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"Why can't I play a female doom slayer?" Maybe because the doom slayer is an already established main character, it would make 0 sense to make a female version
now that is exactly what you dont realize, this "it would make sense for doom slayer to become a female character" is exactly what they mean, to transform an already established male character into a female character is exactly what they demand and think makes sense we're dealing exactly on this level of BS right now dont mistake what they mean to be logical, dont even think that it should make sense because that is their whole point
I imagine this person wrote the entire article and then the editor looked at it, then looked at the game and told the author "but there are female characters tho" and the author was like "don't matter, we can use that to prove our point" and the editor was like "Dafuq? Oh, well, it's your job that's at stake, pal, not mine"
Tired of people forgetting the definitions of words, feminism never meant you had to criticize a good game for not seeing a female it just meant that your a very independent women. And god forbid a woman has a boyfriend or husband!
This women, the one in the video, she saying a women having a boyfriend or husband is anti feminist She has to be mental or something Most crazy people also act like this
@@joyosumolo4965 barely, I don't care about what some weirdo online says about a game I enjoy. I was asking a genuine question as I thought the original commenter was sayin that
"Any time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo" -Knuckles, Sonic Boom
“Realistically unrealistic.” That is a principle in story telling that for your imaginary world you can set any rules you want no matter how ludicrous, but once you do, you cannot ever break them. Like imagine if Harry Potter pulled out a long rifle and shot Voldemort in the face. Not technologically infeasible for the time period, but breaks the rules established by the introduction of the world.
Well the example of the gun is less breaking of a rule and more an introduction of a useful tool that now requires an explanation everytime it goes unused, and in fact requires retroactive explanation for every fight where it wasn't used. I suppose wizards fight with magic, not technology is the implied rule. But that's one you could very much break as long as you thoroughly explain it's lack of use before. Well not so much in Harry Potter because I think tonally it wouldn't make any sense for Harry to start poppin caps, but the rule in isolation has some flexibility.
0:50 -- ..."and this applies to all of media entertainment: movies, video games, comics, manga, anime, whatever, ..." -- and now I notice that there are no BOOKS in the background.
I love how their argument was, aside from three main characters in the story arc, there are zero women. That’s like me saying; aside from the main characters, there are zero black people in fresh prince of bel air. You can’t just ignore those people just to fit your narrative.
@@ketertube The demons in Doom have nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian interpretation of demons or hell, they're inspired from it for sure but it's clearly not supposed to represent any real world religion. Take your Bible thumping shit somewhere else
@@ketertube if we’re doing the technicalities that demons could be made from husks of LGBTQ+ members, yes, but no demon is consciously part of the community.
Exactly when someone is like this, all they care about is the drama and the hate, so they will continuously fight back just to get a rise out of people. "The game doesn't feature women? It's sexist!" "The game features women? They're attractive looking and wear tight clothes so they're being sexualized" "the game features trans people? They are not the main character where everything revolves around them, so it's transphobic" that's the crap we have to put up with and we can never win no matter how much we try so it's better to ignore these people and shun them away.
Feminist:creates a review on how doom is transphobic Literally all of the doom fan base and their mothers:you're not just wrong, you're stupid What's funny is my mom loves doom
"no women in the game" intro voice over: "am i a joke to you" these femcells will always find a way to make something out to be sexist, its all they look for, even when fact is presented to them if it doesnt suit their views its outright ignored
You can literally hear* (not _here_ as I wrote it) women soldiers in the intro fighting back... And getting killed, like the male soldiers in the intro... And like all of humanity
These LGBT people complain that there are no women or trans people in the game, but they would complain a lot more if there were and they died at the hands of Doom Guy
Imagine seeing one brainrot take and making it a generality for people with only the fact that they don't fit exactly in the norm as a common attribute.
I like how she goes "there are only 3 female characters" when first of all, there's 4, the uac spokes person shows up alot and she's a women and a human, and second there's only like 7 or 8 characters overall in doom eternal
If memory serves, there's only like 15 characters with lines and then the Doom Slayer is the protagonist (I don't count him in the 15 because he speaks 3 times, twice in flashbacks and then the word "no"). Of those 15 characters (minus the slayer), 5 of them are antagonists who end up dead.
the fact that the doom slayer had a pet rabit named daisy is hillarious bcs thats something traditionaly feminine and yet ppl out here calling him some giant pillar of toxic masculinity like bro read the lore
I love how the guy who wrote this article keep bringing up Samus Aran as a "sex object", meanwhile no one even knew Samus was a girl until much later into the franchise.
Well humans are gonna human, someone somewhere would have fantasised about the character even if they didn't know the sex or indeed because they didn't know
So I just want to say: Elaina doesn’t even hold a candle to our favorite Intern when it comes to fangirling over the Doomslayer. She just realizes he is literally the only hope they have of surviving.
My man the intern is the only being to have not betrayed the slayer hell it would be even funnier if it turned out the intern was the wretch cause in a way he was still serving the dark lord just a different version
sEllena ios also kinda annoying. She is the sort of person I think Doomguy would hate. The guy legit does not wanna be worshipped or fucking anything. The guy who says to hos progenitor "No" when he asks him something. Doomguy is a regular dude in many ways who just wants to rip and tear until its done.
@@Badruborg even before his ascension doomguy was always a no nonsense soilder its just he still felt great rage at blatant evil such as when his CO commanded him to fire on civilians so he beat him to death with his bare hands.
@@wilmagregg3131 I don't know if he beat him to death but yah, he did beat him. That was why he was on Mars on security. doomguy in both books and media was someone who lacked the same biases as other people. That is why him beuingb empowered is a big deal because he already has an awesome heart
"Why can't we have a female doom slayer?" For the same reason why we can't have a male Tomb Raider or a male 2B. They are already established characters. Changing their genders/altering their character base doesn't make any sense
“The Kahn Makyr just exist to be killed” Let’s just casually pass over the fact that she actively attempts to control the Icon of Sin to use as a weapon
Also intentionally unleashed hell upon Earth and had billions die for her own personal gain. Yeah let’s just ignore that. She’s the real victim for being killed off by a male 🙄
Yes, let's just ignore the fact she was willing to sacrifice Earth for her own personal gain. Along with countless other worlds, including those that are loyal and worship her.
Interestingly enough according to the lore the Doomslayer's (back then the Doomguy) military trainer was a woman.... so yeah she taught him everything that he knows. So apparently that's sexist too, I guess.
Doom guy is to demons as Thor is to Giants your absolute worst fucking nightmare to find on the battlefield and or meet because you only have a few seconds left
My guy has a legend written about him BY DEMONS. That is how badass Doomguy is. Fucker traumatized an entire generation of demons enough to warn their offspring.
What do they want us to do? Put a woman’s face on the Slayer’s body? Oh wait, they’d say that we’re making an unrealistic woman. WHY CAN’T WE DO ANYTHING WITHOUT BEING YELLED AT?!?!
the stupidest part of this is that we live in a culture where women fight for equal treatment/rights, yet still somehow want special treatment for being a woman
When I found out Samus was a girl and not a guy, I didn’t care cause she was sick as hell in Super Smash Bros. but when I watched the first movie that had Ray-not-Skywalker, I was completely pissed off cause she was a scavenger, but then became one with the force out of no where??
exactly! people need to calm themselves, im a boy and I love tomb raider. I think Lara Croft is badass, idc if she’s a women I just enjoy the game and you really shouldn’t care about the gender role your playing as and just enjoy the game.
literally it's a fictional world nothing to do with reality a character could be 8 year old little girl who's killing and butchering fully grown masculine man as far it is fun and entertaining it doesn't matter so stop bitching around and have some fun.
I actually just finished a replay of Ion Fury, another great game if you love the retro shooter genre, and featuring a female protagonist. This author has zero clue as to what they are talking about
@@gibsonananias3076 but by changing what already exists, they create a new society. It all depends how you look at it. Feminists are ok people, some are stupid, ignorant and loud. Much like any other person is in their respective "category". Not need to call all feminists evil
@@Adamant1993 Nobody is "evil". They just can't understand reason and their logic is different, maybe because of where they grew up with/with who or what they are used to. They are not doing this from "haha you woman/man you suck I hope I made your day worse because I can!!11!1!!111 lmaolmao lolololol" Like... people like that only exist in movies (I hope).
You know boiled down this article is written in a way that makes the author seem upset that you can't angrily climb obstacles and see smaller more feminine forearms. Doom guy is purely a self-insert. If the gender of your character slaying demons really matters that much to you just fucking pretend Doom guy is Doom Gal
"If the gender of your character slaying demons really matters that much to you just fucking pretend Doom guy is Doom Gal" And I mean this as respectfully as I can manage, that sounds like the entire trans-discussion anyway. So you're surely not wrong (love your profile pic btw, what an adorable cute little uberwarlocking danger-dog) And JUST in case it's not clear (I've had a rough day online today) I'm totally agreeing with you, just was struck by how... odd things are nowadays.
