She's sacrificed her ex boyfriend, shot and killed her brother, and wiped her family's memories to ensure Kara's safety. If bringing Kara back to her side means throwing a few thousand people's souls away, Lena is willing to do it. Sweet Rao in space, Lena loves Kara.
Dude I'm sorry but this is such a weird take. This was the farthest thing from a romantic moment. If Lena had gone through with this, Kara would have been traumatized forever, and never would have forgiven Lena. Imagine poor Kara living with the guilt of knowing Lena did that. Wondering why 5 years of serving as a moral example for Lena STILL wasn't enough to teach her compassion and the value of human life. It's amazing to me they're even friends considering their moral world views are irreconcilable.
@@atr1845 I think kara would forgive Lena because she doesn’t have any powers in phantom zone and she could get killed in there but at least they brought supergirl home
@@atr1845 Oh, I didn't say it was a GOOD thing. That kind of devotion is actually unhealthy in this case, as Lena's acting not only out of love but out of guilt for HURTING the one she loves. And I'm pretty sure Alex said that Kara wouldn't want this.
i like how katie has lena react, every time alex gives her a compliment she frowns and looks down and you just know her self-loathing is still so strong that there's something inside her saying "she doesn't really mean it, she wouldn't say that if she knew what you were really like"
I will never understand why ppl still act like they just can't see it lmao like I'm so sorry for your love life your clearly blind as shit if you don't see the romantic undertones 6 seasons in. They like omggggg nooo how could you think they like each other? Bro how could you not?💀 I could see if it was 2017 but it's 2021 and y'all still act completely blind to it all my Lord
I find this interesting because....lena has made sacrifices. Plenty of them. She's always willing to do the right thing even if it hurts her. She even sacrificed Jack, she'd sacrifice herself....seems to me like she's always willing to sacrifice to do what's right. As long as it isn't Kara.
And we don't know to where the showrunner would bring the storyline bcoz at first it doesn't make sense that Lena sacrifice Jack for Supergirl, i mean jack is her ex boyfriend, they spent a good time together for years and then now.. i wonders how the endgame would be
@@alejonez6307 at first she says I have to save Kara because this its her fault. She felt guilty. That's why she HAD to save Kara. But it felt kind of like an excuse? Because deep down she knows Kara doesn't blame her no one does. Alex even said it to her. But she still is like no I can't do it. Alex had to make her. I don't think Lena and Kara would get together. But they are setting them up as if they are. It's undeniable how much they love each other. I mean letting thousands die???? No way Lena would do that for anyone but Kara
@@riaali9429 i think that if they can't make supercorp endgame, so i hope it would be agentcorp. Lol bcoz this last season they make Lena being close to Alex so who knows? 😂
Even when she was angry at Kara during season 5 she refused to sacrifice her. She chose to create tension with Andrea instead of outing Kara's identity, she had a panic attack when the Kryptonite cannons were poised to kill Kara, she could have escaped the fortress with Myriad and given an excuse that she was attacked without anyone knowing and aloud Kara to fight Rama Tut alone but made sure Kara was safe before letting Kara know what she was up to. Lena ran to Kara's apartment begging to be believed the moment she knew Lex had plans to kill Kara. Point is, no amount of anger could cause Lena to allow anyone or anything to hurt Kara, but she was willing to hurt so many others for the greater good. She trapped Eve in her own mind so that her AI could use Eve's body. She trapped Jon's brother to use his power so that she could control people. She threatened to have Andrea's boyfriend kill himself to get the medallion and then let go unprotected knowing he would be killed and yet, never let anyone hurt Kara no matter how angry she was at her. Yeah that is some "friendship". Lol
Lena was willing to die to save the city from the chemical spill, but she’s willing to sacrifice the entire world to get Kara back. *just bestie vibes*
I hate that the writers made Lena saving Kara be about her guilt. Is it so hard to believe that Lena will sacrifice hundreds of thousands of people just to save Kara because she loves her and not because shes feeling guilty? 😤
Keep hoping Mon El is back for his girl 😂😂😂😂😂 I said it since season 3 nothing will happen between them they're just bestfriends but you people kept fooling yourselves about (Supercorp bullshit)now Mon El came to wake you up. Lena would be good with Alex or she could find new boyfriend..
