Except he doesn’t cause he also says he has no idea and can’t be the one to say if it made the match better or not like sure he said it was stupid but going into a ring to hit a grown man in underwear is also stupid it’s a stupid sport always has always will be
@@cristiantorres3276 lol cause I’m smart enough and secure enough to know not everything I like has to be peak great shit wrestling is is dumb red neck bumpkin shit that plays out like a soap opera why feel anything about anything or watch anything
Actually meaning something is in the eye of the beholder. Nothing in that match made me get out my seat and cover my mouth in shock like that driver. It’s the most memorable moment of the match potentially. Should it have ended it? Maybe but it doesn’t mean it meant nothing.
@@FdatubeofyouThe idea in wrestling is supposed to be to protect yourself and your opponent. For decades wrestlers were able to put on incredible matches, tell great stories, draw big money, without sacrificing their health to the degree that these goofs do. When knuckleheads like Omega and Ospreay go out there knowing beforehand that they're going to damage their bodies that is pure idiocy. Luckily they wont have very long careers and maybe the next generation will learn from their stupidity. I doubt it though, things have gotten so out of hand over the last 20 years. But yeah dont applaud these jokers for dropping each other on their heads. 30 years ago when the AJPW guys started doing this even Meltzer admitted that it was not necessary. Look at Misawa, that could be any of these guys if they're an inch or two off
It meant nothing. Nobody will be talking about it a month from now because it will be topped by some other moron doing something needlessly reckless. Remember Matt Harry's spot he did a while back?
@@axlbomber How many people have been injured on that move that u know so much about? You wanna give me the wiki on that? How bout we cancel all belly to belly’s cause of what happened to Big E? Sound good? I saw two professionals make a decision knowing it would be controversial, and they’re both fine. Do you panic and jump on the internet when someone tries a 630? Nah, even tho it’s beyond dangerous. Bet you don’t care about shooting stars even tho we’ve seen Lesnar and others land on their heads. Is it risky, no shit, that’s why it gets a reaction. Should it be done all the time? Fuck no…that’s why it’s not.
Seeing this after his match with osprey. Damn. They hinted at last nights spot months ago. Bryan probably knew as soon as he saw kenny take it he'd turn it into an injury angle someday
What I love about Bryan is that he is so open and honest with his fans and the wrestling world. He has no ulterior motive, he just wants to wrestle. Unlike many others, he doesn't care about proving himself as "Best in the World" or "Best there is...", he cares about being able to wrestle, because he genuinely loves the craft. And it's good to see that now he's doing it in a very smart way that benefits his long-term health. Regardless of how you feel about any wrestler, none of us want to see these men and women end up in wheelchairs after they retire. Or, God forbid, beforehand. Bottom line, certain moves/spots just simply don't NEED to be done. Glad to see Bryan openly acknowledging that.
In my opinion that tiger driver and omega kicking of the OWA at 1 were the highlights of the match, those two particular moments are still stuck in my head.
One thing I’ve always respected about wrestlers like Danielson and Punk is that, even though they have a great respect for the world of professional wrestling, they hold John Cena in high regard. Whether fans want to admit it or not but John Cena is the last “big match, main event” wrestler to perform on a weekly basis. We don’t see that with any of the world champions these days. Almost a lost art.
that is because John Cena could entertain and produce a match. WWE is protecting Roman Reigns. He is a shitty promo, and his wrestling sucks once he starts performing every monday. they dont want to expose him.
@dr.apostasy3347 i dont think anyone forgot, which is why he's so over right now. Love him or hate him, he's 10x better now as a character and performer than he was fresh off the shield. He's finally in an angle that works for us and himself. I also dont really see him as being protected at this point. Again,he'ss over with the crowd as a heel, and no one has to really speak for him anymore either, he can draw an audience on his own. Now im not saying he's the best to ever do it, but to act like he's not good is a little much
It has to be built back up with a wrestler who has the personality and ability to lay it all out in all phases. WWE has Seth Rollins, he is doing it, not just recently. Finn Balor his feud with Seth is meaningful enough to bring back Hell in the Cell a match HHH dropped as a PPV, because it needed to have purpose again with a lot of story and rivalry behind it. AEW has Kenny and many more, as a young company they have to filter and figure out who are the lasting wrestlers.
Denisse didn't put the rest of the clip. Bryan basically said that he's done stupid stuff as well so he's in no position to tell them what they can or cannot do.
The only people who would be offended by Bryan Danielson, one of the most experienced professional wrestlers in modern history calling that spot out are braindead marks who only watching garbage wrestling to see people equally stupid maim and paralyze themselves.
Imo the best moments of the match were the feet on ropes and kick out at 1, it won't really make it less of a great match if they removed that spot, but it's over and Tony could just straight up ban that for the safety of his wrestlers, remember even Vince told Mick to never do the thrown off the cage spot again after Hell in a Cell.
Did doing the Tiger Driver make their paychecks bigger than if they didn’t do that spot? No? Then who cares if it was in the match. It was neat but not the only one ever seen. People make a big deal cause it’s shock value of how much potential there is for injury.
Tony is a lot like Shad. His company, and this is coming from an AEW fan, is nothing more than an attraction to him. He wants it to be a modern version of mid 90's ECW but there's very little reason to be doing so on such a frequent basis considering the laundry list of injuries and misques that the company has run in in a short span
We love the absolutely crazy moves in games like the vertebreaker, tiger driver etc but when it comes to real life that can seriously injure people and there are other ways to make the match better
Tony is definitely that person that doesn't have a single clue what the person is talking about and smiles and nods his head like he understood everything that was said before he runs off to Wikipedia it all
Let’s call it like it is. Daniel basically said in WWE they want you to be safe and if you did a move like this there, they would scold you for it. Here in AEW they don’t care because what ever gets the crowds going and talking is what matters. Even though the ratings and ticket sales are in the crapper… so no not worth it.
