I salute and commend Carol, yeeeees, her mind is finally free! JW is a seedy, slimy, low down cult through and through, and for her or anyone else to leave that or any cult is true freedom. If there is anything I would say to her face to face, you can't apply today's knowledge and wisdom to yesterday's experience. You can't undo the past, but you can sure as the sun shines, out live it. I can hear in Carol's voice the emotional pain she is going through as her body, mind and spirit detoxes from the disease of religion. She is a good solid beautiful woman coming into her freedom. The scars of the cult will fade the more she makes her way into her changed life, both inside and out. Nothing but peace and love to her and her son going forward.
Thank you for sharing your story Carol. I was raised a JW so I cried with you. Its painful. I have two teen boys that are still believing JW's. I am trying desperately to wake them up. It's so painful to watch them wasting their youth and talents in that horrible lie. The Governing body is stealing their lives from them. Tim, I loved your point about informing people of the mythology behind it all. This is my approach with my sons. They freeze up if I try to say anything JW specific. But when I tell them I'm not attacking your religion I don't believe in any of them, I can feel the walls come down a little bit. I just hate the thought of all the children born into the JW'S and other religions/cults that are talented, intelligent, kids that could grow up to be scientists, doctors, professional athletes, artists , musicians. . . Where would humanity be if all of them were allowed to reach their full potential. 😢
"You can never join them knowing fully who they are. That's something the watchtower makes sure of." To me that's the most powerful statement in the entire video. Explains how my 25 yr old sister was able to inexplicably join them. Single with a baby, scared and vulnerable but extremely intelligent. We could never figure out how. Oh she's dead now at age 43 from following their no blood doctrine.
So poignant, I have never seen someone so closely describe the pain I felt in my decisions to deconvert. It was so painful but not as crazy as living the lie. I remember driving and realizing it was over just as she described. Thanks Tim.
Carrol is an intelligent, well spoken, clear person, which is interesting because I didn't hear from her that she had a good education. Smart lady. I like her.
WOW!! what a VERY powerful video!! Thank you Ms Carol for being so brave and sharing your very personal heart wrenching story. Im so sorry for all that you have gone through. You did not deserve what happened to you and any of that pain. Im so glad you are where you are now & I wish all the best for you as you keep moving forward sweetheart!! And thank you for helping others by telling your story.❤ And thank you dear Tim Mills for having her on your channel and all the REALLY great things you asked her & commented on and shared with her & your viewers. Which reminds me, I've been meaning to tell that- I always love it when you "Date yourself" and share things about yourself & all the things that you have been through & are going through, and you always bring up such GOOD points! WOW!! You are so wise & kind & understanding & compassionate. And you give such REALLY GOOD advice. Thank you!! I have told you this before & I will tell you again, you are helping way more people than you will ever realize. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH❤❤
I join you in your comment - absolutely!!! I think each one of us who deconverted or having thoughts, see ourselves in everyone's story and experience. It doesn't matter what sect, doctrine or church, it is all a mind control scam and I am so glad to be out and away from that lunacy.
Just listening to this, the respect is definitely there Carol as the journey for us all into freedom does indeed pay off. This actually reminds me of, when she mentioned the strong grasp held to these innocent people, a receptionist at my school that's heavy into being a JW. And just thinking back on the interest I had in her, while also able to notice how indoctrinated she really is, can get a person not going? But in hopes the person can snap, but with a sensible cause. Loved the story Carol and forever and always Tim, thank you. ❤
Oh my word. I had never understood till now what all the not wearing pants thing was really about. Sending love. I'm sorry this happened to a beautiful person. It's such an inversion. Just start reading...read this book. ❤ "That's not who runs this organization. There's a group of men..." I think this statement is key and extends to just about all our cultural structures at this point. Structural change is needed.
