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- This was CAF's HE-111, Heinkel a WWII German Bomber. It was the only flying example in the world but sadly this very plane crashed on July of 2003 killing the crew on-board:
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I am not totally sure when this video was taken, but I suspect it was around 1998. It was a Spanish-built CASA 2.111D that was not used for bombing but more of a VIP Transport Plane.
According to that website another HE-111 is being restored, so good. If you listen as the plane taxis away, one of the CAF guys is talking to a kid as to the specifics of that plane. Kinda interesting anyway.
Once again sorry for the shaky camera bit. I wish I had a tripod at the time.
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As bombers go, this is one of the most beautifully designed planes.. It shows the skill of Ernst Heinkel and his great team of designers.
Ernst heinkel always said he made beautiful planes that had great look and functionality.
Willy messerschmitt said
I make fast planes
@@bill0127 and it seems they were true.
My uncle was flying that bird when it went down 10 years ago in Wyoming. Joseph Steven Bates. He loved to fly...Fly on Uncle Steve!
Sorry for your loss :/
Regardless of politics, origin and so on, it is a heck of a beautiful plane.
My Dad was an HE-111 pilot . I've read all your comments. Some good and well informed but most just garble. My father was verbally abused and harassed by people of the Jewish persuasion in Calgary after he proudly showed up at the air museum at the request of the higher ups to speak about and give tours of the HE-111 that flew in with the B-17 and were on display before the Heinkel mysteriously crashed. He spoke from his heart regarding his 20 year old mind set during the war. He was emotionally beat to a pulp. So there it is you guys. Stuff the general public never hears about. I have articles and pictures . thank god the general condenses in response to the hate mail was possitive.
Most people I meet in the Warbird circles would have been fascinated by what your father had to say. No one I know would have shown him such disrespect. He must have came up against a more political element than the average Aviation Enthusiast. I am sorry for what they did to him. - I know a few Japanese people who felt embarrassed and shame when I shared a few video and pictures of a real Japanese Zero based in Chino California. I was asked what Americans think of when we see such a plane. I tried to explain that much of the politics are out of the conversation. Now its more of a fascination of the aircraft and the people who flew them and what it was like to live back in that time. Pretty much the haters are interested parties to a certain extent, but not really anything close to an enthusiasts. Its pretty much the norm in other parts of the world too now. Side note, I notice that its the Germans who are most interested in our old aircraft of that era. In my area we train lots of German and Japanese commercial Pilots. Anytime a old Warbird flies in, they all come out to see the plane and get inside and get their selfie pictures beside it.
+Inge Vandyken Is this the actual powerplant or just Rolls-Royce Merlins? WW2 planes were masterpieces,on both sides!!!
+TheMilKill559Enterprise
No Jumo-engined He-111 is flying at this time. And this plane was destroyed in a fatal crash in 2003. Maybe another one will fly sometime in the future.
Hopefully the one at RAF Hendon museum!
+TheMilKill559Enterprise
It's been discussed that the Spanish CASA 211 at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum would be the easiest to get airworthy with some work. RAF Hendon would never fly their He-111. There is an He-111 project floating around Europe that is planned for airworthy, but it may take years.
My grandfather was an HE-111 pilot. Thanks for the visualization of this wonderful plane 80 years later.
The heinkel 111 is one of my favorite bombers to date! It is truly a stunning design and will always have a spot in my heart
I flew on this aircraft in 99 from Wisconsin to Michigan. We even buzzed Meigs Feild. Approximately 14 Spanish licensed built CASA 2.111s survive today in various conditions on display or storage. One modified Spanish 2.111D served as a transport for Spanish VIPs, including General Francisco Franco, before being purchased in England by the Commemorative Air Force in 1977. It remained the last He 111 in flyable condition until 10 July 2003, when it was destroyed in a fatal crash landing.
I remember visiting the Mesa wing and seeing this thing in the hangar. Once I even walked inside up to the cockpit. Wish I had taken pictures.
Had the opportunity to board this aircraft on static display at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum years ago. It was a thing of beauty and not at all like I would have expected. I came away both entertained AND educated. As the only serviceable/flying unit in the world, it breaks my heart to know that it is no longer with us, as well as the crew who loving flew her. Thank you CAF (confederate air force) for all the hard work and dedication!!!!!!!!
