When the founder said Facebook and Google couldn’t do it, it’s quite a turn off. Point is big firms could do it, it’s whether or not it’s a big enough market for them to spend millions or they already had a better way of doing something
Interesting you say that, because I'm a computer science student with not much knowledge in pitching and even I sensed this wasn't a good example of a pitch. The idea was cool, but the presentation was bad.
if i held this presentation at uni for my enterprise class i think i would have gotten about 50-55%. Clearly the company isn't gonna make bank from the golden pins.
Thank you posting your pitch to the extraordinary Tim Draper! Great job guys! I am greatly understanding and utilizing the portion regarding your application metrics. Best wishes for your future success! ✨🙏
The Geolocation is just a bit intrusive for me. I mean you can just make use of tags and probably make use of geolocation to set your present city upone registration, but they don't necessarily have to know where exactly I am, whenever people are searhing for activities etc..
i think the back end idea is golden, but the app is bad, ugly, and features are not thought over. Classic great idea bad research, bad validation, and bad execution to actually make the great idea to a great product...
doesn’t feel like they really market tested the idea and more so the UI? if it was based around the entire ecosystem of volleyball (equipment & meetups) it would be more juicy IMO
I can do this, i can do that. This is whats happening this week, this is whats happening next week. 'Apparently' my market that i know a lot about buy this thing for some reason, 'apparently'. Very rude, very arrogant about his market, not prepared to admit any faults.
I thought the presentation went well, except for when he claimed that Google and Facebook can't do proximity with their privacy feature. I respectfully disagree; it is not that they are unable to do so; rather, they have chosen not to. So, when selling your idea, make sure not to oversell it, as the audience will notice.
the owner, the guy in the pink shirt is not good sells person. Its very important to listen or not seem needy for approval. It should be the other way around, he should have just aroused an interest in the investor and only answer the questions the investor asked. I find the other guy more interesting because of his short and on point answers.
A social media app isn't meant to blow up if you intentionally create it. Facebook, Snapchat, and TH-cam were made for fun and the people who created it had no idea it is going to be a huge company. Google+ and Apple Music was intentionally made and look where it got them.
There is a lack of clarity in whatever the purpose of this app. I like the fact that you can engage with people for activities, however, the business model is not quite there.
The design of his prototype sucks ... typical engineer mentality thinking they can get away with angel or VC funding having a crappy MVP and an even worse presentation.
Really weak presentation.... no cash flow profile, let alone a revenue model that works. In order to get close to the user base an advertising revenue model requires, they would have to get hundreds of thousands of engaged users. It's a nice to have....
very hypocritical. The purpose is "to find other volley ball player" but revenue is going to come from businesses? So the core principal of this app is for non-consumer based engagement such as finding like-minded people for a game or a coffee meetup. Are they now saying that they want this app to also be used to find local businesses? Now you have a whole NEW list of competitors (i.e. Google). LOL your business model does not work very well as is. You must address the revenue-generating side of it.
Paused at 10m. 10/10 negative in the comments (stopped there) - what are you guys sitting in the dorm commons Sunday morning and your lead girl is on his period? (Not quite how this crowd puts it, but it works out to the same, naive cliquish arrogance - yes you. ) The worst is that you do not appreciate the Russian intensity of management - that's an asset and you think it's arrogance. It could be a problem for you if you are big competitor. So far draper is in perfect sync - he asked the question and the next slide answered. Perfect prep? Damn good. This is the best edit feedback - right here and now. Dweeb comments reveal very shallow understanding of actual business reality - to royal court clowns facts don't matter. But, here they are: A great idea is very simple and unique and has some form of hook to build dominant market - to cap on. Which is WHY you go to VC's. Otherwise you don't need VC $$$$$$. And the best will spark off the next Facebook and anticipate trends to help you to make those moves. In mass-eyeballs and buy-in cases like this - they should already know how to cap. Witness next moves NOW at Facebook - even Amazon (except this was early 2014.) You could pivot to anything if you own the local buy-ins markets. Advertising? You fun betcha. I can put together an entirely new market concept for this in 5 minutes. (Go ahead and guess.) I'll be back after I watch the second half. Draper wasn't as astute as I thought he would be - he slept in on the first half. And the guys did okay, but I was feeling they got thrown by Draper's cog gap - and they got into remedial reading mode - and didn't emphasize local market ownership effectively - because that is the direction everyone is going as "last mile" disruption of Sears, etc. This is a powerful, powerful medium. If Draper was staying above the clouds on this - he would have led this discussion and pushed further into how a winning sleeper app might actually compete against the well financed Mini-me's to follow. Easy concept market plan? I'M GOING TO LOOK AROUND and see if it exists. Since I'm the guy that literally invented the public (mass transit / bus) version of Uber in 1974 (for $1400 total), and came up with cell-phone Uber about 2010 (too late!) I might just see if these guys or their successors want to engage with me. It's 2017. Wonder how it's going?
