Not all of us can afford to open even 1 case of booster boxes let alone multiple, so easier pull rates are quite nice but they don’t need to be too easy. They just needed to make sure you got at least 1 sir or hyper rare per box and not be a complete crap shoot like these last two sets.
I agree with Matched… we dont get to spend much money on the hobby and when we do my son pulls the 151 Zapdos(our biggest pull) and it had a dent on it😢harder pull rates would be the worst but when you finally get to pull a great card and its quality is bad, breaks your soul.
@JTrain1118 if its a small set I agree with you. But CZ did it right. Having 70 cards to chase and 35 of the being harder to pull means you have fun opening packs in general (kids or casuals) but you still have a chase as you may pull a hit in every 3 or so packs but it's still around 1 in 600 to pull a specific gold and 1 in 200/300 for the vstar alts.
My take: Pokemon messed with the pull rates (somewhat) to try to rekindle that chase mentality for *collectors* that largely defined much of the Sword and Shield era. They obviously know this era isn't being as well-received by collectors. I don't think it's working and obviously, it's not the same as the SW & SH secret rare alt arts, but I guess time will tell.
I just wanted to update that I splurged on Twilight Masquerade. Over 120.00$ worth of product and not even an alt art, the rarest pull was a palafin ex, normal. These rates are garbage. I got like 8 monkidori’s
@calhimself6552 they nerfed the pull rates for a reason, I am sure . I'd stay far away from anything single you buy. I normally got for a card or something close to it. Opening in massive quantities is the way to go, it seems like . I opened 75 booster packs in my newest video and didn't do too badly. But not the best . The best way to go is single booster sleeve packs . Let's say you buy 10 Twilight Masquerade Booster Sleeve packs . You'll probably only pull one ultra rare ... maybe 2 at best. It's seems like it's one of seven packs . I feel like it . Chrck out my opening man . I'd appreciate it .
@@calhimself6552i bought a case and cracked one bb. It was pretty loaded. Not crazy hits but alot of hits , the chansey. And last pack was Lanas aid. Didnt realize how hard this set was. Bought the greninja right away bc I knew it was about 1 in 1k packs which is 3-4k dollars chasing
I haven’t been effected enough to feel an effect for reprints since I’ve only started collecting last year. But of the new sets, pull rates are iffy…after a few booster boxes and I still miss a few regular cards makes me mad. I’m not including IR, SIR,….just commons and uncommons as I attempt to master set.
im a new fan that got into pokemon when paldean fates came out. It's not fun spending hundreds attempting to master set, and buying booster boxes getting no SIR or Hyper rares isnt fun. I started playing the tcg, and i wish i could rock alternate art cards but unfortunately its too expensive.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind a return to high alt art rate pulls and twice the amount of IRs and SIRs like what we saw with Crown Zenith! It makes you want to buy more of the six pack booster bundles and less likely to pull the same thing twice. Also, Crown Zenith art work was sooo good. We need another set dedicated to IRs over commons. Imagine a set that’s all full arts and IRs. That set would sell out!
1 BB, 13 hits . 1 sir, couple full arts, couple IRs, 2 specs and rest EXs… I’ll take it lol I’m done opening ;) will buy some singles later tho! Lana sir and tatsugiri!!
I got 144 sleeved boosters and it ended up being an amazing decision for me. Have all but 6 of the cards and I pulled carmine, greninja, blood moons ursa, perrin, buddy and so so so many more.
Not even trolling.. I pulled the Teal Mask Ogerpon EX Special Illustration Rare in my first pack, the Cornerstone in my 2nd pack and the Illustration Art Phione in my 9th pack! I bought 20 packs, every other pack had a banger in it!