@DanAD179 still boring. i wonder if you think marvel movies are the best since they make the most money too. you can be happy with the 40 min highschool drama promos and the homogenous wwe style on your wrestling show but dont expect ppl who actually like wrestling to eat it up.
@@dm-pj7cp I’ll saw it like this. Obviously, Tony Kahn is listening to everyone because all those rules that he just placed on his company tells you something. It tells you that he is getting tired of the recklessness
I mean I was watching the match at first but I saw that move and it caught my eyes and I had to put everything down and I watch the rest of that match for a fact
The correct answer is to straight up tell Kenny and Will to never do a spot like that again on his televison program or he will fine them $200,000 and possibly be terminated afterward. Then other wrestling companies need to have some balls and straight up start blacklisting wrestlers who deliberately do bullshit like this. Wrestlers need to be saved from themselves........period. People need to accept these wrestlers are massive meatheads, both the men AND the women and that gets kicked up to a 100 when they are in an industry that is so cutthroat, dog eat dog, political, cliques constantly being formed, pettiness galore. These wrestlers need to realize there are better ways to get over than doing spots that are unnecessary, jeopardize their health as well as their wrestling partner, not to mention influence others that they need to follow suit or else they will be left behind. There comes a time we need to put a stop to all this unnecessary stuff, especially given the fact a move like that wasn't even the direct finish, to where the actual finish which was 3 more moves AFTER THAT was underwhelming and unnecessary as well.
@shikikkaneddy not my fault that your standards are completely jacked up and that in order for the dopamine levels in wrestling to hit for you like a crackhead, you need wrestling to resemble a game like wack a mole as much as possible. You aren't a real wrestling fan at all if you appreciate this half asked garbage.
Vince would go insane for one of his top guys getting dropped on his head because it costs the company money of the guy is out injured for a long time… why do these people not understand you don’t need to nearly kill yourself to draw money
It made me take a potty break because of how stupid it was after I had already taken a food break for most of the match because of how stupid it was before that
If I want to watch fake aggressive tumbling, I'll make my own company that hires Olympians that can't wrestle, but do even more flips and even more gracefully than all these marks, whoever they are. Cumander, Omegalul, Ostrich, the Counterfeit Bucks, that "empty headed dips***" Hangnail Page, Jungle Child, Crummy Guevara, etc. If I hired people who are actually good at flipping around and making it look as fake as possible, they'd at least be better at it and do it safer than all these people
@@trahapace150 I mean I was watching the match at first but I saw that move and it caught my eyes and I had to put everything down and I watch the rest of that match for a fact
The WWE style is so much better and PROTECTS wrestlers on top of PROLONGING their careers. Bobby Lashley will wrestle till he’s in his 50s without any issues. AJ Styles has toned down his “Indie” risky maneuvers and he’s well on his way to 50 years still wrestling. Rey Mysterio has also toned down his lucha style and he’s about 50 now. No matter how you look at it, WWE style is extremely safe
@@shikikkaneddy It’s not about phoning it in. It’s about being safe. The Great Muta can barely walk right now because of strong style. You think Osprey will still be doing this till 45? You think Omega isn’t worried about his health? 😂😂
@sdonagmac2293 I'm not the one pretending to know how people thinks in order to excuse a very limiting "style" of "Wrestling" 100% a lot of these "Wrestling" "fans" would choose AI art over actual painted art , to make an analogy That's the WWE "safe style" of Wrestling
Y’know it’s funny to me hearing Bryan say this when he does the flying Headbutt, a move that has literally given wrestlers really bad injuries from using the move multiple times.
So match stars are only for in ring things fair enough I think we should add all aspects of wrestling for what we consider five stars anybody can do flips and no sell moves it takes a real talent to add the story in the match not just let’s go out there and no sell while getting injury for cheap pops. Things we remember are story’s not the match it’s always remember the feud between x y and z they also a great match, but now a days remember that match no but I have to rewatch it, but I remember it was good story’s are missing in my opinion
Match stars are given based on the story too. Cena vs punk at money in the bank is nowhere near a 5 star match. It's a botch filled, slow, mess. Only things that make it truly stand out are the story and the crowd
One day someone is going to be seriously injured, and im not talkn about Martins leg or Rey Fenixs arm injury, im talkn not being able to move or worse. Luck was on side AEWs side at Forbidden Door, could have so easily broke his neck killing him. All the spots in that match it wasn't even needed.
@@shikikkaneddy ya know if you had some what of a reasonable IQ and were able to actually read, you would have comprehended that I never wished anyone to get injured. The really comedic part was you calling someone that has been a long time fan a mark. You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. What part of "not being able to move" did you not comprehend ? Last time i checked Big E has always been able to move. So either you dont understand english or you really are just that fuckn stupid. Probably some dingbat that will be a virgin for life.
@@shikikkaneddy you should really use that small thing between your ears, its called a brain. You must be on the spectrum. I get it now, i feel sorry for your pathetic ass.
Yes, they would. That's the whole reason why they are defending it. They don't about the wrestler, just that they entertain them by any means anything necessary.
Yeah... Real smart to pay tribute to a wrestler that died in the ring from a separated vertebrae with a move that could kill you by separating your vertebrae. This Tiger Driver was not only unnecessary, but f***ing stupid. Of course, TK sits there, looking weak and fragile. He can't tell these guys "no!" because he's not a real boss. He's truly a mark.
obviously it was a key moment and made the match, if you dont get that, you are a bigger mark than Tony. That was a huge tribute to the kings road and Misawa himself. The best period wrestling ever had.
