This Could Be The Best Smartphone Camera
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- This week we had a few rapid-fire topics as Marques and Andrew discuss everything from the new Xiaomi 12S Ultra smartphone to Tesla vehicles automatically adjusting the suspension to avoid potholes. After that, we finish up with a ton of trivia to round out season 1 of the trivia show! It's a fun one and things may or may not get a little chaotic towards the end. Hope you enjoy it!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:52 Nothing Phone specs
06:30 Xiaomi 12S Ultra
14:39 Gigabyte (Sponsored)
16:04 GM Making 12 Hummer EVs per day
22:17 Tesla adjusting suspension for potholes
26:32 BMW adopts Android Automotive
28:28 Ad break
28:30 Trivia finale showdown
50:15 Outro
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Xiaomi 12S Ultra review: bit.ly/xiaomi12sultra
Hummer article: bit.ly/3uwxivI
Tesla pothole article: bit.ly/3RjslA3
BMW Automotive article: bit.ly/3yOtxEl
Smartphone Firsts article: bit.ly/3P8Dmm7
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Mercedes actually introduced that pothole tech back in 2013 with their S-Class. They call it ‘Magic body control‘, lol. It scans the road with specialized cameras 50m ahead to adjust the suspension accordingly. All that with a precision of 3mm.
It‘s the same as always. Tesla does something in a difficult and kind of weird and the internet freaks out about it, even though similar tech has been in use for years.
@@AdrianSFS Yeah kind of like how Apple ‘invents‘ features that have been available on Android phones for many years.
Yep. It's the need to to think that they are the first.
yeah but does it add pothole data from each car into a network?
@@manaspradhan8041 in this case it doesn't need to. There are plenty of videos here on YT showcasing how effective that system works by itself.
the leather finish on the 12s ultra is to imitate the texture they are using on Leica cameras.
True, but Leica leatherettes are really nice & comfy and it doesn’t seem like the 12S’ finish is good.
@@Kevon420 nobody is forcing you to buy it ;)
@@bogdanradu9207 i mean thats kinda a dismissive reply to real criticism. if it doesnt feel good, it doesnt feel good
@@justinespirit2 just by a nice case...
I don't get it. You buy a device for its use and specs, not for showing of.
What's wrong with people, hope not all are so narcistic to buy phone on how they look.
@@petejung3122 so they should just get rid of the industrial designers that spend millions trying to get things to look good? it’s absolutely pointless? nobody buys things because they are aesthetically pleasing? the nothing phone is literally based on that like so many other things too, it’s a vanity device, and that’s entirely valid. a phone’s aesthetics, build quality, and ux informs a purchase in such an obvious way. edc things are fashion because they’re so ubiquitous with our society, obviously people will buy things they think look nice.
OMG! Thank you so much for adopting my idea. The trivia was a blast!
I have to commend you on the yaks graphics guys, hit it right out of the park!
Seriously, the small edits here and there add a lot of flavour to the podcast, keep up the great work! ✌️
Yay for trivia! That first front face camera phone looked absolutely goofy but I bet people felt so cool
48:10
"I've never even heard of Pantec"
Meanwhile that was my first phone in middle school lmao
Loving the series on the studio channel 👌🏽 defo need a 30min thumbnail challenge with a hat pick video topic 😁 could do the same challenge with an intro
these make for great pidcasts when i’m out for walks. thanks!
I absolutely look forward to these.
The Tesla suspension thing feels very Tesla--in that really advanced, really comfortable adaptive suspension systems has existed for decades and the technology is mature enough that you can even get it in motorcycles (e.g. the Ducati Multistrada), but they're going about it in their own much more complex cloud-and-computation driven way for no obvious benefit
being cool has to be a benefit of some kind
@@shaboiisaiah Is it even cooler, though? It feels like the sort of inelegant, brute-force solution an undergraduate would come up when first being asked to solve the problem. "Just memorize where all the potholes are, and then act based on that memory". It requires that the environment be completely stable--no new potholes added, no old potholes filled--and even then, since it takes seconds to adapt, it is less effective than modern adaptive suspension, which reacts to sensor data in real time.
@@daniel-wood i definitely see what you mean. couldnt hurt to have a blend of both if hardware is already installed though.
Now, I will say that the time spent on this could definitely be better applied towards other things like, enabling the matrix led headlights on newer Model 3s since the US already approved them.