That's awesome! I've only bought 3 packs. Got Teal mask ex, (not full art just regular ex), boring regular holo, then the SIR Greninja ex. I almost had a stroke. lol
My sis and I opened 20 packs. I opened 6 packs and my sis opened an ETB plus 5 packs. I pulled 2 Ace Specs and my sis pulled 2 regular ex cards, Full Art Scream Tail ex, and a heliolisk ultra rare. She got wrecked with her ETB. If you want the promo, box and loot I guess it's worth it, but I'd avoid the ETBs. ^^'
Pull rates are still better than they have been in the past before the trainer gallery era. I remember opening boxes of Evolving Skies and only getting 4 pulls with the best pull being a Vmax. It’s interesting to see see how pull rates affect appeal and sentiment toward sets simultaneously
Yes, in fact, I had that very experience with evolving Skies...and due to that, I stopped buying boxes, and have a very negative feel for that set -- where I spent so much money and got so little. 😞
I actually like the tough pull rates, I love the art and I like the idea of a chase. Ive been trying to master set a few S&V sets but this one and temporal will be a challenge
@@tempest6970I’ll open a couple boxes and then buy what I’m missing after a few months. I did buy some eevees when the pre sale was $25. I kinda anticipate a buyout on eevee based off the last few sets
Welcome back emo Danny. I have a hunch that because of batched printouts and batched distributions, and because we have to assume that they don’t randomize or shuffle the lots that they pull from when filling orders from warehouses, you could expect to see pockets within regions that have super low pull rates of a specific card, or super high rates of one. Example my DOZENS of gosh darn drampa and roaring moon holos all pulled from my local big box’s single sleeeved boosters
Yep, that started around 2016 btw. Wasn’t an issue before that as you could master most sets within 2-3 cases. WoTC even easier in only 1-3 boxes. Once the sets started becoming bloated in mid S&M, it basically became an issue of people being able to master too easily when TPCI wanting to move away from that to also facilitate the namesake of the hobby… trading; so batching was introduced. I know that for a fact but even someone who didn’t can easily see this with people like CTR and Rev living in the same area and getting almost exactly the same pulls, while Vault is having a completely different experience on the west coast. It’s all there for anyone to piece together quite easily.
It's possible you were a bit more lucky, but hit rates were up a little everywhere except for Ace Specs. So it's nice to see. As usual, I love seeing all the data.
Oh so Pokemon doesnt publish ratios! This is a great video.... im learning quickly 😆.... I'd love to see a video of you building a deck from TWM... sort of breaking down why certain cards are important for battling.... you mentioned the Dragapult ex is the one "you want to get".... curious why? The players guide from the trainer box doesn't highlight that particular card..... (my daughter and I love the guide book... reminds me of old video game guide books lol)
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I dont like TM one bit. But I do love the numbers. CZ as an example I have opened over 6000 packs. The pull rates are "easy". I have many less than 10 PSA 10s each of all the top 10 cards and my eye is about a 73% psa 10s.
Pull rates are ehh, fine, but I obviously wouldn't mind them being a little easier. Really, I just want to collect a bunch for the art, but I'm starting to feel bad about all the bulk I'm accumulating lol. Gotta think of something to do with them.
Love this set. Starting this year I've been buying singles since it's so so much cheaper to complete a set that way. So I don't really mind the pull rates lately.
I opened a booster box, an ETB, a build and battle box, and 4 loose packs, and I only pulled 5 gallery cards and 2 full arts. These pull rates are so bad that I plan on not spending another dime on S&V until mega evolutions are back.
I would really enjoy the masterset, there is no way I can pull/buy one... Huge giveaway again! I really enjoy the angle of your channel, I can understand better the market with your videos... Keep exposing your POV! 👍👍
With those rates, if you arent selling off the extras there is no way its worth pulling your own complete set. Definitely only buying singles of the cards I like
Just a small error on your spreadsheet, Danny. You have 22 IRs listed and this set only has 21. The Swablu is the extra one. Always love these data videos though!
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I hate the pull rates getting harder. It is depressing to get a booster box without an SIR.
Not all of us can afford to open even 1 case of booster boxes let alone multiple, so easier pull rates are quite nice but they don’t need to be too easy. They just needed to make sure you got at least 1 sir or hyper rare per box and not be a complete crap shoot like these last two sets.
That is true, too
I agree. I bought one box and it was a lot more fun than my paradox rift boosterg
I agree. Does this guy not answer any questions?
What is the best semi recent set to get the best hits?
I think pull rates should be better than the recent sets.. Idc if the value of the cards are lower that way!
I agree with Matched… we dont get to spend much money on the hobby and when we do my son pulls the 151 Zapdos(our biggest pull) and it had a dent on it😢harder pull rates would be the worst but when you finally get to pull a great card and its quality is bad, breaks your soul.
A zapdos is still great pull hope you can still enjoy it despite the dent!
I feel like every set that's not Crown Zenith has rough pull rates. Every set should have Crown pull rates imo.
agree
agree, very disappointed they have lowered the SIR/HR pull rates in the last few sets
Base S&V and paldea had good pull rates for anything > double rare. Otherwise yeah crown zenith is still the 🐐
Disagree. If everything is easy to pull the cards lose all value. The ‘chase’ card of the set would be worth $5
@JTrain1118 if its a small set I agree with you. But CZ did it right. Having 70 cards to chase and 35 of the being harder to pull means you have fun opening packs in general (kids or casuals) but you still have a chase as you may pull a hit in every 3 or so packs but it's still around 1 in 600 to pull a specific gold and 1 in 200/300 for the vstar alts.