I salute Tim for his patience
"Watch and Learn" what not to do.
HAhah!
When the founder said Facebook and Google couldn’t do it, it’s quite a turn off. Point is big firms could do it, it’s whether or not it’s a big enough market for them to spend millions or they already had a better way of doing something
a good example of what not to do in a pitch
Interesting you say that, because I'm a computer science student with not much knowledge in pitching and even I sensed this wasn't a good example of a pitch. The idea was cool, but the presentation was bad.
if i held this presentation at uni for my enterprise class i think i would have gotten about 50-55%. Clearly the company isn't gonna make bank from the golden pins.
"People stay on the app just to get the loyalty points" -- okay next.
No clear idea on their business model and how it will affect usability of the product.
Thank you posting your pitch to the extraordinary Tim Draper! Great job guys! I am greatly understanding and utilizing the portion regarding your application metrics. Best wishes for your future success! ✨🙏
The Geolocation is just a bit intrusive for me. I mean you can just make use of tags and probably make use of geolocation to set your present city upone registration, but they don't necessarily have to know where exactly I am, whenever people are searhing for activities etc..
I didn't wanna point this out, but couldn't be unheard @3:38
LMAOO
i think the back end idea is golden, but the app is bad, ugly, and features are not thought over. Classic great idea bad research, bad validation, and bad execution to actually make the great idea to a great product...
The body gesture of that red shirt guy is so bad and free style.
On Dragon's Den there was a guy that pitched the same idea but with Basketball. It's identical.
sure do love that TWEETER
doesn’t feel like they really market tested the idea and more so the UI?
if it was based around the entire ecosystem of volleyball (equipment & meetups) it would be more juicy IMO
The UI is ugly as hell.
lol
I can do this, i can do that. This is whats happening this week, this is whats happening next week. 'Apparently' my market that i know a lot about buy this thing for some reason, 'apparently'. Very rude, very arrogant about his market, not prepared to admit any faults.
Man all I need is the opportunity to get in front of this guy.
ABtheAgent yo, my guy !. You got an IG ? Let's network !
I thought the presentation went well, except for when he claimed that Google and Facebook can't do proximity with their privacy feature. I respectfully disagree; it is not that they are unable to do so; rather, they have chosen not to. So, when selling your idea, make sure not to oversell it, as the audience will notice.
Let the damn investor talk, stop interrupting far out this is annoying.
the owner, the guy in the pink shirt is not good sells person. Its very important to listen or not seem needy for approval. It should be the other way around, he should have just aroused an interest in the investor and only answer the questions the investor asked. I find the other guy more interesting because of his short and on point answers.
Mohamed Somali he did fine. It's difficult to pitch.
Karen Devine yes Karen, I can understand.
Karen Devine Pitching an investor is not hard. Having an investable business idea is hard.
That is my main bugbear with people who pitch. ALLOW the Vc to completely finish speaking!
How did this sad confusing idea ever get in front of Tim Draper??
it was not sad. the main idea was very interesting, I think.
but the business plan and revenue channel was really bad
A social media app isn't meant to blow up if you intentionally create it. Facebook, Snapchat, and TH-cam were made for fun and the people who created it had no idea it is going to be a huge company. Google+ and Apple Music was intentionally made and look where it got them.
Yes.. you are right..
absolutely right i made a app that's for fun! its addicting and all about meeting people to have sex! it sells! watch out for this app coming out!
What about Twitter
It was intentionally made...