Trivia showdown finally, super exciting but we all know who gonna win ;)
What do you guys think about the future of the car? I mean, car centric design is awful for cities and the quality of life of the people, so I imagine in the future we will mostly use bicycles and public transportation.
Of course cars will not disappear completely, it's just that cities literally can't accommodate every single person having a car.
Adam Something last video "Why Roads ALWAYS Fill Up" talks about something I think everyone should know.
This is an interesting point that always seems to get missed from discussions about how we move away from gas powered cars.
The common rhetoric is the inevitability of everyone just moving to electric cars. But that seems to ignore all the other facets of cars that kinda suck (how much space they require to function [roads, minimum parking requirements, driveways/garages], traffic, commutes, costly insurance, etc...), along with problems that get introduced with electric cars.
Trivia was a whole lot of fun
Marques what happened to the minuon thumbnail lol
I knew the front camera one!
I wrote an obscure phone article for Android Police and that was on it
I was waiting for the trivia.
TBH I'm surprised DangerOS was even in question. Sidekick had some of the best functionality for smartphones back then, and Andy Rubin was one of the co-founders.
Like how in all questions about the first phone with something both of you answered mostly some version of iphones
Wow that was awesome i really the questions section it was quite fun i have many more on it
adam should host the trivia next season and be on screen and all
I think for most consumers the infotainment is something that works once you get used to it and they usually also use phone coupling in the newer cars.
From your perspective as a tech reviewer I can understand that blanket statement.
I can't wait to see what Samsung does with a 1inch sensor
cant wait to see what my boyfriend does with his 1inch
@@cutieapplepie He will probably just point and shoot 😏
iPhone will get it later and be way better than everything else like usual lol.
Can Samsung beat Leica?
@@markrico5096 iPhone camera is just a phone camera, it's really good for phone quality
But, oppo, Samsung and Xiaomi camera quality is comparable and often better than a professional camera and even a telescope
Love the podcast 🤩🤩🤩
“That’s like two TH-cam Thumbnails” 😂
Interesting! Nice video!✌️
Best episode yet, GJ boys.
Listen every time while on way to collage
The trivia was a mess lol
They pretty much said iPhone to most questions lmao
The hummer ev with a trailer will you need a CDL because of weight
Someone should make Miniion case with the eye as cutout on the camera part of the mobile.
Is the shutter speed of xiomi 12S better than Iphone 13 pro , never heard him praising the iphone's shutter speed.
Tesla is not so far ahead. Mercedes and Audi have that feature for years, also for the traffic lights so you know at what speed to go to get green. Do some research before just praising copycats. Porsche have a system to know where to lift the nose of the car so that you don't damage it.
The whole android automotive is kinda scary tbh. We already have issues with google spying on us through our phones, a car really is just that much more invasive. I guess with everyone moving towards always on gps and whatnot it's to be expected just unfortunate. Commenting from my 97 hyundai accent with an apline deck because yes... the stock infotainment system was garbo lol
You could do a best background for talking head in under 20min, the ich one fixed camera/ lens
Can't believe marques didn't think of an elephant.....googled it and the hummer is an 🐘
Can't say I've seen clickbait podcast titles before
It’s not really clickbait, they talk about that exact thing and back it up with evidence. If a video says worlds biggest chair and they actually have what they believe to be the worlds biggest chair, is that clickbait, or is it an actual description of interesting content? Interesting titles aren’t clickbait if the video delivers on what’s stated.
@@jmunt I guess we have different definitions of clickbait.
This title is clearly a departure from the style of title they've typically used for the podcast that clearly describes the content they'll be talking about.
I read this title, and all it tells me is that they'll be talking about some new camera technology. "This could be the best smartphone camera" is a statement that could apply to literally any new smartphone camera. As a title, it provides no useful information beyond the category of the subject matter. And even further, the claim is one that MKBHD's own reviews repeatedly refute since he always make the point to conclude that camera performance is subjective.
I know it's this is the style of title that works on TH-cam, but I have been curating the creators I watch to ones who don't do that. Both podcasts and MKBHD have historically been resistant to non-informative titles like this, so I guess I'm just disappointed despite understanding why they do it.