I feel fortunate to have actually seen this plane actually flying in formation over San Diego waay back in the late 90s while I was mowing my parents lawn! I remember it flying with a Commando, Liberator and B-17 I think. Was so awesome. They were flying out of Gillespie Field during an airshow that time. RIP to crew n plane.
I hate to say it, but it is not a He 111 - it's a CASA 2.111. "Same thing" - no, it's not the same thing. Different engines and other internal differences.
Niko Christian Wallenberg, to be fair it did have German Engines when it was built originally and during WW2, but they where found to be unreliable, and where ironically swapped for Rolls Royce Merlin Engines. Otherwise, it’s almost identical.
Piuxie Gaming & Hardware I know that, and I agree, I was simply saying that it had German engines originally. Learn to read
This plane was not built during World War II - it was built after the war (construction number 118) and used Rolls-Royce Merlin engines from the very beginning (unlike some other CASA 2.111 aircraft that had their engines changed later on). The change of engines had nothing to do with the German engines being "unreliable": they were changed because after the war access to German engines became an issue - they were no longer available for replacements and spares - but British Rolls-Royce Merlin were.
True. But this is the closest thing to a flying example. Now it crashed 😳
@Piuxie Gaming & Hardware same fucking thing tho just little differences
To Inge Vandyken. Your father was very courageous in his flying days . It was also a passion for many pilots who gave there all during a time that was uncertain . It is out of sheer ignorance by some to put a man down for what he did in his life and not know anything about it or him. I salute him for having the strength to return and give his heart to tell his stories about the HE 111 . To those that are still alive and with us today i wish them well . My family was there and to see reunions between german and american and british soldiers and airmen and to hear there stories together as friends and not enemies is a blessing.
@SuperBrett1984
Crashed and destroyed in July 2003 with the loss all crew. No other example is currently flying, although another CASA survivor could be flyable with some work. There are possibly two projects to build flyable originals, but not much info on them.
@SignorThomasino
Early series He-111s A-D could have Daimler 600 series engines and later marks had the Jumos. This example was a post-war Spanish airframe with RR Merlins, destroyed several years ago after engine failure during landing.
This Plane is a Spanish version of the German Heinkel 111. I saw this plane back in the late 1989-90 when it was purchased by the Confederate Airforce. This Spanish version was Franco's Personal Transport and not a Bomber.
Got to crawl through that plane about a hundred years ago. Thanks for the upload
Sorry guys, just getting to this. The engines were definitely RR's and the engines failed because they definitely switched to a dry tank. They realized the mistake but could not get the engines restarted. This according to what I read, and what I heard from the Arizona Wing of CAF in Mesa, AZ.
As for engines, just listen to the sound, and they sound just like two P-51's running side by side.
They Spanish He111s were being retired from service at about the same time as the BoB filming. They were offered for sale, but with few takers they were scrapped. Many of the HA-1112 fighters found buyers and survive today.
That's sick. I used to see this plane flying by my house all the time, but never saw it up close, then it crashed. Damn....
I got to get inside this plane in 2001. Fairly small interior with about 4 seats under the upper gun turret. Under the floor, the rear belly gunner would lay down. The bombay was between the upper gun turret and pilot and the bombs would stand vertical. The wings on these were very wide.
Ese ruido del motor hace pensar que estamos en los años 40`s, los clásicos motores a hélice.
I got to check out the inside of this plane at an airshow in El Paso. I think it was back in the 90s. Sucks what happened to it.
@crazeball89 - Both German and Japanese militaries were dismantled after the war and much of their war making equipment were destroyed except a few rare examples, which may have been out of the country at the time or were salvaged from later found crash sites.
More casas, real heinkel he 111s and all other WW2 planes need to be recovered and restored now
I think Spain had some 30+ CASA 211s when BoB was filmed in 1968. They were retired from service soon afterward. Most were scrapped since there were no buyers for them, but a few remain. None are currently airworthy.