I simply assumed that it's BOTH. She has done shady things to protect those she loves, and whether you ship them or not, she clearly loves Kara in SOME way.
I honestly agree with Lena that she doesn't belong on the team after she betrayed Kara, tried to brainwash humanity and sided with Lex against her former friends. I think she wouldn't have even gone back to being Kara's friend if Project Non Noncere hadn't backfired and worked perfectly like she wanted it to in the first place
Do you think we will see Supergirl going to the future and meet the rest of the Legion of superheroes also do you think we will see her dating Lightning Lad in this show?
The betrayal to Kara is Alex dated her best friend, the one friend she really chose for herself, would be incredible. Chyler actually pitched the idea of Lena and Alex and Katie McGrath shot that idea down cold. Katie said Lena didn't have many friends and she wouldn't jeopardize the most important friendship she had by dating her sister. Melissa said that if Alex took Lena, Kara would pull away from them both. That idea for shot down real fast lol.
@Ldog113 but yeah, Chyler did a Webcam interview with the actress that played Kelly and she said before Kelly officially joined the show, while Alex had her mind wiped in season 4, she proposed Lena and Alex kiss, since they had started getting very close and both were feeling angry at Supergirl and were being avoided by Kara (for different reasons of course). But according to Chyler Katie said the fans would turn on both Alex and Lena if they did that too Kara and lena would not do that to Kara. Chyler said Melissa had said the instead of being angry, Kara would try and let them both be happy and just distance herself further, which Chyler said she actually agreed with so dropped it lol
@@ryanabate1981 makes sense in context. I understand the effect on fans, but as the show played out and with their overall characters, it might have made for a stronger more interesting dynamic
@Ldog113 I felt like while Alex had her memories wiped, yes her and Lena clicked. Lena was never xenophobic exactly, but she did want humans to be better. Alex on the other hand was a little xenophobic and both had issues with Aliens having powers. But once Alex got her memories back, I just don't see her and Lena like that. I always felt like Alex saw a dark part of herself in Lena and resented her for that. Let's not forget Alex actually tried to kill Lena with Claymore to stop her from using Myriad until Kara stopped her. Alex never really trusted Lena until season 6 but by that point Kara and Lena had gone through so much just to get their friendship back, no way would she rock that boat. But let's look at them as girlfriend's, let's say it happened. Doomed relationship in my opinion. They both are very physical women, so the intimacy part wouldn't be an issue, but they suck at emotions. They would both bottle it up until one of them exploded on the other. Alex needed a Kelly, Lena needed a Sam or Kara. They needed partners who could balance them out lol
This was frustrating to watch. This was NOT a hard choice. Painful, yes, but not hard. Or at least it shouldn't have been, but apparently was for Lena. Good thing Alex didn't trust her to do the right thing. Bc it looks like 5 years of being around Kara haven't been enough to inspire Lena to finally become a decent human being, one who wouldn't even consider letting innocent people die just to assuage her guilt sooner. (Also, it begs the question... Why wouldn't have Lena felt guilty about letting those people die? WTF?)
I don't think she thought about it that much. Alex throw that on her and didn't get her time to even process it. But i am sure she would have done the right thing if Alex let her some time.
@@myriam.b5693 I honestly don't think she would have. She has a VERY long track record of not thinking through the inevitable moral consequences of her actions, even when she's straight up told what those will be (like when James warned her the government would weaponize her work, which was already frankly a moral dumpster fire, and yet she went ahead and did it anyway). And she judges the rightness of her acts after the fact, depending on whether the outcome was good or bad. She's never really understood the objectivity of ethics: that actions are either right or wrong independent of the outcome. Nor does she grasp that many of her choices were inherently immoral, just like she still doesn't get that her plan to mass-violate humanity was evil. She talked about it in court as a good thing that lex corrupted, omitting the part where she was trying to inflict it upon the world without their consent. Same with her murdering him. In retrospect she told Brainy killing lex was a bad thing bc it didn't lead to the outcome she wanted, not because, you know, MURDER IS WRONG. So when she said to Alex afterwards that she was right, it's because the outcome was good and they successfully saved people. But even if they'd failed, it STILL would have been the right thing to do. What Kara would have wanted them to do. It's amazing that after all these years of friendship with Kara, Lena still can't understand these basics. I can't believe I'm still rooting for this character to finally achieve bare minimum humanity.
