Im a trucker on the oilfield. I don't have a lot of time to search through books. Thanks for doing it for me and putting it on TH-cam so that guys like me can listen as we drive.
Jesus will return after Jerusalem gets nuked by the abomination which causes desolation mentioned in Matthew 24. 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth-Gog and Magog-and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 31“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ 41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Jesus is the only created being of God. Through Jesus ALL things were made. 5For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. ♾️ Infinity is closed loop because the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. God is the singularity responsible for the big bang and according to the many laws of conservation that singularity had to be equal to or greater than all of the mass, energy, and information/intelligence in the universe, past, present, and future combined. And since things are neither created of destroyed, only transferred or transformed, this means God became the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. God is everything everywhere. Jesus must reign until he has defeated all of his enemies. ALL Power, Dominion, and Authority... Then the last enemy to be defeated is DEATH itself. Then he will return the kingdom to the Father, so that God may be ALL in ALL The Lord says to my lord:[a] “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” 24Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. The Earth is HELL in the future. It gets hit by an asteroid and pushed toward the sun. Isaiah 13:12-13, Revelation 9, 2 Peter 3 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. The New Jerusalem will take the best of humanity and the glory of the nations to a New Earth.
dont believe everything you hear in yt..actually , if you had time to study, you would see NONE , ZERO of apostoles, church fathers, bishops, early christians bellieve revelations happened in 70 ad..in actuallity, they all say rev was written after 90 ad!
plus, just a bonus..saying jesus doesnt return in bodily form and doesnt restore creation is unchristian..meaning f preterist are not christian and actually shun down as heresy and something to mark and avoid.
As soon as I began my studies in college and a professor pointed out that you have to read each book of the Bible with the goal of finding the author's original intent, that was so revolutionary to me. I don't know why something so simple gets overlooked by so many people (I was one of them), but as soon as you read these books in that fashion I feel that they become so much more alive. It all makes so much more sense.
Read each book Focus on……authors intent Wow Satan never said anything more convoluted than that Ok so your godless prof had a technique for you Did you know Jesus had a very DIFFERENT technique? Read it like a child! Way before you get brain fukkkkkkkkd in kolledge Oh by the way Just in case your thinking you’ve got some academic seniority here My first degree is BS in Chemistry Guessing you went to preacher school…
I could not agree more most of the books in the New testament were letters to individuals and churches and I know that when I read somebody's letter I don't go down to the third chapter and read two sentences and then try to determine that this is what he meant when he wrote this letter to me so what you're saying has immense value and I hope many people see your comment.
I’m currently enrolled in a seminar on the Gospel of Matthew; very much viewing it from that literary standpoint and assessing what might have been the author’s original intent. I agree with you, that method of reading the text opens it up in a brand new way.
There is a LOT of preterist content out there, but I'm very thankful that your timetable was truncated forcing you to fit all of Revelation into one session less than an hour long. Finding a concise teaching about the preterist view of Revelation to introduce to my children has been HARD, but this is just right! Thanks, brother!
I am like a child with this so your comment helped ME as a newer child (at 61 yrs old) to know where to start). TY. U never know when gods gonna use your comments to help others, right? ❤
The founder of preterism was a Jesuit named Luis de Alcazar. The whole intent was to avert the Protestants who believed that the pope was the Antichrist and to avert it somewhere else. Preterists believe that Nero was the Antichrist. But Jesus said there will be many antichrists or many that will come in my name saying I am the Christ. Nero never said that
The Jesuits also concocted the Zionist dispensational doctrines, so now you have two false belief systems at war with each other over doctrinal differences when they're both wrong.
I've watched this presentation about 5 times now, trying to get my head wrapped around this way of viewing Revelation. It is so different than what I'd been told by many sources over the years. But I'm glad I found it. Bruce makes Revelation so understandable I highly recommend others watch it. The viewpoint he presents is so logical it's like opening the blinds and letting sunlight on a mysterious book. Thanks for this presentation, its really helped me.
+LuvBorderCollies It took me quite a while to rethink Revelation as well. On the whole, I have found this a vastly more satisfying and helpful way to view this great book of the Bible! Thanks for your kind remarks.
LuvBorderCollies : I had no idea. I was saved 5 years ago. All I heard was the futurist approach. I began to read the Bible myself and found I was told a bunch of lies. I thought I was alone in what I thought. But I found people such as Bruce as well
I always knew the futurist approach was wrong but I didn't know what to believe and living in the Midwest where people worship at the altar of Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, I was worried I would never figure out the mystery of Revelation. Thank God for the internet. Everyone thought I was a heretic because I didn't believe in the rapture. So glad to see that theory losing ground. What a shame that those who hold to the futurist approach fail to see all the fantastic foreshadowing in Ezekiel, Daniel, etc. Holding the futurist approach also fails to give God the credit for fulfilling prophecy exactly as was presented to John in Revelation which lends even more credibility to the Bible. Discovered partial preterism 20 years ago and I now can enjoy reading the Bible.