Beautiful aircraft, so sad to hear she crashed with the loss of her crew. Lovely sound from her engines
Bro it's not she it's he idiot
Cool airplane. I sat in it in 1995. And gave the confederate Air Force some great copies of my Dads WW2 photos flying the He 111 and Ju 88 over Stalingrad during operation Barbarossa KG53. 220 missions. Honored to have them put up at the Museum in Mesa Az. 🤘🏻👍🏻
The second Stuka survivor is in the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. It's mostly original, but the wheels (perhaps the gear) are from a T6 after it was accidentally damaged years ago. There are a number of Stuka wrecks and a couple of static rebuilds. One is owned by an individual with history of airworthy rebuilds, so maybe there will be an airworthy example some day.
I remember walking through this aircraft as a kid. It came to the Geneseo Airport in NY joined by the B-17 Sentimental Journey. She always took a secondary place, but she's what I came to see. watching her taking off on that a grass strip really made you feel like you were in 1939.
Most were scrapped. One sold to an English buyer crashed on the ferry tour, killing the famous aerobatic flier Neil Williams and his wife. A few remain in museums in Spain, Germany and USA. Maybe even in some other countries.
@mybluebelly
This aircraft was a post-war CASA 211 built in Spain and powered by Merlin engines. Surviving Luftwaffe front line aircraft are rare, and it is even rarer to see them in airworthy condition with original engines since engine spares are difficult to locate. (Compared with Merlins that saw continued use and manufacture after the war.)
Continued.....
Ok, the 111 used (and being flown) was a CASA 2.111. Several HE-111 were shipped to Spain for production. CASA differed in engines (Merlins, not DB's).
We still bare the scars of this beautiful plane here in South East England
Living near Rotterdam I have mixed feelings watching this plane.
this is my favourite plane of all planes, I am an enthusiast of WW1 planes but there are some WW2 exceptions, and this is one of them, I LOVE the Heinkel
I have a special old Neighbour that flew these during WW2... GOOD POST..THANKS HEAPS !
I had the opportunity to see and touch this He-111 in the year 200o at the Lancaster Ohio air show. Sad. Beautiful Beast it was. Jolly Good plane was also in the Battle of Britain Movie in 1969. It also was flown on missions in the actual battles in Britan.
The CASA 2.111 above had construction number T8-B-124 and was built in 1952 in Spain. Some of the early CASA aircraft used leftover German airframes, but I'm not sure if this 2.111 originated from an original Heinkel airframe.
Speaking of seeing and touching, the Buchons that were used in the movie as 109's are now for sale. They haven't flown since the movie though, they're filthy but in seemingly good shape. I wish that I could afford one... www.platinumfighters.com/#!ha-1112-m1l/c12zi
@@FiveCentsPlease I have never heard of CASA aircraft having He-111 airframes. As far as I know, CASA made all of their airframes in-house. The Germans were very much against delivering airframes to Spain since they had a deficit themselves.
I never saw the movie, but it is reported that they did feature HE-111's in the film. There are no flying examples at this time of HE-111's FYI
"The German planes seen at the beginning of the film were HE-111 Bombers."
Credits to IMDb
But this one doesn't seem like it is a original one. The engines look different and it has too many windows. This is a spanish CASA. A licenced built.
True, in fact the HE-111’s in The Battle of Britain were all Spanish variants still in service at the time. The opening scene in fact was filmed in Spain at a Spanish Air Force base
@alliedace
I haven't heard of any plans to that effect. There are one or two long-term He111 restorations ongoing, but with very rare aircraft it's a matter of time and money. The Cavanaugh Flight Museum example is probably the best candidate to get flying in the meantime.
A little more triva. The plane shown here was actually of the transport version with dual controls and a lot of large windows on the sides (as seen), with gun positions added.
Imagine the sound a thousand times louder and more thats what London sounded like
It's very hard to comprehend the lack of importance shown to these historic craft. Yes it is very expensive to restore and maintain aeroplanes we know, but, although there are a few in museums, the very idea of someone cutting up these iconic planes through lack of support, is hard to understand. They could have at least been 'mothballed'. Having said all this--I am angry and disgusted by my home city for not taking care of the last Concord to fly. It lies forgotten and rotting out in the open.
It is a very interesting looking plane - the shape of it.
very true. you can tell the difference between the two in that the HE-111 didn't have the air scoops underneath the engines. same with the ME-109 and its Spanish Hispano Aviación HA-1112 Buchon variant. The 109 didn't have an airscoop when the Buchon did.
