Thank you! As far as deadhead, we normally see it at 7% - 10% of loaded miles and we do keep track of all deadhead on all loads. However I'd have to look at each driver in this list individually for exact figures. In the past we showed these figures in our videos but it makes the videos way too long. Very often extra deadhead only helps you with a higher average as you enter better markets or enter bad ones for more money, knowing that you'll exit empty. It's all in the approach, the strategy, and market conditions. Thanks again and sorry I don't have a better answer for you.
Easy, give me a call on Monday. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 or go to aftdispatch.com/go/ and pick the option that's right for you, then fill out the short form and I'll call you on Monday. Thanks for your interest. - Vitaliy
Takes 1 extra line on the recap. Your just hiding that mileage because it is a major downside to the industry. That's not yall fault but be honest with us.
It definitely matters but as I've replied to other comments on this topic, we used to show empty miles but the videos became too long. We do keep track of deadhead on every load and I'd have to go back to each one of these drivers and pull each load for the specific week out of everyone in the fleet. What we normally see is approximately 7% - 10% of total loaded miles being deadhead. I hope this helps.
@@AFTDispatchthere's a VERY high chance that during this market where freight is more difficult to find, they're running a lot more empty miles than they usually would. That RPM will be quite a bit less so just analyzing loaded miles only does not paint an accurate picture considering your expenses are basically the same whether you're empty or loaded
Indeed, the trucking industry is experiencing a period of transformation. While some big companies are facing challenges, it's encouraging to see smaller businesses stepping up to fill the gaps. This dynamic shift could bring about new opportunities and a fresh perspective to the industry. Change often paves the way for innovation. Let's stay tuned to how these shifts continue to shape the landscape.
Great video. I manage a trucking company up here in Alberta, Canada. Freight rates have dropped hard. To go 900 miles I need to make at least $4000 on it or it doesnt cover costs. Fuel is especially bad up here along with the added carbon tax. I cannot for the life of me find a way to maximize profits any more than I have already without getting rid of our drivers and rehiring at a lower wage, which is absurd. I really hope things turn around sooner than later, for now just need to keep holding on and pray I dont need to do more than 1 inframe a year lol.
I hate that term... "per loaded mile" Figure it at per running mile. Expenses don't stop running empty. I avrage 2.90-3.90 a running mile and most of my miles are unloaded!!!
It's not possible to know individual expenses when you're running dispatch for carriers operating under their own MC and owner operators who have differing expenses. It's very easy for a specific company to look at their expenses and calculate costs but there is no way for us to figure this out.
Thank you very much! Come back weekly for more such videos and I just published one about an hour ago which goes into great detail about what's actually happening in today's freight markets by providing on-screen charts showing the steep rise in new authorities and small carriers adding more and more trucks into the industry.
I bet the downturn lasts a lot longer than anyone thinks. We just went through a period during this pandemic that has never happened before in modern times. We insurance continuing to climb and fuel going up as well it ain’t going to take much longer to push the vast majority of the marginal carriers out of business.
Appreciate your insights on the situation. Indeed, these are challenging times with various factors impacting the industry. Your thoughts contribute to the ongoing discussion about the future of the trucking landscape. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
So there is zero chance of downturn going away with our current political climate. After next election may start to change or could get worse. I am guessing the latter. Going to get ugly minimum of 2 years.
DAT IS A FARCE. My next load is 941 miles $5326, 12,000 lbs. I'm leased to a private company. If your running off load boards, you need to park your trucks. After brokers fee your truck better be getting $3.50 per mile. if fuel goes up again next week then the rate should go up again.
Every carrier and owner operator has different operating costs. I have customers who's operating costs are right around a dollar per mile, while there are others who are over $3. One will be profitable, the other will likely go out of business.
44k pounds and 45k really hard on the truck…. If you’re company like myself who cares but if I was an owner operator I’d be biting my nails ….. Especially dealing with steep mountain grades 😮
Just curious, what’s the issue running 44k? Is it poor engineering/vehicle quality? Or just higher maintenance? Outside the US lots of countries run higher loads over steep grades and terrain with minimal issue at all..
@@adamtonkin3800 As a former mechanic running super heavy loads wears on everything from the tires to the transmission and engine….. I’ve blown radiators and many tires with loads over 40k
@preppertrucker5736 People seem to forget that these very trucks were built to haul a whole lot more and that the 80k GVW is only a Federal limitation. Water trucks in the oil fields routinely haul over 300k Lbs. basically off-road. Yes, it beats the trucks up badly but let's not forget that there's a difference of over 250k in weight here.
@adamtonkin3800 most of those trucks outside the U.S. also manage to do so with one less axle. These trucks are made to pull heavy and many people say things out of sheer conditioning. Will they burn more fuel at 44k going through mountains? Absolutely but you have to look at the markets as well. Much better to take a heavy load from a bad market to a good market for decent money than to take a light load coming from a bad market and go into a worse market but then sit there happy knowing that while there's no freight for miles around, at least you saved some fuel and your truck is in better shape. Your truck is your tool, keep it maintained and you'll be fine.
Well, we're also consumers. I think if more truckers set aside funds from when it was a good market, knowing that bad times are coming, we'd be in a different place entirely. Unfortunately what I saw over the years is that if a trucker makes $10k a week, they find a way to spend $10k a week. Just as I've said in another reply, when the market was booming, no one complained, when the market turned, every trucker blamed brokers. How does that work exactly? I feel if more truckers would take personal responsibility for their errors, and made business plans, and took care of their finances, we'd all be much better off.
