@@thematicschematic Thank you for the reference. No sarcasm. The majority of times someone says the word "industrial" in terms of music, it's some "industrial rock" style (like the OP), which tends to - not be very industrial at all. Electro-industrial like SP is far better, imo.
This might have been the unbelievably thin digital camera I had seen in the hands of a Japanese tourist inside the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, sometime in 1999-2000. I remember staring at it for far longer than I should have.
I love how some random and specific memories from our lives remain clear and vivid in our minds, while others are completely forgotten. Thanks for sharing!
Hey, LGR! Here's a little more background info on the DJ-1000: The images are stored on the CF card as 128K files in a FAT12 (DOS) Filesystem. This is convenient because it is a primitive enough filesystem that just about anything can read it; Linux and NetBSD PCMCIA support works fine, and even the Psion 5 palmtop has no problem finding the individual MDSC*.DAT files on the card. EDIT: In hindsight, is it possible that the reason why even a freshly-formatted card was "full" is because Windows formatted it as a FAT16 volume instead of FAT12, so the camera didn't recognize it? By default, Windows 95 uses FAT16B, aka "BigFAT". The image files have four image planes, with different sensitivities. The planes are 8 bits per pixel, and the pixels are physically offset from each other, which is how they get from 256x128 to 504x378. The two "missing" scan lines at the end appear to be zero except for some metadata: * a four byte "signature" which is always C4,B2,E3,22; without these bytes at this position, the vendor software will not attempt to process the image. * a four byte "camera version" which is displayed by the program as-is; 00,02,00,03 appears as "camera version 2.03". * a constant byte 01. * four more bytes which seem to have no effect on what the program does, but do vary per-image; they may be related to the "color balancing" but the vendor software doesn't appear to need them. And one more interesting fact: Technically, it *isn't* a Mitsubishi. _Sanyo_ built it. From what I'm able to piece together, the camera was originally designed by Microdia, and licensed to Mitsubishi and Umax. Mitsubishi must've outsourced the production of the camera to Sanyo. The camera was called the DJ-1 in Japan, and had a different color case. The Umax version is called the PhotoRun. The original Microdia QuickShot prototype was apparently never sold.
Great info! I was curious about why formatting it would screw it up. Figured it may use some proprietary formatting scheme but then you would need the software to install some driver and new cards wouldn't work without being formatted beforehand. But FAT12 makes sense. Great details here.... where'd you get all this info?
+Sam Cyanide Well, as much as I'd like to claim credit for the research, I can't. I got this info from two sources: (1) The Digital Camera Museum, which is where I found out that it is also called the DJ-1 and the UMAX PhotoRun, and that Sanyo built it; and (2) a blog called "The Herd of Kittens", which is where I found the information on the FAT12 file system and the structure of the DAT files. Here are the links: www.digicammuseum.com/en/cameras/item/mitsubishi-dj-1000 www.thok.org/intranet/djcam/djcam.html
Can't wait to take a picture with my Mitsubishi camera of my Mitsubishi car being lifted by my Mitsubishi forklift while enjoying my Mitsubishi air-conditioning
Sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know of a method to get back into an instagram account?? I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me!
I'm a professional photographer and I absolutely love these early digital cameras, I'm so glad to see you making more videos about them, keep it going ! If you can find yourself some early digital backs for film cameras (such as the Kodak ones which were to be mounted on Nikon F4 cameras and the like), I think it could make for some very interesting videos ! Also, the streaks that you see from the highlights are due to the CCD sensors receiving too much light and "overflowing", causing a streak, and sometimes a stain (often green or blue) It's also called blooming, bleeding, smearing, or even ghosting
Blooming is different from vertical smear in CCDs. What you explained was blooming, yes, basically overflowing to adjacent pixels. Smear happens due to the way the sensor is read out, while blooming is the overflowing during exposure.
Very cool camera, speaking of Mitsubishi I've got a high end CRT made by them, 22" 2048x1536 @ 85Hz pretty much as good as it gets for a 4:3 aspect ratio CRT.
I need to dig up my first digital camera I bought in 2000 for my big trip to London and Paris. It's probably buried in a box somewhere, along with its two 128MB memory sticks and a tiny 4MB stick which I think came with it. I wonder if there are still photos on those sticks? The nostalgia on your channel is both delightful and almost painful in a way! A time I'll never get back, existing only in memories and TH-cam channels like this one!
I always wondered why a music instrument company made atvs... My first introduction to Yamaha was a trumpet I got in third grade. It's still weird to me that they use the same tuning fork logo on their small engine stuff.
Yamaha was forced to make small military vehicles using their factory when they couldn't sell their pianos during World War II, after the war, they never stopped this side business.
My own grandparents had one. It was a 40" and I was surprised it was a tube TV more than anything. I don't know what it weighed, but after my own 110 pound / 50kg 27" Trinitron, I can't imagine it was light.
Funny stuff. In the beginning you have a picture of "Mitsubishi Electric Halle" in Düsseldorf - Close to where I live and been there for an event lately :) Love your work man. Brings back many memories. Just go on.
Sheesh. You are the only guy I know that can make me feel both guilty and sad that I got rid of the camera that came FREE with my Ulead Photo Express Software I got in 1997. It was definitely on par with this one; maybe even less.