A significant number of so-called 'ME 109' and 'Heinkel 111' aircraft featured in articles like this are probably not actually WWII vintage or even of German manufacture.
They are more likely to be license built examples manufactured by Hispano after the war.
You can tell from placement of the exhaust outlets if aircraft have 'upright' Rolls Royce Merlin engines.
Aircraft fitted with 'inverted' style engines produced by Daimler Benz and Junkers for the German aircraft industry prior to and during the war are distinctly different.
@Brian79camino
It was a single engine failure during landing and it struck a fence and a building. The Cavannah Flight Museum has a CASA example which could be made airworthy with a little work. There is/was a project to get a real He111 flying, but updates are few if this project still even exists. Paul Allen also has an He111, but since his projects seem to only do about 1 rivet per year I doubt we'll live long enough to see it finished.
The He111. I will never forget it. amazing history.
On the contrary, the Spanish were still operating the CASA-Heinkel until the mid-1970s. Their air force still had a significant number of aircraft available to the production team for the Battle of Britain film in 1968. Their Hispano-Messerschmitts were on the scrapheap until Hamish Mahaddie came knocking....
This is a casa2-111 but still great to see
AND for the record it is a Casa 2111 that was rebuilt to the exact specs and painted like the He111. It also had modified Merlin engines and not the BMW motors.
It actually is a CASA 2111, a Spanish licensbuilt version of the Geman Heinkel 111. Painted in German colours and markings.
What happened to the rest of the Spanish air force planes that were used in the Battle of Britain movie. ? I think all the He's and Me's were fitted with either Rolls Merlin or Hispano engines, not the original Benz or Jumo types....??
I have the vaguest recollection that someone acquired them all. But that's all I recall.
Maybe I saw the video here on TH-cam. I can't recall. It was like a documentary.
I'm sure someone out there can answer your question.
That's what I said: A license built HE 111. C.A.S.A didn't copy any captured planes.
Wikipedia: "In 1937, during the Spanish Civil War, the Spanish Air Force received a number of He 111Bs from Germany, which had begun to receive the improved He 111D model, receiving He 111Es following the end of the war. There was a need for more modern aircraft, however, so in 1940, CASA negotiated a contract with Heinkel to produce 200 examples of the newer He 111 H-16 in Seville".
Research!!! :)
I saw this aircraft while at Kennywood Park, PA, about Aug. 2000? I nearly had a stroke. Didn't know there were any flying anywhere. Now there are none? I would contribute to any fund that would restore one. Must be some somewhere, maybe North Africa? Norway? Must be something somewhere.
@mybluebelly
Most of these aircraft are restored as accurately as possible, however any installed guns must be inoperative to comply with laws. (Firing pins removed or even a plug welded into business end.) If they are flown, some modern equipment may by installed for navigation, communication, transponders, etc for modern safe flight. Electrical wiring will probably be modern. (The Flying Heritage Museum remanfactured original wiring for their aircraft for accuracy.)
Sad to hear, that both the crew and the plane crashed. My prayers are with all of them.
There are no original He-111s from the war that are flyable. Spain manufactured the He-111 airframe after the war as the CASA 211, fitted with Merlin engines. An impressive number of these 211s were used for the 1968 film Battle of Britain just before the planes were retired and scrapped. A few 211s were purchased and survive today but none are airworthy since the crash of N72515. One or two original He-111s are being restored to possibly fly, but they are many years from complete.
@Ichiban7
The Spanish did not start using the Merlins until the early 1950s. During wartime, the Spanish used the German engines they could find and continued post war. I believe Germany could never live up to their promise to supply engines for Spanish He111 and fighter production, since engine production was needed for their own aircraft.
Yes, a lovely aircraft, this looks like a license built Casa (Spanish) model by the RR engines. Sadly very few Daimler-Benz powered ones survived. It started life as a little civil liner in the mid 30's, very fast and advanced for the time. It was always the most numerous type during the Luftwaffe bombing campaign over England.
Geoff Cooper The Daimler Benz sounds much more deeper and Scray
Awesome bomber.I like that there is alittle bit "steampunk" look to it,not much,but a little.
What a great loss,i saw this plane at my home town airport in the mid 90s.
N72615 Here is the plane number if you look up on the NTBS website you can find the report it tells all about this aircraft and what happened. Cheers!