@@atr1845 I guess it has something to do with her upbringing. She was raised as a Luthor after all. And even with bitterness to say this, they are inherently selfish. Look at Lillian and Lex. Lillian doesn't have the megalomaniac ideology of Lex but she still does things just because she feels it will give her her son back. Maybe it's a matter of priority. For people like Kara and Alex who grew up with parents with jobs who basically service the humanity and then dive into that themselves, it's easy to push through selfishness and go back to their roots that is to save humans. But for Lena who grew up with selfishness disguised as concern and lacking of people she can love fully and return those (and show it in a healthy way) it's harder to put a society who have done nothing but shames and punish her for her last name before Kara who have shown her what love can looks like. I don't doubt that she believes in saving humanity. In fact, her revenge project were built because she thinks it could save humanity from a world of pain. But from what I've seen, when the choice is between humanity and her loved ones, that selfishness have always won
Does part of your anger have something to do with the fact that Alex(and by extension, the writers) still keeps insisting that Lena's a good person who belongs on the team?
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She's sacrificed her ex boyfriend, shot and killed her brother, and wiped her family's memories to ensure Kara's safety. If bringing Kara back to her side means throwing a few thousand people's souls away, Lena is willing to do it.
Sweet Rao in space, Lena loves Kara.
yes...yes...yes!!! supercorp endgame
Dude I'm sorry but this is such a weird take. This was the farthest thing from a romantic moment. If Lena had gone through with this, Kara would have been traumatized forever, and never would have forgiven Lena. Imagine poor Kara living with the guilt of knowing Lena did that. Wondering why 5 years of serving as a moral example for Lena STILL wasn't enough to teach her compassion and the value of human life. It's amazing to me they're even friends considering their moral world views are irreconcilable.
Right
@@atr1845 I think kara would forgive Lena because she doesn’t have any powers in phantom zone and she could get killed in there but at least they brought supergirl home
@@atr1845 Oh, I didn't say it was a GOOD thing. That kind of devotion is actually unhealthy in this case, as Lena's acting not only out of love but out of guilt for HURTING the one she loves. And I'm pretty sure Alex said that Kara wouldn't want this.
i like how katie has lena react, every time alex gives her a compliment she frowns and looks down and you just know her self-loathing is still so strong that there's something inside her saying "she doesn't really mean it, she wouldn't say that if she knew what you were really like"
Shes so obviously in love with Kara.
When are you annoying Supercorp shippers gonna get it through your head? They are straight girls who are just besties.
@@spideyfan1278 LMAOO they’re gay as hell
@@hellfire4you karas straight
I will never understand why ppl still act like they just can't see it lmao like I'm so sorry for your love life your clearly blind as shit if you don't see the romantic undertones 6 seasons in. They like omggggg nooo how could you think they like each other? Bro how could you not?💀 I could see if it was 2017 but it's 2021 and y'all still act completely blind to it all my Lord
@@spideyfan1278 Tbh they could be bi. Although I still doubt the writers would ever make supercorp canon
I find this interesting because....lena has made sacrifices. Plenty of them. She's always willing to do the right thing even if it hurts her. She even sacrificed Jack, she'd sacrifice herself....seems to me like she's always willing to sacrifice to do what's right. As long as it isn't Kara.