@@willmarkley4237 dont speak for all of the wrestlers as you clearly only meant wwe wrestlers from 2008 onwarts. And its not even their goal, its the companys goal and the "sports entertainment" product they produce is clearly not wrestling at all.
@@jakubkpunkt911 Wrong. Arn Anderson comes to mind who has said it on his podcast. That's the guys who are showing up on most of the shoot interviews is guys from that era and he worked safe and look at him his neck damage resulted in no use from one arm. But I've heard at least a dozen wrestlers from that era say the same. That's the era of wrestling I grew up on that I would watch shoot interviews for.
Ospreay and Omega pulling the Tiger Driver successfully speaks volumes on how professional these guys and AEW are. Kenny actually landed on his left shoulder but the camera work legitimately made it look like he landed neck-first . I don't trust anyone in that other company to pull moves like that , not Seth , not AJ , not Finn , etc etc.
He landed on his neck. Stop pushing the shoulder narrative/ lie. Pro wrestlers have analysed it and said it’s on the neck, yet marks with weebo pfps think it’s on the shoulder 😂😂
@NL-fg6it >"Pro Wrestlers" >Possibly that video with Stevie Richards from Russo's channel. But anyways , Kenny is wrestling this Wednesday so he's pretty much good to go , even after "being dropped on his neck"
You cant get anymore AEW mark/fanboy than this man right here. You're saying AEW is professional, when AEW is filled with constant botches nonstop and now way in hell did that tiger driver look successful. It was a stupid spot that didnt even finish the match, it led to two other moves that felt underwhelming in comparison. You are the very reason why Wrestlers need someone wiser to save them from themselves because fanboys like you will see their favorite wrestler blow someone's head off at point blank range and you will start clapping like a damn seal, saying how awesome that was and making all kinds of assumptions and justifications in that wrestlers favor. They dont need enablers, they need sheriff's. And AJ Styles made a whole career protecting wrestlers from all kinds of crazy spots. Kenny Omega himself says AJ Styles is way better than him and its his wish that he wants to wrestle AJ Styles at Wrestlemania before he retires.......those other superstars you mentioned are more than capable of performing the move successfully but still are mature in that they wouldn't take the chance at all.
It wasn't worth it because it wasn't the finish. Stuff this like this is absolute nonsense, but it's Kenny Omega so of course everything has to have 50 different spots for a false finish.
Tony should ban some dangerous moves unannounced to public for the sake of his wrestlers. Most of them are pro wrestler and wrestling is all they had, Tony should make sure they could this as long as they want and reduce the risk of them getting bad injuries as much as he can
1800- Jim Cornette I guarantee this has been submitted to the drive-thru and experience 🤷♂️ He's going to say Ostrich slammed Twinkle toes on his head 😂
the answer is no, not worth it. also tony’s aew doctors probably have the highest salary in the company on payroll 🤣 gotta keep those clearances coming
Define those two words , because you all spout that nonsense and never elaborate on what it truly means. Let me guess , slow AF moves and making faces in front of the camera ?
@@shikikkaneddy basically knows how to slow down & control the pace of the match. proper utilization of moves rather than throwing it out in a move barrage for no reason. yeah connecting with the crowd, facial expressions are part of selling too. that's what modern wrestling lacks today. don't forget, most wrestlers don't look like wrestlers.
@@zachxavierpatatag8393 fancy words for slow borderline boring matches. Pretty much every other sport and even MMA fights are pretty fast-paced but for some reason a good part of the IWC thinks it's a good idea to drag the match because "mUh sOAP o0peRa" , even though when Wrestling is at its most interesting when it's fast paced and catches the eye easily
@@shikikkaneddy you basically favour the workrate stuff, I get it. technical wrestling has its own place. we casuals or even the business prefer a soap opera type match at least people will remember the drama and the impact of the match versus what's going through out the whole 30 min period match which no one would bother to remember. so don't be surprised that most wrestlers who went mainstream or gained the most success throughout history are not workrate guys and mostly home grown talent who draws money who don't need to perform 50 superkicks, canadian destoryers & a thousand flip or any technical workrate move.
@@maazwaseem8313 he's obviously hinting at Tony letting his valuable talent do dangerous spots because they're marks. The WWE doesn't allow their wrestlers to do unnecessarily dangerous stuff just because they want to, because their health is valuable. Big spots and weird pile drivers and landing on your neck are either only in big moments or just don't happen in WWE when it's too dangerous.
Every time I see tony he looks like he's realizing more and more that he has no clue what he is doing. Thank God for the people around him. Otherwise that place would be a mess.
It was a fucking stupid spot that should have carried penelties for the agents involved. What if some outsider had paralysed omega? I dont like his work but still
Bryan Danielson thinks it's only ok to do that if you have a history of head and neck injuries and can scare marks like myself by convulsing after taking a piledriver on the ramp
AEW will end up killing a wrestler with this stupid spot first mentality. When that happens, I hope the family of the fallen wrestler sues Shad Khan for penny he has. He is the one financing this and he should be the one to pay.
"I hope a wrestler gets injured so I can prove a point" is certainly a take. Hundreds of Wrestling companies all over the world that probably do worse and you marks are literally obsessed with AEW . Also , yes , the only company that has killed a Wrestler and its name isn't AEW 🤡 worse , you have marks mad that they can't profit from his name
It's legitimately sad hearing somebody as talented as Bryan Danielson calling Will Ospreay and Kenny Omega "fantastic". The dude is a savant, he literally has no idea why he does what he does and why it works, it just happens. He's clueless as to the inner workings.
