Why are palettes of mtg boxes destroyed? Well, when a transport company hits the pallets with a forklift (which usually happens) and the customer refuses them, the transport company pays the claim to the shipper (WOTC) and disposes of it. And that results in: wotc has "sold" merchandise ... and the costs can be written off
it is very unlikely that they would destroy the whole pallet just because it hit by a forklift. we regularily had tha problem with board and card games at the dutch distributor and you just removed the damage product. eveything seems a bit shady and weird, tbh! 👊🏻
Secret lairs is very odd they cheap to store. Maybe its an Amazon fulfillment from an Amazon seller. Its a monthly fee if you dont sell you either trash (but most likely they put it in a mystery amazon box) or send back. It makes no sense for WOTC to destroy secret lairs, they cost next to nothing.
true, all of this is very strange and does not really make sense, ricardo. i hope we get some more info about that whole thung, so we can form a better picture! 👊🏻
it think the death penalty is a bit harsh, but can destroy savings with their actions. if this is true this does as much damage to the brand perception of mtg as the 30th did!
@@NerdAndProudOfIt it’s not at this point. 30 years ago before Enron and the other grifts maybe. It’s gone too far. These thieves (not just hasbro, it’s all of them), get to destroy good companies with little to no consequences, and then on top, get paid in a golden parachute or severance beyond what most average people make in a few years). The system is rigged by the top and it’s time they start paying for all they have stolen and destroyed. And it needs to be in a solid pound of flesh.
@@NerdAndProudOfIt I would though. American corporations are out of control across the board. They are no longer businesses but have essentially become foreign invaders and should be treated with hostility. This isnt just Hasbro like I said.
Hehehe the Pirate Hunter's Corner here. Add me in on that thinking I already have a mask LOL, thing is no one would have heard about it had it gone down that way LOL At least that palate and sealed boxes was worth the effort.
It was strange how when the 30th was on sale, then it wasn't, then it was and then ended in a very short time frame. They decided to minimize the overprint they had by listening to us and dumped it. Just thankful that it is not older product. Keep up the 2ndary Market! Where I am buying 90's cards with some tax return. We can keep the game and Swords to Plowshares HASBRO. All the cards we need are already printed.
at this point i would not be sad if wotc would be sold off, to ensure different management of both mtg and dnd! mtg 30th was a disaster. and now we see what happens if you destroy consumer confidence! as you know, survivor, i am not buying anything atm and i manage just fine with old cards! 😁👊🏻
It feels a little weird that they would dump Intellectual Property without destroying it? This reflects badly on the company but also increases the risk of scavengers (LOL). I would have thought they would burn them or recycle them instead?
first thing that would come to mind is recycling indeed, doc labrador, but recycling costs money. and saving money to maximize profit is high on the wotc prio list, so i can easily see them chosing the cheap option to get rid of pallets. 🤔👊🏻
Fastest and cheapest disposal method available in the heat of the moment I bet so they took it. It was probably a "Free Dump Thursday" where they accept trash for a day each month no charge LOL Some dumps do this! The way business works, cheaply to maximize profit.
I guess it’s better mulched in a landfill than sitting in a warehouse to be dumped to the market quietly. I really hope this wasn’t the fate of the legends cards that they opened and refused to release for sensitivity reasons…!
oh my good, mike, if they really dumped all those beautiful, but culturally not accepted legends cards there too, that would be tragic! and i don’t know what would be better, tbh. i am a marketeer and i believe i know a little something about brand management. i’d rather have them admit they overprinted and give the product to hospitals, charity or schools (something we have been doing with the videogame industry for decades with consoles and games), than see it dumped as garbage. this is so harmful to the brand perception…it’s a shame! to me it symbolises that wotc equals mtg with trash. i don’t know if my brand perception and brand value can recover from that. they need to adress things, or they are done. not tomorrow, not next year, but sooner than they think. i know what you mean and in principle i agree, but the way they did it, if this is true, is just wrong.
Would you tap a "Landfill" as you would any other land, or does it have special mechanics? (I'm trying to sound like I know how Magic is played...) Great report Jürgen !
hey anson! thanks so much for dropping by! appreciate it! 😁👊🏻 i probably would give landfill the following mechanics: Landfill - Legendary Land Tap to add 1 colorless Mana to your mana pool. Tap 2 and Landfill - Destroy target Artifact or Equipment Flavor text: ‘Never did the arrogant wizards in their ivory towers expect the Landfill to be the reason for their downfall’! - Herald Nerdus the 1st of the Lower Lands 😜😂
To me this just seems like a big stunt staged by someone-somegroup, why are the only products here you can distinguish from the trash just magic cards/boxes? I don't see any other identifiable old products/trash, the magic just stands out a bit too much. But yet again, I wasn't there, I know nothing. Just hope that people will still take care of their precious collections and give love to the artists and memories we all have!
hey azncless! thanks for stopping by again, my friend! yeah, it is clearly all speculation and nobody knows for sure, but i have to admit it is starting to look less and less staged with every new vid and pic surfacing. but i absolutely agree that it is really important to take good care of those collection and appreciate every aspect of them! 👊🏻❤️
There needs to be consequences for this. This rot goes all the way to the top of the food chain at WotC and probably Hasbro -- the housecleaning is long overdue.