My take: Pokemon messed with the pull rates (somewhat) to try to rekindle that chase mentality for *collectors* that largely defined much of the Sword and Shield era. They obviously know this era isn't being as well-received by collectors. I don't think it's working and obviously, it's not the same as the SW & SH secret rare alt arts, but I guess time will tell.
I just wanted to update that I splurged on Twilight Masquerade. Over 120.00$ worth of product and not even an alt art, the rarest pull was a palafin ex, normal. These rates are garbage. I got like 8 monkidori’s
Which boxes or packs did you open ?
That is awful lol
@@ICOLLECTBASEBALL an ETb, the 3 pack of boosters, and the rest were single packs. Worst luck I’d ever had
@calhimself6552 they nerfed the pull rates for a reason, I am sure .
I'd stay far away from anything single you buy. I normally got for a card or something close to it.
Opening in massive quantities is the way to go, it seems like .
I opened 75 booster packs in my newest video and didn't do too badly. But not the best .
The best way to go is single booster sleeve packs .
Let's say you buy 10 Twilight Masquerade Booster Sleeve packs . You'll probably only pull one ultra rare ... maybe 2 at best.
It's seems like it's one of seven packs . I feel like it .
Chrck out my opening man .
I'd appreciate it .
My best pull was Growlithe illustration rare in the booster box.
@@calhimself6552i bought a case and cracked one bb. It was pretty loaded. Not crazy hits but alot of hits , the chansey. And last pack was Lanas aid. Didnt realize how hard this set was. Bought the greninja right away bc I knew it was about 1 in 1k packs which is 3-4k dollars chasing
I haven’t been effected enough to feel an effect for reprints since I’ve only started collecting last year. But of the new sets, pull rates are iffy…after a few booster boxes and I still miss a few regular cards makes me mad. I’m not including IR, SIR,….just commons and uncommons as I attempt to master set.
I pulled 1 illustration rare out of 12 packs and one ace spec. I wasn't thrilled.
I'd gladly have harder to pull rates if they could produce cards of quality
Ugh..that's the worst. Finally get a good pull and the centering is horrible. Usually end up having to re-buy the single anyways.
I give up. Pull rates absolutely sucks
I absolutely love the chase but there is nothing worth chasing is the last two sets and looks like the next specialty set will follow suit.
im a new fan that got into pokemon when paldean fates came out. It's not fun spending hundreds attempting to master set, and buying booster boxes getting no SIR or Hyper rares isnt fun. I started playing the tcg, and i wish i could rock alternate art cards but unfortunately its too expensive.
singles baby singles. may still be hundreds but you are at least guaranteed getting what you need.
Love the harder pull rates but Save and buy singles.
Get use to it.its always been like this.
Haven't opening any yet but the Luminous Energy Gold card is probably the best gold card I have seen it years. The colors just really pop
It’s crazy how it seems like some cards don’t exist because you can never pull it
Personally, I wouldn’t mind a return to high alt art rate pulls and twice the amount of IRs and SIRs like what we saw with Crown Zenith! It makes you want to buy more of the six pack booster bundles and less likely to pull the same thing twice. Also, Crown Zenith art work was sooo good. We need another set dedicated to IRs over commons. Imagine a set that’s all full arts and IRs. That set would sell out!
Thanks Danny for all info. 2,376 packs and still no master set is absolutely crazy.
1 BB, 13 hits . 1 sir, couple full arts, couple IRs, 2 specs and rest EXs… I’ll take it lol I’m done opening ;) will buy some singles later tho!
Lana sir and tatsugiri!!
I got 144 sleeved boosters and it ended up being an amazing decision for me. Have all but 6 of the cards and I pulled carmine, greninja, blood moons ursa, perrin, buddy and so so so many more.
I don't mind the pull rates as long as the quality is good on them and the value stays decent. But that's not the case at all
I’m just going to get a few random packs. I prefer easier pull rates….it make it more fun especially when your on a budget.
There is no Swablu illustration rare in this set, I’m not sure what card it’s mistaken for bc they all appear to be listed already
That binder is really cool. I really hope they turn SV around soon. Bad pull rates and lackluster cards is a recipe for disaster
I'm one of those in between folks that doesn't mind pull rates rn 😅
Man, Pokémon made it so easy to pass on this set. Just gonna grab the 3 or 4 cards I want.