And we don't know to where the showrunner would bring the storyline bcoz at first it doesn't make sense that Lena sacrifice Jack for Supergirl, i mean jack is her ex boyfriend, they spent a good time together for years and then now.. i wonders how the endgame would be
@@alejonez6307 at first she says I have to save Kara because this its her fault. She felt guilty. That's why she HAD to save Kara. But it felt kind of like an excuse? Because deep down she knows Kara doesn't blame her no one does. Alex even said it to her. But she still is like no I can't do it. Alex had to make her. I don't think Lena and Kara would get together. But they are setting them up as if they are. It's undeniable how much they love each other. I mean letting thousands die???? No way Lena would do that for anyone but Kara
@@riaali9429 i think that if they can't make supercorp endgame, so i hope it would be agentcorp. Lol bcoz this last season they make Lena being close to Alex so who knows? 😂
Even when she was angry at Kara during season 5 she refused to sacrifice her. She chose to create tension with Andrea instead of outing Kara's identity, she had a panic attack when the Kryptonite cannons were poised to kill Kara, she could have escaped the fortress with Myriad and given an excuse that she was attacked without anyone knowing and aloud Kara to fight Rama Tut alone but made sure Kara was safe before letting Kara know what she was up to. Lena ran to Kara's apartment begging to be believed the moment she knew Lex had plans to kill Kara. Point is, no amount of anger could cause Lena to allow anyone or anything to hurt Kara, but she was willing to hurt so many others for the greater good. She trapped Eve in her own mind so that her AI could use Eve's body. She trapped Jon's brother to use his power so that she could control people. She threatened to have Andrea's boyfriend kill himself to get the medallion and then let go unprotected knowing he would be killed and yet, never let anyone hurt Kara no matter how angry she was at her. Yeah that is some "friendship". Lol
Lena was willing to die to save the city from the chemical spill, but she’s willing to sacrifice the entire world to get Kara back. *just bestie vibes*
Also Alex volunteering to be the elder sister to lena is..so lovely to see..
I love this comment !!!! 😊
Alex needed someone to be the big sister to, and Lena gave her the perfect opportunity.
A+ scene, Alex is a badass and Lena Luthor deserves the world.
Lena is such a heart now, I thing everybody have to love her now...
I hate that the writers made Lena saving Kara be about her guilt. Is it so hard to believe that Lena will sacrifice hundreds of thousands of people just to save Kara because she loves her and not because shes feeling guilty? 😤
anything but gayness for them
Keep hoping Mon El is back for his girl 😂😂😂😂😂 I said it since season 3 nothing will happen between them they're just bestfriends but you people kept fooling yourselves about (Supercorp bullshit)now Mon El came to wake you up. Lena would be good with Alex or she could find new boyfriend..
@@truthhurts8145 yawn 😪
I simply assumed that it's BOTH. She has done shady things to protect those she loves, and whether you ship them or not, she clearly loves Kara in SOME way.
@@avatrice3077 well he's not lying he's is coming back for kara
dammit i don't know how to say it.
but i love high ponytail katie.. so cool.. so strong..so fierce.. so gay
I like Lena and I like that Lena will dead for the world but she will not give up Kara at all
Lex and lena luthor/bad and good/wow wow😀😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
ngl im confused to why this episode is 38 min long
Katie McGrath Lena Luthor is a Hero .
Except in season 5 when she was a villain
She is beyond gorgeous too
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I honestly agree with Lena that she doesn't belong on the team after she betrayed Kara, tried to brainwash humanity and sided with Lex against her former friends. I think she wouldn't have even gone back to being Kara's friend if Project Non Noncere hadn't backfired and worked perfectly like she wanted it to in the first place
Do you think we will see Supergirl going to the future and meet the rest of the Legion of superheroes also do you think we will see her dating Lightning Lad in this show?
Kinda feel like these two should have dated, in the end
The betrayal to Kara is Alex dated her best friend, the one friend she really chose for herself, would be incredible. Chyler actually pitched the idea of Lena and Alex and Katie McGrath shot that idea down cold. Katie said Lena didn't have many friends and she wouldn't jeopardize the most important friendship she had by dating her sister. Melissa said that if Alex took Lena, Kara would pull away from them both. That idea for shot down real fast lol.