I mean the developers have stated it in the wiki that doomslayer is supposed to be the player themselves. "The only thing they fear is you." So just imagine yourself behind that armor, going around killing shit. That's how the game is supposed to be played anyway.
"Doom is Excluding us!" At what point exactly did the start of the game say "Are you a woman or trans? Yes|No" As far as my memory of playing doom goes, doom is about big man in a suit of armour with a shotgun and chainsaw who really hates demons and that's all it ever needs to be Furthermore, about the Doomslayer being female. I feel like said fake feminists like the one from this video would have a problem with a woman ripping apart demons with her bare hands and punching the hell (Pun intended) out of everything she sees. People annoy me sometimes Thank you
Female doom slayer would take an incredible amount of effort to introduce to the canon as well. Aside from needing a load of programming and animating and such that would come from adding a new character, you can't just throw some random woman who's entirely capable of what doomguy is into the story and call it a day. That's what star wars did.
@@329link It would still be greasy but I could see an easy shoehorn being "you're playing in a different timeline that has everything the same but DOOMGUY is a girl wOoOoO". Shitty writing but hey, at least it would somewhat make sense. Also, agree about adding a character. Way more work.
There's no need to introduce Doomgirl at all. Remember Crash from Quake 3? Even if somewhat non-canon, it was clearly stated that she was Slayer's tactics and combat instructor. She TAUGHT this monster of a man the 101 of slaughter. Take a moment for this lil bit of info to sink in.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” The quote is attributed to JRR Tolkien. This says it all.
I fucking love how we're all here defending our Goodest Boy from our childhoods slaying demons indiscriminately and one of the best comments here has an icon of Starlight Glimmer. lol We know who we are. We absolutely fucking know who we are, and we're here to support the Slayer.
I wanna see some twitter mf try to complain about ultrakill, we have a robot, it shoots demons, and just because people call it “he” doesn’t change the fact that he’s quite literally a robot who runs on blood
Fun fact: there’s a documented case that a lot of people thought that Samus was a man until the end of one of the GBA games when it was first revealed that she was a woman. It didn’t stop people from loving her as a character. Checkmate, review author.
I mean… screw an angel with an shotgun, lets prove the “god given” right of the American second amendment! GIVE JESUS AN AK-47 *this is a joke i swear*
Fr. Like do you want him to kill cross dressing demons or something? Then the issue would be even worse lmao. People just wanna bitch. They could make something themselves but they won’t
It's not *age old* at all. It's last decade insanity. And why the F do we need rEpReSeNtAtIoN? Shall we print books also now with keeping the story the same, but flipping geners? *Conana the barbariana* Self-centered insane bullshit. Nothing more.
@@Memerproductions especially because the author was first pissed because the genders werent equally shown, yet, if we made the doomguy a girl that would mean we would have the exact same problem and just turned it 180 degrees. How is that the solution?!
There is around 12 in the main game (except from doomguy and hayden) and 8ish in ancient gods (still excluding doomguy but including intern) the ones in the main game are on the Mars and arc/uac facility levels and if you count the sentinel soilders then there are a lot more but I don't think you ever see them without full armour
Make "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League". That was a game that ticked pretty much all of the DEI moron brigade's boxes and we see exactly where that got them.
My English teacher tried to "teach" us about things like this today, when he asked what everyone was thinking (like he usually does) everyone except one person said to his face "that was stupid" "this was a waste of my time" and "dude, they are videogames" Was kinda funny to watch him melt away after that 😂
I always find it funny, that arguments like this are a lose-lose situation: 1) Make a dumb game about killing demons 2a) Make the protagonist a buff dude 2b) Make the protagonist a slim girl (refering to Samus) scenario a - caters to men, because no women. manly nudity scenario b - caters to men, because they can look at a woman all in all it's an FPS, you see hands mostly, and they are in power armor. We all know the most lusted-for object in the game is the supershotgun. I hope not a lot of people have the same opinion as the article author, and we can all equally enjoy fun games where u slam demons into oblivion.
@@Arsaja that is why I said it there, because it’s nonsense - action movies/Games with buff guys a’la Schwarzenneger is usually the posterchild for „Dumb movies for Dumb men, toxic masculinity”.
Can you imagine a woman (Dr Elena's recordings) working for the Committee as a scientist in order to think of "dirty" fantasies with the main character on the verge of destroying humanity? What? Elena is a scientist who studied blood samples of the main character and tried to find out if he is a threat to humanity. She believed in him not because he is a cool pumped-up man, but because he is the only hope for saving people. This is completely understandable. What kind of sexism are these posts talking about?? Nah, the dude who wrote this post probably hasn't played this game. Just took something out of context.
They don't know what they want so their "opinion" isn't all that helpful. Game devs really should just let them scream and cry into the air, they will get over it.
This is literally that one clip of Richard Watterson reviewing the calculator app, and saying “there aren’t any female characters, but I guess there aren’t any male characters either so it’s alright.”
It's actually impressive how a game with a silent protagonist that indiscriminately kills literally demons from hell can be viewed through an irl political lens.
@@thatonewitch The politics come from angry third wave feminists who play the game and insist that games like that only fuel the quote "toxic masculinity" paradigm. The only reason I put toxic masculinity in quotes is because no one can clearly define what toxic masculinity is except for me it seems. I know that comes across as rather arrogant, but I have some ideas. So yeah there's no actual politics in the video game. Just fucking Karen's wanting to put politics into the game. Goes along with the whole video games. Make you violent type of mentality. And on that note I'd say not having a violent ass video game to let my anger out on would make me pretty fucking violent.
The article about addressing sexism in a video game: we can’t be using stereo types as a way to create a character. Also them: this video game is only made for men because it has gore, demons, and is based around the use of guns. Idk maaan… sounds like a stereotype
@@IDontDoDrumCovers exactly, then get defensive. Straight people bringing up gender stereotypes around them is like calling a black person the n-word with a hard r.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but there will always be something to offend a feminist." - Peter Lloyd You can't argue with people who write these articles because they're so brainwashed by their own bs that they believe whatever they say is automatically correct.
in a few months you'll be a nazi! have fun going down the alt right pipeline because of videos that focus in on 0.00001% of the population giving you confirmation bias about your opinion of feminists
I love how this people seem to think that women or trans people won't be able to enjoy a game just because the main character (in a first person perspective game) isn't a woman or trans. Like, I cannot enjoy Kirby because I am not a pink round monster that absorbs the power of everything it eats. I get it's nice to feel represented in a piece of Media, but it doesn't have to be in every piece of art. Specially when it doesn't try to be realistic. Following this logic Zootopia is racist because there is no black people in it.
Furthermore, if you can't identify with a character that doesn't perfectly match your sex/race/whatever, doesn't that make YOU sexist/racist/whateverist?
I want an Allen Ripley Alien movie, and all the new star wars movies have to be reshot with alternate scenes so that there is a male main character called Ray kappa
If the doomslayer would be a plus size transgender queen with coloured hair, tattoos and piercings in a rainbow armour and/or the demons had boobs.. i bet there would be an outrage as well.
@@dobeikwan3684 "my brother, sister, gay, lesbian, bi, trans, mantowoman, womantoman, queer, genderfluid", and so on (there is countless of this shit this times) was just too long... and even if he would get all of them in a single comment, they would blame him because of the order xD @all btw. i am ready ;) roast me (i just don't give a shit xD) and btw. i have nothing against anyones sexuality, to be honest... but i hate fucking trolls... and that is, what they are doing... they are not doing it for the rights and gender equality... they are doing it just for trolling... i will never understand, why everyone seems to lend them an ear
11:39 when she says "id Software went out of their way to not include a female playable character" that is just ludicrous. Any addition to the game takes MORE work, not less, including but not limited to; modeling, texturing, and rigging another playermodel, as well as either doing a whole new set of animations or manually offsetting the original animations to fit a different shaped skeleton, you need to add a menu to be able to select the player's gender, and you need to playtest the game through gameplay and cutscenes to make sure it looks right and everything lines up (the player's feet properly collide with the ground, hands line up with the handles on sentinel batteries, etc). I mean sure I wouldn't have minded Doomgirl as a playable character, but they definitely did NOT go out of their way not to include the option.
I noticed as well that the first section of the 'review' concluded with "they are sexist against women because they didn't include a female protagonist option!" But then the author turned around and complained that not including that option is ALSO sexist against Trans people. If you want them to cater to both women and trans as genders, then wouldn't the solution be more complex than 'add female protagonist'? Seems like the review author is more sexist than id Software if they refuse to acknowledge that trans people are different from both men and women and therefore require a different solution to this 'problem'. I get that the Doomslayer is canonically male, but if it bothers you that much, can't you just imagine it's actually a very muscular woman like Red Sonya whose voice has been damaged from heavy chain smoking like Patty and Selma? Sounds like the reviewer is ASSUMING gender based on what they've seen and been told about a character. Did they ever stop to ASK the Doomslayer what pronouns it prefers? If the Doomslayer prefers he/him pronouns, isn't it sexist to complain that he doesn't want to be referred to as trans or female?