I actually had a Umax Photorun back in 1997, bought in CANADA, but I don't remember what store (got it after the Xapshot you talked about three weeks ago, which I had since 1989). My Photorun though came with the Parallel port card reader for desktops...a cable from one end of the reader plugged into the parallel port, there was a cable that plugged into the keyboard port for power, and it had a pass-through for the printer. If you want to talk about my next camera too, it was the JamCam! ;-)
I remember well the UMAX cameras. That Mitsubishi camera was sold in Europe as UMAX. I had in 1997 a very good UMAX scanner. Scanners could deliver better quality of photos than early very expensive compact digital cameras.
Who else was waiting for the picture of the conductor and the tiger for the comparison. I love that you always use this same place for the comparisons as it means I can look at your other camera videos and immediately see the difference!!! Great job as always Clint.
As an amateur photographer and avid collector of older digital and film cameras I absolutely love your digital camera reviews. I have heard of most variations of products from the major digital camera manufacturers but I had never honestly heard of the DJ-1000 until I saw this video. Great work as always!!
6:28 Always love the comparison between the Note 8 and the cameras that you get. It's wild to think that those cameras were the standard (or were they?)
I agree with Andrej. My then girlfriends circa 1995 £50 Canon 35mm Film Point and Shoot took better pictures than my Canon 3 MegaPixel Digital Point and Shoot which cost me £400 in 2002. Actually LGRs early digicam photos always remind me of the photos I took with the cheap 126 Prinz and 110 Halina cameras I had in the 1970s.
We had a Mitsubishi Pc in the 90s. Our first home computer, the Mitsubishi Apricot. What a beast with its 8MB RAM; an Intel Pentium 1, 120MHz processor; an ATI 3D Rage GPU; and an absolutely massive 1.25GB HDD, just about big enough to fit Baldurs Gate 2, which is what I played on it the most outside of Magic Carpet 2.
That green line thing is when the sensor elements (pixels) over saturate and the electrons bleed over into the adjacent elements in that row and if strong enough or crap enough sensor it continues along the entire row. As for why it's green, maybe the sensor is most sensitive to that wavelength.
You should take a look at the Nikon D1 from 1999. It was the first pro DSLR built in-house by a camera company, independently from Kodak or Fujifilm. It's a lot like a modern DSLR, except for some 90's-era quirks like old camcorder menus and images being in NTSC color instead of RGB. Also works with nearly every Nikon lens made. The Kodak DCS cameras are more interesting, but they're a pain in the ass to get up and running, and they're pretty expensive now that they're a collectors item.
I'd love to do a whole photo exhibition of digital photos using these pre-2000 digital cameras. As Clint said, they output their own unique look on a subject.
It might be sacrilege to you, but you've inspired me to recreate this look with my camera, haha. These 90's digital sensor artifacts are really doing it for me.
I'm impressed digital cameras were a thing in 1997. I remember seeing the first one around 2005 and being "wooooow, you can now see the picture before you take it"
Somewhat reminds of me of the pathetic and terrible Fujifilm digital cam I bought in the early 2000s. Was it good? No. Did it take photos that held a special place in my heart? Yes. There's something to be said for a digital device that delivers the mystery of film photography. "Did that shot turn out? I'll know later"
XFolf Yeah I had a fujifilm I used in 2011 for a Statue of Liberty trip and I still have (albeit deactivated and probably dead) and it brings similar nostalgia to this.
That's why I enjoy playing around with an old Kodak dc50 I got at a thrift store, take 11 shots onto the internal memory to fill it, then hook the serial cable up and run the software to retrieve the photos and see how they turned out
lolz I actually had one of these when I was younger. It was a delightful little camera, if an absolute pain to deal with files on it. Thank you very much for yet another !Nostalgia trip!
By the way, that streaking at 6:49 ocurs because electrons generated by the sensor are overflowing into adjacent pixels. More light = more electrons so more bleeding/blooming.
I find myself relaxing to whatever LGR has to present, the dulcet narration and lounge music... I think LGR could present "Welcome to another end of the world comet hitting earth thing..." and we'd sitting around chilling out as the sky started to boil and not be overly concerned about it. Another great and interesting video LGR, thanks! 😁
I used to have one of those 'credit card' size digital cameras some time around the 2000s.. I'm reminded a little of that by this camera as it had no functions on it either bar a lens shutter (which switched the camera on) and a button to take photos. From what I remember it was only 640x480 resolution and had a fixed memory of about 2mb(?)
Was just about to post the same thing. I think I got it as a freebie with something, could have been with a cereal box or front of a magazine or something? I seem to recall the battery life on it was terrible (and if the battery died your pictures were gone), but it could also be used as a webcam, which is what I used it for.
I remember those vertical streaks as a distinctive CCD thing. I even recognized them in Tron: Legacy which had its live action footage shot with Sony F35 cameras and Phantom HD right before pretty much all digital cameras switched from straight RGB patterned CCD's to Bayer Pattern CMOS chip sensors. It was simply a funny little quirk they had. I'm honestly surprised no manufacturer built a camera with the CCD rotated 90 degrees and called the resulting horizontal streaks "cinematic".
