you taking the time to leave the feedback. I am going to be re filming the fanatical blurb because I think it drones on too long in its current form. That being said, if you have a problem with a 15 second CTA about liking the video and a short message that helps me actually earn a bit of money back for the time I invest in the channel than I'd probably suggest you look elsewhere for your Civ content. I'd recommend TheGameMechanic or SaxyGamer as good places to start where the channel's also have a similar focus on teaching and instruction etc Take care! :)
i think i know plenty of youtubers around civ. yes i disliked as i was told to like if i enjoy i like only music thus have fat library over the ages i can easily come back for everytime. and rarely dislike. im stressed out today i start in new job and you interupting for idk which time, i lost it. had to also skip few minutes cuz they also werent what i came for
and im pretty advanced in civ myself i beat deity dozen times im around your channel cuz i like civ and enjoy its content created. is why i criticize u my man so i can enjoy you a bit more i guess. being content creator aint eazy i delete the dislike. since you care about criticizm can take it and react like a man
@@Skacy69 No problem at all man, I didn't mean for that to come across as "fuck off go watch other youtubers then" lol It's just that it's very hard to make any money directly from TH-cam until your channel hits like 50-100k subs so you have to make money somehow and part of the way I do that is through affiliate links, and the comission from Fanatical. This video took literally about 12 hours to make between writing the script, doing the research, and filming and editing etc so from my point of view if people want to get the information I'm offering then they can cringe and suck it up and just deal with a 40 second commercial advertising an easy way that my community can help me pay the bills since TH-cam itself certainly isn't lol
@@Skacy69 No problem at all. I'm definitely okay with hearing criticism and look forward to it actually because I do want to get better and put more enjoyable content out there. Just sometimes the reply to the criticism isn't going to be what the person who commented wants to hear, and so that's why I suggested those channels is because they make good stuff and I realize that my channel might not be for everybody. Glad that you enjoy the channel though and I do hope you stick around. That Fanatical ad is on my list to redo it and shorten it, but honestly with all of the stuff I have planned I'm probably not going to have a chance to get to that and re film it for another week or two. It's constructive criticism like yours that made me realize that it is too long in it's current state and I need to tighten it up so I still have it included and it helps to generate money for me but the message is more direct and straight forward so it isn't such a significant interruption to the flow of the videos it is in.
Oh, that's sweet. I'm glad you took the time to leave a comment on my video. Appreciate the help. Sorry it took me so long to reply to your comment though. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in over three years now for personal reasons. I started it back up again this past week though, and there's some new content out now and we'll be regularly going forward. If you're still interested in civilization 6. anyway, despite you leaving the **** comment. I still hope you're doing well these days. Take care.
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commenting for the algorithm but... i can see how much time and effort you put into this video bro i really appreciate it. all the research you did and all the different saves you had to record, not to mention the editing. you're easily the most underrated civ player on youtube. i really hope your channel grows man you deserve it!
Thanks Katie, I appreciate you taking the time to leave such a detailed comment and also just for commenting in general for the algorithm as well lol
I'm happy to do it though. I enjoy helping people learn and get better at the game and getting to interact with them and hear their stories about this or that new achievement they've accomplished with the help of my channel :)
All of these techniques also help a lot with Tech Shuffle mode for ANY win condition.
Very true Aaron, I didn't even think of that as I haven't even tried that Game Mode yet lol
Thanks for the heads up! :)
picked up the game late, really appreciate all the tips on efficiency. seems like you can only find 101-style videos on YT
Better late than never, I guess. Eh, speaking of late, sorry about the late reply. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll help as much as I can.
As always great content! I was wondering if you could do a video on governors, especially with secret societies in the mix.
Thanks Michael, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I do have both a Standard Game Governor video on my list of 60+ videos I'm working on as well as a Secret Societies based one.
I'll move the Secret Societies one up towards the top of the list though since I have a Sanguine Pact Guide that I just finished a script for this morning so it will tie in well as a complementary video.
Thanks for the feedback! :)
Thank you for creating all these nice videos, fun to watch and i learn a lot 😊
No problem. I'm glad you find them helpful. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help you out.