@@hikaruyoroi agree to disagree my guy. He says it’s subjective but in some situations it’s the best he’s ever seen; that sounds like the very definition of “could be the best” and not something that could be said about most smartphone cameras
Markus what are you looking at in that thumb hahahaha
Hey the first trivia answer is wrong. The nexus q was unveiled in 2012. Not 2011. It never really released. but preorders were given to users for free and it was shelved instantly
Shhhhhh, I actually got that one "right"
Idk about 8+gen 1 , but apart from 870 , this is the best chip rn they could have used for the price.
39:42 DangerOS sounded very 2000s tacky💀💀 so I went with B-OS
Please save these trivia questions for Mr. Mobile.
We desperately need more battery production ASAP. People don't realize just how many batteries are needed to convert all ICE vehicles to EV. This is partially why I'm still so bullish on Tesla. They have been making contracts with almost every battery producer such as Panasonic and LG Chem for years now and they are beginning to ramp up their own battery production as well. Other automakers are just now beginning to secure contracts and build factories for batteries. EVs are going to be cell constrained for years to come, especially as demand increases.
Who’s going to be the one to tell Carl Pei that flashing lights aren’t a flagship feature?
Got the HDD size right 😂
Love the ultra
Yoo, my dad had a Sony Ericsson T-36
I dont care about phone camera mostly - not taking many pictures...
But to be honest I would now get 12s Ultra only to get Minion case on it and to have Minion phone.
33:52 The Next April Fools video idea LOL
I disagree with the infotainment systems, BMW iDrive 7 is genuinely really good. I prefer it over apple CarPlay
BMW’s infotainment system are pretty nice, probably the best in the industry.
Don't forget iPAQ from Compaq computers
Why talk about 📱 phones that won't be sold in the USA 😂🤣
xiaomi wouldn’t do sell their phones in USA,cuz they've fear to be banned.
Like Huawei. USA doesn’t like the China to be great as in their region.
My family’s first home computer was an Apple ][+ when I was in 9th grade in 1982. It had a single 143k 5.25 inch floppy disk and 64k RAM. We begged our parents to buy the 5m hard drive. They never got it. I don’t remember if the one we wanted was Seagate. When I finally got a PC with a hard drive, I was in college in 1986. 256k RAM and 30 MB hard drive.
Those with social anxiety vs nothing phone
Never heard of Pantech?! 👀
I totally agree with masques on infotainment systems being terrible across the board. Even those offered by independent makers are expensive but subpar.
Nice
Okay my Ford Fusion can scan for potholes not really new technology
"The minion" or "Dominion"
I agree with your hot take about car infotainment systems. All of the ones that I have seen (-Tesla) are really bad. The UIs are not intuitive, the sound isn’t great as a lot of them use too much bass to make them sound full. The speakers are very cheap, the voice assistants are pretty much useless and if you have navigation, it is WAY TOO HARD to use. Not to mention that a lot of them freeze and crash. The premium upgrades are generally a huge rip off as you can build a MUCH better system with aftermarket parts for a LOT LESS. I know non tech savvy friends who agree to this hottake. I wish the manufacturers would either make a decent audio system, with a stable and intuitive UI and good speakers. Or stop making it impossible to replace the stereo. I have been looking at upgrading my car recently and ability to replace the factory radio is a must! There are very few newer cars that allow this option at the moment, and to make it worse the infotainment system they give you is basically trash. I am not a pro builder, but I can build my own system that sounds amazing, even compared to a home audio system for what these companies charge for a premium system.
did you just say you want OEM car manufactures to make great audio systems. Your asking alot.
@@rory-red That is absolutely what I said. It is within reason, espically if you buy the "premium audio" option. I could build a better system for about $500, given that the dealer charges more than that for a replacement radio, it is possible. They wont do it sadly. I ask them please, give me a decent system, or don't make it infinitly difficult for me to put a new radio in myself
NGL tho your virtual set needs a dark mode. I wanna watch late night when going to bed but your set is so bright it turns a 55 inch monitor into a literal light panel. I understand the bright design but dang. Dark mode would be nice. Just saying!!
Nexus Q was released in 2012 not in 2011 hahaha
Imagine being from Georgia and being overshadowed by a fkin US state. Georgia (country) should force Georgia(state) to change name
Edible Trophy
My RAM 3500 Dually diesel weighs 9,000lbs for reference. Lol
Nothing Phone pre-orders: what's the point of "refundable" pre-orders? The customer can just ask for the money back anytime. No compromise.
Also: "non-refundable" means the company has to meet the deadline and final product they promised, otherwise it's totally refundable.