Also, given the direction they went with the story, _not_ having it be Doomguy would be very weird - I mean, go back to 1993 and look at the bottom of the screen, if you would.
@@anhilliator1 Still, I wouldn't have objected to a little toggle that makes the character portrait into a woman, I was just arguing with the conjecture that "intentionally making this game less inclusive cost id more time" which is the opposite of the truth.
@@anhilliator1 Indeed. This isn't some random person pulled out of a hat. This is the same person from all the way back in the first game of the series. It would be like making a new Tomb Raider, supposedly part of the series, but with Lionel Croft as the protagonist.
I am a 37 year old woman and I have to say that I NEVER even thought about things like that. You are in ego perspective most of the time. I mean you are ripping demons apart while theres heavy metal blasting. Thats all I care for. Oh and story... of course.
@@johnwalker3602 One of the best thing about Doom 2016 is that there is a story going on and the Slayer doesn't give a shit. Smashing consoles during conversations and flipping off the people talking at him.
So... these "feminists" (and I put massive Icon of Sin sized quotemarks around that word because they're very clearly NOT feminists and just do it for points) think that the main character should still be an absolute psychopath who can't even communicate with other humans anymore from being traumatized to SHEER INSANITY... but also female. So... Crash doesn't exist now? You know, the lady who TAUGHT Doom Guy how to rip and tear EVEN BETTER?
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 She's from the Quake games. Doomguy made a cameo in it as a playable character and they added in the Quake lore that she taught him the ropes of how the Quake arena games worked as well as that they dated for a while.
No wonder DOOM is so successful, it doesn't care about Society's opinions. And I'm glad it doesn't. Stupid shit like this ruins video games and most definitely movies nowadays.
One of the reasons I love the magazines in Doomslayer's room. They even added a joke at cancel cultures expense. "Why Doomslayer owes the Mortality challenged community an apology" I laughed my ass off when I saw that for the first time lol
Everyone seems to forget that we already have a Doom Girl, her name is Crash and according to the lore she was the one who trained Doom Guy and taught him everything. Yeah, she only appeared in Quake 3 but she does exist.
@@kickrobotsintheballs5840 No, he's a clone of that universe's equivalent of...both God and the Devil. He wasn't even born (unlike the Blazkowicz Doomguy from classic Doom).
The way the author of that article wrote that "they go out of their way not to make a female protagonist" seriously says that the author doesn't play games or just doesn't have enough brain cells to understand that DOOM is a game where there was, is and will be only a male protagonist (that is just my opinion)
You know what i find funny, is that if id wanted they could make a spin off game focusing on your average marines where the Protagonist could be female and a group of marines trying to survive the apocalypse lol. The mainline games yes the protagonist will nd always be doom guy but its no likea female protagonist couldn't be the highlight. She just needs to be in a spin off game and not be portrayed as the powerful god the doom slayer is but your Normal marine youd see in the games
I wish people would stop complaining on my behalf. I'm a woman. I've been playing Doom since I was a girl. I've never once felt excluded from the community or that the game was sexist. In fact how do you label a game sexist if it has no women in the game? You can't misrepresent or sexualise women if they're not included, surely? If not having a woman in the game is an issue, don't play it. Go play Bayonetta or Ion Fury. I wish modern media was less obsessed with genitals. It's creepy. Let me kill swathes of demons in peace. *Props to Olivia Pierce and Khan Maykr for being so unsexy I didn't even think of them.
Even funnier that the Khan Maykr, the main villain for the base game was a women and they'd still say it's sexist. Lord I despise those folks that conjure crap from nothing.
@@Jules279 my mistake, I forgot about the Khan Maykr and Olivia Pierce, both incredible badasses in their own right. I forgot about them because I was trying to think of sexy objectified women in the game... Things they're very obviously not. These people are lunatics if I'm honest. I couldn't imagine spending all that time thinking about other people's genitals and then calling everyone else a bigot and a pervert. They don't want equality, they want control.
@@JoanWhack 100% true. I can think of very few franchises that are as equal as Doom. Most likely they are triggered because Doom is a series about plowing through whatever obstacles life puts up and standing up to darkness. All things they're incapable of doing.
Fun fact, the new age doomgames were supposed have genderless protagonists The game has always been about the actions you cause, not the person you are But you can never kill doomguy he is eternal
Plus it would be kinda hard to say genderless because the armor is pure male no female designs at all though seeing a female doom slayer wouldn’t be bad now would they be muscle or thin but stronger than your average demon
doomguy:im eternal, and now im gonna kill you the guy who created him, the one who doom guy is gonna kill: we are tethered idiot doomguy: nooooo this is the doom eternal dlc in a nutshell
Shoehorning diversity for the pure sake of it never works, especially in a game like Doom because where would you put all these minorities? The only interaction the Doom Slayer has with normal humans is ignoring everyone around him unless they have or can do something he needs. Even if someone is in his way, he just pushes them aside without looking at them and continues along his merry way.
@@AJ-po6up I'm trans myself, and I got annoyed too. People should stop accusing things of being something-phobic unless it specifically aims at offending someone. It doesn't help the problem, it just makes it worse. 🙄
Somewhere in the doom world some girls are actually doing this, the dude is the ultimate chad that rips demons 5 times taller than him apart like me eating chocolate
"I don't fap to Bayonetta, I'm not a degenarate!" Nervous breathing: "Y-Yeah! M-Me neither..." Also, people love to complicate what's simple just to get attention... As you said, it's a game about killing demons, let it be that! Also, when she says: "The problem is that it is a game designed for men!" I thought: Why is that a problem? Really... Can't we have games that are designed to pander to the male audence? If it was a game designed to pander to the female audience nobody would say a thing...
@Random Platypus with Internet Exactly! Either it's assuming that either because the main character is a man, the entire series is made specifically for men, or because it's about ruthless carnage upon demon kind that it's made specifically for men...both of which are just...wrong
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Why do publications, insist on giving these "jurnolists" (activists) a platform, to spew their ass-backwards radicalized feminist rhetoric?
WTF why? were you being too fricking based perhaps?
"Why can't I play a female doom slayer?"
Maybe because the doom slayer is an already established main character, it would make 0 sense to make a female version
Like if they made A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back with Luke, then for Return of The Jedi, turned him into Lucy
now that is exactly what you dont realize, this "it would make sense for doom slayer to become a female character" is exactly what they mean, to transform an already established male character into a female character is exactly what they demand and think makes sense
we're dealing exactly on this level of BS right now
dont mistake what they mean to be logical, dont even think that it should make sense
because that is their whole point
Well, you could have a spin off? Doomguy's Eve to the Adam?
Like a "meanwhile, on the other side of hell."
@@ricknerinfantry a spinoff with a female protagonist sounds kinda cool, as long as it's done correctly and doesn't exist solely for inclusivity
Like they tried (and failed) to do with ghostbusters
Female Demons: “You wouldn’t hit a girl would you?”
DOOM guy: “The hammer of justice is unisex.”
I understood that reference
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It's like Deadpool said: is it more sexist to kill a girl or NOT kill a girl?
He would do a little more than "hit"
@@hemeshRC I do think that Doom guy is actually Asexual he doesn't feel arouse around man or woman
"If you ignore the female characters there are no female characters."
Best argument ever.
IQ INFINITE
''i hate half life because it has no guns, if you ignore the guns, there are no guns''
"Demons die if they are killed."
@@IDESTROYER236 you run out of oxigen if you don't breath
I imagine this person wrote the entire article and then the editor looked at it, then looked at the game and told the author "but there are female characters tho" and the author was like "don't matter, we can use that to prove our point" and the editor was like "Dafuq? Oh, well, it's your job that's at stake, pal, not mine"
"stop watching oversexualized Netflix shows" this is the most important part of this video. It's a general advise to everyone.
Fr
"Remember, demon can be an offensive term. Refer to them as mortally challenged."
Given how things are moving that might be a real announcement soon
We'd probably get the term 'morally challenged' first tho
(no I didn't misspell that)
can i refer to them as lead magnets?
@@unseenreaper2251 no. Because it's an inaccurate term. They're also great targets for plasma rounds! :)
@@anidiot192 lol true
Funny enough, the doom lore is that the slayer became the slayer out of vengeance for his fallen pet rabbit daisy, if you don't believe me look it up
Yeah exactly and that’s not sexist at all so people are dumb
Ok and?
And his wife and child but people seem to forget this...
@@donaldjohnson7893 i was about to make a similar comment
@@donaldjohnson7893 who carres about a wife the bunny is much worse
"Why can't I play with a female Doom Slayer?"
Well, why can't I play with a male Bayonetta?
I see where you went with this but this is real hard to visualize
Men have hairy bodies too- what's your problem?!
@@mr.mcnerdo what?