Says Kratosx23 who never got in a ring and thinks just because someone disagrees with him they don't know shit. I guess Bret Hart, Stone Cold, Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, Booker T and etc don't know shit about their craft because they publicly already praised Omega inumerous times
@@takezoman Bret Hart also said Melina was the best wrestler in the world and Triple H has never had a good match, he said Ric Flair sucked in the ring. Kurt Angle thinks AJ Styles is a better wrestler than Bryan Danielson and said that Bryan was only "very good" just because he's never been in the ring with him. Ric Flair said that Andrade vs Buddy Murphy was the best match he'd seen all year that didn't involve Charlotte. I swear to God, you can't make this shit up. Flair and Booker T are known bullshitters and clowns. Just because you're in a field doesn't mean that you know everything about it, not to mention, Bret Hart recently criticized wrestling and why he doesn't watch it anymore, and while he didn't name Omega, everything he criticized is exactly what Omega does. Cornette has been in the business for 40 years and blisters Omegas complete inability to make sense of anything constantly, but I guess because his opinion is negative and not positive, you'll just ignore that even though he's gotten into a ring. If you're gonna discount his opinion because it's negative, you've got to discount the positive ones too and maybe just accept that an opinion is an opinion and doesn't carry any more weight than a fans. Kenny Omega is good at executing athletic moves with no psychology and no logic in random, put together sequences that don't flow together properly, and then every now and then, Bryan or Okada will carry him to a match that they take the lead on and guide him by the hand through it and it's good because he's not the point man.
Danielson's so nice you don't even realize this is his version of saying it was dumb as fuck and could've broken Kenny's neck.
Except he doesn’t cause he also says he has no idea and can’t be the one to say if it made the match better or not like sure he said it was stupid but going into a ring to hit a grown man in underwear is also stupid it’s a stupid sport always has always will be
@@Nervar Yes, the level of stupidity of the business overall is definitely equal to deliberately dropping a guy on his fucking head lol.
@@Nervarwhy do you even watch if you feel that way
@@cristiantorres3276 lol cause I’m smart enough and secure enough to know not everything I like has to be peak great shit wrestling is is dumb red neck bumpkin shit that plays out like a soap opera why feel anything about anything or watch anything
Working everyone SO HARD here. This is why he’s the best.
Tony looks like he's gonna cry
Lmao 😂
he always looks like that
Hes clueless
I hate tony
Again
They should have made that the finish so it actually meant something instead of just another risky spot.
Actually meaning something is in the eye of the beholder. Nothing in that match made me get out my seat and cover my mouth in shock like that driver. It’s the most memorable moment of the match potentially. Should it have ended it? Maybe but it doesn’t mean it meant nothing.
@@FdatubeofyouThe idea in wrestling is supposed to be to protect yourself and your opponent. For decades wrestlers were able to put on incredible matches, tell great stories, draw big money, without sacrificing their health to the degree that these goofs do. When knuckleheads like Omega and Ospreay go out there knowing beforehand that they're going to damage their bodies that is pure idiocy. Luckily they wont have very long careers and maybe the next generation will learn from their stupidity. I doubt it though, things have gotten so out of hand over the last 20 years. But yeah dont applaud these jokers for dropping each other on their heads. 30 years ago when the AJPW guys started doing this even Meltzer admitted that it was not necessary. Look at Misawa, that could be any of these guys if they're an inch or two off
It meant nothing. Nobody will be talking about it a month from now because it will be topped by some other moron doing something needlessly reckless. Remember Matt Harry's spot he did a while back?
It was a COMBO finish, bro. Not everything need to be a single finisher. Combo Finishers are also incredible and that was what we saw.
@@axlbomber How many people have been injured on that move that u know so much about? You wanna give me the wiki on that? How bout we cancel all belly to belly’s cause of what happened to Big E? Sound good? I saw two professionals make a decision knowing it would be controversial, and they’re both fine. Do you panic and jump on the internet when someone tries a 630? Nah, even tho it’s beyond dangerous. Bet you don’t care about shooting stars even tho we’ve seen Lesnar and others land on their heads. Is it risky, no shit, that’s why it gets a reaction. Should it be done all the time? Fuck no…that’s why it’s not.
Seeing this after his match with osprey. Damn. They hinted at last nights spot months ago. Bryan probably knew as soon as he saw kenny take it he'd turn it into an injury angle someday
What I love about Bryan is that he is so open and honest with his fans and the wrestling world. He has no ulterior motive, he just wants to wrestle. Unlike many others, he doesn't care about proving himself as "Best in the World" or "Best there is...", he cares about being able to wrestle, because he genuinely loves the craft. And it's good to see that now he's doing it in a very smart way that benefits his long-term health. Regardless of how you feel about any wrestler, none of us want to see these men and women end up in wheelchairs after they retire. Or, God forbid, beforehand. Bottom line, certain moves/spots just simply don't NEED to be done. Glad to see Bryan openly acknowledging that.
In my opinion that tiger driver and omega kicking of the OWA at 1 were the highlights of the match, those two particular moments are still stuck in my head.
Coming back here after he went took a Tiger Driver from Ospreay tonight 😭
One thing I’ve always respected about wrestlers like Danielson and Punk is that, even though they have a great respect for the world of professional wrestling, they hold John Cena in high regard. Whether fans want to admit it or not but John Cena is the last “big match, main event” wrestler to perform on a weekly basis. We don’t see that with any of the world champions these days. Almost a lost art.
that is because John Cena could entertain and produce a match. WWE is protecting Roman Reigns. He is a shitty promo, and his wrestling sucks once he starts performing every monday. they dont want to expose him.
Fans forgot how shitty Roman was before he won the title. Now that he has the title WWE are protecting him.
@dr.apostasy3347 i dont think anyone forgot, which is why he's so over right now. Love him or hate him, he's 10x better now as a character and performer than he was fresh off the shield. He's finally in an angle that works for us and himself.