@@AFTDispatch I see that a lot even with close friends in the industry. I bought a new trailer the 1st of last year and it's going to be paid off by December. It's taking a lot to get it done but I'm putting any extra money towards it and saving the rest then it's nothing but gravy from there. I was one of those guys that spent what I made, now I Invest and save it all I don't spend a penny on anything frivolous anymore. It's time to batten the hatches because it's going to get a lot worse.
There's no way for us to know their operating costs considering none of these drivers are our company drivers. Each owner operator has a different setup and different fuel economy. Same goes for carriers with their own MC. Only they know where their costs lay. I have one carrier in particular who takes home 50% of gross so in this case he'd walk away with $4k after diesel and all other expenses. It varies.
So they're not running up under your dot number? If they are running up under your dot number using your fuel cards and your plates. What are all of the deductions included insurance, etc; or are you all only brokers. by the look of things? Yeah, I'll tracking miles as well.
I'd park it at those rates. I run my truck locally and gross $1300-$1500 per day every day and only spending between $150-$175 per day in fuel and I'm home every night.
Your comment is one of the main reasons why I published today's video about two hours ago. Please take a look. th-cam.com/video/rJEQAB8r2sQ/w-d-xo.html
@@AFTDispatch , There is a rate and not a freight problem. There is a problem with drivers. Typical driver is an idiot. There would be no “low” rates if driver was not an idiot. As of today, 2023, driver on w2 and at 40 hrs per week should have annual pay range of $135-$180k, adjusted for inflation since 1960. Truckers are so stupid that electricians, plumbers, pilots, rail engineer and even HVAC employees have passed a typical CDL driver’s salary, hourly rate wise and also brain capacity,and ability to think, wise. So,there is your answer; typical driver is an idiot and that is based on historic and current data. Change my mind by getting driver’s annual salary on 40 hours per week to where it should be, $125-$180k. Until this happens, majority of CDL drivers are stupid.
It all depends on whether they're a leased on owner operator or a carriers operating under their own MC authority. Those strictly under dispatch pay a flat rate of 7%
At a2c logistics what are your weekly deductions for plates. Bobtail, occ, everything else peace. I'm hearing good things about a2c logistics i pull flatbed I'm from md.
Sounds great Troy, glad to hear it. I'd love to speak with you and get you connected with Kevin so you two can go over everything since costs vary based on a few different variables, namely plates and if you bring your own trailer or not. We have a couple of different approaches which might work better for you. Let's talk when you're available. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
There are definitely more semi trucks out there than LTL and HotShots. I would recommend watching the latest video I uploaded about an hour ago. It goes into great detail about all of this and clearly shows the steep rise in new authorities and small carriers adding more and more trucks into the industry.
I totally believe that if pay rates declines at .50 cents per mile, many truckers will still be rolling the wheels . Use your cash savings! And max out your credit card and keep trucking!
What will happen if we refuse all the loads are in the load board is not offering any profit to owner,I need 82 cents in fuel,10cents on insurance and 60 cents in driver pay=$1.52 per mile,tell me how can you roll even if you are driving your un truck, I am not including truck payment (0.25) and trailer rent (0.15), tell me your Haynes how can you still going??? Are we a magician?the math doesn’t lie.I let this question is this a right time to leave the industry and go home to do anything else?
Thanks for the info. But from a driver on the road who owns his truck. Fuel costs dollar a mile now days. With a 40k load or higher, so if $7,642 is gross fuel out is about 4500. Multiply that by 4 is about 18k A month. Subtract that with ur bills for the truck 1800 insurance 500 truck parking.2500 truck payment, 1000 trailer, 800 oil,1000 tires,(18 tires usually two get changed a month if running every week). That’s about 6500, so total after expense 11500. U say that’s good money right. Well that’s if ur truck is Optimus prime. Kuz trucks can break down 1000 dollars is something simple and go shoot up too 50, thousand dollars. So as owner you need too save money for rainy day, well u can because when u subtract your family’s living expenses there’s really nothing left mortgage cars clothes phones food. Left with maybe 3000 dollars and you need that too fuel and go out again
You're absolutely right in that the costs are there and are very high, no doubt about it. The issue is that many truckers made a ton of money during the booming market and yet 99% of them spent it all. Didn't save a dime. During that time, we never heard anyone complain about brokers or things being unfair. As soon as the market changed, this is when all the crying began. No one wants to take responsibility for anything anymore. When things are good, they're good, when they're bad, it's someone else's fault. I hear you though. Costs are astronomical.
@@AFTDispatch yes brother I saved. Lol but it’s been 2 years we didn’t make a million dollars I’ll true with you I grossed 400 k 2021 team driving with my father. Was able too save 100k. Now Iam in debt 87k. 100k lasted me through 2022 but 2023 is rack up another 100k I don’t have. If my truck breaks down it’s game over at this point.
@@AFTDispatchwhen you average it out you never make any " good money". In the "good times" you are barely able to catch up with piled up bills in the " bad times". It is a vicious cycle, in which in the long run you are working for peanuts.
Them rates are too low, you need a minimum of $3.50 per mile or better with the fuel cost these days, hope they're not deadheading too many empty miles.
You're absolutely right, the combination of empty miles and rising fuel costs in the pickup area can significantly impact the profitability of trucking operations. It's a crucial aspect to consider in these challenging times. Your insights are appreciated.
Who started to add a dispatcher fee? Do you really think that a small segment of the industry (dispatchers) who charge either a flat fee or rates between 3% - 10% of gross is what drove the rates down? If anything, increased rates would show up in higher averages.