@@kaitlyn__L The actual physics that made RGB-pattern CCD's flare in that way, I don't know. All I can say is that it did happen. As for JJ. He's been a film-shooter for as long as he has been able to shoot on film. On that format the blue streaking of superbright lightsources was not a recording medium thing. It's from the horizontal squeezer of anamorphic lensing that makes light bounce around uneavenly inside the lens. Most lens manyfacturers for decades tried ro minimize this effect with special coatings on the glass elements but some filmmakers love that quirk, JJ will even put in tiny LED flashlights in shots to manually provoke the lense flaring and they'll order special runs of the lenses that don't get the coatings that minimizes them. As for the recent trend towards 2:1 imaging in movies, that is more of an aesthetic choice than something derived from technical specs of sensors. Most cinema grade cameras nowadays get high enough resolution so they can safely crop to pretty much any ratio the producers and distributors will agree to. A lot of filmmakers go for the slightly wider than 16:9 of 2.00:1 but not as vertically limiting 2.39:1 to fit slightly taller framings. Others, like netflix, I suspect, choose it because black bars look cinematic on TV and it fills up more space on phones. 2.00:1 historically have crept up from time to time historically. From early 70mm Fox grandeur to the cheapo cinemascope competitor SuperScope. And for a while it was lobbied as the go to format Univisium by Vittorio Storaro. Yes... For some reason, my mind really loves unnecessary details around image shapes. Sorry about that. :P
I was wondering when this one would show up! Got one when I was younger at a pawn shop.. loved it... even though quality wasn't exactly great and the lack of flash pretty annoying.. haha
Got this as a hand-me-down from my father when he upgraded to a real deluxe digital camera. I took it to school and the size was great to be able to snap quick photos. Yearbook people liked that I had, about halfway through my senior year. (I still have the adapter somewhere around here, but dunno about the camera...)
Man, every time you do a camera video, while I absolutely respect your preference for taking pics of things that look like they would have fit in perfectly with the time period of the camera, my inner love of anachronism is always sad at not being able to see what really modern-looking things would look like through the same lens.
The delete issue must be due to the file system. I might be wrong, but when Windows deletes a file, it just changes the first character to ? So, 0001.dat becomes ?001.dat Windows knows not to bother with that, but the camera might not. Formatting is much the same if it's not a full format. I would guess maybe changing the file system or writing over with junk data might work.
Actually, that's partially correct. It wrote over the first character with 0x00 (a null character). Recovery software like _Recuva_ puts a ? there because it doesn't know what the first character _used_ to be. Oh, the images are stored as 128K files in a FAT12 (DOS) filesystem. The reason they used this is because it is primitive enough that almost anything can read it; Linux and NetBSD PCMCIA support works fine, and even the Psion 5 palmtop has no problem finding the individual *.DAT files on the card. FAT12 is an interesting limit by itself - a FAT12 filesystem is at most 16M, and thus can hold no more than 127 pictures. It's amusing that you can find 32G cards on Amazon that are advertised as "compatible with" the DJ-1000. SURE they are... if you don't mind the fact that you're wasting 98.4% of the card!
That crazy highlight glitch is called blooming. I learned about it in photo school at just about the time that technology finally fixed it. I've never seen it in the wild like this before. Nice!
Great video, I've never seen this camera before. The smallest digital camera I remember was one that fit on a keyring that you can buy from Walmart and it worked with Windows XP, but that was around 2007.
Dang, in 97 (And up until about 2005) I just used disposable cameras. Then again, I didn't have a "modern" computer until 2001, and even then all I had was a crummy "Jazz" camera that refused to take pictures without a blaring light in the background. Seriously, it only let you take pictures that were over-exposed. It would go "ERRT!" if you tried to take a picture in normal circumstances. Oddly enough, it made an excellent webcam for using over dial up connections. Still loved my disposables. Would just keep one in my purse at all times in high school and even a little after.
Wow 15 pictures of 240x320 or 320x512 resolution!!?? on a 2MB cf flash card is not much but it’s not bad, even snes street fighter 2 on snes took that amount of space.
Thank you for the video LGR :D wasn't much of a camera person growing up, still have problems being in pictures/smiling even today, but I can take them no problem. Lol.
I had one of these back in the day. My dad worked at a JVC distribution center in the returns department and they were shipped these by mistake. I was able to get one and it was a great camera.
Great video! Never had any experience with these early digital camera's, but I remember reading reviews for them in PC mags back in the day and my thoughts at the time were eew! Looking back now, it seems the only cheap way of getting good quality 'Digital' photos in the mid to late 90's was to use a decent quality film camera, get the pictures developed (oh yeah, one hour photo!) and then scan them on to the PC later. Oh how times have changed! :)
That was so cool man. You should just keep that on you at all times. The pictures look really cool. Please more LGR food videos on your other channel. That sandwich looked so good in your last video. "Num num num, num, num num. Sandvich makes me strong!"
This camera would have been awesome to have as a child in the 90s. I was just given a hand me down vivitar point and click but at least it auto wound the film. Love the video as always Clint!
I have an interest in photography, so I love these videos about the oddball cameras in your collection. I think it might be my second favourite thing on your channel (after LGR thrifts).
Man, I'm only tangentially interested in photography, but these old digital camera videos are always fascinating. It's almost shocking to see the image quality that was good enough back in the 90s. I guess digital developing for 35mm film wasn't all that widespread back then though; aside from a scanner, there weren't many better ways to get your images onto a computer. I worked at a grocery store customer service deck from 1998-2005, and I remember when the photo developing envelopes started pushing the option to get your photos on a CD-ROM alongside your prints. Hardly anyone did it; I'm guessing because anyone who needed to digitize their photos probably already had a digital camera or a scanner.