Loved the video, thanks man!
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I really do appreciate it. And sorry about my late response. I didn't mean to be a douche. I'm glad to hear you found the video helpful though. It means a lot to me that the things I create can help people get better at the game.
Awesome content as always! I love this type of useful stuff!
I’ve been wanting to sum up some of the “easy” eureka and inspirations wanting to see how effective they are, thanks for doing the hard work for me!
Haha no problem Zeffary, I'm glad you found the video helpful. Remember you can shoot me an email if you want a .doc or .pdf version for easy reference.
Cheers! :)
Great stuff. I appreciate the effort/research you obviously put into this. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing it; it is great content, but I feel it's very oversimplified.
I acknowledge that you mentioned that this tactic applies to peaceful games; I would recommend that you explain why - and that is because it assumes that all of these units survive the entirety of the game. Now I've had all-out domination games on deity, most of them in fact, without losing a single unit, but things happen during a game and filling out this checklist for the sole purpose of reaping the reward described can lead to investing in a lot of units, production that could be used elsewhere, and also paying maintenance for them every turn (more on that later.) Great example here is the catapults, which are bad scouting units as well as bad defensive units and really don't serve a purpose other than taking cities, which is not the intended strat for this tactic and they could be lost even peacefully to a bad disaster result. And yes, making the units exclusively for the intention of fulfilling this quest does have several tangential benefits (first meets, more huts, circumnav, and most importantly raising your "Don't Tread on Me" military score.)
Also, there's several ways in which this treats yields (i.e. a single production, science, culture, faith, or gold unit) as if the value of that yield is static throughout the game, when they really aren't. While looking at the "total number of beakers and culture-thingys" that you're saving is technically true, it's quite misleading as it implies that, for example, hitting the machinery eureka (saving 110 beakers) is only 1/5 as valuable as hitting the Combined Arms eureka (saving 592 beakers), when we both know that the benefit that X-bows provide at that time is much more valuable than anything provided by Combined Arms during that later time. Much more applicable to gameplay to consider the total number or eurekaspirations than the total number of beakers. It's very much "spend 5 dollars now to earn 50 dollars later" when you currently only have 5 dollars to your name (and you're hungry), and you will be rewarded the $50 when you're getting 200 dollars per turn anyway. Great example here is having 3 heavy chariots. That means spending 195 hammers, which is half of the cost of the Colossus (which would help you pay the maintenance for all these units you're building) and having three for the sake of the eureka doesn't pay off until Composites, and many cultural, religious (and domination) games are finished before hitting this tech, so it never pays off. Yes, getting the earlier units and upgrading is more efficient than hard-building the upgrades, but when the upgrades become available you have more cities that are larger with more infrastructure to make that higher cost still a much lower percentage of your output at the time.
And then there's the aforementioned main antagonist point to this strat - maintenance. You're paying gold per turn, every turn, on the units that won't reap the eureka rewards until later, sometimes much later. 2 galleys, 1 spearman, and 3 catapults have a combined maintenance cost of 9 GPT, and when you added the 3 newly-upgraded archers and swordsman, this now becomes 18 GPT which again, in the late-game when you're making 2500 GPT is inconsequential, but it comes at a time when your making more like 15-50 GPT. By upgrading to keep your military score on point, you're also spending strategic resources which could otherwise be sold. And later with the units that consume resources per turn, you could accidentally lock yourself out of being able to have some power plants because your coal and oil is maintaining the units which sometimes still haven't paid off the eureka they're eventually going to provide.
Oh, side note - you really should point out that the eurekaspirations that are triggered by "kill a unit with (X unit) are also triggered if that unit takes a city. This really helps as the RNG will often round up or down a little bit on an attack so when you pop something with a X-bow to prep for killing with a knight, the X-bow will sometimes kill the unit accidentally or the knight misses the kill by a HP or two. With a city, you attack with everything until it gets really low, then pop it with ranged and siege units until it's at 0 HP (sometimes it's hard to see whether there's a sliver of health or not, you know the city is at 0 HP when the ranged unit doesn't receive experience for the attack) and then the (X unit) will always take the city if the city is at 0 HP, even if the (X unit) only has 1 HP itself.