1) The pandemic fueled a massive wave of lay-offs. 2) Newly unemployed people bought renovations with severance pay. Lumber prices spiked upwards but only for a while. 3) There is no work-from-home phenomenon. That's just gaslighting from financial and political media. 4) Labor participation has dramatically dropped off. 5) People are staying in 'early retirement' mode. Or migrating to second and third-world countries to do a cheaper walkabout. Where their USD savings has more buying power. 6) Travel and leisure industry is still nominal. This is due to a continual and massive exodus of North American citizens. 7) Lockdowns and mask mandates are, once again, on the horizon. 8) Corporations used the pandemic to shed deadweight and simmering 'metoo' lawsuits. 9) The unemployment rate has been defrauded for political optics. it's not just 3.5%. It's much higher.
The weight 45k 44k can't take those too much wear and tear on truck and tires everything is expensive now plus down time for the truck I'd prefer light loads heavy isn't worth it for me personally
You really have to look at the whole picture. Sometimes a 44k load takes you from a bad market to a good market and even pays well. Too many people refuse it, take a cheap load and go to a worse market for bad money and then wonder what happened when their truck still breaks.
Your comment is one of the main reasons why I published today's video about two hours ago. Please take a look. th-cam.com/video/rJEQAB8r2sQ/w-d-xo.html
I don't have that info but the latest news of their drivers making $170k/yr isn't completely true because of the way those numbers were put together. Those are all company drivers too.
thank you for your time and knowledge,,,,,,} to inform people with little knowledge no non-legal immigrant can have the privilege of a CDL and everyone in this country our roots are from immigrants
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. You're absolutely right, the trucking industry, like much of the country, has its roots in the contributions of immigrants. Your insight sheds light on an important aspect of the industry's history.
Hi Troy, we don't run Conestogas. We generally run vans, reefers, and flatbeds. We can handle a step deck here and there too but don't work with Conestoga. Let's talk some time, direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
@dymonshavlak5488 , @chrisdelgado6915 - we have rate cons on hand, credit checked brokers. I do agree, the guys did a great job dispatching these loads. $2.38 going in, $2.47 coming out.
@@chrisdelgado6915it might be true but just happen one time so of course they're going to use their best numbers. Everyone inflates their rates or truck count to try and impress strangers apparently. Let's face it, there are many ppl watching this video who are constantly booking cheap freight because they have no other option but they aren't going to advertise that. We all book cheap freight at one point or another but it shouldn't be your entire operation. It should be only at times when needed to supplement your bread n butter freight. The ones that entered the business just recently during the pandemic gold rush are the ones now booking every single load off DAT and hoping/praying they'll magically make money in the end of it. There is no get rich quick industry including trucking. If you've been around a while then you should have been doing great the past few years and are able to weather the storm now until it cycles back up. Trucking runs in cycles, it doesn't always stay hot but you make as much as possible when it's hot and get through the slower times in anticipation for the busy time again. This is where long term relationships are key for sustainability. If you're only chasing the spot market then I doubt you last very long. We serviced ALL our dedicated customers without extorting more money out of them during the gold rush and a good portion of them are returning that favor now when we need it. Be strategic and think long term, it works
To many slaves piled in a truck parked in the fuel island and not using common courtesy. I still see just as many trucks running up and down the interstate. But when I look over it's more then likely a foreigner. RIP to Trucking being a lucrative career.
Y’all need us here. I’m Mexican, I forced myself in here. But Americans let people from all over the world come legally and those are the people taking the good American jobs. The illegal immigrants take the most labor intense jobs that Americans don’t want
Respecting fellow truckers and maintaining proper etiquette on the road is crucial for a healthy industry. It's true that the trucking landscape is evolving, but there are still opportunities out there.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. Immigration is a complex issue with various viewpoints. It's important for the industry to find a balance that ensures fair opportunities for everyone while addressing the labor needs.
Slaves, lol. There are more Americans from economically depressed areas willing to work for pennies. That's who they're flooding the market with. Check that out the next time you fuel.
This country is bankrupt and headed for a depression that will make 1929 look like. Bull Market. The current downturn in the trucking industry is just an early indicator of what’s coming economy wide.
Absolutely, your concern is valid. The economic landscape is undoubtedly facing challenges, and the current downturn in the trucking industry does highlight some broader trends. The intricacies of the freight industry often serve as early indicators of larger economic shifts. As we navigate these uncertain times, it's essential to stay informed and prepared for potential changes ahead.
You obviously don't know anything about economics, you can't even provide proof of that. You don't even know the difference between a depression and a recession when we aren't heading towards either. 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for stopping in and explaining it @abrax23 Many of our guys choose to run through the weekend. Some run on recaps. @cesargonzales5459 and @ShaneAcimov
Fmcsa needs to make it illegal for Mexico and Canadian carriers not allowed to enter past border cities and not open terminals in the states. This is killing the industry
Why would anyone want to drive trucks anymore anyway? You have so many different agencies actively working against you including your own employer! Not to mention traffic isn't getting any better and all of the people that are trying to get an easy Buck see you as a Target
You're just not going to make enough running OTR for a week. I would suggest looking for a regional company and trying to get a company driver with them. Sometimes it works out very well. If you have your own MC, we can dispatch you like you want but we'd need to make sure and go over some ground rules because it'll be very hard for you to make ends meet. Let's talk if of interest, my direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
We get the info off the rate cons and you know how wonderfully descriptive they can be hahaha. I knew it had to be pinto beans but the broker had other ideas. Pintos 😂
Never end. Did you forget that the rates are actually right about where they have been for many years other than the covid blip. Too many under educated people who convince themselves you can move a truck for 2 bucks a mile. The cycle continues and will go on for ever. Stop crying. Learn to live with it and beca part of the fight to outbid each other or get out.