My first digital camera was a Toshiba PDR-2. It's back was hinged to act a PCMCIA card. It had no screen and was quite compact, basically the size of a PCMCIA card.
7 seconds before 7:00, no less! Aren't they original wheels? They look great to me. I have an FB and an FD. If only I had the space and money for an FC... I'd probably get an Esprit instead
"A some what annoying little thing but absolutely charming & I adore it never the less..." Sounds like the story of my life. 🤔 Really cool & random 90s tech review LGR!
7:28 that shot would of been perfect if the BB&T building was still there. I love seeing the odd tourist pull into that one-way sometimes. Should also take shots of the Innsbruck Mall for some vintage photos.
Clint your recent camera videos have been fascinating :) this camera reminds me of this tiny little point and shoot my dad got back in the very early 2000s the photos were terrible compared to his cannon film camera but he loved that thing. Would fill entire cdrs with random nature shots. Or print out cd labels with photos he took :) i wish i still had that thing around somewhere
I love stuff like this!!! An obscure piece of tech, a blip in time... Someone in Mitsubishi Electric thought "We need to get into a niche market...Well if Sanyo can do it... why can't we?". Mitsubishi makes so much electrical tech, I just knew about the Air Conditioner and Semi-Conductor divisions, they have plants around here when you look into them, they make anything electrical.
That camera might be about the size of the wallet I use. (Also, I was born in 1997, so it's nice to learn about what existed when I was born. Great video as always, LGR! 👍🏽)
That alleyway shot is awesome, looks like it could be a mid 90s industrial metal album cover
Less 'Too Dark Park,' more 'Too Bright Sky?'
Seeing Skinny Puppy mentioned on a LGR thing, really made my day
I was thinking the same thing! that Alleyway could easily be used for a album cover.
Lazy Game Nails
@@thematicschematic Thank you for the reference. No sarcasm. The majority of times someone says the word "industrial" in terms of music, it's some "industrial rock" style (like the OP), which tends to - not be very industrial at all. Electro-industrial like SP is far better, imo.
*Sherpness*
7:41
*_Unsherp_* =============[]== *_Sherp_*
MORE SHERPNESS
errrrrm... sherp?
I wast just eating when I saw that part. Now the food is on my laptop screen... Thanks LGR!
Sherp-a-derp
If someone can add that as an Urban Dictionary definition, that would be amazing :D
This might have been the unbelievably thin digital camera I had seen in the hands of a Japanese tourist inside the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, sometime in 1999-2000. I remember staring at it for far longer than I should have.
I love how some random and specific memories from our lives remain clear and vivid in our minds, while others are completely forgotten.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey, LGR! Here's a little more background info on the DJ-1000:
The images are stored on the CF card as 128K files in a FAT12 (DOS) Filesystem. This is convenient because it is a primitive enough filesystem that just about anything can read it; Linux and NetBSD PCMCIA support works fine, and even the Psion 5 palmtop has no problem finding the individual MDSC*.DAT files on the card.
EDIT: In hindsight, is it possible that the reason why even a freshly-formatted card was "full" is because Windows formatted it as a FAT16 volume instead of FAT12, so the camera didn't recognize it? By default, Windows 95 uses FAT16B, aka "BigFAT".
The image files have four image planes, with different sensitivities. The planes are 8 bits per pixel, and the pixels are physically offset from each other, which is how they get from 256x128 to 504x378.
The two "missing" scan lines at the end appear to be zero except for some metadata:
* a four byte "signature" which is always C4,B2,E3,22; without these bytes at this position, the vendor software will not attempt to process the image.
* a four byte "camera version" which is displayed by the program as-is; 00,02,00,03 appears as "camera version 2.03".
* a constant byte 01.
* four more bytes which seem to have no effect on what the program does, but do vary per-image; they may be related to the "color balancing" but the vendor software doesn't appear to need them.
And one more interesting fact: Technically, it *isn't* a Mitsubishi. _Sanyo_ built it. From what I'm able to piece together, the camera was originally designed by Microdia, and licensed to Mitsubishi and Umax. Mitsubishi must've outsourced the production of the camera to Sanyo. The camera was called the DJ-1 in Japan, and had a different color case. The Umax version is called the PhotoRun. The original Microdia QuickShot prototype was apparently never sold.
man I feel old now.. fat12
Great info! I was curious about why formatting it would screw it up. Figured it may use some proprietary formatting scheme but then you would need the software to install some driver and new cards wouldn't work without being formatted beforehand. But FAT12 makes sense. Great details here.... where'd you get all this info?
+Sam Cyanide Well, as much as I'd like to claim credit for the research, I can't. I got this info from two sources: (1) The Digital Camera Museum, which is where I found out that it is also called the DJ-1 and the UMAX PhotoRun, and that Sanyo built it; and (2) a blog called "The Herd of Kittens", which is where I found the information on the FAT12 file system and the structure of the DAT files.
Here are the links:
www.digicammuseum.com/en/cameras/item/mitsubishi-dj-1000
www.thok.org/intranet/djcam/djcam.html
keep doin what you're doin and the internet is gonna become a better place. you're an example as to how people should use the youtube comments.