I also dont really see him as being protected at this point. Again,he'ss over with the crowd as a heel, and no one has to really speak for him anymore either, he can draw an audience on his own. Now im not saying he's the best to ever do it, but to act like he's not good is a little much
you didn’t have to disrespect Randy Orton like that
It has to be built back up with a wrestler who has the personality and ability to lay it all out in all phases.
WWE has Seth Rollins, he is doing it, not just recently.
Finn Balor his feud with Seth is meaningful enough to bring back Hell in the Cell a match HHH dropped as a PPV, because it needed to have purpose again with a lot of story and rivalry behind it.
AEW has Kenny and many more, as a young company they have to filter and figure out who are the lasting wrestlers.
It did make the match better. Those guys are top shelf. They know the risks and what they're doing. That's up to them but yeah. So impressive
Tiger Driver 91 looks Raaaaddd as hell love it.
We need Ospreay vs Danielson
Goat vs Goat, definitely Yes! Yes! Yes!
And vs Prince Puma
@andrelagrange8752 we can't because Prince Puma is Ricochet and he is in WWE
No no no Bryan can't keep up with ospreay
@@baif202 no shot you just said that
Excellent 👍 Footage Denise You totally Rock
Long term storytelling
So glad we got to see TK looking in two directions and shaking his head from time to time. Really ties the clip together 🤨
Says the guy who wrestled 10 mins with a broken arm
you don't end up in wheelchair from broken arm
Lol mark
Denisse didn't put the rest of the clip.
Bryan basically said that he's done stupid stuff as well so he's in no position to tell them what they can or cannot do.
The only people who would be offended by Bryan Danielson, one of the most experienced professional wrestlers in modern history calling that spot out are braindead marks who only watching garbage wrestling to see people equally stupid maim and paralyze themselves.
What's worse: broken arm or potentially getting paralyzed for the rest of your life? I want you to think a bit more before you post.
Imo the best moments of the match were the feet on ropes and kick out at 1, it won't really make it less of a great match if they removed that spot, but it's over and Tony could just straight up ban that for the safety of his wrestlers, remember even Vince told Mick to never do the thrown off the cage spot again after Hell in a Cell.
HE LANDED ON HIS RIGHT SHOULDER, NOT HIS NECK. LOOK CLOSER.
Did doing the Tiger Driver make their paychecks bigger than if they didn’t do that spot? No? Then who cares if it was in the match. It was neat but not the only one ever seen. People make a big deal cause it’s shock value of how much potential there is for injury.
That's really smart good for him asking the doctors first
Bryan Danielson: “I’m a big liar. I love to lie.”
I love how the AEW Superstars humiliate Tony sitting right next to him. These guys are human action figures to him.
Tony is a lot like Shad. His company, and this is coming from an AEW fan, is nothing more than an attraction to him. He wants it to be a modern version of mid 90's ECW but there's very little reason to be doing so on such a frequent basis considering the laundry list of injuries and misques that the company has run in in a short span
We love the absolutely crazy moves in games like the vertebreaker, tiger driver etc but when it comes to real life that can seriously injure people and there are other ways to make the match better
Tony is definitely that person that doesn't have a single clue what the person is talking about and smiles and nods his head like he understood everything that was said before he runs off to Wikipedia it all
Let’s call it like it is. Daniel basically said in WWE they want you to be safe and if you did a move like this there, they would scold you for it. Here in AEW they don’t care because what ever gets the crowds going and talking is what matters. Even though the ratings and ticket sales are in the crapper… so no not worth it.
Fax
you can be happy with their mediocre wrestling. aew is an alternative
@DanAD179 still boring. i wonder if you think marvel movies are the best since they make the most money too. you can be happy with the 40 min highschool drama promos and the homogenous wwe style on your wrestling show but dont expect ppl who actually like wrestling to eat it up.
@@dm-pj7cp AEW is not the alternative. Many of outlets have stated that AEW is no longer the alternative lol. Must’ve been sleeping under a rock.
@@dm-pj7cp I’ll saw it like this. Obviously, Tony Kahn is listening to everyone because all those rules that he just placed on his company tells you something. It tells you that he is getting tired of the recklessness
I mean I was watching the match at first but I saw that move and it caught my eyes and I had to put everything down and I watch the rest of that match for a fact
Bryan is the only one I miss in WWE..No,Christian too,but those 2 are it..💯
In answer to Bryan's question, that was not worth it.
He does have the answer for that.. we all do. It's not worth your life of career when a standard piledriver would have had the same impact
Bryan does have the answer but he doesn't want to get CM Punk level heat by being honest and have the whole locker room get their panties in a bunch.
I'm Still Waiting For Omega V Rollins Dream Match On A World Stage
Just watching tony khan... He doesn't even have to speak just watching him I find is the most hilarious thing 😂😂😂
i would like responses: how could i get the tiger driver finisher in wwe? /like if i was a wwe superstar
pull your pants down and fart
I don't trust anyone in that company to pull it off.
Not Seff , not Walter , not Cody , etc.
Don’t even bother bro 😂
This made Aew have a banned moves list
Why do they even do these little questions segments.
DAMN. TONY'S REACTION SAY IT ALL😢
The correct answer is to straight up tell Kenny and Will to never do a spot like that again on his televison program or he will fine them $200,000 and possibly be terminated afterward. Then other wrestling companies need to have some balls and straight up start blacklisting wrestlers who deliberately do bullshit like this.
Wrestlers need to be saved from themselves........period. People need to accept these wrestlers are massive meatheads, both the men AND the women and that gets kicked up to a 100 when they are in an industry that is so cutthroat, dog eat dog, political, cliques constantly being formed, pettiness galore. These wrestlers need to realize there are better ways to get over than doing spots that are unnecessary, jeopardize their health as well as their wrestling partner, not to mention influence others that they need to follow suit or else they will be left behind.