No one's crying mac. I'm doing quite well, have done well for over a decade now. Many of my customers are doing well too. The issue is elevated costs and fuel but I think you know that.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. The challenges faced by the flatbed segment in this economic climate are definitely worth considering. Your input adds to the conversation.
Let's not forget that everyone's expenses and operating costs are different. I'm sorry if you only net $650 out of $8k. Call me and we can see if there are areas that can be improved. (801) 447-6929 is my direct line. Here to help.
What's all the big companies closing your doors? This is a great opportunity for the small companies and for people who want to take a chance on building. A company I consider this a rebuilding stage in the industry the 20th century ways of doing trucking. Look at yellow corporation. They continue to do what they did in the past and now they're out of business prime trucking laying off 8000 workers Tyson foods letting go. 3000 workers so what we have to do in is industry. Is learn? From. The? Past but also realize that the only consident universes change let's try to incorporate what has worked in the past but also if a company can be non. Union yet do things like. Better health care better wages for their drivers because obviously the federal government. Isn't going to do anything for us? We have to do it and of that means we have to negotiate with the brokers to raise the rates because where the ones that are paced to face. With them or in this case phone call to phone call? Let's have the 21st century B once again made an America. But more importantly that we either one's there considered the backbone of this country.
You raise some important points about the evolving nature of the trucking industry and the challenges that both large and small companies are facing. Adapting to changes and learning from past mistakes is crucial for the industry's sustainability. It's true that the industry's success depends on a balance between tradition and innovation. As you've highlighted, better wages, working conditions, and negotiation with brokers are important steps towards creating a stronger and more sustainable trucking ecosystem. Your insights about the trucking industry being the backbone of the nation are appreciated. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Americans are clueless about whats happening to their trucking industry. It happened in canada years ago, there is nothing you can do to stop it. Unless you are willing to go months without pay, drive in teams for peanuts, there will be no future for you in trucking. Youll see
Oh ok, so we help our customers make and keep more of their money. I have customers who've been with us for YEARS who couldn't make it and are incredibly grateful for our dispatchers and our service. Clearly you know it all though. Great attitude.
I could be because there are less spots than trucks on the road. I think you may be conflating the number of drivers with the number of truck parking spots which have no correlation. With that said, we'll have a video coming out today about this. Be sure you're subscribed and have the notification bell on because this should be an interesting one and might just answer some of your questions.
Absolutely, diversification in the trucking industry is key. Specialized hauling brings unique opportunities and can set you apart from the crowd. Keep up the good work, and thank you for sharing your perspective!
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Thank you for all the information
How Many empty miles do you average?
What the percentage
Thank you! As far as deadhead, we normally see it at 7% - 10% of loaded miles and we do keep track of all deadhead on all loads. However I'd have to look at each driver in this list individually for exact figures. In the past we showed these figures in our videos but it makes the videos way too long. Very often extra deadhead only helps you with a higher average as you enter better markets or enter bad ones for more money, knowing that you'll exit empty. It's all in the approach, the strategy, and market conditions. Thanks again and sorry I don't have a better answer for you.
Appreciate the response.
How can I get ahold of you to get more information?
Easy, give me a call on Monday. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 or go to aftdispatch.com/go/ and pick the option that's right for you, then fill out the short form and I'll call you on Monday. Thanks for your interest. - Vitaliy
Takes 1 extra line on the recap. Your just hiding that mileage because it is a major downside to the industry. That's not yall fault but be honest with us.
You can take 11K a month
I'd like to see you add in the empty mileage also because it matters
It definitely matters but as I've replied to other comments on this topic, we used to show empty miles but the videos became too long. We do keep track of deadhead on every load and I'd have to go back to each one of these drivers and pull each load for the specific week out of everyone in the fleet. What we normally see is approximately 7% - 10% of total loaded miles being deadhead. I hope this helps.
Definitely does
I smell BS it’s way higher then that now with so many shippers as well either cutting down their cargo or closing doors
@@AFTDispatchthere's a VERY high chance that during this market where freight is more difficult to find, they're running a lot more empty miles than they usually would. That RPM will be quite a bit less so just analyzing loaded miles only does not paint an accurate picture considering your expenses are basically the same whether you're empty or loaded
Big companies are shutting down, small ones are popping up😮
Indeed, the trucking industry is experiencing a period of transformation. While some big companies are facing challenges, it's encouraging to see smaller businesses stepping up to fill the gaps. This dynamic shift could bring about new opportunities and a fresh perspective to the industry. Change often paves the way for innovation. Let's stay tuned to how these shifts continue to shape the landscape.
Great video. I manage a trucking company up here in Alberta, Canada. Freight rates have dropped hard. To go 900 miles I need to make at least $4000 on it or it doesnt cover costs. Fuel is especially bad up here along with the added carbon tax. I cannot for the life of me find a way to maximize profits any more than I have already without getting rid of our drivers and rehiring at a lower wage, which is absurd. I really hope things turn around sooner than later, for now just need to keep holding on and pray I dont need to do more than 1 inframe a year lol.
I hate that term... "per loaded mile"
Figure it at per running mile. Expenses don't stop running empty.
I avrage 2.90-3.90 a running mile and most of my miles are unloaded!!!
It's not possible to know individual expenses when you're running dispatch for carriers operating under their own MC and owner operators who have differing expenses. It's very easy for a specific company to look at their expenses and calculate costs but there is no way for us to figure this out.