So, Devil May Cry / Dante? :P
Oh god thatd be..... thatd be horrifying honestly given that her hair is her clothes. Dudes beard just becomes his loin cloth or something. Blech
Tired of people forgetting the definitions of words, feminism never meant you had to criticize a good game for not seeing a female it just meant that your a very independent women.
And god forbid a woman has a boyfriend or husband!
Who forbid a woman having a bf or husband 💀
This women, the one in the video, she saying a women having a boyfriend or husband is anti feminist
She has to be mental or something
Most crazy people also act like this
@@rileymcdaniel5271the gaming journalist. Did you watch the video?
@@joyosumolo4965 barely, I don't care about what some weirdo online says about a game I enjoy. I was asking a genuine question as I thought the original commenter was sayin that
@@rileymcdaniel5271 if you don’t care then why bother commenting.
"Any time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo" -Knuckles, Sonic Boom
Boom Knuckles is based af
Boom knuckles was the only good thing from the sonic boom era, this is proof
@@TheWackyWorkbench eggman was also funny
@@TheWackyWorkbench to be honest boom was pretty good if you don't take it seriously, and its made to be that way
Gender equality is a fools errand since the genders are not equal and cannot be without destroying them both
Imagine seeing a game where you pull demons apart and think "this is sexist"
Because those demons are women 💀
no female demons!11!!11!!!1!!!
@@watchmychannelorelse I thought the whiplash were females
@@donnovanl8952 demons aren't male nor female, they are demons
@@tjk-goix8513 good point
“Realistically unrealistic.” That is a principle in story telling that for your imaginary world you can set any rules you want no matter how ludicrous, but once you do, you cannot ever break them. Like imagine if Harry Potter pulled out a long rifle and shot Voldemort in the face. Not technologically infeasible for the time period, but breaks the rules established by the introduction of the world.
What rules would Harry break if he shot Voldemort with a rifle?
@@Royal_Sniper gun laws in Britain
@@thedrunkenslayer3348 makes sense
Well the example of the gun is less breaking of a rule and more an introduction of a useful tool that now requires an explanation everytime it goes unused, and in fact requires retroactive explanation for every fight where it wasn't used. I suppose wizards fight with magic, not technology is the implied rule. But that's one you could very much break as long as you thoroughly explain it's lack of use before. Well not so much in Harry Potter because I think tonally it wouldn't make any sense for Harry to start poppin caps, but the rule in isolation has some flexibility.
It would have been cool if they ever adressed guns in some way in the franchise, or even used one in a scene, that would have been interesting
0:50 -- ..."and this applies to all of media entertainment: movies, video games, comics, manga, anime, whatever, ..." -- and now I notice that there are no BOOKS in the background.
Doomguy is not transphobic, He kills everyone equally.
THAT, is true.
I love this Comment.
Exactly lol
And by everyone, you mean demons.
@@FellowManofAggieland yes problibly
I love when journalists are triggered. Free laughs for everyone.
For real 😆
@Mahbod Karamoozian yep
@Mahbod Karamoozian Maybe not, it just means it has a white male protagonist.
@Mahbod Karamoozian and they are the ones who complain about racism
i didnt even know the whiplash was a woman, why do demons have genders lol
Game: Exists literally to kill demons
Feminists: "Oh no! Patriarchy!"
This is a specific breed of “feminists”. They give the rest of us a bad name. I apologize on the behalf of feminism as a whole.
@@definitelynotdistracted you are forgiven my child.
@@definitelynotdistracted they should not be called "feminists" they need another name, suggestions?
@@awoel banshees
@@heistingcrusader_ad3223 banshee is a cool name though
why elsa wasnt a 6'5 buffed black dude instead of a privileged princess.
Ok but imagine if she WAS a bigg buff black dude, that would be hilarious
@funny-spaghetti-skeletonimagine the rock plays elsa in the live action version
@@wasp795 nah i'd prefer Idris Elba
Saying Doom is discriminatory towards you is like admitting that you are a hell spawn.
Logic would dictate that. Funny how that works.... lololol
Well, that person is kind of a hellspawn...so it makes sense lmao.
@@ericm5315
kind of?
I thought that the hell spawn wrote that article to try and make people mad at them so they won’t play it. I don’t think it works.
thats antisemitic.
I love how their argument was, aside from three main characters in the story arc, there are zero women. That’s like me saying; aside from the main characters, there are zero black people in fresh prince of bel air. You can’t just ignore those people just to fit your narrative.
Exactly
It’s almost like this article fell into the straw man fallacy
Other than all the women, there were no women!!1!!11one
But they do
We all know it’s a woman
“DOOM is transphobic and sexist”
It’s literally a game where you kill demons, and all the human harm DOOM Guy does is against men. How is that sexist.
With exception to Olivia Pierce. and the Kahn Maykr.
@@ketertube The demons in Doom have nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian interpretation of demons or hell, they're inspired from it for sure but it's clearly not supposed to represent any real world religion. Take your Bible thumping shit somewhere else
@@JustinLaFleur1990 Khan Mykr wasn’t human, and DOOM Guy never physically damaged Olivia, unless we considering her as the spider mastermind
@@ketertube if we’re doing the technicalities that demons could be made from husks of LGBTQ+ members, yes, but no demon is consciously part of the community.
@@Swagmaster1102 still both female. Ergo he still killed em, but they both fucking deserved it.
even people from medieval times would agree if you told them killing demons is badass
As a wise man once said, "It is hard to win an argument against a smart person, but it is impossible to win against an idiot."
lol Similar one I like to use "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." :D
Exactly when someone is like this, all they care about is the drama and the hate, so they will continuously fight back just to get a rise out of people. "The game doesn't feature women? It's sexist!" "The game features women? They're attractive looking and wear tight clothes so they're being sexualized" "the game features trans people? They are not the main character where everything revolves around them, so it's transphobic" that's the crap we have to put up with and we can never win no matter how much we try so it's better to ignore these people and shun them away.
You deserve a metal for this piece of beautiful information.
That's not the exact quote, but I digress.
amen
"Doom Eternal is sexist and transphobic"
Are you calling women and trans people demons?
*Because demons are the only thing Doom discriminates*
Yes
UM EXCUSE ME THEY PREFER THE TERM MORTALLY CHALLENGED! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
@@zackattack32 That was such a middle finger line
I love it
Feminist:creates a review on how doom is transphobic
Literally all of the doom fan base and their mothers:you're not just wrong, you're stupid
What's funny is my mom loves doom
You just made the ultimate checkmate
"no women in the game"
intro voice over: "am i a joke to you"
these femcells will always find a way to make something out to be sexist, its all they look for, even when fact is presented to them if it doesnt suit their views its outright ignored
Also Olivia pierce was in doom 2016 which is related to doom eternal and there are female demons.
@@HighGuarder the slayer believes in equal rights
This is Dr.Elena Richardson, log entry 002 - subject analysis of Doom Slayer. January 24th, 2163...
Khan mayker is a women, the snake demons are women according to the lore description so there is that
The spoke person in most of the levels
*Claps hands*
"Man. I love video games"
And that's where this guy got my subscription.
It's okay to be a man, It's okay to be a women, it's okay to be a doom slayer. But it's never okay to be a Game Journalist.
Truer words have never been spoken
This assumes every single game journalist does their job poorly. Maybe it's never okay to be poor at your job?
Ow you hurt me
what if true gamers such as midnight become game journalists so then we will have true gamers reviewing games?
I think Jason Shreier does a good job, but really that seems to be the extent that I have seen
''It's a game about a guy killing demons with Big Fucking Guns'', that's it. You described the whole Doom series in a short phrase.
@Random Platypus with Internet except it's ghost, he know it can't be killed, again
@@normal8999 not with that attitude
@@Zzzubie what attitude?
@@normal8999 The attitude of a non doomguy.
@@fleetingfondmemoriez2898 I know, im sorry, I shall train again
"all women are damsels in this game" have they forgotten about the fact it's a planetary invasion meaning all people would be in a tough situation
And Kahn Maykr casually being The Fathers righthand woman
You can literally hear* (not _here_ as I wrote it) women soldiers in the intro fighting back... And getting killed, like the male soldiers in the intro... And like all of humanity
Women these days 😪
When It comes to doom everyone is a damsel in distress EXCEPT for the Doom Slayer lmao
"help me doom guy your my only hope" says a fat white dude.... AHHHH IM MEAN DAMSEL IN DISTRESS lol🤣🤣🤣
These LGBT people complain that there are no women or trans people in the game, but they would complain a lot more if there were and they died at the hands of Doom Guy
Imagine seeing one brainrot take and making it a generality for people with only the fact that they don't fit exactly in the norm as a common attribute.
Well technically "summoner" is a female right? good thing she did not notice. cz this female imp summons males like summoning harem members.
Doomguy is trans he just passes so well nobody knows
@@zeeveestudios🧢
@@Tremor90 I’m trans and a LGBT person and I play DOOM
"DOOM is holesome its about killing demons, that's it"
Quote of the year
Hole-some? 😳
@@ShareeBon hole in some demons
@@kvantassle83 you sir have just made my day.