There comes a time we need to put a stop to all this unnecessary stuff, especially given the fact a move like that wasn't even the direct finish, to where the actual finish which was 3 more moves AFTER THAT was underwhelming and unnecessary as well.
Ok Bubblewrap Wrestling aficionado.
Jesus , what a decade of PG Sports Entertainment does to a MFer 💀
Softie
@shikikkaneddy not my fault that your standards are completely jacked up and that in order for the dopamine levels in wrestling to hit for you like a crackhead, you need wrestling to resemble a game like wack a mole as much as possible. You aren't a real wrestling fan at all if you appreciate this half asked garbage.
@@shikikkaneddy still better than aee
Tbf osprey hit Kenny with everything he had so it needed a move like that to end the match, so I reckon it did add to it
He sitting there talking about it so yeah its worth it
Vince would go insane for one of his top guys getting dropped on his head because it costs the company money of the guy is out injured for a long time… why do these people not understand you don’t need to nearly kill yourself to draw money
That's a true WWE guy statement... Work smarter not harder
He has the answer but questioning it!
Tell a good enough story and you won’t need to risk your neck to get over
It was a part of the story.
@@TurnaboutAdamThese people don't know most of the terms they keep parroting from Jim Cornette
They just say them to "sound smart"
Are you all gonna boo Bryan. Like you did punk for speaking the truth cause it wasn't worth it
Of course it made the match better.
It made me take a potty break because of how stupid it was after I had already taken a food break for most of the match because of how stupid it was before that
If I want to watch fake aggressive tumbling, I'll make my own company that hires Olympians that can't wrestle, but do even more flips and even more gracefully than all these marks, whoever they are. Cumander, Omegalul, Ostrich, the Counterfeit Bucks, that "empty headed dips***" Hangnail Page, Jungle Child, Crummy Guevara, etc. If I hired people who are actually good at flipping around and making it look as fake as possible, they'd at least be better at it and do it safer than all these people
No it didn't you fckin mark
@@trahapace150 I mean I was watching the match at first but I saw that move and it caught my eyes and I had to put everything down and I watch the rest of that match for a fact
Long term story telling here bruv.
The WWE style is so much better and PROTECTS wrestlers on top of PROLONGING their careers.
Bobby Lashley will wrestle till he’s in his 50s without any issues. AJ Styles has toned down his “Indie” risky maneuvers and he’s well on his way to 50 years still wrestling. Rey Mysterio has also toned down his lucha style and he’s about 50 now. No matter how you look at it, WWE style is extremely safe
Phoning it in 💀
Ok PG Wrestling aficionado
@@shikikkaneddy It’s not about phoning it in. It’s about being safe. The Great Muta can barely walk right now because of strong style. You think Osprey will still be doing this till 45? You think Omega isn’t worried about his health? 😂😂
@sdonagmac2293 I'm not the one pretending to know how people thinks in order to excuse a very limiting "style" of "Wrestling"
100% a lot of these "Wrestling" "fans" would choose AI art over actual painted art , to make an analogy
That's the WWE "safe style" of Wrestling
@@shikikkaneddy AI art looks 1000 times BETTER than actual art 😄😄😄
Y’know it’s funny to me hearing Bryan say this when he does the flying Headbutt, a move that has literally given wrestlers really bad injuries from using the move multiple times.
It DID make the match better
So match stars are only for in ring things fair enough I think we should add all aspects of wrestling for what we consider five stars anybody can do flips and no sell moves it takes a real talent to add the story in the match not just let’s go out there and no sell while getting injury for cheap pops. Things we remember are story’s not the match it’s always remember the feud between x y and z they also a great match, but now a days remember that match no but I have to rewatch it, but I remember it was good story’s are missing in my opinion
Match stars are given based on the story too. Cena vs punk at money in the bank is nowhere near a 5 star match. It's a botch filled, slow, mess. Only things that make it truly stand out are the story and the crowd
GOD bless you all 🤎
Jist looking at Tony Khan is damn comedy 😂😂...
Who is the other guy.
I'm sorry but yeah it f worth it!!! I hope it never repeats is just that thing that only happens one time.
But he fought with a broken arm
One day someone is going to be seriously injured, and im not talkn about Martins leg or Rey Fenixs arm injury, im talkn not being able to move or worse. Luck was on side AEWs side at Forbidden Door, could have so easily broke his neck killing him. All the spots in that match it wasn't even needed.
Implicitly wishing for someone to be injured to "prove a point" is nasty stuff.
Have some decency, mark
How's Big E doing , buddy ?
@@shikikkaneddy ya know if you had some what of a reasonable IQ and were able to actually read, you would have comprehended that I never wished anyone to get injured. The really comedic part was you calling someone that has been a long time fan a mark. You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. What part of "not being able to move" did you not comprehend ? Last time i checked Big E has always been able to move. So either you dont understand english or you really are just that fuckn stupid. Probably some dingbat that will be a virgin for life.
@@shikikkaneddy you should really use that small thing between your ears, its called a brain. You must be on the spectrum. I get it now, i feel sorry for your pathetic ass.
All the people defending it wouldn't feel the same if Omega was paralyzed, and doing ridiculously risky stuff like that, it's only a matter of time.
Yes, they would. That's the whole reason why they are defending it. They don't about the wrestler, just that they entertain them by any means anything necessary.
It’s more about which company it happened in. Happens in AEW and the smarks defend it, if that was in WWE then they would criticise it.
i think it absolutely did make the match better
Yeah... Real smart to pay tribute to a wrestler that died in the ring from a separated vertebrae with a move that could kill you by separating your vertebrae. This Tiger Driver was not only unnecessary, but f***ing stupid.