Quality post OP
i actually LOVE the look of this camera's photos
I love the look of this camera. Photos are pretty bad tho. Worse than already pretty crappy Casio QV-30 :(.
Can't wait to take a picture with my Mitsubishi camera of my Mitsubishi car being lifted by my Mitsubishi forklift while enjoying my Mitsubishi air-conditioning
Don't forget to write the picture on a Mitsubishi CD-R using your Mitsubishi CD-RW drive.
I have a Mitsubishi stereo
I took my Mitsubishi camera to my mechanic... He looked at me funny.
You forgot taking a flight on your Mitsubshi jet airliner.
Yo dawg...
"As usual with older cameras I enjoy taking photos of things that would've been around when it was new" shows picture of himself LOL
I always enjoy his selfies, though.
Help. I'm Lost. Being fair, unlike me he was alive back then.
WHO, HO WHEEZE HO HE HA HA HA HA HA
Sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know of a method to get back into an instagram account??
I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me!
@Chase Tommy instablaster =)
This bag's shade of blue was so 90s! It was literally everywhere, even the dividing walls of the cubicles in my office back then were this color.
Loud. It is about the loudest shade of blue I've ever seen. : )
Damn, is that circus ever leaving town?
Clint probably uses his Patreon money to get them to stay there so he can keep using them as interesting photo subjects.
@@SmaMan Or the circus is abandoned.
And here I thought I was the only one noticing the exact same subjects at the same exact angle appearing in every camera video.
And then next year the GameBoy camera came out, what a time.
GameBoy Color*
Mitsubishi is sort of like yamaha ,they make literally everything.
Nokia? I have no idea what else Nokia does than cell phones...
From fighter planes to cameras.
i believe nokia makes boots.
@@h.m.8068 That's Nokian. Different company.
Actually Mitsubishi is exactly like Samsung, they make all and literally everything.
You know what other Japanese company made a lot of different stuff? Sherp. :D
5Lives Gaming I swear to God...
I don't know why, but I will never tire of LGR's retro digicam offerings. They're always so great
I'm a professional photographer and I absolutely love these early digital cameras, I'm so glad to see you making more videos about them, keep it going !
If you can find yourself some early digital backs for film cameras (such as the Kodak ones which were to be mounted on Nikon F4 cameras and the like), I think it could make for some very interesting videos !
Also, the streaks that you see from the highlights are due to the CCD sensors receiving too much light and "overflowing", causing a streak, and sometimes a stain (often green or blue)
It's also called blooming, bleeding, smearing, or even ghosting
Blooming is different from vertical smear in CCDs. What you explained was blooming, yes, basically overflowing to adjacent pixels. Smear happens due to the way the sensor is read out, while blooming is the overflowing during exposure.
Very cool camera, speaking of Mitsubishi I've got a high end CRT made by them, 22" 2048x1536 @ 85Hz pretty much as good as it gets for a 4:3 aspect ratio CRT.
This was incredible
Thank you!
Yes
I need to dig up my first digital camera I bought in 2000 for my big trip to London and Paris. It's probably buried in a box somewhere, along with its two 128MB memory sticks and a tiny 4MB stick which I think came with it. I wonder if there are still photos on those sticks? The nostalgia on your channel is both delightful and almost painful in a way! A time I'll never get back, existing only in memories and TH-cam channels like this one!
I remember my grandma had a really heavy Mitsubishi TV. I was a kid and a thought it was so weird a motorcycle factory making TVs haha
I always wondered why a music instrument company made atvs... My first introduction to Yamaha was a trumpet I got in third grade. It's still weird to me that they use the same tuning fork logo on their small engine stuff.
My parents still have a Mitsubishi VCR somewhere.
Yamaha was forced to make small military vehicles using their factory when they couldn't sell their pianos during World War II, after the war, they never stopped this side business.
Really? I wonder what they did to be forced to make flutes hahaha
My own grandparents had one. It was a 40" and I was surprised it was a tube TV more than anything. I don't know what it weighed, but after my own 110 pound / 50kg 27" Trinitron, I can't imagine it was light.
Funny stuff. In the beginning you have a picture of "Mitsubishi Electric Halle" in Düsseldorf - Close to where I live and been there for an event lately :)
Love your work man. Brings back many memories. Just go on.
Sheesh. You are the only guy I know that can make me feel both guilty and sad that I got rid of the camera that came FREE with my Ulead Photo Express Software I got in 1997. It was definitely on par with this one; maybe even less.
Getting close to 1mil subs there! Well deserved!
I actually had a Umax Photorun back in 1997, bought in CANADA, but I don't remember what store (got it after the Xapshot you talked about three weeks ago, which I had since 1989). My Photorun though came with the Parallel port card reader for desktops...a cable from one end of the reader plugged into the parallel port, there was a cable that plugged into the keyboard port for power, and it had a pass-through for the printer. If you want to talk about my next camera too, it was the JamCam! ;-)
I remember well the UMAX cameras. That Mitsubishi camera was sold in Europe as UMAX. I had in 1997 a very good UMAX scanner.
Scanners could deliver better quality of photos than early very expensive compact digital cameras.
Who else was waiting for the picture of the conductor and the tiger for the comparison. I love that you always use this same place for the comparisons as it means I can look at your other camera videos and immediately see the difference!!! Great job as always Clint.