That's exactly the point, if the phone turns out to be just hype I won't lose the money. Consumer should not be burdened with the risk
@@pramod7426 then consumer waits to try one in store and then buys it if it’s good. Otherwise, consumer is dependent of online tech reviews and such, which are not definite proof of the phone being good or bad
@@pramod7426 I understand your point. I’m aware refundable pre-orders mainly exist to assess market demand and make supply meet the demand. It also allows the company to leverage large numbers of orders to buy parts cheaper in bulk, as well as labor. But the lack of compromise let’s the company get away with stuff like Rivian did: “oh you still want the car you pre-ordered? Well now it’s thousands of dollars more expensive. Yeah, we’re changing the deal. Your pre-order means nothing to us. If you refuse the new rules we’ll just refund you the money and bye-bye”.
Marques plays ultimate?
He plays competitively in a national team
I feel bad for podcast/audio only listeners whenever they talk about cameras/phones.
Ford and Audi already had a system that scans the road ahead and adjusts the suspension. What Tesla is doing is nothing new.
Hummer weighs as much as a grown elephant..
Lets go
Xiaomi smart camera? Kinda like the Galaxy S4 Zoom
SNEED
Good show, not a fan of the trivia though.
Just install Gcam
18:40
Why'd they keep guessing iPhone? Apple never does anything "world's first"
7.00
Use TH-cam sections please. We don't want to hear about some topics. We want to jump directly to another one.
Could be, but isn't. Only 5th place in Dxomark rankings, pitty. I'll go rather with 11 Ultra, cheaper and better camera performance.
Hamesha
That is so much salt 😹
why are people comparing phones for their cameras? if you really want an awesome camera why not just get a freakin' camera?
Best phone camera? Maybe for now...not sure of the future. Also, I'm surprised at Marques who interviewed Bill Gates and still didn't know he dropped out from Harvard...that's bad.
Totally subjective opinion but I’m not a fan of that intro music. For some reason it reminds me of the music in bad mobile games or those old terrible Facebook games with hospitals, farms, restaurants, etc.
Re: Trivia, why would you guess Iphone for a first phone to do anything?
I was going to post the same 😀
Because iPhones have been the first phones to do a lot of things.
@@michaliskossyfas5862 like what, rounded rectangles?
*Smart watch. Apple watches are smart watches, not watches. Akin to the "Cell phone" v "Smart phone" debate
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They basically downgraded from s22 ultra screen to s21ultras, this is my biggest gripe bnext to no improvements on lenses ther than the main, which i would be cool with a smaller sensor rather than abigger one, 1.33 on samsing is perfect, i would just make the others better, and no 8k 30 with lens swithing or just at alll, no 4k 120 no better video, slower wireless charging, ugly gold ring, no back screen which should have been bigger to have a gretat vlogging and notificaion setup, no 4k 60 on the selfie cam, and no better waterproofing, no better speakers.thats all my gripes, and thats enogh to not love it just like it. but still wanna buy i t cause its the best android video camera in 4k 30 lens switching and has the newest cpu gpu. OH yes only 512gb storage with 12gb ram. why? and no foldable made with these qualiies yet, why?
Funny how they answer everything 1st related with iPhones... C'mon guys
3rd ig
420 likes. sorry cant give you a like ;) but heres a comment insted ;)
the guys shows 0 interest in the xiaomi 12s ultra, he clearly is an apple fanboy.
also, this feels like that gandma showing pictures to a neighbor with her nephew, and the neighbor not wanting to see anymore pictures...cringe lvl 9999
Stop calling us people of the internet
25dollars or whatever, it's a non-refundable preorder without knowing the price? I personally think you're fucking stupid if you're paying money on a blind preorder.
Some people are so focused on getting things it's amazing, feels like a mental illness.
Calling every car‘s infotainment bad is just blatantly dumb.
For example BMW‘s iDrive is basically the best out there. You can whilst your driving without having to touch on the screen because you get an easy to reach selector wheel that does everything for you. By this you don‘t have to take your eyes of the road that much to navigate the iDrive menu. Unless Android automotive builds in this functionality you generalise things by saying everything else is worse.
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Can we put a voice changer to Mark Zuckerberg from Wish please? His voice is really annoying..
Xiomi 🤮🥵 china
Stop calling us people of the internet
Stop calling us people of the internet