@@kvantassle83 but seriously those demons took some real PUNishment.
@@mrlime9526 thank you
A phobia is an irrational fear.
Doomguy feels no fear.
Doomguy IS the fear
The only thing they fear is you.
A song in DOOM.
Doomguy doesn't fear demons demons fear doomguy
@@maxtastic01 that is literally cannon btw
@@aidenyorke2132 I know
I like how she goes "there are only 3 female characters" when first of all, there's 4, the uac spokes person shows up alot and she's a women and a human, and second there's only like 7 or 8 characters overall in doom eternal
So exactly 50%
4 girls
4 guys
True gender equality
he killed like 99.9% of the characters so yeah, i’d that’s accurate
If memory serves, there's only like 15 characters with lines and then the Doom Slayer is the protagonist (I don't count him in the 15 because he speaks 3 times, twice in flashbacks and then the word "no"). Of those 15 characters (minus the slayer), 5 of them are antagonists who end up dead.
@@clodolcmidnights837 Unless, Feminists dont care about equality.
They care about them being BETTER. So this entire feminism thing is fucked anyway!
1:52 HE'S DRINKING "guacamole game cart 9000" TGERUSSIANBADGER'S FLAVOUR!!!
MY FUCKIN GUY!!!
😮HE IS!!!
Yeahhhhhh!!!!
Factual
Yeah
"Remember 'demon' can be an offensive term. Refer to them as 'mortally challenged'"
Is what I thought when I saw the title
Same.
Love it.
Me to
In doom eternal I don’t remember the mission but a voice says “all mortally challenged personnel please evacuate” i believe
wasn't that implemented cause some fools got upset at the DEMONS AND POSSESSED being called DEMONS AND POSSESSED?
"Why can't I play as a female Doom Slayer?"
Well why can't I play as a male Tomb Raider?
True
Laro Croft confirmed
That would be Nathan Drake
@@Shahaaimhe means if he could play the same game
@@Shahaaim Not the point lol
female demons: “you wouldnt hit a girl, would you???”
doomguy: “My guns are rated E for Everyone”
Nice
E
You mean D for demons only
@@lennonnavarra9555 e for everyone in h e l l
We all know what happens to female demons in Hdoom 👀
the fact that the doom slayer had a pet rabit named daisy is hillarious bcs thats something traditionaly feminine and yet ppl out here calling him some giant pillar of toxic masculinity like bro read the lore
I love how the guy who wrote this article keep bringing up Samus Aran as a "sex object", meanwhile no one even knew Samus was a girl until much later into the franchise.
Suitless Samus
Allow me to introduce myself
Well humans are gonna human, someone somewhere would have fantasised about the character even if they didn't know the sex or indeed because they didn't know
Bro Samus is a girl?!??!?!?
I mean, there was an easter egg in the first game, but you had to literallh speedrun it.
If you beat the original nes game fast enough Samus would appear in a bikini in the credits.
So I just want to say: Elaina doesn’t even hold a candle to our favorite Intern when it comes to fangirling over the Doomslayer. She just realizes he is literally the only hope they have of surviving.
(Elena)
My man the intern is the only being to have not betrayed the slayer hell it would be even funnier if it turned out the intern was the wretch cause in a way he was still serving the dark lord just a different version
sEllena ios also kinda annoying. She is the sort of person I think Doomguy would hate. The guy legit does not wanna be worshipped or fucking anything. The guy who says to hos progenitor "No" when he asks him something. Doomguy is a regular dude in many ways who just wants to rip and tear until its done.
@@Badruborg even before his ascension doomguy was always a no nonsense soilder its just he still felt great rage at blatant evil such as when his CO commanded him to fire on civilians so he beat him to death with his bare hands.
@@wilmagregg3131 I don't know if he beat him to death but yah, he did beat him. That was why he was on Mars on security. doomguy in both books and media was someone who lacked the same biases as other people. That is why him beuingb empowered is a big deal because he already has an awesome heart
"I would never lay a hand on a woman, that's why i have my shotgun with me"
-DoomGuy
Way to Kung Fu Hustle it there, buddy.
"MOVE OUT THE WAY WOMAN."
*angry shotgun firing*
"How sad, she had a nice cousin and a great sister as a wife."
-Doomslayer
No context needed
@@Man_AslumeHEAVY LOAD COMIN' THROUGH
"Why can't we have a female doom slayer?"
For the same reason why we can't have a male Tomb Raider or a male 2B. They are already established characters. Changing their genders/altering their character base doesn't make any sense
"Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but there will always be something to
offend a feminist."
- a genius
Ah yes from my favourite philosopher Peter Lloyd
wises person ever.
Hell yeah it is true
I've seen it... she got mad 😂
@@Loved_Carcass And in the process proved his point XD the look on his face!!
“The Kahn Makyr just exist to be killed”
Let’s just casually pass over the fact that she actively attempts to control the Icon of Sin to use as a weapon
Also intentionally unleashed hell upon Earth and had billions die for her own personal gain. Yeah let’s just ignore that. She’s the real victim for being killed off by a male 🙄
Or the fact that she tried to sacrifice earth for argent energy. And has sacrificed many other worlds prior to that.
lol that point made no sense likeevery demon in the game was made to be killed its a game where u kill demons
Yes, let's just ignore the fact she was willing to sacrifice Earth for her own personal gain. Along with countless other worlds, including those that are loyal and worship her.
Most gaming journalists probably don't get to that point in the game. Let's be real here lol
Interestingly enough according to the lore the Doomslayer's (back then the Doomguy) military trainer was a woman.... so yeah she taught him everything that he knows. So apparently that's sexist too, I guess.
As if the person who wrote this article would look up anything that would contradict their opinion.
Sigma woman
@@X4nd5r What's the female equivalent of a chad?
@@DemiRurge giga stacy
The boss from mgs3 vibes
0:55 You're looking for 'self-consistent'. Fictional, but doesn't violate its' own rules.
Doomguy isn't transphobic, he fears no one. He has no phobias
Legendary comment 😂
He is the phobia
He can’t have PTSD because he is the traumatic event
Doom guy is to demons as Thor is to Giants your absolute worst fucking nightmare to find on the battlefield and or meet because you only have a few seconds left
My guy has a legend written about him BY DEMONS. That is how badass Doomguy is. Fucker traumatized an entire generation of demons enough to warn their offspring.
Makes a male main character: "You're sexist"
Makes a female main character: "You're sexualizing women"
We can't win
Have a main character that doesnt have a gender.
Oh wait, then they'd call us sexist to all genders.
fuck.
What do they want us to do? Put a woman’s face on the Slayer’s body? Oh wait, they’d say that we’re making an unrealistic woman. WHY CAN’T WE DO ANYTHING WITHOUT BEING YELLED AT?!?!
@@legend_of_ozzy2525 we should do what the doom slayer does rip and tear the feminist and Karen’s
Its impossible to win against idiots
@@Bananakingchad Only the toxic feminists that want all men dead along with the Karens, and I could get behind that
Woman cultists:" you wouldn't hit a woman would you!?"
DoomSlayer: * ANGER IS ANGER *
*gunshots*?
He is no transphobic, male and female, anything beyond is thrown in a trash can (he did it)
Duty is Duty
Mission is Mission
the stupidest part of this is that we live in a culture where women fight for equal treatment/rights, yet still somehow want special treatment for being a woman
the correct response is "this hand treats everyone equally" and is generally responded to with "0_0 oh shi......" gurgle gurgle gurgle
When I found out Samus was a girl and not a guy, I didn’t care cause she was sick as hell in Super Smash Bros. but when I watched the first movie that had Ray-not-Skywalker, I was completely pissed off cause she was a scavenger, but then became one with the force out of no where??
As a girl I can say that I literally don’t care if I play as a male or a female. I have this game and it is so much fun to play. That’s all I need.
exactly! people need to calm themselves, im a boy and I love tomb raider. I think Lara Croft is badass, idc if she’s a women I just enjoy the game and you really shouldn’t care about the gender role your playing as and just enjoy the game.
literally it's a fictional world nothing to do with reality a character could be 8 year old little girl who's killing and butchering fully grown masculine man as far it is fun and entertaining it doesn't matter so stop bitching around and have some fun.
I actually just finished a replay of Ion Fury, another great game if you love the retro shooter genre, and featuring a female protagonist. This author has zero clue as to what they are talking about
well that work other side as well. when i played first tomb raider it didn't matter Lara was a woman. good game is a good game. period
same lmao
im male and still games like celetse lol
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made". J.R.R. Tolkien.
Bro you really calling feminists "evil". That's overdramatic like holy shit
@@pengo2418 instead of changing what already exists, they should create their own things, that's all.
@@gibsonananias3076 but by changing what already exists, they create a new society. It all depends how you look at it.
