Useful tip for the PZH 2000, vidar etc.: use the m107pf. You can change between proxy and impact now. No real use for the simple he shell. Maybe on the vidar since the m107 is almost half as slow as the one in the PZH 2000.
Proxy fuse shells set to impact are in a weird spot right now because the damage is apparently inconsistent compared to regular HE ( not overpressuring a Tiger's hull roof when shooting the turret face for example) It's a weird bug and idk if it's been patched yet.
@@ZephyrCuga the only bug i encountered was that the proxy set to impact would rarery bounce off . I remember bouncing the new chineze spg. I was not that surprised since i reguarly see heatfs bounce off armor. Hell i saw a missle bounce off a bmp 2 once.
@@ciprianpasca7738 yeah the ricochet angles for explosive shells are usually pretty low compared to AP rounds. That and the server sees different things so simulation scuffery is plenty common. I just hope they fix shell tracers being something like 4 meters too high compared to where shells are hitting. I see shot tracers go miles above my head and should miss, but they hit me instead. It's terrible.
not judging, but why do you use the OE F3 shell on your PzH? the M107 (especially the PF variant when you disable the radio fuse) has basically the same speed, same explosive filler, same pen values, etc. Only difference is the cost of SL, where the 107 shell is free to fire, whereas the OE F3 shell costs a little to fire
That would be very annoying, but then again, it's not like pzh 2000 is a vehicle you wanna push aggressively with. Also come on, those guys must've had a lot of fun role playing as a nearly full artillery battery :D
@@Darknight_84930 alright if they were spawn camping then yeah that's a problem. The original comment didn't mention spawn camping, so I thought they were just camping a point or some other spot
@@o-hogameplay185 It's no longer faster than the default M107 shell, they finally fixed the muzzle velocity, but it still doesn't make sense to take it over the HE-VT.
@@o-hogameplay185 But it's not faster anymore you dork, M107, the default shell, and M107 (PF), the proxy round, have the same velocity now since they fixed M107.
IDK, I suspect there’s more rushed release other than the reload rate. Friends and I struggled to kill a single one at 500m using capped ammo. We were getting no spall, despite our hit cams showing the shells bursting.
This this is the bane of my existence at 8.0 right now. Getting cross mapped over and over again in my vehicles that lack a stabilizer and LRF is getting very old very fast
0:08 > Reload without a ready rack is still OK at 7.5s that's what I thought when see _10sec (with skill) reload_ if 6sec is too wild maybe give like 8sec barely out reload everything
It really isn't when Irl it's 3.3s, the entire purpose of thr pzh2k is a super complex autoloader that fires super quickly, and they took it away from it
I will always uphold the belief that SPH should just be removed from the game. It is a class never meant for tank v tank combat, and it shows in game by removing absolutely all skill-based counter against them. Only luck can safe you from these dumb one shot orbital strikes.
When people mention the fact that PzH 2000 fires 3 rounds in 9 seconds, I always wonder - is it in station or in motion? Because if it`s in station, it would be highly inaccurate to have this feature and be able to move around the map
people ''praise'' snail that they fixed it meanwhile there still is a lot wrong with it. the reload still is not what it actualy has wrong rounds etc. just like with the rdf/lt yeah they buffed it its still wrong in so many ways.
I'm glad people are playing the PZH, turns a lot of 8.3 games into downtiers and the bradley is amazing at picking them apart, even from a distance. Would recommend.
Bruh just give it the proper 3.3s reload, thermals and bump it up to like 8.3, even 4-5s would be okay if they just give it a good ready rack and bump it up in BR
The PzH is surprisingly spongy too, I’ve tank big rounds or magically they bounce of something
i waisted 6 aphe shooting pzh and it didnt want to die
Yeah, unlike other SPG arty it’s .50 cal proof
Tanked a LANCET to the roof IRL
But then everything bigger than a hmg ends you
Yet i die from overpressure when atgms hits my barrel
What only it lack is the functioning stabilizer that does available on this thing but not working at all currently
If they add it, they'll bump it up even higher in BR. As this thing's already undertiered.
@alexmaximus9134 a 155mm artillery will never be undertiered.
@@Paronak Yes it is, it sits at a too low of a BR.
The stabilizer in-game is to reduce the effects of recoil
@alexmaximus9134it performs better at higher BRs, that's the problem. Moving it up won't change anything unless they move it to top tier
Useful tip for the PZH 2000, vidar etc.: use the m107pf. You can change between proxy and impact now. No real use for the simple he shell. Maybe on the vidar since the m107 is almost half as slow as the one in the PZH 2000.