@@totonow6955 Here's what is going on with Watchtower... God has amassed for Himself an Army of concerned families and friends, "Apostates," victims and survivors, to tear down this abomination of a false religion. Watchtower is a bad tree, bearing bad fruit, fit only for fire, the LORD has already laid axe to root. A house divided will not stand, and Watchtower will not survive the assault from the Armies of the LORD. Christ has triumphed over Watchtower, and we, His people, exalt over IT!! Yes, in the Mighty name of Jesus, this thing is coming down like the walls of Jericho! SHOUT!
Riveting and vulnerable. I'm so impressed how Carol shared her moving and triumphant story. Thank you, Carol and Tim, for another great explanation of how this religious journey happens to us humans. I saw what you meant when you explained the working title of your book. p.s. Carol, I love the Twilight saga -😊- I relisten to the audiobooks - my guilty pleasure. If you haven't listened to them, they're a treat! 🩷
Hi Carol , just last week the G/B announced that you don't have to keep track of your hours just have to simply check mark that you went in service , Im pretty sure they did this so that they wouldn't be responsible for there part time employees going door to door as a company rep selling books , plus that they were being sued for not providing min wage , or if you were injured while you worked or volunteered for a corporation , also if you were assaulted by house hold members at the door by dogs or humans the watchtower would not be responsible , what really pissed me off was all those who were marked or shunned for not getting there door to door hours in . what a sick cult this was.
What a cool woman. I see lots of parallels with one of my favorite sites "Dazed but not confused" (I think) by an actor in LA who figured his way out of scientology. He's a very sharp guy yet he was completely brainwashed. He talks about how even clever people can fall for cult tactics like mind control, love bombing, etc. Keep up the good work!
thankyou for sharing your story, Ive had alot of similar experiences and it really helps to know other people have went through the same and its not just me.
If I can't be one of the first listeners, it's because I'm saving it for a little bit of time in my day when I can get a project completed and I know Tim and his guest will share their lives with me. So I'm not an immediate clicker. I still have a few in the backlog that I haven't finished. Not many though. So keep them coming. 😊
Wow, Carol is such an awesome speaker. Her personality is so great, I was captivated and literally couldn't take me eyes away! Thank you for having her on. Does she have her own show as well? I would subscribe for sure!!
Hi, Tia! Thanks for your comment ... I don't think Carol does yet, but maybe someday! Feel free to add me on FB and reach out there if you'd like to consider doing an interview! facebook.com/timandjuliemills
Always felt so sad that so many turned down scholarships. Far right religions tend toward homeschooling. Someone at the top of the organization, got married, stayed at Bethel, and had a son there. At the time getting married was something you did not do at Bethel let alone children. The child later did get higher education. All the while, telling us not to pursue education. I am struggling because of what we pursued as witnesses. Absolutely difficult to form friendships. Do take an interest in politics. Of course, at the moment, it is horrifying.
Yes the reason most people home school is because of the rate of success and getting that higher education. Most home schoolers graduate early and go on to college.
Being a former JW that has recently learned the absolute evil & hypocrisy that the watchtower has perpetrated, I can confirm that this beautiful soul is speaking truth. I feel her pain, and I am so thank that she is free and able to live her life.
Never forget that every claim a book makes has to be evaluated and proven independently of every other claim it makes. The Bible describes the Red Sea, which can be proven to exist. The fact that the Red sea exists does nothing to prove that a god exists or that said "god" parted the Red Sea. Thanks for your story Carol. You are a truly powerful and inspirational Woman. And Tim, your videos are my absolute favorite on You Tube. Keep fighting the good fight brother.
I was a Christian for twenty years, out and out 100% Christian. I read the bible not to understand the bible but to understand God. Then studied love and realised that if God is love which I believe He is then the bible cant be God's word. Everyone knows what is morally right. we all have an innate knowledge of what is morally right as our guide. We can all see by looking at nature that there must be a designer. All we need to know about God we already know. Seek wisdom and do what you know to be right.