Feminists are ok people, some are stupid, ignorant and loud. Much like any other person is in their respective "category". Not need to call all feminists evil
@@Nitsu_ If sexist men are evil, than sexist women are equally as evil. Suggesting otherwise is just stupid
@@Adamant1993 Nobody is "evil". They just can't understand reason and their logic is different, maybe because of where they grew up with/with who or what they are used to.
They are not doing this from "haha you woman/man you suck I hope I made your day worse because I can!!11!1!!111 lmaolmao lolololol"
Like... people like that only exist in movies (I hope).
You know boiled down this article is written in a way that makes the author seem upset that you can't angrily climb obstacles and see smaller more feminine forearms. Doom guy is purely a self-insert. If the gender of your character slaying demons really matters that much to you just fucking pretend Doom guy is Doom Gal
Better yet, mods
"If the gender of your character slaying demons really matters that much to you just fucking pretend Doom guy is Doom Gal"
And I mean this as respectfully as I can manage, that sounds like the entire trans-discussion anyway.
So you're surely not wrong (love your profile pic btw, what an adorable cute little uberwarlocking danger-dog)
And JUST in case it's not clear (I've had a rough day online today) I'm totally agreeing with you, just was struck by how... odd things are nowadays.
I mean the developers have stated it in the wiki that doomslayer is supposed to be the player themselves. "The only thing they fear is you." So just imagine yourself behind that armor, going around killing shit. That's how the game is supposed to be played anyway.
I think there are some doom gal fanart out there
@@bukitcengkeh1 yeah she showed one too saying how oversexualized it is, just to later complain that the game isn’t oversexualized
We gonna forget doom guys commander was a woman named crash who was also a doom marine
"Doom is Excluding us!" At what point exactly did the start of the game say "Are you a woman or trans? Yes|No"
As far as my memory of playing doom goes, doom is about big man in a suit of armour with a shotgun and chainsaw who really hates demons and that's all it ever needs to be
Furthermore, about the Doomslayer being female. I feel like said fake feminists like the one from this video would have a problem with a woman ripping apart demons with her bare hands and punching the hell (Pun intended) out of everything she sees. People annoy me sometimes
Thank you
Female doom slayer would take an incredible amount of effort to introduce to the canon as well. Aside from needing a load of programming and animating and such that would come from adding a new character, you can't just throw some random woman who's entirely capable of what doomguy is into the story and call it a day. That's what star wars did.
@@329link and thats exculing the fact that all the other primevils are dead
just imagine what those feminists would say if doom guy was a doom girk xD they always have somthing to say while no one asked
@@329link It would still be greasy but I could see an easy shoehorn being "you're playing in a different timeline that has everything the same but DOOMGUY is a girl wOoOoO". Shitty writing but hey, at least it would somewhat make sense. Also, agree about adding a character. Way more work.
There's no need to introduce Doomgirl at all. Remember Crash from Quake 3? Even if somewhat non-canon, it was clearly stated that she was Slayer's tactics and combat instructor. She TAUGHT this monster of a man the 101 of slaughter. Take a moment for this lil bit of info to sink in.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” The quote is attributed to JRR Tolkien. This says it all.
**Happy Frodo Noises**
@@ThePolishTexan teachers basically did this when they would put boys and girls into separate areas, except one side got decimated
Funny thing is evil makes new things all the time lol
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@@aaronking2020 like subscription fees
"Girls and queer people like metal, fantasy violence, and demons too!"
Yes.
Yes we do.
That's why we like _Doom_ .
It checks those boxes.
Exactly
why do I like this comment so much?
I fucking love how we're all here defending our Goodest Boy from our childhoods slaying demons indiscriminately and one of the best comments here has an icon of Starlight Glimmer. lol
We know who we are. We absolutely fucking know who we are, and we're here to support the Slayer.
yes we do
yep :)
I wanna see some twitter mf try to complain about ultrakill, we have a robot, it shoots demons, and just because people call it “he” doesn’t change the fact that he’s quite literally a robot who runs on blood
Fun fact: there’s a documented case that a lot of people thought that Samus was a man until the end of one of the GBA games when it was first revealed that she was a woman. It didn’t stop people from loving her as a character. Checkmate, review author.
It marked Samus as the first female protagonist of video game history, after all.
No most of us knew from the 1st game. The ending if you don't suck shows she is female.
actually it was smash bros wii for me hahahahahaha
step1: be loved
step2: beloved
step3: reveal that i am a girl
step2: beloved
For most people it was a neuron activation lol
"Why can't I play a female doom slayer?"
Well at this point might as well make an option to play as Gwen Freewoman instead of Gordon Freeman.
lol
Gertie Fremont
You could like… choose Gordon freeman though
"Did you know it that in the beta of Half life 1, you would have the chance to play as Gordon Spouse?"🤓.
P.S: Glad that didn't happened. So pointless.
half life 2 goron eeman
Did you just call the doom slayer “Jesus Christ with a shotgun.” I have never heard a better description of this character 😂
Amen... AND SLAY! 😂
this is my favorite religious game praise jesus
"Angry jezzus with a boomstick"
Rofl
Just give him some holy hand grenades and he'll be all kitted out.
I mean he was chosen by God to be sent to Hell to kill demons soooo....
Doomguy's masculine nudity? Does that person mean his arms showing through his suit or something I missed?
"Literally Jesus christ with a shotgun fending off a demon invasion" dont know why but that made me die laughing
I mean… screw an angel with an shotgun, lets prove the “god given” right of the American second amendment! GIVE JESUS AN AK-47
*this is a joke i swear*
I am the way and the light, but sometimes the light is muzzle flash, gun jesus
@@isaacstogner234 Poetry
Sounds pretty awesome actually.
Ah yes, the age old debate of should there be sexual representation in a game where you got around literally murdering demons
Going all the way back to the bible
Fr. Like do you want him to kill cross dressing demons or something? Then the issue would be even worse lmao. People just wanna bitch. They could make something themselves but they won’t
It's not *age old* at all. It's last decade insanity.
And why the F do we need rEpReSeNtAtIoN? Shall we print books also now with keeping the story the same, but flipping geners? *Conana the barbariana*
Self-centered insane bullshit. Nothing more.
getting angry than doom slayer isnt a woman is crazy
@@Memerproductions especially because the author was first pissed because the genders werent equally shown, yet, if we made the doomguy a girl that would mean we would have the exact same problem and just turned it 180 degrees. How is that the solution?!
Keep in mind that doom guy became a killing machine because his wife, child and his pet were killed by demons
I mean if my whole family was killed by demons, I’d get the BFG 9000 too.
Well the family thing is just a theory. I prefer him just being mad over Daisy.
@@depressedcheems9961 yeah the rest doesnt fit the doom guy
no, the family thing had been confirmed by Hugo martin in a interview
@@nc-sirpork3212 well that sucks
3:24 I’m ten years old and I’ve played the pixel doom games and the new ones and eternal is my favorite
Probably shouldn't be playing doom but respect to ya
there is one human in doom eternal, if its a woman its sexist, if its a man its sexist, if its trans its sexist, wdf do you want the devs to do?
There is around 12 in the main game (except from doomguy and hayden) and 8ish in ancient gods (still excluding doomguy but including intern) the ones in the main game are on the Mars and arc/uac facility levels and if you count the sentinel soilders then there are a lot more but I don't think you ever see them without full armour
simple,
remove humans from the game
Invent a whole new gender 😂
@@bencatterall6517isn’t doom guy not human? He’s literally genetically identical to Lucifer no?
Make "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League". That was a game that ticked pretty much all of the DEI moron brigade's boxes and we see exactly where that got them.
My English teacher tried to "teach" us about things like this today, when he asked what everyone was thinking (like he usually does) everyone except one person said to his face "that was stupid" "this was a waste of my time" and "dude, they are videogames"
Was kinda funny to watch him melt away after that 😂
What'd the one dude say?
(I use dude when i am unsure of gender, i'm not assuming)
@@noahoakley339 assuming gender is not illegal or wrong dude
@@noahoakley339 Our brains are designed to make assumptions in order to fill in gaps of information, we've just demonized it for some reason.
Lol
@@TheRhalf true but a bunch people still gets mad about it.
I always find it funny, that arguments like this are a lose-lose situation:
1) Make a dumb game about killing demons
2a) Make the protagonist a buff dude
2b) Make the protagonist a slim girl (refering to Samus)
scenario a - caters to men, because no women. manly nudity
scenario b - caters to men, because they can look at a woman
all in all it's an FPS, you see hands mostly, and they are in power armor. We all know the most lusted-for object in the game is the supershotgun.
I hope not a lot of people have the same opinion as the article author, and we can all equally enjoy fun games where u slam demons into oblivion.
Samus is quite buff for being a girl tho
You just said it’s a dumb game :/
I’m not sayin I lust after the supershotgun. But if humanity depended on me… yknow… I would do it.
Wait, wouldn't scenario a be technically cater to women, because it has "manly nudity"?