The pilots accidentally switched to a dry tank and that is why the engines failed. They crashed through a fense and flew into a School Bus, car wash. I think they had hoped that it would stop the plane. They did a great job at avoiding people and houses. Its a real pity. It was based out here in Mesa, Arizona. Somewhere I have photos.
Yeah I saw it on ramp from Greenfield rd.. And now regretted not taking time to tour it. This was in early '90s
You are correct... those are RR, the Benz or Daimler Benz / Porsche Motors sound much different
Yes, people are always most important. Several years ago, a very rare Hawker Fury belonging to the Royal Navy, got stuck with one main landing gear out and one in. The pilot tried everything, to no use. Finally he was ordered to aim the plane out to sea and jump and so he did.
Afterwards, some people said that he should have tried to land the plane "at all cost". Other, more sensible persons asked: Would You have said the same if the pilot had been Your father, brother or son?...
I had the opportunity to walk inside and take pictures of this gal. The aircraft had engine problems, and was at the Arlington, TX airport for about a week. I stopped by and talked to the crew, and they let me go inside...still have the 35mm pictures.
+ sal1701 The went down with an engine out, but there was too much damage to determine the cause.
Originally powered by two 46,8 liter BMW V12 engines with ~800hp each... but this is powered by RR Merlins I think
I have no clue, but likely no. I did hear about someone trying to restore one to flying condition, but its been some time since I heard anything about it. These planes are rare than rare.
Gotta love the sound of those R.R. Merlin engines firing up!!
Yes. I'm Swedish and I know that SAAB's second jet fighter design, the J29 "Flying Barrel", used information from the German research. It was the first Western Europe plane with swept wings.
@mybluebelly
Most engine parts are coming from dwindling supplies of leftover NOS parts and new parts that have to be custom-made at great expense. There isn't a supply of new engines, but new replacement high-wear parts for Merlins is profitable enough to justify manufacturing them. Rarely, a new engine can be found from a private collector but overhauling to airworthy condition is still very expensive. The German engines are much more expensive than the more plentiful Merlins.
Kinda hard to hide from the FAA registry. The three CASA 2.111s in the US are documented and do not fly. No CASA or He-111 is currently flying worldwide, although there are potential future fliers.
Oh, we did! The Focke Wulf FW200C "Condor"! But unfortunately the leaders were not interested in having a large fleet of stratetig bombers and so only a very small number of these aircrafts were built - around 260 or so...
No, it's a C.A.S.A 2111, a Spanish licensbuilt Heinkel HE 111 H, with British Rolls Royce Merlin engines.
I just checked Wikipedia: There it's stated that about 14 still exist.
Interesting(?) trivia: 32 "Heinkels" were used in "Battle of Britain", but there are less than 20 shown flying at the same time. The rest were probably not flyable and only used as "static dressing". Two of them seen in the opening airbase scene were of the transport version, lacking gun positions and with windows along the fuselage.
Exactly. The Condor was a contemporary of the DC-4.
Ichiban 7.
The spanish licens build HE 111, flew on 23 may 1945 wih Jumo 211 F engines found in France. During Civil war 1937 Franco forces recived a number of HE111B with original engines. Merlin build 111's build from 53..
I know, what a beauty of a plane
This is the Spanish version isn't it?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA_2.111
With Rolls Royce Merlin engines?
Heinkel also build a motor scooter, used to ride one in Germany.
Other than a few rare examples, historical significance and prices for the warbirds did not increase significantly until the 1980s. In the late 1960s, there would not have been much interest in the Spanish CASA 211s other than saving the Merlin engines.
@JOHNO4992 It sounds like a Mosquito because this perticular aircraft had the same engines as the Mosquito. This is actually a Casa 111, the Spanish varient of the German bomber. You can tell because the exausts outlets are higher up on the engines. The original Juno engines in a real Heinkel had to be positioned on the aircraft upside down (hense why the exausts are at the bottom on a real Heinkel). These Spanish varients actually used Rolls Royce Merlin engines!!
this is good to hear.....perhaps someday someone will build a flying stuka full scale...after all..i never thought the me 262's would be seen agains..and they build 5 of them
@crazeball89
The Allied occupation was more efficient at destroying the abandoned Luftwaffe equipment. I count 6 surviving original He-111s and about 12-13 post-war CASA-2111 versions.The largest remaining collection of CASAs was assembled for the BoB film in 1968 when the Spanish retired them. They were offered for sale, but only a few were bought and the rest were scrapped. A couple of He-111s are in long-term restorations for possible flight some day but these are slow projects.