Ppl who ask m107 on PzH increased to 900m/s didn't know how to use it properly lol
The real fun is slow HE shell + lrf just like vidar currently is
Proxy fuse shells set to impact are in a weird spot right now because the damage is apparently inconsistent compared to regular HE ( not overpressuring a Tiger's hull roof when shooting the turret face for example)
It's a weird bug and idk if it's been patched yet.
@@ZephyrCuga the only bug i encountered was that the proxy set to impact would rarery bounce off . I remember bouncing the new chineze spg. I was not that surprised since i reguarly see heatfs bounce off armor. Hell i saw a missle bounce off a bmp 2 once.
@@ciprianpasca7738 yeah the ricochet angles for explosive shells are usually pretty low compared to AP rounds. That and the server sees different things so simulation scuffery is plenty common.
I just hope they fix shell tracers being something like 4 meters too high compared to where shells are hitting. I see shot tracers go miles above my head and should miss, but they hit me instead. It's terrible.
"pretty decent"
Meanwhile, my bro: 105 kills in top tier assault, single life in the PzH 2K
Assault mode means nothing
nobody ever plays assault
@@amx8336 speak for yourself please
@@amx8336I played it yesterday, full lobby as well btw
not judging, but why do you use the OE F3 shell on your PzH? the M107 (especially the PF variant when you disable the radio fuse) has basically the same speed, same explosive filler, same pen values, etc.
Only difference is the cost of SL, where the 107 shell is free to fire, whereas the OE F3 shell costs a little to fire
Gonna be honest.. I was a bit annoyed facing like 5 of them just camping and slinging HE one after another until you over pressure.
That would be very annoying, but then again, it's not like pzh 2000 is a vehicle you wanna push aggressively with. Also come on, those guys must've had a lot of fun role playing as a nearly full artillery battery :D
@thebossman9176 spawn camping 💀
@@Darknight_84930 alright if they were spawn camping then yeah that's a problem. The original comment didn't mention spawn camping, so I thought they were just camping a point or some other spot
You can kill the thing by shooting its turret side before it even sees you around a corner
Why you carry ordinary HE and HE with a radio fuse? Gaijin made a button in settings which can switch radio fuse mode, direct hit or radio fuse
yeah it's weird, because the VT is even faster than the regular, and has more filler (tho same pen)
@@o-hogameplay185 It's no longer faster than the default M107 shell, they finally fixed the muzzle velocity, but it still doesn't make sense to take it over the HE-VT.
@@Pawniac that's what i said, the VT is faster.
@@o-hogameplay185 But the VT is not faster you donut, M107 and M107 (PF) have the same muzzle velocity.
@@o-hogameplay185 But it's not faster anymore you dork, M107, the default shell, and M107 (PF), the proxy round, have the same velocity now since they fixed M107.
What I really like is the composite rooftop screens so now I can’t get shredded to death by 20 and 30mm autocannons from the sky
IDK, I suspect there’s more rushed release other than the reload rate.
Friends and I struggled to kill a single one at 500m using capped ammo. We were getting no spall, despite our hit cams showing the shells bursting.
Oh so they modeled the spall liner and it just doesn’t show? Good
@ Hell if I know. All we could confirm is that you’re basically doing no damage when shooting the fighting compartment.
I dont understand why there is a stabilizer mode for it. You can even see on the gameplay in the left bottom corner that it says STAB
For the visor maybe.
"your fragile body can be pretty tasty bait against slow loaders" 🤨🤨🤨
A quote for the history books, or a court transcript
So... It's missing a stabilizer, spall liners and a SAP round?
Yes
Please man, the PLZ05 needs to have at least one thing unique to it besides its suspension
@ tf is that supposed to mean?
Decent is a bit of a missunderstatement, its very good at 7.7 and suprisingly tanky sometimes
This this is the bane of my existence at 8.0 right now. Getting cross mapped over and over again in my vehicles that lack a stabilizer and LRF is getting very old very fast
As if most maps werent city anyway
Leopard 2 chassis at mid tier is wild
IMO this should be uptiered to 8.0, its like a sidegrade to VIDAR with lower reload
What?? The VIDAR has Gen 2 thermals if the PZH 2000 moves to 8.0 the VIDAR goes to 8.3
This one sould go 8.0. WW2 tank against Pzh 2000?
It's an artillery piece that isn't meant for direct fire vs tanks.
@@Juel92that doesn't discount the fact it's still insanely good. you could put this at 8.7 or something and it would do completely fine
@@cl3matis8.0 with thermals. Thats all. And already at 8.0 it could face bmp3s.