Ann Chovey Praise God for having the discernment to leave dispensationalism - , they completely forget about audience relevance and context and insert a rapture or second coming into nearly every book. To put today’s world into Hebrew symbolic, poetic, language with all its different idioms is ridiculous and it takes away from the beauty of the story...... It’s tragic they turn Revelation, the unveiling of the beauty of Christ’s victory, into a scary vision of how they’ll be living if they get ‘left behind’. Good for you 🙏🏽❣️
A knowledge of history and not being afraid to welcome different ideas, with a sincerity to know the word of God, leads to a proper understanding of this book. Great job. Thank you.
@Scribeintheink Whether he is right is the question. There is surely no problem with looking at history and not agreeing with everything, like a regurgitating primary school child might do.
Will you please direct me to someone very knowledgeable in revelation, perhaps a minister/pastor I can talk to about end times matters? I really need help with it!
Thank you for this teaching. After almost 28 years of being a Christian and not being able to receive other explanations that I've had to reject, this teaching is a blessing!
Bruce Gore I second Diana’s comment and am wondering if you could suggest further reading? Also, please consider doing a lecture series that covers everything in this last video in more detail. It’s just such a bummer that you had to rush through the culminating lecture! Thanks and blessings!
I'm currently re-reading Chilton's Days of Vengeance. It's the best commentary on Revelation ever written and this series is the best on Revelation I've ever heard. God bless you Mr Bruce Gore.
I eschew labels, but one I've been very happy to wear in the last few years is "preterist." This perspective not only unlocks Revelation but the whole of the Bible. Excellent exposition, Mr. Gore. Many thanks for posting.
@Dakota Bledsoe Yeah it's proven false whereas all the futurist nonsense has been proven right , especially when it does not hesitate to throw into a remote future historical details like the women grinding at the mill (Matthew 24 ) , the slaves in the Roman Empire ( chapter 13) , the sound of the mill which will not be heard again in fallen Babylon (Revelation 18). When we dive into the prophetic texts , we see very easily that they relate to very old things . Futurists have not only taken us for fools but they have also turned Jesus into a liar since they refuse to believe what he said in his Olivet Discourse.
Bruce I continue to be blessed by your teaching. I’ve only been listening for two days now, but you do an amazing job. Thank you brother, and I praise God for the opportunity to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you for this sensible teaching, Bruce Gore. It is the balm of Gilead after decades of frenetic, sensational, rapture dispensational teaching. It washes over me like the water of the Word.
I have been digging in this sandbox for 6 months and had written a 50 page 15,000 words and 415 scriptures regarding this topic.I had not heard of the Preterest movement so I did not search before I began my Biblical search. After I had finished my work I sat down in the Living Room and said to my wife "John's word has to be mis dated". that was the missing link for me. This presentation has been very helpful. It also answers the "raised up with Him" that Paul spoke of from 62 ad and beyond. Great work!!
I simply cannot dismiss Bible prophecy and write it off as being completed in the first century. There is so much one has to change and crowbar to make the preterist view fit. I could never be a preterist as it doesn’t line up with the Bible and doesn’t make logical sense once you study biblical eschatology.
"Bible Prophecy was given to increase our Faith as the events foretold came to pass. The predictions of Futurism never come to pass. This false interpretation can never increase faith." "When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!" These quotes describe my journey out of the lie, and into the truth about the egregious doctrinal error of Dispensational Theology, which I learned from Independent Baptists and their blinded allegiance to Cyrus Scofield and his reference bible. My inner self, through guidance from the Holy Spirit, found it much more rewarding to be honest enough about my mistaken beliefs and then reject them, and to embrace the Truth, rather than choosing to continue in the errors of my misguided persuasions. Your TH-cam Channels have helped tremendously.
Thank you Mr Gore for a brilliant biblical presentation of Revelation. I hope you can preach it throughout the churches in your land. Great message. Great hope in Christ.
I went through the first 10 sections in two days. I want to say thank you for the thorough details with just being factual on what i can see is the honest postions.
Thank you for continuing to do the Lords work as a faithful teacher. I wish Church’s would share all perspectives of eschatology instead of 1 which is an unfortunate deception as one who was once a dispensationalist.
I've watched this series several times now, and I am always blown away by your brilliant, concise summary of the book. I have a feeling that it is even better than it would have been if you had had the three weeks you thought you were going to have! Looking forward to your series in the Fall...just don't forget the most marvelous creature in Revelation, the elephant! :)
Thank you for your presentation. I am currently reading Revelation and needed your video to help me understand what the book is about. Many thanks for your help.