As an amateur photographer and avid collector of older digital and film cameras I absolutely love your digital camera reviews. I have heard of most variations of products from the major digital camera manufacturers but I had never honestly heard of the DJ-1000 until I saw this video. Great work as always!!
6:28 Always love the comparison between the Note 8 and the cameras that you get. It's wild to think that those cameras were the standard (or were they?)
They weren't. Film cameras were the standard back then.
I agree with Andrej. My then girlfriends circa 1995 £50 Canon 35mm Film Point and Shoot took better pictures than my Canon 3 MegaPixel Digital Point and Shoot which cost me £400 in 2002. Actually LGRs early digicam photos always remind me of the photos I took with the cheap 126 Prinz and 110 Halina cameras I had in the 1970s.
We had a Mitsubishi Pc in the 90s. Our first home computer, the Mitsubishi Apricot. What a beast with its 8MB RAM; an Intel Pentium 1, 120MHz processor; an ATI 3D Rage GPU; and an absolutely massive 1.25GB HDD, just about big enough to fit Baldurs Gate 2, which is what I played on it the most outside of Magic Carpet 2.
DragonNexus Apricot was a UK company bought by Mitsubishi in 1990. Great computers. I had a 486 XEN
That green line thing is when the sensor elements (pixels) over saturate and the electrons bleed over into the adjacent elements in that row and if strong enough or crap enough sensor it continues along the entire row.
As for why it's green, maybe the sensor is most sensitive to that wavelength.
Your retro digital cameras videos are my favorites, your eye to take this vintage looking images is amazing.
You should take a look at the Nikon D1 from 1999. It was the first pro DSLR built in-house by a camera company, independently from Kodak or Fujifilm. It's a lot like a modern DSLR, except for some 90's-era quirks like old camcorder menus and images being in NTSC color instead of RGB. Also works with nearly every Nikon lens made.
The Kodak DCS cameras are more interesting, but they're a pain in the ass to get up and running, and they're pretty expensive now that they're a collectors item.
I'd love to do a whole photo exhibition of digital photos using these pre-2000 digital cameras. As Clint said, they output their own unique look on a subject.
It might be sacrilege to you, but you've inspired me to recreate this look with my camera, haha. These 90's digital sensor artifacts are really doing it for me.
I'm impressed digital cameras were a thing in 1997. I remember seeing the first one around 2005 and being "wooooow, you can now see the picture before you take it"
This video, was just awesome, relaxing, and somehow made me nostalgic for a product I never knew existed back then.
Somewhat reminds of me of the pathetic and terrible Fujifilm digital cam I bought in the early 2000s. Was it good? No. Did it take photos that held a special place in my heart? Yes. There's something to be said for a digital device that delivers the mystery of film photography. "Did that shot turn out? I'll know later"
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Yeah I had a fujifilm I used in 2011 for a Statue of Liberty trip and I still have (albeit deactivated and probably dead) and it brings similar nostalgia to this.
That's why I enjoy playing around with an old Kodak dc50 I got at a thrift store, take 11 shots onto the internal memory to fill it, then hook the serial cable up and run the software to retrieve the photos and see how they turned out
lolz
I actually had one of these when I was younger. It was a delightful little camera, if an absolute pain to deal with files on it.
Thank you very much for yet another !Nostalgia trip!
I love this type of old school tech, the pictures are fuzzy, blurry little masterpieces. ;)
One kilobyte of ram Awesome username. 👍
I keep looking at all the pictures you took and I'm just reminded of the camera quality used in 80's tokusatsu shows
I died at sherpness.
Ermahgerd!
Unsherp < Sherp
They're only as good as Google translates.
@Doge Maverick Mitsubishi are the company that managed to misspell Stallion as "Starion", so it's not unprecedented for them!
@@Lukeno52 That's just how stallion is written in katakana
Thanks, I couldn't remember how life was like back in 97. The green streaks definitely were there.
6:53 aw freakin yiss a Mazda Rx-7 FC3S, mid/late 80s awesomeness, rather fitting for the camera!
The design and color of it is actually still beautiful. Most old electronics look dated nowadays, but this has held up nicely.
By the way, that streaking at 6:49 ocurs because electrons generated by the sensor are overflowing into adjacent pixels. More light = more electrons so more bleeding/blooming.
You need to do a video showing us that ingles place. Super curious after seeing the sign so many times.
I believe it's headquartered in NC. There's one near me in Marion VA.
@BadDriversOf Georgia woooo now I want to see it more
Lol it's just a grocery store, I miss it though tbh they always had some damn good deals, so much better than Walmart.
Those photos look just like my childhood. A long time ago, fuzzy and out of focus, loved it!!
I find myself relaxing to whatever LGR has to present, the dulcet narration and lounge music... I think LGR could present "Welcome to another end of the world comet hitting earth thing..." and we'd sitting around chilling out as the sky started to boil and not be overly concerned about it. Another great and interesting video LGR, thanks! 😁
I used to have one of those 'credit card' size digital cameras some time around the 2000s.. I'm reminded a little of that by this camera as it had no functions on it either bar a lens shutter (which switched the camera on) and a button to take photos. From what I remember it was only 640x480 resolution and had a fixed memory of about 2mb(?)
Was just about to post the same thing. I think I got it as a freebie with something, could have been with a cereal box or front of a magazine or something? I seem to recall the battery life on it was terrible (and if the battery died your pictures were gone), but it could also be used as a webcam, which is what I used it for.