Still hate the pull rates. SV01-SV03 was the best imo
Not even trolling.. I pulled the Teal Mask Ogerpon EX Special Illustration Rare in my first pack, the Cornerstone in my 2nd pack and the Illustration Art Phione in my 9th pack! I bought 20 packs, every other pack had a banger in it!
That's awesome! I've only bought 3 packs. Got Teal mask ex, (not full art just regular ex), boring regular holo, then the SIR Greninja ex. I almost had a stroke. lol
I want that EEVEE alt art! sick vid bro! WOW 3,000 packs!!
My sis and I opened 20 packs. I opened 6 packs and my sis opened an ETB plus 5 packs. I pulled 2 Ace Specs and my sis pulled 2 regular ex cards, Full Art Scream Tail ex, and a heliolisk ultra rare. She got wrecked with her ETB. If you want the promo, box and loot I guess it's worth it, but I'd avoid the ETBs. ^^'
I've opened a few bb of this set, and I'm shocked on the pull rates. Better then I thought. Hell I'll go with it
It’s definitely been a big change of pace for people who got back into Pokemon during scarlet and violet with these pull rates!
I really like his much effort you put into this, I just found you and It's crazy how much I learn from each video. Thank you for your hard work 🔥🔥🔥
Bought 2 booster boxes and got no sirs or golds, opened on etb and got gold teal mask ogerpon and sir greninja
The eevee is my chase. I love all the eeveelutions sm
Opened a booster box, got lots of hits. Very happy and this artwork is next level. The holo on some of the cards is so pristine as well.
Pull rates are still better than they have been in the past before the trainer gallery era. I remember opening boxes of Evolving Skies and only getting 4 pulls with the best pull being a Vmax. It’s interesting to see see how pull rates affect appeal and sentiment toward sets simultaneously
Yes, in fact, I had that very experience with evolving Skies...and due to that, I stopped buying boxes, and have a very negative feel for that set -- where I spent so much money and got so little. 😞
I want a yellow binder like that for vivid voltage
Danny you might as well post the hit rates for Crown Zenith because thats what everyone is spending their collection dollars on.
Really love the festival theme of this set. Thanks for showing off the binder and pull rates ~
I actually like the tough pull rates, I love the art and I like the idea of a chase. Ive been trying to master set a few S&V sets but this one and temporal will be a challenge
As good as the art is I want the value to reflect it for the special illustrations
will you be buying them or buying packs?
@@tempest6970I’ll open a couple boxes and then buy what I’m missing after a few months. I did buy some eevees when the pre sale was $25. I kinda anticipate a buyout on eevee based off the last few sets
I pulled the eevee today!! 4th TM pack!!
Welcome back emo Danny.
I have a hunch that because of batched printouts and batched distributions, and because we have to assume that they don’t randomize or shuffle the lots that they pull from when filling orders from warehouses, you could expect to see pockets within regions that have super low pull rates of a specific card, or super high rates of one. Example my DOZENS of gosh darn drampa and roaring moon holos all pulled from my local big box’s single sleeeved boosters
Yep, that started around 2016 btw. Wasn’t an issue before that as you could master most sets within 2-3 cases. WoTC even easier in only 1-3 boxes.
Once the sets started becoming bloated in mid S&M, it basically became an issue of people being able to master too easily when TPCI wanting to move away from that to also facilitate the namesake of the hobby… trading; so batching was introduced.
I know that for a fact but even someone who didn’t can easily see this with people like CTR and Rev living in the same area and getting almost exactly the same pulls, while Vault is having a completely different experience on the west coast.
It’s all there for anyone to piece together quite easily.
It's possible you were a bit more lucky, but hit rates were up a little everywhere except for Ace Specs. So it's nice to see.
As usual, I love seeing all the data.
I have been so lucky with my box. I had the SIR Kieran, both Dragapult, the Eevee and Tatsugiri as main hitters. Love this set.
I've opened up about 100 packs, most of that was 2 booster boxes, and I've pulled 2 SIRs. I can't complain I guess.
All I want is the special illustration rare greninja!!! That card is just beautifully masterful💯🙌🏼
For it to be a "chase", you have to have a chance
Fire mask was the 3rd SIR I pulled, but 300 packs in I still have not pulled a walking wake reverse holo.
Great break down. I'm happy to see the rates haven't gone below what they were in temporal forces.
That binder is slick!!!!
Oh so Pokemon doesnt publish ratios! This is a great video.... im learning quickly 😆.... I'd love to see a video of you building a deck from TWM... sort of breaking down why certain cards are important for battling.... you mentioned the Dragapult ex is the one "you want to get".... curious why? The players guide from the trainer box doesn't highlight that particular card..... (my daughter and I love the guide book... reminds me of old video game guide books lol)
I dont like TM one bit. But I do love the numbers. CZ as an example I have opened over 6000 packs. The pull rates are "easy". I have many less than 10 PSA 10s each of all the top 10 cards and my eye is about a 73% psa 10s.