Dry reefer or flatbed
Thanks for your sacrafice, get well 🙏🏿
No trouble whatsoever. Thanks for stopping every week.
Good video, thanks for the transparency on the rates. Good info,
Thank you very much! Come back weekly for more such videos and I just published one about an hour ago which goes into great detail about what's actually happening in today's freight markets by providing on-screen charts showing the steep rise in new authorities and small carriers adding more and more trucks into the industry.
I bet the downturn lasts a lot longer than anyone thinks. We just went through a period during this pandemic that has never happened before in modern times. We insurance continuing to climb and fuel going up as well it ain’t going to take much longer to push the vast majority of the marginal carriers out of business.
Appreciate your insights on the situation. Indeed, these are challenging times with various factors impacting the industry. Your thoughts contribute to the ongoing discussion about the future of the trucking landscape. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
So there is zero chance of downturn going away with our current political climate. After next election may start to change or could get worse. I am guessing the latter. Going to get ugly minimum of 2 years.
DAT IS A FARCE. My next load is 941 miles $5326, 12,000 lbs. I'm leased to a private company. If your running off load boards, you need to park your trucks. After brokers fee your truck better be getting $3.50 per mile. if fuel goes up again next week then the rate should go up again.
Every carrier and owner operator has different operating costs. I have customers who's operating costs are right around a dollar per mile, while there are others who are over $3. One will be profitable, the other will likely go out of business.
@@AFTDispatchLOL, one cheats and breaks the law, the other tries to follow the rules. There is no way to make more in trucking other than cheating
44k pounds and 45k really hard on the truck…. If you’re company like myself who cares but if I was an owner operator I’d be biting my nails ….. Especially dealing with steep mountain grades 😮
Just curious, what’s the issue running 44k? Is it poor engineering/vehicle quality? Or just higher maintenance? Outside the US lots of countries run higher loads over steep grades and terrain with minimal issue at all..
@@adamtonkin3800exactly
If your truck is specd properly for what you haul it’s all good
@@adamtonkin3800 As a former mechanic running super heavy loads wears on everything from the tires to the transmission and engine….. I’ve blown radiators and many tires with loads over 40k
@preppertrucker5736 People seem to forget that these very trucks were built to haul a whole lot more and that the 80k GVW is only a Federal limitation. Water trucks in the oil fields routinely haul over 300k Lbs. basically off-road. Yes, it beats the trucks up badly but let's not forget that there's a difference of over 250k in weight here.
@adamtonkin3800 most of those trucks outside the U.S. also manage to do so with one less axle. These trucks are made to pull heavy and many people say things out of sheer conditioning. Will they burn more fuel at 44k going through mountains? Absolutely but you have to look at the markets as well. Much better to take a heavy load from a bad market to a good market for decent money than to take a light load coming from a bad market and go into a worse market but then sit there happy knowing that while there's no freight for miles around, at least you saved some fuel and your truck is in better shape. Your truck is your tool, keep it maintained and you'll be fine.
very good info. thank you..
The consumer might be happy but we are not!😵💫
Well, we're also consumers. I think if more truckers set aside funds from when it was a good market, knowing that bad times are coming, we'd be in a different place entirely. Unfortunately what I saw over the years is that if a trucker makes $10k a week, they find a way to spend $10k a week. Just as I've said in another reply, when the market was booming, no one complained, when the market turned, every trucker blamed brokers. How does that work exactly? I feel if more truckers would take personal responsibility for their errors, and made business plans, and took care of their finances, we'd all be much better off.
@@AFTDispatch I see that a lot even with close friends in the industry. I bought a new trailer the 1st of last year and it's going to be paid off by December. It's taking a lot to get it done but I'm putting any extra money towards it and saving the rest then it's nothing but gravy from there. I was one of those guys that spent what I made, now I Invest and save it all I don't spend a penny on anything frivolous anymore. It's time to batten the hatches because it's going to get a lot worse.
After the total gross, what were the deductions from his $8000. Take home, probably around $1800-$2500
There's no way for us to know their operating costs considering none of these drivers are our company drivers. Each owner operator has a different setup and different fuel economy. Same goes for carriers with their own MC. Only they know where their costs lay. I have one carrier in particular who takes home 50% of gross so in this case he'd walk away with $4k after diesel and all other expenses. It varies.
And whats your fee for owner opp. With their own truck n trailer - van
So they're not running up under your dot number? If they are running up under your dot number using your fuel cards and your plates. What are all of the deductions included insurance, etc; or are you all only brokers. by the look of things? Yeah, I'll tracking miles as well.
I'd park it at those rates. I run my truck locally and gross $1300-$1500 per day every day and only spending between $150-$175 per day in fuel and I'm home every night.
i doubt that
unless your drop and hooking
Same but I don’t gross that much between $700-1000 and only spend $100/120 in fuel but I run fuel in the htx area
Well if I can do that locally then I will buy à truck very soon.
Yea? Hauling what?
There is no freight recession. There is, however, an abundance of stupid drivers who enjoy working for free.
Your comment is one of the main reasons why I published today's video about two hours ago. Please take a look. th-cam.com/video/rJEQAB8r2sQ/w-d-xo.html
@@AFTDispatch , There is a rate and not a freight problem. There is a problem with drivers. Typical driver is an idiot. There would be no “low” rates if driver was not an idiot. As of today, 2023, driver on w2 and at 40 hrs per week should have annual pay range of $135-$180k, adjusted for inflation since 1960. Truckers are so stupid that electricians, plumbers, pilots, rail engineer and even HVAC employees have passed a typical CDL driver’s salary, hourly rate wise and also brain capacity,and ability to think, wise. So,there is your answer; typical driver is an idiot and that is based on historic and current data. Change my mind by getting driver’s annual salary on 40 hours per week to where it should be, $125-$180k. Until this happens, majority of CDL drivers are stupid.