Another note: if people are playing GS or later versions of the game, the agoge part is correct. But I remember in earlier versions of the game, it was very strict about agoge only affecting units that are unlocked with ancient or classical techs, and as warriors and slingers (as well as war carts, eagle warriors, etc) are unlocked from the start of the game without being unlocked with an ancient or classical tech, they were, I guess "pre-ancient" units and did not receive production bonus through agoge.
I'd summarize by saying that making this list isn't necessarily a bad idea for beginners, but it's usually more beneficial to weigh out the cost:benefit ratio of builds and tech-pathing, and the earlier it is the more important this is. Beginners should keep an eye on upcoming eurekaspirations and figure out how long it's going to take to trigger them, and devise tech-pathing that allows the needed time to trigger them. There are select times when the benefits from spending the extra time to get a tech earlier without the bonus is worth it, like for a strategy-centric wonder or a unit that will save you from a swarming neighbor. Most of the time though, it is often worth it to get techs that are boosted but not as needed earlier than desired techs which you need a few turns to trigger that eureka (ahem... printing... ahem) For advanced players, having all of the eurekas and inspirations memorized and using that knowledge to more efficiently get through the tech and civics trees is beneficial. I'd also point out that if the main reason you're getting these units is to hit these boosts, the focus should be more on getting them right before they obsolete rather than as soon as they are unlocked, as once again since you have more stuff to make more stuff later, you're allocating a smaller percentage of your total resources to make that gain.
Cheers!
Hey I read some of this but I just finished streaming for 11 hours straight so I'll have to look through it again tomorrow when I'm home from work. From what I've read there were valid points, but I also have counterpoints haha so we can continue this tomorrow.
I just didn't want to leave you hanging for so long when you clearly took the time to write such a detailed analysis and comment.
@@kipblass2131 You deleted it and now I can't read more than 3 lines of it haha... but yeah I have slept now. I'll read and respond to the original comment after I watch the Byzantine sneak peak and upload a video on it.
But don't worry... I LOVE long comments and getting into good conversations regarding civs especially when it comes to tactics and efficiency etc
I'm looking forward to responding in kind! :)
@@GamerGrampz OK so I commented on this response but posted it under the wrong comment (Miguel Estevez's), then left a reply to this comment apologizing for the oopsie, then I figured out how to delete the first comment but now can't find the 2nd comment to delete it, Apologies, I'm an old fart!
What I wanted to say it that it's allllll good! I acknowledge that most YT comments are off-the-cuff responses to the video which can be addressed with an off-the-cuff reply. Whereas my comments are after watching the video 3 times, watching it a 4th time while pausing and taking notes, watching it a fifth time while pausing to check Civfanatics, CivWiki, and other resources for accuracy and applicability, then starting the comment while referencing parts of the video, then proof-reading, then reading again while attempting to take the perspective of the comment's recipient and adjusting accordingly. I totally understand that it takes more time to respond to all of that and that you have other things going on- if it takes you a week or a month to respond to my babbling I would not feel neglected, ignored, or slighted at all! I do appreciate how highly you prioritize getting back to everyone who comments, all while posting as much content as you do all while having a life, and I also totally understand that some days you want to just grab a few beers and chill!
The previous comment was pretty much playing Devil's Advocate. What I do in most games is pretty close to what you're describing, and I hit all but 1 or 2 Eurekas, except when it gets to the point where they can only be triggered by GS, and I finish the game before that point in all but science and diplomatic games, if you have any advice on consistently triggering those Eurekas, I'm all ears. It's just that making an actual list and trying to check off all the boxes may be diverting your attention (and resources) from some other important things...
Cheers!
@@kipblass2131 No worries at all, I'm looking forward to digging in deeper to the OP. And yeah basically I usually hit 90% of my Eurekas and Inspirations in most games when I'm min/maxing and playing efficiently.
I think the only late game inspiration that always fucks me and I've yet to get it even once even though I always try for it is the Inspiration for the Globalization Civic lmao
FUCK those 3 fully upgraded Aerodomes lmao
I like the video a lot. really high quality, but I would recommend trying to shorten the intro a bit because 2mins+ is heavy. I'm glad you did use those 2mins+ to say valuable things though.