How much do master sets normally cost in SV era? For a price comparison on how many booster boxes vs buying singles?
Pull rates are ehh, fine, but I obviously wouldn't mind them being a little easier. Really, I just want to collect a bunch for the art, but I'm starting to feel bad about all the bulk I'm accumulating lol. Gotta think of something to do with them.
Love this set.
Starting this year I've been buying singles since it's so so much cheaper to complete a set that way.
So I don't really mind the pull rates lately.
First set in awhile that I can safely skip, definitely picking up greninja when it drops
I would love to know how to male these binders myself 😢
Who made the custom binder for TWM? Do they sell the binders to anyone?
The Binder is so cool
I'm just now getting back into the Pokemon collecting/investing phase a couple of days ago, and the low pull rates are really interesting to see.
They are only low compared to the first few sets of the SV era. They are still up overall from most of pokemon card history.
I opened a booster box, an ETB, a build and battle box, and 4 loose packs, and I only pulled 5 gallery cards and 2 full arts. These pull rates are so bad that I plan on not spending another dime on S&V until mega evolutions are back.
Just pulled the carmine, but greninja is nowhere to be seen after 10 booster boxes and 4 etb’s
TAN! HE'S SO TAN!!!
The Greninja from this set looks so good!
I would really enjoy the masterset, there is no way I can pull/buy one... Huge giveaway again! I really enjoy the angle of your channel, I can understand better the market with your videos... Keep exposing your POV! 👍👍
Thanks for the info Danny! I was all upset at my pull rates but seeing I got 2 hyper rare out of 4 BB I guess I can’t complain 🤷🏽♂️
Anyone got advice, should I buy twilight singles now or wait? Im tryna complete master set
I haven’t minded SV pull rates, I think they’re overall better than SS except for crown zenith
I got so lucky, I got 6 packs and got SIR teal mask ogerpon, Lana’s aid SR and dragapult ex☺️
I have opened 8 booster boxes and have an average of 14 hits. With 5 alts and 3 gold. 2 alt inteleon.
45x packs pulled 2x greninja ex illustrator rare, 1x Kieran illustrator rare and 1x eevee illustration rare
got super lucky
I like the pull rates to be not really easy but not this bad.😊
You might have counted Sunflora twice in the Illustration Rare category since the first time it appears as Swablu.
I opened the 144 case of Sleeved Booster Master Carton yesterday. Not even a Growlithe smh. This has been by far the worst packs I’ve opened since LO
You did it. Great work!
My LGS has delay in receiving this new set, will open my BB next week! Can't wait!
Came back to the chase gang with the release of 151. I'm only going to buy singles from this set, give it about two months before I do that.
I think depends of the product you got more or less
I opened a booster box and got 12 hits, no hyper or SR, 1 ace spec 😅 brutal is putting it mildly
Thank you so much for informing us Danny!! It helps out so much!!
I opened 2 boxes first had no SIR or hyper rare. 2nd box had a both SIR and hyper rare lol. Still got some great full arts and IRs out of both.
With those rates, if you arent selling off the extras there is no way its worth pulling your own complete set. Definitely only buying singles of the cards I like
I'm probably only doing a little bit of this set, just for like pack battles here and there with my friends.
I'm done 200$ is good enough for me. No greninja but I can't keep throwing money down the drain. For a few descent cards.
I’m waiting on Shrouded Fable
I love Ogerpon.happy release day everyone
You've got a hard time convincing me 151 isn't the best IR gallery of the era so far.
Hey, dropping my comment in hopes for that amazing binder
I think I contributed to Pokémon’s success most through 151
Still debating on whether or not I’m going to buy some T.M. for my kid. These sets get released faster than I’d like.
I opened one TM BB and I felt cheated lol. Felt about as bad as battle styles lol
Just a small error on your spreadsheet, Danny. You have 22 IRs listed and this set only has 21. The Swablu is the extra one. Always love these data videos though!
Is there a return on investment for 3k packs?
love your videos, best pokemon videos on youtube
DKcards pulled two heat fire masks from one box. 🤔
Can we buy custom binders like that somewhere. I’d be interested
Love your videos sucks some of us cannot buy pack after pack due to hospital bills
Don't worry Danny. The card is on the way!
Can’t wait to open this set! 😀
Such a beautiful set!