Lets shut down and see if rates won’t come back
If trucking shut down, rates would go up but it won't happen because everyone is split up and fighting each other.
So what’s your percentage out of said gross because those are gross numbers not including your cut.
It all depends on whether they're a leased on owner operator or a carriers operating under their own MC authority. Those strictly under dispatch pay a flat rate of 7%
At a2c logistics what are your weekly deductions for plates. Bobtail, occ, everything else peace. I'm hearing good things about a2c logistics i pull flatbed I'm from md.
Sounds great Troy, glad to hear it. I'd love to speak with you and get you connected with Kevin so you two can go over everything since costs vary based on a few different variables, namely plates and if you bring your own trailer or not. We have a couple of different approaches which might work better for you. Let's talk when you're available. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
The fact is semi’s are setting the rates . not hot shots I run a CDL hot shot. Semi haul the weight too cheap
There are definitely more semi trucks out there than LTL and HotShots. I would recommend watching the latest video I uploaded about an hour ago. It goes into great detail about all of this and clearly shows the steep rise in new authorities and small carriers adding more and more trucks into the industry.
The fact is brokers lowball hotshots harder that’s a FACT
I totally believe that if pay rates declines at .50 cents per mile, many truckers will still be rolling the wheels . Use your cash savings! And max out your credit card and keep trucking!
What will happen if we refuse all the loads are in the load board is not offering any profit to owner,I need 82 cents in fuel,10cents on insurance and 60 cents in driver pay=$1.52 per mile,tell me how can you roll even if you are driving your un truck, I am not including truck payment (0.25) and trailer rent (0.15), tell me your Haynes how can you still going??? Are we a magician?the math doesn’t lie.I let this question is this a right time to leave the industry and go home to do anything else?
Thanks for the info. But from a driver on the road who owns his truck. Fuel costs dollar a mile now days. With a 40k load or higher, so if $7,642 is gross fuel out is about 4500. Multiply that by 4 is about 18k A month. Subtract that with ur bills for the truck 1800 insurance 500 truck parking.2500 truck payment, 1000 trailer, 800 oil,1000 tires,(18 tires usually two get changed a month if running every week). That’s about 6500, so total after expense 11500. U say that’s good money right. Well that’s if ur truck is Optimus prime. Kuz trucks can break down 1000 dollars is something simple and go shoot up too 50, thousand dollars. So as owner you need too save money for rainy day, well u can because when u subtract your family’s living expenses there’s really nothing left mortgage cars clothes phones food. Left with maybe 3000 dollars and you need that too fuel and go out again
You're absolutely right in that the costs are there and are very high, no doubt about it. The issue is that many truckers made a ton of money during the booming market and yet 99% of them spent it all. Didn't save a dime. During that time, we never heard anyone complain about brokers or things being unfair. As soon as the market changed, this is when all the crying began. No one wants to take responsibility for anything anymore. When things are good, they're good, when they're bad, it's someone else's fault. I hear you though. Costs are astronomical.
@@AFTDispatch yes brother I saved. Lol but it’s been 2 years we didn’t make a million dollars I’ll true with you I grossed 400 k 2021 team driving with my father. Was able too save 100k. Now Iam in debt 87k. 100k lasted me through 2022 but 2023 is rack up another 100k I don’t have. If my truck breaks down it’s game over at this point.
@@AFTDispatchwhen you average it out you never make any " good money". In the "good times" you are barely able to catch up with piled up bills in the " bad times". It is a vicious cycle, in which in the long run you are working for peanuts.
@@tsocity213I am in a similar situation. Trucking is a mirage. You will never reach the well.
If this is your reality why be in business? You may as well go be a company driver.
Them rates are too low, you need a minimum of $3.50 per mile or better with the fuel cost these days, hope they're not deadheading too many empty miles.
Empty miles, plus fuel cost in area of pickup
You're absolutely right, the combination of empty miles and rising fuel costs in the pickup area can significantly impact the profitability of trucking operations. It's a crucial aspect to consider in these challenging times. Your insights are appreciated.
Yall complaint was the Broker, then they started adding a dispatcher fee. That drove the Rates down further!!!
Who started to add a dispatcher fee?
Do you really think that a small segment of the industry (dispatchers) who charge either a flat fee or rates between 3% - 10% of gross is what drove the rates down? If anything, increased rates would show up in higher averages.
I believe Manufacturing is limited by the Govt. They no longer want Supply,,,,just an overwhelming amount of Demand.
That's one way to create inflated prices. Totally possible. Hence the crashing GDP.
Stop taking cheap rates!!
I agree. Furthermore, learn to negotiate, read data sheets, work the market, and run your business as a business and not a hobby.
1) The pandemic fueled a massive wave of lay-offs.
2) Newly unemployed people bought renovations with severance pay. Lumber prices spiked upwards but only for a while.
3) There is no work-from-home phenomenon. That's just gaslighting from financial and political media.
4) Labor participation has dramatically dropped off.
5) People are staying in 'early retirement' mode. Or migrating to second and third-world countries to do a cheaper walkabout. Where their USD savings has more buying power.
6) Travel and leisure industry is still nominal. This is due to a continual and massive exodus of North American citizens.