Thanks for your input I appreciate the comment and I'll definitely keep it in mind going forward. sorry about the long. overdue reply taking so long. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in about 3 years now because of some personal reasons. I just restarted the chat on this past week though. So there is some new content out now on my channel and we'll be regularly going forward if you are still interested in civilization 6. Hope life finds you well these days take care.
@@GamerGrampz Damn a reply after three years! Thats awesome.
My life is entirely different now I don'y play civ 6 but I'm happy you're back. Good luck my friend.
Sorry again for the wait. Out of curiousity, are you into Baldur's Gate 3 or Bannerlord? I'm asking because I'm actually about to be starting to make content for those games too and I'm just wondering how many people who've watched my channel are interested in them@@sebastienbolh210
I've never seen an ad that also had CIV VI tips.
LOL. I like your style man you put it a good smile on my face.
Great content, thanks for the video.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I'm glad that you found the video helpful. Sorry about the late reply. I didn't mean to be a douche. Today's just my first day back on the channel after three years. So going forward, if you comment, it won't take me two years to reply. If you're interested in checking out the new video, you can find it here: th-cam.com/video/OxBGStjVVr8/w-d-xo.html
Eagerly waiting for the stream to begin bro
Lmao Ronnie, you still have a long ways to wait before the video becomes live. It's not scheduled to premiere for another 3 and a half hours!! :P
Excellent video
Sorry about the late reply. I haven't been on this channel in a long time until just the other day where I've officially started to back up now but I appreciate you taking the time to leave the comment and I'm happy to hear you found it helpful. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask and I promise I won't leave you hanging for two years this time.
Awesome video!! Thanks!
Hey, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment. I definitely appreciate it. I'm so sorry that it took me this long to respond to you. I didn't mean to be a douche and ignore you or anything like that. I just honestly haven't been on this channel for about 3 years now because of some personal reasons. I just started the channel backup and running again this past week, though. So there's some new content out on my channel now and we'll be regularly going forward if you're still interested in civilization 6. hope life has treated you well since you left this comment take care.
Truly original content - very cool
Thanks, Drew... I do my best lol
Glad that you enjoyed the video! :)
That one of the benefit of being a relative small channel
@@miguelestevez5765 Haha thanks man. I hope to still be putting out just as original stuff as the channel continues to grow! ;)
Exactly what I've been looking for!
Thanks man, I'm glad you found the video helpful!
I say this all the time but if you ever have specific questions don't hesitate to leave a comment and ask me. I'm happy to help when I can.
Or if there are specific subjects you'd like to see videos made on feel free to suggest them to me and I'll add them to my list if I don't already have something planned for the subject already! :)
Awesome vid. Where will I send email to again for the document? Thanks
Hey, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment on the video. I'm sorry it took me this long to reply to you. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in about three years now because of personal reasons. I just started it back up and running again this week though, so there is new content out on my channel now and will be regularly going forward if you're still interested in civilizations 6. if you still wanted the document, my email is Realgamergrampz@gmail.com
I hope life is treating you well these days. Anyway, take care.
I noticed a small bar just under the Civic window, showing things like a City Centre icon and such, and also the City State Panel looks a bit different too, with the quests displayed right under their name. Is this part of a mod, and if so, which one are you using?
I'd be interested in checking it out, myself.
Hey Ronnie, yeah I have a bunch of different mods I use. Concise UI is the one that changes the city-state panel, and then I think it's Sukritact's Simple UI Adjustments that does what you're talking about for the City Center changes.
You can find all the UI mods I use and the features that I like in them here in this video: th-cam.com/video/u2MY6dR3z7U/w-d-xo.html
But if you use Concise there is a glitch with it currently that you have to fix manually to make it work. You have to disable the Espionage features it has in the mod folder itself.
If you don't know how to do that here's a short video to walk you through the process step by step: th-cam.com/video/PlL7vmYu-9o/w-d-xo.html&
@@GamerGrampz Nice! Thanks very much for the reply and links.