I totally get the leaving church but not deconverting for a long time thing... took me 4 decades after leaving fundie church to finally admit I am atheist. And I still have stubborn, clingy beliefs I can't completely shake. It's still really hard for me to even say the word atheist.
In 1994 I had a son that was out in service and soon to be baptized , but died in a car accident at 18 years old , the elders refused to have a funeral for him get this because I was weak in there beliefs , that really tore me up as well as the wife ,it was my last day as a jehovah's witness , but my wife is still a JW , I don't get it, the elders showed no love during our great lose. but then again I married her for being her and for being the mother of my 2 boys who are not JW'S, religions are all the same they want jesus there savior to kill you at Armageddon, or burn for ever which is impossible . if your not in there church .
I'm sure you've heard by now the story of Ruby Franke and Connextions. I guess we didn't learn a thing from the Duggars. The family was reported to CPS several times and nothing happened. 😥 I'm wondering if this type of discipline is typical for the Mormon church.
I listened to bible scholars about the Bible. Especially curious about those deeply entrenched in Fundamentalism and theology. IF there is a God, I think he/she/they are big enough- adult enough the have an umbrella big enough for many.
I salute and commend Carol, yeeeees, her mind is finally free! JW is a seedy, slimy, low down cult through and through, and for her or anyone else to leave that or any cult is true freedom. If there is anything I would say to her face to face, you can't apply today's knowledge and wisdom to yesterday's experience. You can't undo the past, but you can sure as the sun shines, out live it.
I can hear in Carol's voice the emotional pain she is going through as her body, mind and spirit detoxes from the disease of religion. She is a good solid beautiful woman coming into her freedom. The scars of the cult will fade the more she makes her way into her changed life, both inside and out. Nothing but peace and love to her and her son going forward.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
Thank you for sharing your story Carol. I was raised a JW so I cried with you. Its painful. I have two teen boys that are still believing JW's. I am trying desperately to wake them up. It's so painful to watch them wasting their youth and talents in that horrible lie. The Governing body is stealing their lives from them.
Tim, I loved your point about informing people of the mythology behind it all. This is my approach with my sons. They freeze up if I try to say anything JW specific. But when I tell them I'm not attacking your religion I don't believe in any of them, I can feel the walls come down a little bit. I just hate the thought of all the children born into the JW'S and other religions/cults that are talented, intelligent, kids that could grow up to be scientists, doctors, professional athletes, artists , musicians. . . Where would humanity be if all of them were allowed to reach their full potential. 😢
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
"You can never join them knowing fully who they are. That's something the watchtower makes sure of." To me that's the most powerful statement in the entire video. Explains how my 25 yr old sister was able to inexplicably join them. Single with a baby, scared and vulnerable but extremely intelligent. We could never figure out how.
Oh she's dead now at age 43 from following their no blood doctrine.
Oh my gosh, I am so very sorry for your loss. That is an inexcusable doctrine.
So poignant, I have never seen someone so closely describe the pain I felt in my decisions to deconvert. It was so painful but not as crazy as living the lie. I remember driving and realizing it was over just as she described. Thanks Tim.
Carrol is an intelligent, well spoken, clear person, which is interesting because I didn't hear from her that she had a good education. Smart lady. I like her.
WOW!! what a VERY powerful video!! Thank you Ms Carol for being so brave and sharing your very personal heart wrenching story. Im so sorry for all that you have gone through. You did not deserve what happened to you and any of that pain. Im so glad you are where you are now & I wish all the best for you as you keep moving forward sweetheart!! And thank you for helping others by telling your story.❤ And thank you dear Tim Mills for having her on your channel and all the REALLY great things you asked her & commented on and shared with her & your viewers. Which reminds me, I've been meaning to tell that- I always love it when you "Date yourself" and share things about yourself & all the things that you have been through & are going through, and you always bring up such GOOD points! WOW!! You are so wise & kind & understanding & compassionate. And you give such REALLY GOOD advice. Thank you!! I have told you this before & I will tell you again, you are helping way more people than you will ever realize. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH❤❤
I totally agree with this comment❤🙂👍🏾👍🏽👍👍🏿👍🏽👍🏻
I join you in your comment - absolutely!!! I think each one of us who deconverted or having thoughts, see ourselves in everyone's story and experience. It doesn't matter what sect, doctrine or church, it is all a mind control scam and I am so glad to be out and away from that lunacy.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
@@scofahJesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????