7) Lockdowns and mask mandates are, once again, on the horizon.
8) Corporations used the pandemic to shed deadweight and simmering 'metoo' lawsuits.
9) The unemployment rate has been defrauded for political optics. it's not just 3.5%. It's much higher.
Can't help but agree with all 9 points. Thank you for the detailed and well thought out comment! Much appreciated.
Great video
Thank you very much!
@@AFTDispatch it’s Matt
The weight 45k 44k can't take those too much wear and tear on truck and tires everything is expensive now plus down time for the truck I'd prefer light loads heavy isn't worth it for me personally
You really have to look at the whole picture. Sometimes a 44k load takes you from a bad market to a good market and even pays well. Too many people refuse it, take a cheap load and go to a worse market for bad money and then wonder what happened when their truck still breaks.
How can we be having a freight recession when intermodal rail freight is up 30%?
Your comment is one of the main reasons why I published today's video about two hours ago. Please take a look. th-cam.com/video/rJEQAB8r2sQ/w-d-xo.html
I want to.know aboit ups . Hows that company. And how mich pay per mile to a owner operator?? Meed authentic info
I don't have that info but the latest news of their drivers making $170k/yr isn't completely true because of the way those numbers were put together. Those are all company drivers too.
When the brokers take they’re hands out of the hardworking drivers
There are zero laws prohibiting carriers to look for their own customers.
@@AFTDispatch good response
Thanks 👏
You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by!
thank you for your time and knowledge,,,,,,} to inform people with little knowledge no non-legal immigrant can have the privilege of a CDL and everyone in this country our roots are from immigrants
I drive a 26ft box truck and don’t qualify for a cdl. That’s fine with me, I make ton of money with my 26ft without hassle of ifta
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. You're absolutely right, the trucking industry, like much of the country, has its roots in the contributions of immigrants. Your insight sheds light on an important aspect of the industry's history.
Glad to hear it and way to go! All the best to you and let us know if we can be of help in the future.
All trucks need to stop. That'll get everybodies attention.
I doubt that will happen. Not in trucking. Not any time soon.
Civilization would end after 3 days and it would never come back because we'd go extinct.
How are you with getting loads for a conestoga peace
Hi Troy, we don't run Conestogas. We generally run vans, reefers, and flatbeds. We can handle a step deck here and there too but don't work with Conestoga. Let's talk some time, direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
Turning in my reefer tomorrow for repo
How did you get those rates out of Colorado, it’s impossible???
My best one was $1.60
Yeap its not true
@dymonshavlak5488 , @chrisdelgado6915 - we have rate cons on hand, credit checked brokers. I do agree, the guys did a great job dispatching these loads. $2.38 going in, $2.47 coming out.
@@chrisdelgado6915it might be true but just happen one time so of course they're going to use their best numbers. Everyone inflates their rates or truck count to try and impress strangers apparently. Let's face it, there are many ppl watching this video who are constantly booking cheap freight because they have no other option but they aren't going to advertise that. We all book cheap freight at one point or another but it shouldn't be your entire operation. It should be only at times when needed to supplement your bread n butter freight. The ones that entered the business just recently during the pandemic gold rush are the ones now booking every single load off DAT and hoping/praying they'll magically make money in the end of it. There is no get rich quick industry including trucking. If you've been around a while then you should have been doing great the past few years and are able to weather the storm now until it cycles back up. Trucking runs in cycles, it doesn't always stay hot but you make as much as possible when it's hot and get through the slower times in anticipation for the busy time again. This is where long term relationships are key for sustainability. If you're only chasing the spot market then I doubt you last very long. We serviced ALL our dedicated customers without extorting more money out of them during the gold rush and a good portion of them are returning that favor now when we need it. Be strategic and think long term, it works
What app are you using ? Both DAT and Truckstop have good rates coming out off Colorado
All this mean is their shutting an owner completely out biz
I've felt like our industry has been consolidating for some time now and I even dare say nationalizing.
To many slaves piled in a truck parked in the fuel island and not using common courtesy. I still see just as many trucks running up and down the interstate. But when I look over it's more then likely a foreigner. RIP to Trucking being a lucrative career.
Y’all need us here. I’m Mexican, I forced myself in here. But Americans let people from all over the world come legally and those are the people taking the good American jobs. The illegal immigrants take the most labor intense jobs that Americans don’t want
Respecting fellow truckers and maintaining proper etiquette on the road is crucial for a healthy industry. It's true that the trucking landscape is evolving, but there are still opportunities out there.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. Immigration is a complex issue with various viewpoints. It's important for the industry to find a balance that ensures fair opportunities for everyone while addressing the labor needs.
Slaves, lol. There are more Americans from economically depressed areas willing to work for pennies. That's who they're flooding the market with. Check that out the next time you fuel.
Damb wish i knew how much fuel these guys use for those 8k in cali we at $1 a mile in fuel
This country is bankrupt and headed for a depression that will make 1929 look like. Bull Market. The current downturn in the trucking industry is just an early indicator of what’s coming economy wide.
Absolutely, your concern is valid. The economic landscape is undoubtedly facing challenges, and the current downturn in the trucking industry does highlight some broader trends. The intricacies of the freight industry often serve as early indicators of larger economic shifts. As we navigate these uncertain times, it's essential to stay informed and prepared for potential changes ahead.
You obviously don't know anything about economics, you can't even provide proof of that. You don't even know the difference between a depression and a recession when we aren't heading towards either. 🤣🤣🤣
zombies coming soon
how do you drive 3600 miles a week????