What seems to be the problem here? There doesn’t seem to be any kind of ethical issue as far as I can see. I’m not sure how it hurts the game either. I don’t want to give WOTC any kind of benefit of the doubt here, but what is it that is causing the vitriol over this situation? I feel like I’m missing something fundamental here
thanks for your comment, jackson, appreciate it! the problem is lying to customers about overprinting of product, failing to aknowledge product fatigue and having too many set and then destroying longterm value and brand perception by literally dumping product. not to mention the slap in the face to anybody who bought this product for the full price. absolutely tragic!
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Why are palettes of mtg boxes destroyed?
Well, when a transport company hits the pallets with a forklift (which usually happens) and the customer refuses them, the transport company pays the claim to the shipper (WOTC) and disposes of it.
And that results in: wotc has "sold" merchandise ... and the costs can be written off
it is very unlikely that they would destroy the whole pallet just because it hit by a forklift. we regularily had tha problem with board and card games at the dutch distributor and you just removed the damage product.
eveything seems a bit shady and weird, tbh! 👊🏻
Secret lairs is very odd they cheap to store. Maybe its an Amazon fulfillment from an Amazon seller. Its a monthly fee if you dont sell you either trash (but most likely they put it in a mystery amazon box) or send back. It makes no sense for WOTC to destroy secret lairs, they cost next to nothing.
true, all of this is very strange and does not really make sense, ricardo. i hope we get some more info about that whole thung, so we can form a better picture! 👊🏻
This is why the def penalty needs to be introduced to higher ups at corporations across the board. They destroy lives and savings.
it think the death penalty is a bit harsh, but can destroy savings with their actions. if this is true this does as much damage to the brand perception of mtg as the 30th did!
@@NerdAndProudOfIt it’s not at this point. 30 years ago before Enron and the other grifts maybe. It’s gone too far. These thieves (not just hasbro, it’s all of them), get to destroy good companies with little to no consequences, and then on top, get paid in a golden parachute or severance beyond what most average people make in a few years). The system is rigged by the top and it’s time they start paying for all they have stolen and destroyed. And it needs to be in a solid pound of flesh.
@@TheSillySils i wouldn’t look at it that pessimistacally, but i know what you mean.
@@NerdAndProudOfIt I would though. American corporations are out of control across the board. They are no longer businesses but have essentially become foreign invaders and should be treated with hostility. This isnt just Hasbro like I said.
First thought......man, I wish I found this
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hahaha, honestly, me too, doom! i would have had a closer look (wearing a full body hazard suit, though 😂)!
@@NerdAndProudOfIt imagine going through all those boxes😁😁😁
Hehehe the Pirate Hunter's Corner here. Add me in on that thinking I already have a mask LOL, thing is no one would have heard about it had it gone down that way LOL At least that palate and sealed boxes was worth the effort.
Only thing I can think of is: why didn't I find those pallets. Just my luck.....
haha, jimmi, hit those flea markets for undiscovered alpha! probably less smelly and worth more 😜👊🏻
@@NerdAndProudOfIt haha true.
It was strange how when the 30th was on sale, then it wasn't, then it was and then ended in a very short time frame. They decided to minimize the overprint they had by listening to us and dumped it. Just thankful that it is not older product. Keep up the 2ndary Market! Where I am buying 90's cards with some tax return. We can keep the game and Swords to Plowshares HASBRO. All the cards we need are already printed.
at this point i would not be sad if wotc would be sold off, to ensure different management of both mtg and dnd!
mtg 30th was a disaster. and now we see what happens if you destroy consumer confidence!
as you know, survivor, i am not buying anything atm and i manage just fine with old cards! 😁👊🏻
"Pump and dump is Real" HASBRO 2023...
lol!! that s a great one!!! 😁😂👊🏻
Just wondering if we do need new card conditions now? RL - rescued from landfill 🧐
that would be hilarious!! ‘so, this is reserved list!?’. ‘no, man, it’s rescue from a landfill!’ 😂😂
I think someone just needed space in the attic and dumped all the garbage :)
psst, don’t tell anyone! 😂😜
It feels a little weird that they would dump Intellectual Property without destroying it? This reflects badly on the company but also increases the risk of scavengers (LOL). I would have thought they would burn them or recycle them instead?
first thing that would come to mind is recycling indeed, doc labrador, but recycling costs money. and saving money to maximize profit is high on the wotc prio list, so i can easily see them chosing the cheap option to get rid of pallets. 🤔👊🏻
Fastest and cheapest disposal method available in the heat of the moment I bet so they took it. It was probably a "Free Dump Thursday" where they accept trash for a day each month no charge LOL Some dumps do this! The way business works, cheaply to maximize profit.