@@ronnielozynsky7919 Of course man, no worries at all. I respond to every comment on any of my videos and reading through them and interacting with people in the community here is really no shit my favourite part of this whole YT experience.
Now I can make a good use of a militarist policies card when I am in a peaceful game. I remember that you said in the greek peaceful science vic to use Veterancy for that sweet 30% production for harbor, since then i have been using it in every game.
Yup, just keep in mind that if you're playing a culture game you are better off only getting a handful of harbours and concentrating more on commercial hubs simply because there are a lot better great merchants that will help you win faster than the impact the great admirals will have on your win times! :)
I just discorvered your channel, im also from Canada (Quebec) and im really happy to find canadian channel about enjoy civ 6, and i really apreciate your guide, thanks for making those guide! Keep up the good work man!
Thanks Gab, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and what you've seen of the channel so far.
You'll have to let me know if you find more of my videos helpful or not. I say this all the time, but I do mean it... if you ever have any questions don't hesitate to leave a comment and ask me.
With the amount of time I've played this game I usually can help out with most things :)
Leaving a comment for the algorithm overlords
Lol, thanks Ryan!
How did you do in Fantasy this week? I didn't really pay much attention to anybody's game other than mine since I was too busy getting drunk watching the Saints beat Tom Brady lol
yep
@@MrChando Haha thanks for leaving the comment Pablo... appreciate you sacrificing your time to appease my algorithm gods ;)
Wait. Since when the city states bar shows directly the quest that they give to player? I always have to click on to the city state to show the quest. And how those icons show how many adjecency you get if you place a district there?
Good question Ludba,
It's actually from a User Interface mod that I use. Unfortunately, I use a handful of them and can't remember off the top of my head which one does that specific thing.
You can find a video here where I talk about which mods I use and why if you're interested in learning more: th-cam.com/video/u2MY6dR3z7U/w-d-xo.html&
Happy New Years,
Tyler
I needed this thanks again gramps
Glad you found it helpful Nemesis. If you have any particular areas you're struggling with let me know and I can prioritize videos on those subjects as a way of saying thanks for all of your continued support! :)
AWESOME Thanks grampz
Any time!
Another good vid
Thanks David, glad that you enjoyed the content man.
Are there any subjects that you'd like to see me cover or even just cover BETTER in the near future?
Agoge is pronounced Ah-go-gay, its Greek so e's on the end are not silent like in English.
Alright thanks for the heads up pronunciations never been my strong suit that's for sure.
@@GamerGrampzno worries, we cant know everything, just trying to help
@@shock_n_Aweful no worries on my end either... always appreciate learning something new. Are you sure that it's not pronounced Ah-go-yay though?
Like skip to 13:15 in this video th-cam.com/video/OxBGStjVVr8/w-d-xo.html if you have a sec... that's what I mean.
@@GamerGrampzI'm certain, it came from a Greek born ancient history professor. I would imagine people who like the building call it Ah-go-yay as a play on words that may have spread around to people who were unaware they were "making a funny"
yeah my money is on your professor being accurate lol... thanks again for the heads up man@@shock_n_Aweful
For future reference Agoge is pronounced “ago-gee”. The “gee” is pronounced like the first part of “geese”. Agoge was the Spartan warrior training camp that all male children had to attend throughout their childhood and teenage years. Awesome vid by the way. I often overlook Eureka’s.
Lol Ryan, thanks for the heads up. Pronunciation is my kryptonite! :P
However, with this one I'm actually completely aware that I'm pronouncing it wrong but I pronounced it wrong for so long that when I learned the correct way I actually think that sounds fucking stupid compared with the wrong way lmao
There's basically two things I say wrong but am too stubborn to pronounce properly: Agoge, and Melee.
I'm aware Melee should be MAYLAY, but I still use MEELEE because I'm stubborn as balls. Occasionally with that one I do pronounce it properly but with Agoge I don't even make the attempt because I think the proper way just sounds dumb as balls :)
PS. Glad you found the video helpful!