I was served in the U.S. Navy in 1969 as a radarman on the USS Galveston. One day we were doing NATO maneuvers in the Mediterranean with ships and aircraft of the NATO nations. I was on duty on the air search radar when the radar chief told me to look for two prop driven Spanish bombers on a certain bearing. They never showed up. Later heard they both crashed into the water. It occurred to me that they may have been this type of aircraft.
A friend of mine, back in 1958, when he was a soldier flew from Sevilla to Sidi Ifni, in Morocco during our last war there. He flew a Heinkel 111 "Pedro". The plane was quite old by then, but our other military planes were americans, and America, as ever, forbade the spaniards to use our american aircraft to atac the morocco forces.
Could there be anything better than sitting in the front in this plane while fly over huge mountains and wide fields?
There are, and were He-111's that survived the war to fly.
One example was flown at Frederick 2000 Air Show complete with original markings and paint.
Google it and it should come up; I'd post the link to these great photo's but TH-cam doesn't allow links in comments.
I don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic, but either way, we didn't shoot them down like Harriers shooting down Mirages; they crashed on their own from mechanical failure.
Yes, it's not really a Heinkel He111 but a Spanish built derivative, powered by Rolls Royce Merlins.
K, and thanks very much for the clarification. For some reason I thought I had read quite a while ago that it was in an aircraft museum in Appleton(or possibly) Oshkosh, WI. Is there in fact a museum of that sort in either of those towns? Anyone interested in the Stuka should read Rudel's autobiography Stuka Pilot. Amazing pilot, amazingly skillful and as lucky as anyone could ever be(although the same might be said of Erich Hartmann) to have survived all those missions and close calls.
Still sounded great, even if not original German engines. My grandfather was a belly gunner in a Heinkel 111 during WW2. Nice looking aircraft. Shame it was destroyed.
Engine problem seem to be the cause of the crash, Witnesses said they heard a sputtering sound shortly before the twin-engine HE-111 plowed through a chain link fence and slammed into the brick structure, igniting a fire that lasted an hour, police Lt. Robert Korber said. A construction worker who was inside the building - an unfinished school bus washing facility - fled and escaped injury, said Tom Rooney of the Laramie County school district.
I used to love driving past the field in Mesa and seeing this beautiful warbird sitting there. I remember the day that it crashed killing everyone on board. She is missed! She was the last one still flying in the entire world. Sniff!
Strictly speaking no. The Fw 200 was an airliner (very beautiful plane) adapted into a bomber, more precisely an anti-shipping aircraft. It was never used as a heavy bomber in the style of the Lancaster, B-17 etc.
Should’ve keep it in museum, but never mind.
There are two complete Stuka survivors, but the one in the UK is more compete. Two or three wrecks are under rebuild, but I don't think any are for flight.
Is the second survivor possibly in a museum in Wisconsin, US? What a shame all these historic aircraft of all combatants were so casually destroyed after hostilities ceased. Most were melted down as scrap I'd assume. Makes one wonder just what the thinking back then was. No thought given to what theses might be as historic artifacts in the future. The Ju-87 if not the most famous aircraft was among the top most famous.
Now imagine seeing that over your house in England in the Summer of 1940.
@Ichiban7 They are Merlins, pistons facing up the way!
This is not a Heinkel He 111, this is a CASA 2.111B, a Spanish license version of the He 111 who was in service of the Span air force until 1975. Recognizable at the big coolers below the engine nacelles (becuase the CASA 2.111B had Rolls-Royce Merlin engines and not Daimler-Benz DB engines). They only give this plane a German paint ...
@FiveCentsPlease ok..thanks for the info i guess i will have to dig a bit deeper in the history of these spanish built types. I have heard about these casa built heinkels&HA`s a long time ago, but didn`t really know what to make of them. Also, I guess i assumed that the "proper" engines for any restoration project would be readily available from "aftermarket" suppliers, but maybe that is not the case with the german types?!