@@ryanabate1981 boooooo lol! Poor Chyler
@Ldog113 but yeah, Chyler did a Webcam interview with the actress that played Kelly and she said before Kelly officially joined the show, while Alex had her mind wiped in season 4, she proposed Lena and Alex kiss, since they had started getting very close and both were feeling angry at Supergirl and were being avoided by Kara (for different reasons of course). But according to Chyler Katie said the fans would turn on both Alex and Lena if they did that too Kara and lena would not do that to Kara. Chyler said Melissa had said the instead of being angry, Kara would try and let them both be happy and just distance herself further, which Chyler said she actually agreed with so dropped it lol
@@ryanabate1981 makes sense in context. I understand the effect on fans, but as the show played out and with their overall characters, it might have made for a stronger more interesting dynamic
@Ldog113 I felt like while Alex had her memories wiped, yes her and Lena clicked. Lena was never xenophobic exactly, but she did want humans to be better. Alex on the other hand was a little xenophobic and both had issues with Aliens having powers. But once Alex got her memories back, I just don't see her and Lena like that. I always felt like Alex saw a dark part of herself in Lena and resented her for that. Let's not forget Alex actually tried to kill Lena with Claymore to stop her from using Myriad until Kara stopped her. Alex never really trusted Lena until season 6 but by that point Kara and Lena had gone through so much just to get their friendship back, no way would she rock that boat.
But let's look at them as girlfriend's, let's say it happened. Doomed relationship in my opinion. They both are very physical women, so the intimacy part wouldn't be an issue, but they suck at emotions. They would both bottle it up until one of them exploded on the other. Alex needed a Kelly, Lena needed a Sam or Kara. They needed partners who could balance them out lol
This was frustrating to watch. This was NOT a hard choice. Painful, yes, but not hard. Or at least it shouldn't have been, but apparently was for Lena. Good thing Alex didn't trust her to do the right thing. Bc it looks like 5 years of being around Kara haven't been enough to inspire Lena to finally become a decent human being, one who wouldn't even consider letting innocent people die just to assuage her guilt sooner. (Also, it begs the question... Why wouldn't have Lena felt guilty about letting those people die? WTF?)
I don't think she thought about it that much. Alex throw that on her and didn't get her time to even process it. But i am sure she would have done the right thing if Alex let her some time.
@@myriam.b5693 I honestly don't think she would have. She has a VERY long track record of not thinking through the inevitable moral consequences of her actions, even when she's straight up told what those will be (like when James warned her the government would weaponize her work, which was already frankly a moral dumpster fire, and yet she went ahead and did it anyway). And she judges the rightness of her acts after the fact, depending on whether the outcome was good or bad. She's never really understood the objectivity of ethics: that actions are either right or wrong independent of the outcome. Nor does she grasp that many of her choices were inherently immoral, just like she still doesn't get that her plan to mass-violate humanity was evil. She talked about it in court as a good thing that lex corrupted, omitting the part where she was trying to inflict it upon the world without their consent. Same with her murdering him. In retrospect she told Brainy killing lex was a bad thing bc it didn't lead to the outcome she wanted, not because, you know, MURDER IS WRONG.
So when she said to Alex afterwards that she was right, it's because the outcome was good and they successfully saved people. But even if they'd failed, it STILL would have been the right thing to do. What Kara would have wanted them to do. It's amazing that after all these years of friendship with Kara, Lena still can't understand these basics. I can't believe I'm still rooting for this character to finally achieve bare minimum humanity.
@@atr1845 I guess it has something to do with her upbringing. She was raised as a Luthor after all. And even with bitterness to say this, they are inherently selfish. Look at Lillian and Lex. Lillian doesn't have the megalomaniac ideology of Lex but she still does things just because she feels it will give her her son back. Maybe it's a matter of priority. For people like Kara and Alex who grew up with parents with jobs who basically service the humanity and then dive into that themselves, it's easy to push through selfishness and go back to their roots that is to save humans. But for Lena who grew up with selfishness disguised as concern and lacking of people she can love fully and return those (and show it in a healthy way) it's harder to put a society who have done nothing but shames and punish her for her last name before Kara who have shown her what love can looks like.
I don't doubt that she believes in saving humanity. In fact, her revenge project were built because she thinks it could save humanity from a world of pain. But from what I've seen, when the choice is between humanity and her loved ones, that selfishness have always won
@@atr1845 TLDR: Lena needs a lot of therapy and needs to learn how to get her priority straight
Does part of your anger have something to do with the fact that Alex(and by extension, the writers) still keeps insisting that Lena's a good person who belongs on the team?