@@Arsaja that is why I said it there, because it’s nonsense - action movies/Games with buff guys a’la Schwarzenneger is usually the posterchild for „Dumb movies for Dumb men, toxic masculinity”.
Can you imagine a woman (Dr Elena's recordings) working for the Committee as a scientist in order to think of "dirty" fantasies with the main character on the verge of destroying humanity? What?
Elena is a scientist who studied blood samples of the main character and tried to find out if he is a threat to humanity. She believed in him not because he is a cool pumped-up man, but because he is the only hope for saving people. This is completely understandable. What kind of sexism are these posts talking about??
Nah, the dude who wrote this post probably hasn't played this game. Just took something out of context.
:A game has a woman character, sexist!
:A game dossent have a woman character, sexist!
What do these ppl want like dang
They want every character to be Frisk.
They don't know what they want so their "opinion" isn't all that helpful. Game devs really should just let them scream and cry into the air, they will get over it.
@@chaosgilleon6433 fr
They want to be the victim lol
they like everyone to be miserable like them
This is literally that one clip of Richard Watterson reviewing the calculator app, and saying “there aren’t any female characters, but I guess there aren’t any male characters either so it’s alright.”
Ah yes, Calcula-tor.
@@St4r_Z0mb13 yeah that one 💀
Saying a feminist is wrong is exactly like saying take off your vest to a sucide bomber both will blow up in your face
BTW did they ever fix the balloon crash bug?
Can you give me the name of the video so i candislike it
It's actually impressive how a game with a silent protagonist that indiscriminately kills literally demons from hell can be viewed through an irl political lens.
It's literally a game about killing demons (and sometimes angels), where are the politics?
@@thatonewitch I guess you stopped watching 5 seconds into the video.
@@thatonewitch The politics come from angry third wave feminists who play the game and insist that games like that only fuel the quote "toxic masculinity" paradigm.
The only reason I put toxic masculinity in quotes is because no one can clearly define what toxic masculinity is except for me it seems.
I know that comes across as rather arrogant, but I have some ideas.
So yeah there's no actual politics in the video game. Just fucking Karen's wanting to put politics into the game.
Goes along with the whole video games. Make you violent type of mentality.
And on that note I'd say not having a violent ass video game to let my anger out on would make me pretty fucking violent.
People always have to find something to be mad about, otherwise their purpose In life is meaningless.
no he say only one word in the game and it is at the end and he says: no. so thechncicky he is not a silent protagonist
Man if they claim brutally annihilating demons is any of the shit they claim then they tripping balls on the worst shit on the streets
The article about addressing sexism in a video game: we can’t be using stereo types as a way to create a character. Also them: this video game is only made for men because it has gore, demons, and is based around the use of guns.
Idk maaan… sounds like a stereotype
havent you noticed these people that are anti gender stereotypes uphold gender stereotypes the strongest?
@@IDontDoDrumCovers exactly, then get defensive. Straight people bringing up gender stereotypes around them is like calling a black person the n-word with a hard r.
The plan for that review in a nutshell
"ok gurls, I have this awesome idea. Lets complain about sexism by being sexist"
"slayyyyy!!"
💀💀
@@thetaikasaapas6318 fr
Stereotypes are great for making characters, don't know what them wokes are smokin'.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but there will always be something to offend a feminist." - Peter Lloyd
You can't argue with people who write these articles because they're so brainwashed by their own bs that they believe whatever they say is automatically correct.
Based
Amen brother
in a few months you'll be a nazi! have fun going down the alt right pipeline because of videos that focus in on 0.00001% of the population giving you confirmation bias about your opinion of feminists
@@Gecko-rn1eo could doomslayer be the pope
I love how this people seem to think that women or trans people won't be able to enjoy a game just because the main character (in a first person perspective game) isn't a woman or trans. Like, I cannot enjoy Kirby because I am not a pink round monster that absorbs the power of everything it eats.
I get it's nice to feel represented in a piece of Media, but it doesn't have to be in every piece of art. Specially when it doesn't try to be realistic. Following this logic Zootopia is racist because there is no black people in it.
I guess when you live life through a subjective lens you get crazies like this.
Furthermore, if you can't identify with a character that doesn't perfectly match your sex/race/whatever, doesn't that make YOU sexist/racist/whateverist?
It’s taking all my power as a free man, not to make a terrible remark about your last comment on your post lmfao may god save my soul lmfao
My closet friend is a trans woman and she likes doom
I want an Allen Ripley Alien movie, and all the new star wars movies have to be reshot with alternate scenes so that there is a male main character called Ray kappa
If the doomslayer would be a plus size transgender queen with coloured hair, tattoos and piercings in a rainbow armour and/or the demons had boobs.. i bet there would be an outrage as well.
"Why can't I play with a female doom slayer?
My brother in Christ, JUST DOWNLOAD A FUCKIN MOD-
If you put in a choice between male or female then it’s also excluded from all of “the other genders”
Watch out, you’re getting cancelled for saying “brother”. Get ready for overly spammed and annoying criticism!
@@dobeikwan3684 "my brother, sister, gay, lesbian, bi, trans, mantowoman, womantoman, queer, genderfluid", and so on (there is countless of this shit this times) was just too long... and even if he would get all of them in a single comment, they would blame him because of the order xD
@all btw. i am ready ;) roast me (i just don't give a shit xD)
and btw. i have nothing against anyones sexuality, to be honest... but i hate fucking trolls... and that is, what they are doing... they are not doing it for the rights and gender equality... they are doing it just for trolling... i will never understand, why everyone seems to lend them an ear
@@Akhensefu mission passed +respect
@@AkhensefuEnglish?
11:39 when she says "id Software went out of their way to not include a female playable character" that is just ludicrous. Any addition to the game takes MORE work, not less, including but not limited to; modeling, texturing, and rigging another playermodel, as well as either doing a whole new set of animations or manually offsetting the original animations to fit a different shaped skeleton, you need to add a menu to be able to select the player's gender, and you need to playtest the game through gameplay and cutscenes to make sure it looks right and everything lines up (the player's feet properly collide with the ground, hands line up with the handles on sentinel batteries, etc). I mean sure I wouldn't have minded Doomgirl as a playable character, but they definitely did NOT go out of their way not to include the option.
I noticed as well that the first section of the 'review' concluded with "they are sexist against women because they didn't include a female protagonist option!" But then the author turned around and complained that not including that option is ALSO sexist against Trans people. If you want them to cater to both women and trans as genders, then wouldn't the solution be more complex than 'add female protagonist'? Seems like the review author is more sexist than id Software if they refuse to acknowledge that trans people are different from both men and women and therefore require a different solution to this 'problem'. I get that the Doomslayer is canonically male, but if it bothers you that much, can't you just imagine it's actually a very muscular woman like Red Sonya whose voice has been damaged from heavy chain smoking like Patty and Selma? Sounds like the reviewer is ASSUMING gender based on what they've seen and been told about a character. Did they ever stop to ASK the Doomslayer what pronouns it prefers? If the Doomslayer prefers he/him pronouns, isn't it sexist to complain that he doesn't want to be referred to as trans or female?
Also, given the direction they went with the story, _not_ having it be Doomguy would be very weird - I mean, go back to 1993 and look at the bottom of the screen, if you would.
@@anhilliator1 Still, I wouldn't have objected to a little toggle that makes the character portrait into a woman, I was just arguing with the conjecture that "intentionally making this game less inclusive cost id more time" which is the opposite of the truth.
@@anhilliator1 Indeed. This isn't some random person pulled out of a hat. This is the same person from all the way back in the first game of the series. It would be like making a new Tomb Raider, supposedly part of the series, but with Lionel Croft as the protagonist.
And Here is Somebody who knows there gaming development
Thanks Dude you Just Made my day
I am a 37 year old woman and I have to say that I NEVER even thought about things like that. You are in ego perspective most of the time. I mean you are ripping demons apart while theres heavy metal blasting. Thats all I care for. Oh and story... of course.
Doom does not have a story, don't be silly.
@@johnwalker3602demon slaying is the story, we're just fully embracing our bloodlust and the metal that we barely notice it.
Internalized misogyny. You hate to see it.
@@AmaryInkawultI'm to busy killing demon to even know there is a story in the game
@@johnwalker3602 One of the best thing about Doom 2016 is that there is a story going on and the Slayer doesn't give a shit. Smashing consoles during conversations and flipping off the people talking at him.
"Why can't I play as a female Doomslayer?"
Why can't I play as a male Sammus
So... these "feminists" (and I put massive Icon of Sin sized quotemarks around that word because they're very clearly NOT feminists and just do it for points) think that the main character should still be an absolute psychopath who can't even communicate with other humans anymore from being traumatized to SHEER INSANITY... but also female.
So... Crash doesn't exist now? You know, the lady who TAUGHT Doom Guy how to rip and tear EVEN BETTER?
Who is Crash? I've literally never heard of her.
never heard of this bandycoot training Doom Guy, too
Also, I'm pretty sure it was the Night Sentinels who taught the Doom Slayer to fight like he currently does.
