The thing I noticed about using fake and real gold leaf is that the fake stuff doesn't look bad ... until you see the real stuff beside it. Then it's night and day.
Yes, that's really true. looking back at my experiences with other gilding methods like the one from the targe, the difference would be even larger. But where in "daily re-enactment live" do you have such a close comparison? :(
Gold leaf must be brilliant for adding corrosion resistance to high carbon steel; I sweat really heavily in my armor, I'm going to try adding some guilding inside where I've noticed and had to maintain corrosion and pitting on some parts. Spray beak cleaner is my favorite thing for degreasing metal
@@cascadianrangers728 As a chemist I say you it's very bad method for corrosion reststance... If you plating WHOLE item, it's OK, but if you have mixed surface - gold plated and "clean", if you'll not protect it (f.e. some transparent varnish), you can ruin it. Precious metal (f.e. gold) plus base metal (f.e. iron) plus water (always in air) gives electrochemical cell, what means corrosion. Gilding with gold leaf ON some non-conductive base (f.e. oil mixtion) is better, because there is no electric contact between metals... Of course if you proper protect such mixed surface (electroplated and non-electroplated) with some hydrophobic agents (f.e. oils, especially in guns) can protect it. But using gold as "corrosion resistant layer" for protection of high carbon steel object, which somebody use it for fighting (sweat, bad weather and impacts) is rather bad idea, because gold will accelerate corrosion, when golden layer will be damaged (easy after impact). If you want to have beautiful shining helmet, standing on your desk - it's OK. If you want to fight in it - no, no, no.
@@CatboyChemicalSocietykinda a lie the tools usually cost more. A good decent kit alone runs around 600 USD and above for brush plating. Plus don't forget that brush plating is very risky on steel due to the chemicals speeding up oxidation. For experienced people it's fine but not a fun time for newbies. I've seen way to many people ruin their projects because it started to rust the next day. Either way it's gonna be a good bit of money since your working with gold, whether it be through electro or leaf
Doesnt the gold scrape off the second something slightly scratches it? I cant see it hold long when you get hit in the face with a sword. Edit: Nevermind I just watched the ending lol
@@TheShielderyРеспіратор не допоможе.. Золочення ртуттю необхідно проводити у витяжній шафі.. Повітря з шафи не викидайте в атмосферу щоб не забруднювати і не отруювати екологію.. Повітря з парами ртуті пропускайте через холодну воду..ртуть конденсується у воді...не матимете шкоди здоров'ю і екології.. Успіхів
@@gamingdisconnect5008 nothing. only oil mixition works on metal and is doable by non professionals :( I'd recommend the 6h option above the 3h one though.
the real trensfer gold leaf: www.kremer-pigmente.com/de/shop/blattgold-vergolderprodukte/blattgold-blattsilber/98422-blattgold-dukaten-doppelgold-transfer.html Please like my reply in order for me to know that youtube let the comment with an external website link pass XD
Das würde ich empfehlen: www.kremer-pigmente.com/de/shop/blattgold-vergolderprodukte/lacke-bindemittel-grundierung/98104-koelner-classic-oelmixtion-12-h.html Aus irgendeinem Grund wird diese Marke von Kremer pigmente nur an "Professionelle Anwender" = "Menschen mit Gewerbeschein" verkauft; Aber ich bin mir sicher, dass du, falls du keine Kleingewerbe (oder größer) hast, schnell eine gute Alternative finden wirst. Bei anderen Anbietern wird das glaube ich nicht vorausgesetzt. In dem video verwende ich eines mit nur 3h, aber das würde ich nicht nocheinmal kaufen und auch nicht weiterempfehlen, weil es bei bestimmten Umweltbedingungen auch nur 90 oder 120 min wartedauer sein könnten. Bei 12h hast du das Problem nicht in dem Ausmaß.
Wow, nice armor, each and every rivit is so small and so preferct and uniform, the articulation also looks extensive; I would love to see the gauntlets, something worth of guilding indeed! This looks like it was made for tournament of foot, and not jousting or mounted use?
brigantine bei armours.pro , Arme, Beine, Sbatons+Schuhe und Helm ist von medieval extreme. Handschuhe, Wappenrock und Waffe von Lemberg armour. Den schild hab ich selber gemacht, tutorial auf diesem Kanal :) .