There is a lack of clarity in whatever the purpose of this app. I like the fact that you can engage with people for activities, however, the business model is not quite there.
I am so uninspired by this company
The design of his prototype sucks ... typical engineer mentality thinking they can get away with angel or VC funding having a crappy MVP and an even worse presentation.
great video cant wait to check out the rest this is very useful we'll all learn a lot from these thanks.
So did they get the investment? A cliffhanger
Really weak presentation.... no cash flow profile, let alone a revenue model that works. In order to get close to the user base an advertising revenue model requires, they would have to get hundreds of thousands of engaged users. It's a nice to have....
Seems they were failing to answer the only question that matters. How does this thing make money? I would call that a pretty poor presentation.
+fleshcookie watch through 11.00 to 13.30
he said many times how to make money
It's a stalking app. Very dangerous.
viral marketing.
LOL
I'd pay attention to 14:39
No one want their privacy location get expose to Public
very hypocritical. The purpose is "to find other volley ball player" but revenue is going to come from businesses? So the core principal of this app is for non-consumer based engagement such as finding like-minded people for a game or a coffee meetup. Are they now saying that they want this app to also be used to find local businesses? Now you have a whole NEW list of competitors (i.e. Google). LOL your business model does not work very well as is. You must address the revenue-generating side of it.
features are explained but benefits to customers nourishes business
holy shit... this was my idea a few months back....
Where is the money made?
They talk about the Middle East but look at the Indian subcontinent in the map
Its a crappy app..cant instal in android..cant login in ios..
Paused at 10m. 10/10 negative in the comments (stopped there) - what are you guys sitting in the dorm commons Sunday morning and your lead girl is on his period? (Not quite how this crowd puts it, but it works out to the same, naive cliquish arrogance - yes you. )
The worst is that you do not appreciate the Russian intensity of management - that's an asset and you think it's arrogance. It could be a problem for you if you are big competitor. So far draper is in perfect sync - he asked the question and the next slide answered. Perfect prep? Damn good. This is the best edit feedback - right here and now. Dweeb comments reveal very shallow understanding of actual business reality - to royal court clowns facts don't matter. But, here they are:
A great idea is very simple and unique and has some form of hook to build dominant market - to cap on. Which is WHY you go to VC's. Otherwise you don't need VC $$$$$$. And the best will spark off the next Facebook and anticipate trends to help you to make those moves. In mass-eyeballs and buy-in cases like this - they should already know how to cap. Witness next moves NOW at Facebook - even Amazon (except this was early 2014.) You could pivot to anything if you own the local buy-ins markets. Advertising? You fun betcha. I can put together an entirely new market concept for this in 5 minutes. (Go ahead and guess.) I'll be back after I watch the second half.
Draper wasn't as astute as I thought he would be - he slept in on the first half. And the guys did okay, but I was feeling they got thrown by Draper's cog gap - and they got into remedial reading mode - and didn't emphasize local market ownership effectively - because that is the direction everyone is going as "last mile" disruption of Sears, etc. This is a powerful, powerful medium. If Draper was staying above the clouds on this - he would have led this discussion and pushed further into how a winning sleeper app might actually compete against the well financed Mini-me's to follow.
Easy concept market plan? I'M GOING TO LOOK AROUND and see if it exists. Since I'm the guy that literally invented the public (mass transit / bus) version of Uber in 1974 (for $1400 total), and came up with cell-phone Uber about 2010 (too late!) I might just see if these guys or their successors want to engage with me.
It's 2017. Wonder how it's going?
It's closed... Complete fail as no revenue model
How would you address the revenue model?
an app for Stalkers SMH!
I guess be saying "googler" he means he use google a LOT
This niggas voice is funny as fuck ❤️
now its 2020 ... and .... nothing
WHAT THE F**K DID I JUST WATCH
Please contact a Ui designer to improve your design. Your UI & Ux is so bad!
HAHAHAH nice forecast
this is bad
Cringeworthy at best
Millionen
Looks like the company is shut down already!
vivek kumar they are still open for business according to crunch base. I thought the idea was solid
lol so many creepy men will use this
Aswsss
Bored .
What a joke!!! GTFO
This is some shitty app