I remember those vertical streaks as a distinctive CCD thing. I even recognized them in Tron: Legacy which had its live action footage shot with Sony F35 cameras and Phantom HD right before pretty much all digital cameras switched from straight RGB patterned CCD's to Bayer Pattern CMOS chip sensors. It was simply a funny little quirk they had. I'm honestly surprised no manufacturer built a camera with the CCD rotated 90 degrees and called the resulting horizontal streaks "cinematic".
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The actual physics that made RGB-pattern CCD's flare in that way, I don't know. All I can say is that it did happen.
As for JJ. He's been a film-shooter for as long as he has been able to shoot on film. On that format the blue streaking of superbright lightsources was not a recording medium thing. It's from the horizontal squeezer of anamorphic lensing that makes light bounce around uneavenly inside the lens. Most lens manyfacturers for decades tried ro minimize this effect with special coatings on the glass elements but some filmmakers love that quirk, JJ will even put in tiny LED flashlights in shots to manually provoke the lense flaring and they'll order special runs of the lenses that don't get the coatings that minimizes them.
As for the recent trend towards 2:1 imaging in movies, that is more of an aesthetic choice than something derived from technical specs of sensors. Most cinema grade cameras nowadays get high enough resolution so they can safely crop to pretty much any ratio the producers and distributors will agree to. A lot of filmmakers go for the slightly wider than 16:9 of 2.00:1 but not as vertically limiting 2.39:1 to fit slightly taller framings. Others, like netflix, I suspect, choose it because black bars look cinematic on TV and it fills up more space on phones.
2.00:1 historically have crept up from time to time historically. From early 70mm Fox grandeur to the cheapo cinemascope competitor SuperScope. And for a while it was lobbied as the go to format Univisium by Vittorio Storaro.
Yes... For some reason, my mind really loves unnecessary details around image shapes. Sorry about that. :P
I was wondering when this one would show up! Got one when I was younger at a pawn shop.. loved it... even though quality wasn't exactly great and the lack of flash pretty annoying.. haha
My very first digital camera! And I still have it! I flew a million hours in my plane with that camera in my front pocket. Thanks.
I Love how you take the same photos with all the cameras. Really is a great way to see how they all work.
Thanks, that's certainly the idea :)
The Mitsubishi Electric Halle is located in my home town Düsseldorf in Germany. Thank you for putting a smile on my face. :)
Got this as a hand-me-down from my father when he upgraded to a real deluxe digital camera. I took it to school and the size was great to be able to snap quick photos. Yearbook people liked that I had, about halfway through my senior year. (I still have the adapter somewhere around here, but dunno about the camera...)
I live in the same area as you and I love seeing all these places through your old cameras!
7:17 Honestly looks like it was taken in the 1960s (or whatever year that the car was made in).
Man, every time you do a camera video, while I absolutely respect your preference for taking pics of things that look like they would have fit in perfectly with the time period of the camera, my inner love of anachronism is always sad at not being able to see what really modern-looking things would look like through the same lens.
One of my friends used to have a Mitsubishi computer that we played Sim City 3000 on and stuff. Oh the times
The delete issue must be due to the file system. I might be wrong, but when Windows deletes a file, it just changes the first character to ?
So,
0001.dat becomes ?001.dat
Windows knows not to bother with that, but the camera might not. Formatting is much the same if it's not a full format. I would guess maybe changing the file system or writing over with junk data might work.
Actually, that's partially correct. It wrote over the first character with 0x00 (a null character). Recovery software like _Recuva_ puts a ? there because it doesn't know what the first character _used_ to be.
Oh, the images are stored as 128K files in a FAT12 (DOS) filesystem. The reason they used this is because it is primitive enough that almost anything can read it; Linux and NetBSD PCMCIA support works fine, and even the Psion 5 palmtop has no problem finding the individual *.DAT files on the card.
FAT12 is an interesting limit by itself - a FAT12 filesystem is at most 16M, and thus can hold no more than 127 pictures. It's amusing that you can find 32G cards on Amazon that are advertised as "compatible with" the DJ-1000. SURE they are... if you don't mind the fact that you're wasting 98.4% of the card!
Ah yes. That's the one
That crazy highlight glitch is called blooming. I learned about it in photo school at just about the time that technology finally fixed it. I've never seen it in the wild like this before. Nice!
I kind of dig the amount of text on the back of the camera. It’s like taking photos with a business card.
i've been loving these digicam videos. it's so fascinating even though i remember them from my childhood.
Great video, I've never seen this camera before. The smallest digital camera I remember was one that fit on a keyring that you can buy from Walmart and it worked with Windows XP, but that was around 2007.
Dang, in 97 (And up until about 2005) I just used disposable cameras. Then again, I didn't have a "modern" computer until 2001, and even then all I had was a crummy "Jazz" camera that refused to take pictures without a blaring light in the background. Seriously, it only let you take pictures that were over-exposed. It would go "ERRT!" if you tried to take a picture in normal circumstances. Oddly enough, it made an excellent webcam for using over dial up connections.
Still loved my disposables. Would just keep one in my purse at all times in high school and even a little after.