@@TheShieldery danke für deine antwort,sagmal was für eine sprache gab es in jerusalem ab 1180 und passt es zum grab kreuz tattoo jerusalem in der sprache oder ist arabisch die alte sprache?im netz findet man nichts.lg
weil dir da das Inlay und die Riemen anbrennen. Zudem oxidiert Messing stark. Es verkratzt zwar nicht so leicht, aber nach einer Saison ist es mehr grau als Gold. Beim polieren ist es dann auch schnell weg. Außerdem glitzert es nicht so schön.
Золочення на олію не дає хороших результатів... На металі краще золотити гальванікою..або гарячими видами золочення..наприклад ефірним золотом..або ртутним золотом...
The thing I noticed about using fake and real gold leaf is that the fake stuff doesn't look bad ... until you see the real stuff beside it. Then it's night and day.
Yes, that's really true. looking back at my experiences with other gilding methods like the one from the targe, the difference would be even larger. But where in "daily re-enactment live" do you have such a close comparison? :(
The real gold is really worth the extra expense. God bless
When it's your HELMET you know best especially when it comes to gilding and polishing it😂 great video with interesting and honest content👍
Very nice, quick, simple tutorial!
A burnishing tool would help with the wrinkles
Free armor trimming
Gold leaf must be brilliant for adding corrosion resistance to high carbon steel; I sweat really heavily in my armor, I'm going to try adding some guilding inside where I've noticed and had to maintain corrosion and pitting on some parts.
Spray beak cleaner is my favorite thing for degreasing metal
brush electroplating better and stronger coating also cheaper.
@@CatboyChemicalSociety That's an interesting sounding technique, I will look up how that works
@@cascadianrangers728 As a chemist I say you it's very bad method for corrosion reststance... If you plating WHOLE item, it's OK, but if you have mixed surface - gold plated and "clean", if you'll not protect it (f.e. some transparent varnish), you can ruin it. Precious metal (f.e. gold) plus base metal (f.e. iron) plus water (always in air) gives electrochemical cell, what means corrosion. Gilding with gold leaf ON some non-conductive base (f.e. oil mixtion) is better, because there is no electric contact between metals... Of course if you proper protect such mixed surface (electroplated and non-electroplated) with some hydrophobic agents (f.e. oils, especially in guns) can protect it. But using gold as "corrosion resistant layer" for protection of high carbon steel object, which somebody use it for fighting (sweat, bad weather and impacts) is rather bad idea, because gold will accelerate corrosion, when golden layer will be damaged (easy after impact). If you want to have beautiful shining helmet, standing on your desk - it's OK. If you want to fight in it - no, no, no.
@@CatboyChemicalSocietykinda a lie the tools usually cost more. A good decent kit alone runs around 600 USD and above for brush plating. Plus don't forget that brush plating is very risky on steel due to the chemicals speeding up oxidation. For experienced people it's fine but not a fun time for newbies. I've seen way to many people ruin their projects because it started to rust the next day. Either way it's gonna be a good bit of money since your working with gold, whether it be through electro or leaf
Doesnt the gold scrape off the second something slightly scratches it? I cant see it hold long when you get hit in the face with a sword.
Edit: Nevermind I just watched the ending lol
Bist ein Künstler
Next time we can do fire gilding with mercury
Freddy Said No. Mayby I should ask Alice kooper, cause its a lot of poison.... XD
@@TheShieldery i do it, on brass, bronze and maybe as an experiment also on steal. All safe in a fume hood and safe clothing etc.
I wish this was done with proper fire gilding, dissolving gold in mercury and etching the gold onto the steel.
unfortunately highly toxic :(
@@TheShieldery
Respirators, filters, exhaust hoods etc.
There's so many ways to solve that non-issue. :)
@@MadmanDKDK The visier is quite Easy to loosen from the helmet; Thanks, I'll think about it.
@@TheShielderyРеспіратор не допоможе..