Of course, TK sits there, looking weak and fragile. He can't tell these guys "no!" because he's not a real boss. He's truly a mark.
obviously it was a key moment and made the match, if you dont get that, you are a bigger mark than Tony. That was a huge tribute to the kings road and Misawa himself. The best period wrestling ever had.
The #1 goal a wrestler has always had is to get him and his opponent home safe. That defies that logic.
@@willmarkley4237yes !!!
@@willmarkley4237if you look at the move at different angles it was a lot safer than you give them credit for
@@willmarkley4237 dont speak for all of the wrestlers as you clearly only meant wwe wrestlers from 2008 onwarts. And its not even their goal, its the companys goal and the "sports entertainment" product they produce is clearly not wrestling at all.
@@jakubkpunkt911 Wrong. Arn Anderson comes to mind who has said it on his podcast. That's the guys who are showing up on most of the shoot interviews is guys from that era and he worked safe and look at him his neck damage resulted in no use from one arm. But I've heard at least a dozen wrestlers from that era say the same. That's the era of wrestling I grew up on that I would watch shoot interviews for.
As a long time fan I literally see most of the aew roster as a bunch of Rey mysterios minus any of Rey’s appeal.
Will Ospreay has Now Dethroned Mitsuharu Misawa in Star Ratings.... I think they Achieved their Mission.
Lmfao is that a side quest?
Kurt Angle has zero of these 5 star matches you speak of. They’re one man’s opinion
I can't believe this idiot thinks there mission was to achieve some kind of match rating by this own person.
@@egomaniac247 ....ok
Ospreay and Omega pulling the Tiger Driver successfully speaks volumes on how professional these guys and AEW are.
Kenny actually landed on his left shoulder but the camera work legitimately made it look like he landed neck-first .
I don't trust anyone in that other company to pull moves like that , not Seth , not AJ , not Finn , etc etc.
He landed on his neck. Stop pushing the shoulder narrative/ lie. Pro wrestlers have analysed it and said it’s on the neck, yet marks with weebo pfps think it’s on the shoulder 😂😂
@NL-fg6it >"Pro Wrestlers"
>Possibly that video with Stevie Richards from Russo's channel.
But anyways , Kenny is wrestling this Wednesday so he's pretty much good to go , even after "being dropped on his neck"
@@shikikkaneddyjust because he didn't get crippled doesn't mean it's ok to drop someone on theyre neck
@@shikikkaneddy As the other guy said, Kenny might have survived it, but it's still a terrible idea and risky. Might not be so lucky next time.
You cant get anymore AEW mark/fanboy than this man right here. You're saying AEW is professional, when AEW is filled with constant botches nonstop and now way in hell did that tiger driver look successful. It was a stupid spot that didnt even finish the match, it led to two other moves that felt underwhelming in comparison.
You are the very reason why Wrestlers need someone wiser to save them from themselves because fanboys like you will see their favorite wrestler blow someone's head off at point blank range and you will start clapping like a damn seal, saying how awesome that was and making all kinds of assumptions and justifications in that wrestlers favor. They dont need enablers, they need sheriff's.
And AJ Styles made a whole career protecting wrestlers from all kinds of crazy spots. Kenny Omega himself says AJ Styles is way better than him and its his wish that he wants to wrestle AJ Styles at Wrestlemania before he retires.......those other superstars you mentioned are more than capable of performing the move successfully but still are mature in that they wouldn't take the chance at all.
Most AEW fans are just blood thirsty and want crazy shit whole match and don’t care the consequences of those moves or stunts.
Find me an AEW fan who asked for that spot, you stupid, fedpilled cunt.
Lmao blood thirsty 🤣
Pipe down Maxwell
@@user-xn1ts2bz1m MMA is real fighting so it’s expected and wrestling isn’t. You sound like a dumbass 🤣
It wasn't worth it because it wasn't the finish. Stuff this like this is absolute nonsense, but it's Kenny Omega so of course everything has to have 50 different spots for a false finish.
Tony looks like he has hella mad allergies
......stop trying to use slang, you're not good at that lol
At least he doesnt look coked out this time
Tony should ban some dangerous moves unannounced to public for the sake of his wrestlers. Most of them are pro wrestler and wrestling is all they had, Tony should make sure they could this as long as they want and reduce the risk of them getting bad injuries as much as he can
Just because you say right at the end of your sentence doesn't mean you are correct in what you're saying right?
I can hear Dave Meltzer saying yes it made the match here's 5 stars 🤦
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Cry about it , mark
Why is Tony about to cry ?
“That type of stuff scares me” then your on the wrong show buddy
1800- Jim Cornette I guarantee this has been submitted to the drive-thru and experience 🤷♂️ He's going to say Ostrich slammed Twinkle toes on his head 😂
the answer is no, not worth it.
also tony’s aew doctors probably have the highest salary in the company on payroll 🤣 gotta keep those clearances coming
Kay what
So many bad faith takes in the comments lol
Always the PG babies
That’s why those guys must rely on psychology & storytelling without adding risky spots too much.
Define those two words , because you all spout that nonsense and never elaborate on what it truly means.
Let me guess , slow AF moves and making faces in front of the camera ?
@@shikikkaneddy basically knows how to slow down & control the pace of the match. proper utilization of moves rather than throwing it out in a move barrage for no reason. yeah connecting with the crowd, facial expressions are part of selling too. that's what modern wrestling lacks today. don't forget, most wrestlers don't look like wrestlers.
@@zachxavierpatatag8393 fancy words for slow borderline boring matches.