3600 miles/6 days = 600 miles a day. 60 driving hours at 60mph average and 10hrs on duty a week, then reset Sunday.
Thanks for stopping in and explaining it @abrax23
Many of our guys choose to run through the weekend. Some run on recaps. @cesargonzales5459 and @ShaneAcimov
Fmcsa needs to make it illegal for Mexico and Canadian carriers not allowed to enter past border cities and not open terminals in the states. This is killing the industry
Also to many illegal immigrants are in the truck
Without a doubt there are many who work for gross and cut corners in other areas. I'm much more concerned with poor training and safety on the road.
Brand new trucks not old trucks
Too many...not to many. Are you an illegal.
I saw 4 guys get out of volvo in Tennessee about a year ago. All Indians 😂
They can get a CDL if are not legal in USA ?
Why would anyone want to drive trucks anymore anyway? You have so many different agencies actively working against you including your own employer! Not to mention traffic isn't getting any better and all of the people that are trying to get an easy Buck see you as a Target
Looking for a good job that gets me home on weekends to Tulsa Oklahoma
You're just not going to make enough running OTR for a week. I would suggest looking for a regional company and trying to get a company driver with them. Sometimes it works out very well. If you have your own MC, we can dispatch you like you want but we'd need to make sure and go over some ground rules because it'll be very hard for you to make ends meet. Let's talk if of interest, my direct line is (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
How much are u guys shaving off
Dude..stop trying to sugarcoat bad news and bad projections...there is absolutely nothing positive in the near future in anything you said...
pinto beans 🎉 no pintos for u baby just TEXAS BBQ 😂😂😂😂
We get the info off the rate cons and you know how wonderfully descriptive they can be hahaha. I knew it had to be pinto beans but the broker had other ideas. Pintos 😂
Yeah sounds good. Take some more money that we didn’t have. 👍
Never end. Did you forget that the rates are actually right about where they have been for many years other than the covid blip. Too many under educated people who convince themselves you can move a truck for 2 bucks a mile. The cycle continues and will go on for ever. Stop crying. Learn to live with it and beca part of the fight to outbid each other or get out.
No one's crying mac. I'm doing quite well, have done well for over a decade now. Many of my customers are doing well too. The issue is elevated costs and fuel but I think you know that.
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Not good for flatbed
Thank you for sharing your perspective. The challenges faced by the flatbed segment in this economic climate are definitely worth considering. Your input adds to the conversation.
They grossed 8000 took home $650😂
Let's not forget that everyone's expenses and operating costs are different. I'm sorry if you only net $650 out of $8k. Call me and we can see if there are areas that can be improved. (801) 447-6929 is my direct line. Here to help.
Brokers are a major part of problem
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What's all the big companies closing your doors? This is a great opportunity for the small companies and for people who want to take a chance on building. A company I consider this a rebuilding stage in the industry the 20th century ways of doing trucking. Look at yellow corporation. They continue to do what they did in the past and now they're out of business prime trucking laying off 8000 workers Tyson foods letting go. 3000 workers so what we have to do in is industry. Is learn? From. The? Past but also realize that the only consident universes change let's try to incorporate what has worked in the past but also if a company can be non. Union yet do things like. Better health care better wages for their drivers because obviously the federal government. Isn't going to do anything for us? We have to do it and of that means we have to negotiate with the brokers to raise the rates because where the ones that are paced to face. With them or in this case phone call to phone call? Let's have the 21st century B once again made an America. But more importantly that we either one's there considered the backbone of this country.
You raise some important points about the evolving nature of the trucking industry and the challenges that both large and small companies are facing. Adapting to changes and learning from past mistakes is crucial for the industry's sustainability. It's true that the industry's success depends on a balance between tradition and innovation. As you've highlighted, better wages, working conditions, and negotiation with brokers are important steps towards creating a stronger and more sustainable trucking ecosystem. Your insights about the trucking industry being the backbone of the nation are appreciated. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Americans are clueless about whats happening to their trucking industry. It happened in canada years ago, there is nothing you can do to stop it. Unless you are willing to go months without pay, drive in teams for peanuts, there will be no future for you in trucking. Youll see
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There isn't a trucking recession...it's just brokers are GREEDY and stupid owners are desperate to pay that 4000 a month truck payment
Your comment is one of the main reasons why I published today's video about an hour ago. Please take a look. th-cam.com/video/rJEQAB8r2sQ/w-d-xo.html
It should end when trump becomes president
Your the problem.
Oh ok, so we help our customers make and keep more of their money. I have customers who've been with us for YEARS who couldn't make it and are incredibly grateful for our dispatchers and our service. Clearly you know it all though. Great attitude.
If there was a driver shortage why can't you find a place to park at a truck stop after 6pm
I could be because there are less spots than trucks on the road. I think you may be conflating the number of drivers with the number of truck parking spots which have no correlation. With that said, we'll have a video coming out today about this. Be sure you're subscribed and have the notification bell on because this should be an interesting one and might just answer some of your questions.
Aaah yes everyone doing the same thing pulling a box keep it up guys and gals and I’ll keep doing specialized
Absolutely, diversification in the trucking industry is key. Specialized hauling brings unique opportunities and can set you apart from the crowd. Keep up the good work, and thank you for sharing your perspective!
@@AFTDispatchthank you for the break down of general freight I hope for my fellow truckers the demands shoots back up so everyone can make moneub
Vivek 2024
And what exactly does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Bringing back what use to be. I call it uncommon sense today because it's uncommon for a lot to have any
I think you'd agree that the morons running the show have a lot to do with the problems we face in this industry