So many thought... so much product... haven't been sleeping well over it. Lol
haha, twiddler, me neither! i think we need to plan a trip to texas! 😂😜👊🏻
@NerdAndProudOfIt I am down with it. I think we'd be left hold landfill turds. We'd be late for the party
@@TwiddlersPlaceMTG i think we indeed would be late to the party, buddy, yes! 😂👊🏻
I guess it’s better mulched in a landfill than sitting in a warehouse to be dumped to the market quietly. I really hope this wasn’t the fate of the legends cards that they opened and refused to release for sensitivity reasons…!
oh my good, mike, if they really dumped all those beautiful, but culturally not accepted legends cards there too, that would be tragic!
and i don’t know what would be better, tbh. i am a marketeer and i believe i know a little something about brand management. i’d rather have them admit they overprinted and give the product to hospitals, charity or schools (something we have been doing with the videogame industry for decades with consoles and games), than see it dumped as garbage. this is so harmful to the brand perception…it’s a shame! to me it symbolises that wotc equals mtg with trash. i don’t know if my brand perception and brand value can recover from that. they need to adress things, or they are done. not tomorrow, not next year, but sooner than they think.
i know what you mean and in principle i agree, but the way they did it, if this is true, is just wrong.
Would you tap a "Landfill" as you would any other land, or does it have special mechanics? (I'm trying to sound like I know how Magic is played...) Great report Jürgen !
hey anson! thanks so much for dropping by! appreciate it! 😁👊🏻
i probably would give landfill the following mechanics:
Landfill - Legendary Land
Tap to add 1 colorless Mana to your mana pool.
Tap 2 and Landfill - Destroy target Artifact or Equipment
Flavor text: ‘Never did the arrogant wizards in their ivory towers expect the Landfill to be the reason for their downfall’! - Herald Nerdus the 1st of the Lower Lands
😜😂
and you can’t fool us, anson 😜! if you need a card to make a certain play, you just alter it on the spot! 😁👊🏻❤️
It is what it is- lol I find it funny and sad. Landfill magic sounds like a new format! Lol
RL shall stand for rescued from landfill as from now on, tortoise! 😂
it is what it is, indeed! 😜
The trash has to go somewhere...🤘🦁🤘
hahaha, too soon, lion, too soon!! 😂😜👊🏻
To me this just seems like a big stunt staged by someone-somegroup, why are the only products here you can distinguish from the trash just magic cards/boxes? I don't see any other identifiable old products/trash, the magic just stands out a bit too much. But yet again, I wasn't there, I know nothing. Just hope that people will still take care of their precious collections and give love to the artists and memories we all have!
hey azncless! thanks for stopping by again, my friend!
yeah, it is clearly all speculation and nobody knows for sure, but i have to admit it is starting to look less and less staged with every new vid and pic surfacing. but i absolutely agree that it is really important to take good care of those collection and appreciate every aspect of them! 👊🏻❤️
There needs to be consequences for this. This rot goes all the way to the top of the food chain at WotC and probably Hasbro -- the housecleaning is long overdue.
i agree, penguinlust, these kind of actions, if actually true, can’t stand. i lost all respect for wotc!
Bank of America is probably pistol ready for another Stock Downgrade LOL
@@59thsurvivorofvhs how much further down can they downgrade them!? 😂😂
Here, all of that would have ended up in thermal recycling, there are not many open landfills left.
in germany, markus? i indeed think they would have not been disposed of that way over here, indeed!
I heard of people searching landfills for old harddrives with bitcoin on them. Now we are here, scavenging for the power 9. :D
yes, exactly! crazy times, my friend! 😱😂👊🏻
I knew District 9 Was about us and not the Aliens! Nailed that movie first viewing LOL
april wow! maybe time to dumpster dive wotc buildings lol
i bet people have actually tried that! 😂👊🏻
What seems to be the problem here? There doesn’t seem to be any kind of ethical issue as far as I can see. I’m not sure how it hurts the game either. I don’t want to give WOTC any kind of benefit of the doubt here, but what is it that is causing the vitriol over this situation? I feel like I’m missing something fundamental here
thanks for your comment, jackson, appreciate it! the problem is lying to customers about overprinting of product, failing to aknowledge product fatigue and having too many set and then destroying longterm value and brand perception by literally dumping product. not to mention the slap in the face to anybody who bought this product for the full price.
absolutely tragic!