@@pjj.5649Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
Thank you for this video which will help the thousands of PIMOs who suffer in silence in this apocalyptic cult.
Just listening to this, the respect is definitely there Carol as the journey for us all into freedom does indeed pay off. This actually reminds me of, when she mentioned the strong grasp held to these innocent people, a receptionist at my school that's heavy into being a JW. And just thinking back on the interest I had in her, while also able to notice how indoctrinated she really is, can get a person not going? But in hopes the person can snap, but with a sensible cause. Loved the story Carol and forever and always Tim, thank you. ❤
Thanks Tim and Carol.
Oh my word. I had never understood till now what all the not wearing pants thing was really about. Sending love. I'm sorry this happened to a beautiful person. It's such an inversion. Just start reading...read this book. ❤
"That's not who runs this organization. There's a group of men..." I think this statement is key and extends to just about all our cultural structures at this point. Structural change is needed.
Too late.
The LORD has already laid axe to root.
@@mattmurdock2868 you'll have to be more specific. I don't know what you are getting at.
@@totonow6955
Here's what is going on with Watchtower...
God has amassed for Himself an Army of concerned families and friends, "Apostates," victims and survivors, to tear down this abomination of a false religion.
Watchtower is a bad tree, bearing bad fruit, fit only for fire, the LORD has already laid axe to root.
A house divided will not stand, and Watchtower will not survive the assault from the Armies of the LORD.
Christ has triumphed over Watchtower, and we, His people, exalt over IT!!
Yes, in the Mighty name of Jesus, this thing is coming down like the walls of Jericho!
SHOUT!
Riveting and vulnerable. I'm so impressed how Carol shared her moving and triumphant story. Thank you, Carol and Tim, for another great explanation of how this religious journey happens to us humans. I saw what you meant when you explained the working title of your book. p.s. Carol, I love the Twilight saga -😊- I relisten to the audiobooks - my guilty pleasure. If you haven't listened to them, they're a treat! 🩷
Wow!!!!!. Beautiful woman. Thanks for your story ❤️
Hi Carol , just last week the G/B announced that you don't have to keep track of your hours just have to simply check mark that you went in service , Im pretty sure they did this so that they wouldn't be responsible for there part time employees going door to door as a company rep selling books , plus that they were being sued for not providing min wage , or if you were injured while you worked or volunteered for a corporation , also if you were assaulted by house hold members at the door by dogs or humans the watchtower would not be responsible , what really pissed me off was all those who were marked or shunned for not getting there door to door hours in . what a sick cult this was.
What a cool woman. I see lots of parallels with one of my favorite sites "Dazed but not confused" (I think) by an actor in LA who figured his way out of scientology. He's a very sharp guy yet he was completely brainwashed. He talks about how even clever people can fall for cult tactics like mind control, love bombing, etc. Keep up the good work!
Powerful story, moving journey and brave share exposing your truth seeking heart. May I say how happy I am that you can put all that behind. 😅❤
Thank you this was a great interview
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????
thankyou for sharing your story, Ive had alot of similar experiences and it really helps to know other people have went through the same and its not just me.
Tim it looks like you're heading for 100 views in the first hour of release! Well done.
If I can't be one of the first listeners, it's because I'm saving it for a little bit of time in my day when I can get a project completed and I know Tim and his guest will share their lives with me. So I'm not an immediate clicker. I still have a few in the backlog that I haven't finished. Not many though. So keep them coming. 😊
Coming from JW background myself, Carol's experiences are exactly the same as what I had before.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
Carol’s sincerity just shines! Emotional intelligence of the first order.