Thank you for showing a picture from the Mitsubishi Music Hall in Dusseldorf, Germany, my Home City! :D
Wow 15 pictures of 240x320 or 320x512 resolution!!?? on a 2MB cf flash card is not much but it’s not bad, even snes street fighter 2 on snes took that amount of space.
the sound quality of your videos is always fantastic.. i appreciate that!
Just when you thought he ran out of oddware...
More oddware!
Thank you for the video LGR :D wasn't much of a camera person growing up, still have problems being in pictures/smiling even today, but I can take them no problem. Lol.
Thank you for mentioning the Mitsubishi Electric Hall in my hometown Dusseldorf 😊
Clint, I just want to say that your videos are endlessly entertaining and forever fascinating. I appreciate your penchant for alliteration as well :)
I had one of these back in the day. My dad worked at a JVC distribution center in the returns department and they were shipped these by mistake. I was able to get one and it was a great camera.
I love that quality. It's a very certain kind of nostalgia and it makes me happy.
Great video! Never had any experience with these early digital camera's, but I remember reading reviews for them in PC mags back in the day and my thoughts at the time were eew! Looking back now, it seems the only cheap way of getting good quality 'Digital' photos in the mid to late 90's was to use a decent quality film camera, get the pictures developed (oh yeah, one hour photo!) and then scan them on to the PC later. Oh how times have changed! :)
That was so cool man. You should just keep that on you at all times. The pictures look really cool. Please more LGR food videos on your other channel. That sandwich looked so good in your last video. "Num num num, num, num num. Sandvich makes me strong!"
This camera would have been awesome to have as a child in the 90s. I was just given a hand me down vivitar point and click but at least it auto wound the film. Love the video as always Clint!
I have an interest in photography, so I love these videos about the oddball cameras in your collection. I think it might be my second favourite thing on your channel (after LGR thrifts).
Man, I'm only tangentially interested in photography, but these old digital camera videos are always fascinating. It's almost shocking to see the image quality that was good enough back in the 90s. I guess digital developing for 35mm film wasn't all that widespread back then though; aside from a scanner, there weren't many better ways to get your images onto a computer. I worked at a grocery store customer service deck from 1998-2005, and I remember when the photo developing envelopes started pushing the option to get your photos on a CD-ROM alongside your prints. Hardly anyone did it; I'm guessing because anyone who needed to digitize their photos probably already had a digital camera or a scanner.
My first digital camera was a Toshiba PDR-2. It's back was hinged to act a PCMCIA card. It had no screen and was quite compact, basically the size of a PCMCIA card.
Égua da câmera LINDA, irmão! Valeu, Clint, muito bom o vídeo!
Thanks for making my Friday awesome!
6:53 lovely Rx7 FC seems like it needs some love and some better looking rims :3
7 seconds before 7:00, no less! Aren't they original wheels? They look great to me. I have an FB and an FD. If only I had the space and money for an FC... I'd probably get an Esprit instead
just what i needed this morning some more LGR goodness
lets go lgr! love your work. here s hoping you hit 1 MILLION
Love this- more digital camera vids please, sir!
"A some what annoying little thing but absolutely charming & I adore it never the less..." Sounds like the story of my life. 🤔
Really cool & random 90s tech review LGR!
Mitsubishi Electric Halle (multi-purpose hall) from Düsseldorf in an LGR video :)
7:28 that shot would of been perfect if the BB&T building was still there.
I love seeing the odd tourist pull into that one-way sometimes.
Should also take shots of the Innsbruck Mall for some vintage photos.
This camera just looks so cool aesthetically.
o man that alleyway was like the effects on an anti-drug psa commercial from the 90s, i love it
This video is so relaxing and full of nostalgia. Amazing content, as usual. 😁
Clint your recent camera videos have been fascinating :) this camera reminds me of this tiny little point and shoot my dad got back in the very early 2000s the photos were terrible compared to his cannon film camera but he loved that thing. Would fill entire cdrs with random nature shots. Or print out cd labels with photos he took :) i wish i still had that thing around somewhere
Kinda reminds me of our old Casio Exilim EX-S2 "Wearable Card Camera" from the early 2000's. It was such a cool thing back then.
the difference being EX-S2 was actually a great camera producing decent pictures :)
The give aways at the computer show had green sleeves and both laptop and desktop adaptors. Also came with about half a dozen memory cards.
You have such entertaining videos!! Keep up the great work!!
OOOOOooo I'm early to a LGR video!
Great video as always!
LGR: "Things that would have been around in the late 1990s"
*takes selfie*
I love stuff like this!!! An obscure piece of tech, a blip in time... Someone in Mitsubishi Electric thought "We need to get into a niche market...Well if Sanyo can do it... why can't we?". Mitsubishi makes so much electrical tech, I just knew about the Air Conditioner and Semi-Conductor divisions, they have plants around here when you look into them, they make anything electrical.
Wow, 2MB! I have a 32MB MMC card, but have never seen anything smaller than that. Oh all those memories, what a great time it was!
In the late 90's, 2000's, I was a proud owner of a 17" Mitsubishi flatscreen trinitron monitor until it died...
I vaguely remember that camera. I certainly remember that form factor, with that sort of hump with the lens and viewfinder in the middle.
I don't care about old cameras but I still watch these episodes just because Clint gets so excited about them.
That camera might be about the size of the wallet I use.
(Also, I was born in 1997, so it's nice to learn about what existed when I was born. Great video as always, LGR! 👍🏽)