Same thing with DEETY vs DEE ITY now that I'm thinking more about it haha
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*TIMESTAMPS:*
0:00 Intro
2:59 Less Important Units
5:06 CORE Unit List for Boosts
8:59 Suggested Culture ONLY Units
10:20 Direct Eurekas Earned
12:43 POSSIBLE Indirect Eurekas
13:32 Direct Inspirations Earned
14:10 POSSIBLE Indirect Inspirations
14:32 Conclusion
Awesome stuff, man. Love the analysis and clarifying some points I'm just coming to understand. Keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful, Trevor!
Why do I want 3 units?
Sorry for the late reply, Zach. I haven't been on this channel for like three years until just the other day. I officially started it back up. Otherwise I would have gotten back to you a lot sooner than two years. Well, II guess whether you want three units or not all depends on whether you want to get through the tech tree faster or not
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Thanks Malcolm, I appreciate it!
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Hey man, thanks for taking the time to leave the comment. I definitely appreciate it. I'm sorry it took me this long to reply to you. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in over three years now for personal reasons. I just started it back up and running again this week though, and there's some new content out now and we'll be regularly going forward if you are still interested in civilization 6. anyway, hopefully life's treated you well since you left this comment and you're doing pretty good now too take care.
better yet leave a comment while you're at it
LMAO! Thanks for helping appease my algorithm gods Donovan... I appreciate it man! :)
man stop interrupting the video with nonsense
Appreciate you taking the time to leave the feedback. I am going to be re filming the fanatical blurb because I think it drones on too long in its current form.
That being said, if you have a problem with a 15 second CTA about liking the video and a short message that helps me actually earn a bit of money back for the time I invest in the channel than I'd probably suggest you look elsewhere for your Civ content.
I'd recommend TheGameMechanic or SaxyGamer as good places to start where the channel's also have a similar focus on teaching and instruction etc
Take care! :)
i think i know plenty of youtubers around civ. yes i disliked as i was told to like if i enjoy i like only music thus have fat library over the ages i can easily come back for everytime. and rarely dislike. im stressed out today i start in new job and you interupting for idk which time, i lost it. had to also skip few minutes cuz they also werent what i came for
and im pretty advanced in civ myself i beat deity dozen times im around your channel cuz i like civ and enjoy its content created. is why i criticize u my man so i can enjoy you a bit more i guess. being content creator aint eazy i delete the dislike. since you care about criticizm can take it and react like a man
@@Skacy69 No problem at all man, I didn't mean for that to come across as "fuck off go watch other youtubers then" lol
It's just that it's very hard to make any money directly from TH-cam until your channel hits like 50-100k subs so you have to make money somehow and part of the way I do that is through affiliate links, and the comission from Fanatical.
This video took literally about 12 hours to make between writing the script, doing the research, and filming and editing etc so from my point of view if people want to get the information I'm offering then they can cringe and suck it up and just deal with a 40 second commercial advertising an easy way that my community can help me pay the bills since TH-cam itself certainly isn't lol
@@Skacy69 No problem at all. I'm definitely okay with hearing criticism and look forward to it actually because I do want to get better and put more enjoyable content out there.
Just sometimes the reply to the criticism isn't going to be what the person who commented wants to hear, and so that's why I suggested those channels is because they make good stuff and I realize that my channel might not be for everybody.
Glad that you enjoy the channel though and I do hope you stick around. That Fanatical ad is on my list to redo it and shorten it, but honestly with all of the stuff I have planned I'm probably not going to have a chance to get to that and re film it for another week or two.
It's constructive criticism like yours that made me realize that it is too long in it's current state and I need to tighten it up so I still have it included and it helps to generate money for me but the message is more direct and straight forward so it isn't such a significant interruption to the flow of the videos it is in.
omg so bad no wonder low sup
Oh, that's sweet. I'm glad you took the time to leave a comment on my video. Appreciate the help. Sorry it took me so long to reply to your comment though. I just honestly haven't been on this channel in over three years now for personal reasons. I started it back up again this past week though, and there's some new content out now and we'll be regularly going forward. If you're still interested in civilization 6. anyway, despite you leaving the **** comment. I still hope you're doing well these days. Take care.