@@cl3matis Ironically if it went up it might have an easier time because late heavy tanks are harder for arty to kill than MBTs.
@@Juel92 you say that because you havent experience of using ww2 tank against pzh 2000. Try use m41 bulldog against that tank in long range combat.
0:08 > Reload without a ready rack is still OK at 7.5s
that's what I thought when see _10sec (with skill) reload_ if 6sec is too wild maybe give like 8sec barely out reload everything
It really isn't when Irl it's 3.3s, the entire purpose of thr pzh2k is a super complex autoloader that fires super quickly, and they took it away from it
@@eliradinsky7088 All ground vehicles have shorter reloads than what we got in-game
snail decide to use reload as a balance factor
@@eliradinsky7088Its 5sec irl...
@@nuklear7074 nope, 3.3 irl lol
@@eliradinsky7088 3 shots in 10 sec means 5sec reload. Its the oficial reload time.
Great, now make it 3 seconds and it's authentic. Bump it up in BR for that, I don't care.
5sec is fine. Give it thermals and move it to 8.0
nah dont ask gaijin for more or else theyll nerf the reload rate again 😭😭
tell me you can't do math without you telling me you can't do math
8.7@@DanySdowo
It should already be 8.0, its reload is amazing, better then Type 99 and thats its whole gimmick
조준창 초록점 추가는 무슨 모드인가요?
이제 레거측 측정다음에 영점조절도 해주나요?
I thought it doesn't auto-set distance when ranging?
only laser rangefinders
I smell a BR bump tbh
PzH 2K is weak enough to be overpressured by IKV-91's HEAT-FS
it is not ok. it's epic. When a skilled guy gets a full down tier, he cooks. (I also did :])
Nice. I don't get why they butchered it so much to begin with.
Gaijin is using wrong stat to bait out documents' we all know what country Gaijin comes from
힐링이 되는 포트리스 음악을 들으니 좋네요
Use the M107 round, it’s faster and has more explosive mass.
I will always uphold the belief that SPH should just be removed from the game. It is a class never meant for tank v tank combat, and it shows in game by removing absolutely all skill-based counter against them. Only luck can safe you from these dumb one shot orbital strikes.
I got more aircraft kills with this than with an Spaa lmao
Should'nt you use the M107 instead of 155mm OE F3 since the M107 has more TNT equivalent and is faster
자주포에 포트리스bgm은 정말 잘 어울리네요
Artiljerija but Challenger 2 and is Deutsche Qualität
vidar have thermal,more armor, better mobility... and only 0.3 br+
Finally, now just give me one in the Italian tech tree, because they use more of them than Hungary does.
yes
mfw my amx-13 gets blasted from 1400m (this is the second time)
PzH2000이 8.0 가길 바란다 ㄹㅇ로
can't wait for the "iT sHoUlD hAvE 3s ReLoAd" comments
god forbid Gaijin would model vehicle correctly once right
@@Pischingers huh?
it should have 3 second reload
it should you sovtard
Gaijin advertises the game as a realistic simulator so it should be realistic
Another good spg for the 95% of stupid GerMains, and 5% greatest skilled GerMains that always be your opponents.
3min ago? nice vid
I like that ❤
When people mention the fact that PzH 2000 fires 3 rounds in 9 seconds, I always wonder - is it in station or in motion? Because if it`s in station, it would be highly inaccurate to have this feature and be able to move around the map
Welp, can't wait for Gaijin to add the 2S7 Pion with a 2.5 reload rate.
Would be really bad
아니 그래서 BR도 높은데 장전속도는 훨씬 느린 비다르는 버프 안해줌? 가이진 게이들아
balansed)))))))))))
no thermals lol
people ''praise'' snail that they fixed it meanwhile there still is a lot wrong with it.
the reload still is not what it actualy has wrong rounds etc.
just like with the rdf/lt yeah they buffed it its still wrong in so many ways.
what, reload, wrong?
Shouldnt the pzh2000 get SAP, i dont remember. And M982 Excalibur also
I'm glad people are playing the PZH, turns a lot of 8.3 games into downtiers and the bradley is amazing at picking them apart, even from a distance. Would recommend.
At least it can semi reliably deal with the op American heavy tanks
Thats cool and all but its still not realistic. Balance and whatnot I guess.
there's genuine footage out there of panzerhaubitze 2000s pumping out 20 rounds in 1 minute.
first 3 shots in 10 seconds
@@Promethean_NZ Its even on youtube lmfao, no sekrit documents required.
Bruh just give it the proper 3.3s reload, thermals and bump it up to like 8.3, even 4-5s would be okay if they just give it a good ready rack and bump it up in BR
Very early