Золочення ртуттю необхідно проводити у витяжній шафі..
Повітря з шафи не викидайте в атмосферу щоб не забруднювати і не отруювати екологію..
Повітря з парами ртуті пропускайте через холодну воду..ртуть конденсується у воді...не матимете шкоди здоров'ю і екології..
Успіхів
Золочення ртуттю найміцніше із можливих..але є і інші способи...
Before applying gold what u applied on the helmet and armour and waited for how long ? Love from India and can we decorate the sword with same process
yes, you can and it was: Classic Oil Mixtion 3 h
@@TheShieldery thankyou brother ❤️
@@TheShieldery other than oil mixtion what we can use ?
@@gamingdisconnect5008 nothing. only oil mixition works on metal and is doable by non professionals :( I'd recommend the 6h option above the 3h one though.
@@TheShieldery ok brother I'll follow the same 👍🏻❤️💕
Super useful tips
Do you have a link for the leaf?
the real trensfer gold leaf: www.kremer-pigmente.com/de/shop/blattgold-vergolderprodukte/blattgold-blattsilber/98422-blattgold-dukaten-doppelgold-transfer.html
Please like my reply in order for me to know that youtube let the comment with an external website link pass XD
Super Video, das werde ich mal bei meinem Schwertknauf probieren. Welches Öl benutzt du denn, um das Gold aufzutragen? VG
Das würde ich empfehlen: www.kremer-pigmente.com/de/shop/blattgold-vergolderprodukte/lacke-bindemittel-grundierung/98104-koelner-classic-oelmixtion-12-h.html
Aus irgendeinem Grund wird diese Marke von Kremer pigmente nur an "Professionelle Anwender" = "Menschen mit Gewerbeschein" verkauft; Aber ich bin mir sicher, dass du, falls du keine Kleingewerbe (oder größer) hast, schnell eine gute Alternative finden wirst. Bei anderen Anbietern wird das glaube ich nicht vorausgesetzt. In dem video verwende ich eines mit nur 3h, aber das würde ich nicht nocheinmal kaufen und auch nicht weiterempfehlen, weil es bei bestimmten Umweltbedingungen auch nur 90 oder 120 min wartedauer sein könnten. Bei 12h hast du das Problem nicht in dem Ausmaß.
@@TheShieldery danke dir für Deine ausführliche Antwort. Dann probier ich es mit dem 12h wenn du das empfiehlst.
Cool.
Wow, nice armor, each and every rivit is so small and so preferct and uniform, the articulation also looks extensive; I would love to see the gauntlets, something worth of guilding indeed!
This looks like it was made for tournament of foot, and not jousting or mounted use?
Thank you! :)))) it's for Buhurt :) . I am afraid it would get scraped of on the gountlets way to fast :( .
Interessante Technik. Ich wäre aber froh gewesen wenn du vorne am Video noch etwas mehr zur Beleglage gesagt hättest :-)
Wo hast du deine rüstung gekauft?
brigantine bei armours.pro , Arme, Beine, Sbatons+Schuhe und Helm ist von medieval extreme. Handschuhe, Wappenrock und Waffe von Lemberg armour. Den schild hab ich selber gemacht, tutorial auf diesem Kanal :) .
@@TheShieldery danke für deine antwort,sagmal was für eine sprache gab es in jerusalem ab 1180 und passt es zum grab kreuz tattoo jerusalem in der sprache oder ist arabisch die alte sprache?im netz findet man nichts.lg
Was für ein geiles Ende Dumme frage wiso machst du es nicht woe felix oder Armory smith mir ner Messingbürste ?
weil dir da das Inlay und die Riemen anbrennen. Zudem oxidiert Messing stark. Es verkratzt zwar nicht so leicht, aber nach einer Saison ist es mehr grau als Gold. Beim polieren ist es dann auch schnell weg. Außerdem glitzert es nicht so schön.
@@TheShieldery Faire Argumente
Muito legal ❤
Золочення на олію не дає хороших результатів...
На металі краще золотити гальванікою..або гарячими видами золочення..наприклад ефірним золотом..або ртутним золотом...
That looks terrible what a waste of time