"Icon of Sin sized"
Fucking glorious
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 She's from the Quake games. Doomguy made a cameo in it as a playable character and they added in the Quake lore that she taught him the ropes of how the Quake arena games worked as well as that they dated for a while.
Feminine demon:you wouldn’t hit a girl would you!?
Doom guy: I believe in gender equality
Equal lives, Equal rights
@@GunMan69420Equal rights unfair fights for both sides
My fists are rated E for everyone
@@RowletRissotoGod damnit you beat me to it
@@Mu7.. you snooze you lose
No wonder DOOM is so successful, it doesn't care about Society's opinions. And I'm glad it doesn't.
Stupid shit like this ruins video games and most definitely movies nowadays.
Yeah dude, like in some movies of horror or combat action they felt obligated to keep a woman alive because if she died "it was sexist so bad movie"
@@Creminson literally it’s so fucking annoying
One of the reasons I love the magazines in Doomslayer's room.
They even added a joke at cancel cultures expense.
"Why Doomslayer owes the Mortality challenged community an apology"
I laughed my ass off when I saw that for the first time lol
@@solaire2271 wait, where do you find that one, I've looked through those and haven't seen that one
@@dragonmaster3030 It's right next to his computer on the left side of the desk. It's got a possessed on the cover.
Males when playing as females:- yayyyy
Females when playing as men:- THIS GAME IS TRANSPHOBIC😠
Everyone seems to forget that we already have a Doom Girl, her name is Crash and according to the lore she was the one who trained Doom Guy and taught him everything. Yeah, she only appeared in Quake 3 but she does exist.
I thought the sentinels trained doom slayer
@@zaer-ezart fuck idk lore is retconned all the time
@@zaer-ezartDoom Slayer was a marine before, and obviously he had some kind of mentor/instructor to train him
@@kickrobotsintheballs5840
No, he's a clone of that universe's equivalent of...both God and the Devil.
He wasn't even born (unlike the Blazkowicz Doomguy from classic Doom).
@@zaer-ezart
Doom Slayer is a different character, in a different universe.
Crash trained Doomguy from the classic games.
"if they saw Jesus Christ literally with a shotgun fighting off Demons" i choked on my food, can someone paint this?
Seeing Jesus killing demons with buckshot would unironically make me a devout Christian.
And no ai shit
brothers im on it
@@Kaliypso let us know where you post it XD im so looking forward to it
I ain't even religious but that sounds sick as fuck
"Why can't I play a female doom slayer?"
Why can't I play a male Lara Croft?
Lawrence croft?
Why can't I play a latino Black Panther
@@christophercampa6777 La pantera negra?
leonard croft
@@someguy2352 La Pantera Negro 😎
The way the author of that article wrote that "they go out of their way not to make a female protagonist" seriously says that the author doesn't play games or just doesn't have enough brain cells to understand that DOOM is a game where there was, is and will be only a male protagonist (that is just my opinion)
You know what i find funny, is that if id wanted they could make a spin off game focusing on your average marines where the Protagonist could be female and a group of marines trying to survive the apocalypse lol.
The mainline games yes the protagonist will nd always be doom guy but its no likea female protagonist couldn't be the highlight.
She just needs to be in a spin off game and not be portrayed as the powerful god the doom slayer is but your Normal marine youd see in the games
I wish people would stop complaining on my behalf. I'm a woman. I've been playing Doom since I was a girl. I've never once felt excluded from the community or that the game was sexist. In fact how do you label a game sexist if it has no women in the game? You can't misrepresent or sexualise women if they're not included, surely? If not having a woman in the game is an issue, don't play it. Go play Bayonetta or Ion Fury.
I wish modern media was less obsessed with genitals. It's creepy. Let me kill swathes of demons in peace.
*Props to Olivia Pierce and Khan Maykr for being so unsexy I didn't even think of them.
Even funnier that the Khan Maykr, the main villain for the base game was a women and they'd still say it's sexist. Lord I despise those folks that conjure crap from nothing.
Who feels like there should be a female doom slayer skin?
@@Jules279 my mistake, I forgot about the Khan Maykr and Olivia Pierce, both incredible badasses in their own right. I forgot about them because I was trying to think of sexy objectified women in the game... Things they're very obviously not. These people are lunatics if I'm honest. I couldn't imagine spending all that time thinking about other people's genitals and then calling everyone else a bigot and a pervert. They don't want equality, they want control.
@@amandaperez4947 no thanks. Make a mod, but the studios better not touch a hair on the Doom Slayers precious little head.
@@JoanWhack 100% true. I can think of very few franchises that are as equal as Doom. Most likely they are triggered because Doom is a series about plowing through whatever obstacles life puts up and standing up to darkness. All things they're incapable of doing.
It's rip and tear not simp in fear.
This comment. I am stealing it.
You made my day
My comment now.
This is my favorite comment
Real
Fun fact, the new age doomgames were supposed have genderless protagonists
The game has always been about the actions you cause, not the person you are
But you can never kill doomguy he is eternal
Plus it would be kinda hard to say genderless because the armor is pure male no female designs at all though seeing a female doom slayer wouldn’t be bad now would they be muscle or thin but stronger than your average demon
So you're saying doom's eternal
doomguy:im eternal, and now im gonna kill you
the guy who created him, the one who doom guy is gonna kill: we are tethered idiot
doomguy: nooooo
this is the doom eternal dlc in a nutshell
Ok but the longer the icon of sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become
@@ilovemonkeys765 The stronger it will becum
1:52 is that guacamole gamer fart 9000 gamer supps?!?!.
Guacamole Gamer fart 9000
(Russianbadger is goated)
“Adding diversity to your game for the sake of having it” is exactly what Disney is doing and it’s ruining them.
Shoehorning diversity for the pure sake of it never works, especially in a game like Doom because where would you put all these minorities? The only interaction the Doom Slayer has with normal humans is ignoring everyone around him unless they have or can do something he needs. Even if someone is in his way, he just pushes them aside without looking at them and continues along his merry way.
Damn straight. We don’t need kids gay or trans already, let them make that choice when they’re older and decide who they want to be
How is adding disgusting abnormality considered diversity?
@@RS14988 why don’t they add pedophiles in doom for diversity? Lmao
"Jesus christ with a shotgun"
That's a surprisingly accurate description
Even more jacked than the actual Jesus Christ
@@whywhy595We don’t know cuz Jesus might be the hulk for all we know
@@The-Dark-Bat If I recall, he did assault a temple, or something like thaf
@@edwardbo4666 thinking about anakin christ
@@user-mp3zf5td5qwith the youngling spirit 9000
*videogames makes you agressive*
this guy: *the most kind and peaceful person i've ever met*
idk how he does it, I totally lost my shit while watching this video because of the article. He's a damn saint.
@@AJ-po6up I'm trans myself, and I got annoyed too. People should stop accusing things of being something-phobic unless it specifically aims at offending someone. It doesn't help the problem, it just makes it worse. 🙄
@@aeolian951 if i were to call u a queer am i transphobic? or am i just saying the truth
@@UVB76-4x It's not transphobic. Queer people often use the word queer themselves, and (as far as I know) everyone is fine with it.
@@aeolian951 what made u think ur a girl on the inside tho?
I can’t believe someone actually wrote this and got paid for it there’s just no way
Loved the "lusting" part. Imagine just some female character in doom telling the doom guy how thicc he looks or how she likes his juicy arms lol
but could you imagine that
Somewhere in the doom world some girls are actually doing this, the dude is the ultimate chad that rips demons 5 times taller than him apart like me eating chocolate
@Server Meta yeah
(Cortana)
"Pull me apart Doom daddy!"
"I don't fap to Bayonetta, I'm not a degenarate!"
Nervous breathing:
"Y-Yeah! M-Me neither..."
Also, people love to complicate what's simple just to get attention...
As you said, it's a game about killing demons, let it be that!
Also, when she says: "The problem is that it is a game designed for men!" I thought: Why is that a problem? Really... Can't we have games that are designed to pander to the male audence? If it was a game designed to pander to the female audience nobody would say a thing...
@Random Platypus with Internet Exactly! Either it's assuming that either because the main character is a man, the entire series is made specifically for men, or because it's about ruthless carnage upon demon kind that it's made specifically for men...both of which are just...wrong
"while playing" he said ;)
@@someguy3861 Ohhhh... "Keeps breathing nervously"...
@@damienearl1310 hey i would enjoy ripping and tearing through demons
Shit man, you have such a good point and I totally agree
Claim: "Doom is transphobic."
John Romero holding a BFG: "I just want to talk to them."
just a question - BFG9000 or BFG10000?
@@cataclysm2773 BFG 9000, obviously.
@@eljaminlatour6633 Aye, the BFG 10K was a Quake 3 Arena/Team Arena weapon.
@@AkumaNoKuroi Skulltag contained a version of it as well. :)