Wow, Carol is such an awesome speaker. Her personality is so great, I was captivated and literally couldn't take me eyes away! Thank you for having her on. Does she have her own show as well? I would subscribe for sure!!
Hi, Tia! Thanks for your comment ... I don't think Carol does yet, but maybe someday!
Feel free to add me on FB and reach out there if you'd like to consider doing an interview!
facebook.com/timandjuliemills
Always felt so sad that so many turned down scholarships. Far right religions tend toward homeschooling. Someone at the top of the organization, got married, stayed at Bethel, and had a son there. At the time getting married was something you did not do at Bethel let alone children. The child later did get higher education. All the while, telling us not to pursue education. I am struggling because of what we pursued as witnesses. Absolutely difficult to form friendships. Do take an interest in politics. Of course, at the moment, it is horrifying.
Yes the reason most people home school is because of the rate of success and getting that higher education.
Most home schoolers graduate early and go on to college.
As an ex Jw I can so resonate cudos to her for breaking free many r stuck in it because they would loose everything otherwise
great info...
Being a former JW that has recently learned the absolute evil & hypocrisy that the watchtower has perpetrated, I can confirm that this beautiful soul is speaking truth. I feel her pain, and I am so thank that she is free and able to live her life.
Hi, Pamela, please feel free to reach out if you would like to consider an interview. --Tim
facebook.com/timandjuliemills
Never forget that every claim a book makes has to be evaluated and proven independently of every other claim it makes. The Bible describes the Red Sea, which can be proven to exist. The fact that the Red sea exists does nothing to prove that a god exists or that said "god" parted the Red Sea. Thanks for your story Carol. You are a truly powerful and inspirational Woman. And Tim, your videos are my absolute favorite on You Tube. Keep fighting the good fight brother.
I was a Christian for twenty years, out and out 100% Christian. I read the bible not to understand the bible but to understand God. Then studied love and realised that if God is love which I believe He is then the bible cant be God's word.
Everyone knows what is morally right. we all have an innate knowledge of what is morally right as our guide. We can all see by looking at nature that there must be a designer.
All we need to know about God we already know.
Seek wisdom and do what you know to be right.
I totally get the leaving church but not deconverting for a long time thing... took me 4 decades after leaving fundie church to finally admit I am atheist. And I still have stubborn, clingy beliefs I can't completely shake. It's still really hard for me to even say the word atheist.
In 1994 I had a son that was out in service and soon to be baptized , but died in a car accident at 18 years old , the elders refused to have a funeral for him get this because I was weak in there beliefs , that really tore me up as well as the wife ,it was my last day as a jehovah's witness , but my wife is still a JW , I don't get it, the elders showed no love during our great lose. but then again I married her for being her and for being the mother of my 2 boys who are not JW'S, religions are all the same they want jesus there savior to kill you at Armageddon, or burn for ever which is impossible . if your not in there church .
I cannot even imagine, I am so sorry, but I am glad you were able to get out.
@@excultcarol5570thank you it means so much.
Great Job keep Exposing Watchtower LIES
How many of you are wearing masks? Who are you and who am I? NAILED IT.
Religious people wear different masks and different hats for every situation and event. Amazing
A Catholic monk created that name Jehovah
I'm sure you've heard by now the story of Ruby Franke and Connextions. I guess we didn't learn a thing from the Duggars. The family was reported to CPS several times and nothing happened. 😥 I'm wondering if this type of discipline is typical for the Mormon church.
I listened to bible scholars about the Bible. Especially curious about those deeply entrenched in Fundamentalism and theology. IF there is a God, I think he/she/they are big enough- adult enough the have an umbrella big enough for many.
We have made a mockery of ourselves inventing all this shite and perpetuating it.
........ The door is still open.....
Thanks Tim and Caroll