Pretty much every other sport and even MMA fights are pretty fast-paced but for some reason a good part of the IWC thinks it's a good idea to drag the match because "mUh sOAP o0peRa" , even though when Wrestling is at its most interesting when it's fast paced and catches the eye easily
@@shikikkaneddy you basically favour the workrate stuff, I get it. technical wrestling has its own place. we casuals or even the business prefer a soap opera type match at least people will remember the drama and the impact of the match versus what's going through out the whole 30 min period match which no one would bother to remember. so don't be surprised that most wrestlers who went mainstream or gained the most success throughout history are not workrate guys and mostly home grown talent who draws money who don't need to perform 50 superkicks, canadian destoryers & a thousand flip or any technical workrate move.
Is it just me or is he hinting that Tony doesn’t know how to protect his wrestlers?😭😭💀
😂 why Tony look like he his high
He's calling Tony a mark that can't run a wrestling business right next to him 😭😭
???
When did he say any of that??
STOP LYING YOU NOT EVEN LISTENING
No he dont
@@maazwaseem8313 he's obviously hinting at Tony letting his valuable talent do dangerous spots because they're marks. The WWE doesn't allow their wrestlers to do unnecessarily dangerous stuff just because they want to, because their health is valuable. Big spots and weird pile drivers and landing on your neck are either only in big moments or just don't happen in WWE when it's too dangerous.
And Tony is a mark himself for letting his indie minded talent just do anything they want, risking their own health
ok who is the guy on the top he always looks sad and depressed like he is going to cry
Yes, it was worth it
Every time I see tony he looks like he's realizing more and more that he has no clue what he is doing. Thank God for the people around him. Otherwise that place would be a mess.
tony khan always looks like a scared child of what his wrestlers about to say or say about there rival wwe
It didn’t make the match better because he fucking kicked out of it lmao
So? People kicked out of Misawa's too. A couple of times actually. This isn't a "no one ever kicks out of this!" move like a Burning Hammer.
💯 made the match better. He just jealous
The Miz is better than Daniel Bryan.
AEW is just risky spots 24/7, no psychology. Just nonsense wrestling.
Not worth it for a cheap false finish. The Tiger Driver should have been a 3 count.
Why?
It was a fucking stupid spot that should have carried penelties for the agents involved.
What if some outsider had paralysed omega? I dont like his work but still
VINCE RUINS EVERYTHING 😑
The tiger driver was unnecessary
Bryan Danielson thinks it's only ok to do that if you have a history of head and neck injuries and can scare marks like myself by convulsing after taking a piledriver on the ramp
AEW will end up killing a wrestler with this stupid spot first mentality. When that happens, I hope the family of the fallen wrestler sues Shad Khan for penny he has. He is the one financing this and he should be the one to pay.
Spoken like someone who has absolutely NO idea what they're talking about, lol.
Crazy how only one wrestling company has killed a performer and it’s not AEW
@@Jase77you act like aew is 20 years old...
"I hope a wrestler gets injured so I can prove a point" is certainly a take.
Hundreds of Wrestling companies all over the world that probably do worse and you marks are literally obsessed with AEW .
Also , yes , the only company that has killed a Wrestler and its name isn't AEW 🤡 worse , you have marks mad that they can't profit from his name
Tbh I think Kenny and the Bucks should all be dropped directly on their heads multiple times per match until they stop showing up for work.
Fair
Punk sucks
I wish i could give this comment all of the thumbs up. It's all that needs to be said.
they have been dropped enough. We all see the consequences today
Ok Jim Cornette, lay down the burner
Without taking risks you cant be a legendary wrestler like mick foley / mankind.
Without keeping your opponent safe while making yourself look great, you can't be a legendary wrestler like Mr. Perfect
It's legitimately sad hearing somebody as talented as Bryan Danielson calling Will Ospreay and Kenny Omega "fantastic". The dude is a savant, he literally has no idea why he does what he does and why it works, it just happens. He's clueless as to the inner workings.
Says Kratosx23 who never got in a ring and thinks just because someone disagrees with him they don't know shit. I guess Bret Hart, Stone Cold, Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, Booker T and etc don't know shit about their craft because they publicly already praised Omega inumerous times
@@takezoman Bret Hart also said Melina was the best wrestler in the world and Triple H has never had a good match, he said Ric Flair sucked in the ring. Kurt Angle thinks AJ Styles is a better wrestler than Bryan Danielson and said that Bryan was only "very good" just because he's never been in the ring with him. Ric Flair said that Andrade vs Buddy Murphy was the best match he'd seen all year that didn't involve Charlotte. I swear to God, you can't make this shit up. Flair and Booker T are known bullshitters and clowns. Just because you're in a field doesn't mean that you know everything about it, not to mention, Bret Hart recently criticized wrestling and why he doesn't watch it anymore, and while he didn't name Omega, everything he criticized is exactly what Omega does. Cornette has been in the business for 40 years and blisters Omegas complete inability to make sense of anything constantly, but I guess because his opinion is negative and not positive, you'll just ignore that even though he's gotten into a ring. If you're gonna discount his opinion because it's negative, you've got to discount the positive ones too and maybe just accept that an opinion is an opinion and doesn't carry any more weight than a fans.
Kenny Omega is good at executing athletic moves with no psychology and no logic in random, put together sequences that don't flow together properly, and then every now and then, Bryan or Okada will carry him to a match that they take the lead on and guide him by the hand through it and it's good because he's not the point man.
Spots like that should only happen 2 maybe 3 times in a wrestlers career. They also need to be done in a meaningful way
The Kahn's just want the money that's why aew will be the next wcw minus all the cool things wcw did
Anthony Khan really doesn't give a fuck
Tony is a goof
Pipe down eco Bryan