Dear Bruce I am a 60 year old man who has been a born again Christian for over 30 years. In that time I have read, studied, been preached at and listened to all the various views of Revelation and Millennialism and have yet never been satisfied or totally convinced that any of them have been entirely and completely biblical. Until now. Thank you. This makes perfect sense. I feel like I’ve been born again…again! God Bless you and your ministry and teaching. You have a new student 😊
I am delighted to hear it. My only warning...don't believe anything because I (or anyone) said it, but only because in good conscience you come to be convinced that the Bible says it! Blessing friend.
@@GoreBruce …And as I’m new to your teaching and have yet to dig into all your resources I was just wondering…Do you hold that all of Revelation has been fulfilled then? And has the resurrection as mentioned in Daniel 12:2 already happened? Thank you.
The term generally applied to my view is 'partial preterist.' That means that the bulk of Revelation (but not all) describes the events associated with the transition from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant, which includes the dismantling of the structures of the Old Covenant (Jerusalem Temple, Levitical Priesthood, Animal Sacrifices, etc.). Chapter 20 describes an extended period of time in which Satan is bound by the gospel preventing him from deceiving people when it is faithfully preached. At the end of the extended period, there are events that bring human history to a conclusion. Those events still lie in our future.
@@GoreBruce OK that's great to know. Thank you Bruce. So that means the resurrection of Daniel 12:2 and 1 Corinthians 15 are still in our future and we are not currently living in the new heavens and the new earth?
May God Richly bless you. Thank you for a truly engaging lecture series. As a former Seventh-Day-Adventist (I left the SDA church in July of this year) I had a completely distorted view of the book of Revelation. You have whet my appetite to finally allow the Jesus to speak through this magnificent book
Interesting...the historical, continuous approach as taught by the SDA Church would seem to explain Daniel/Revelation better, there are gaps no doubt, but history is on their side....their view of the papacy as the anti christ also makes great sense
@@julieomusebe5996 I'm sorry but it does not. They say that the Great Whore of Babylon is the Catholic church which makes no sense at all since Babylon in Revelation is a CITY where the sound of the mill will never be heard again and where the blood of the PROPHETS has been found. Did the RCC kill the Old covenant prophets ? Who killed the prophets but Jerusalem ? Jerusalem in Rev is called Sodom , Egypt and Babylon. And she rides the beast (Rome) because the Jewish elites had no king but Caesar as they said to Jesus . The Jewish elites were very close to the Roman empire. They Reformers read their hatred of RCC (they were right to expose all her wicked deeds) in the book , which is certainly not the way we should try to understand what is written .
WOW! This was the absolute BEST explanation of the book of Revelation that I have ever heard. Thank you so much. I can't wait to share this with my family & friends! God bless you.
Thank you Bruce, and thank you Lord for raising up teachers for the perfecting of the Saints for the edifying of the body of Christ, well done and in only 48 minutes.
Thanks for your kind feedback. You may be interested in knowing that I am planning a much more comprehensive treatment of Revelation starting in the fall of 2019.
Yes I am interested, I was raised with dispensation and have been making my journey out of it for the last 15 years. That theological system is like a leaven, once it gets in you its difficult to get it all out. Lord willing I'll get totally free from it and teachings such as this have really been helpful. I will subscribe to your channel so I don't miss your more comprehensive teaching next fall. Thanks again.
I was only taught dispensational interpretation for most of my life and then I started searching out other ways of reading the prophetic literature in the Bible. Brother Gore does a fine job of this.
True, but at least the last part (chapter 20-22) seem to be talking about our times (the millennial time) and the future (final judgment and New Heavens and a New Earth). I think mr. Gore agrees with that, right? I'm not sure if he's a partial, full or extreme/hyper preterist?
I have only ever heard a slight description of this view from my historianist father (a teacher) who came from a long family line of the same. I always wondered about it. It makes a lot of sense. I can see through your teachings some good that has come out of each view as well as some folly. Your view I find comforting in the sense that it frees up the tension of an eminent "end time" and all it entails. It also stops blaming other schools of thought as if they become a salvation issue. The ultimate goal after all is accepting Jesus' forgiveness and believing in Him. To me all the other jargon are what separates us into different "tribes", but we are all of one faith. If we Christians can remember that and don't let them be our stumbling blocks we benefit all the more. Thanks for your wonderful and comprehensive history on the origins of each interpretation of Revelations. Thanks also for making it available on TH-cam for homebodies like myself.
The Preterist interpretation of the bible is completely wrong. Paul already addressed their views some 2000 years ago in his epistle to the Thessalonians. 2 Thessalonians 2New International Version (NIV)The Man of Lawlessness2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.They were claiming that Jesus second coming was over, and Paul rebuke them. This Paul has already debunked the Preterist view. Its in the bible and the Bible being the Word of God cannot lie. This Preterist teaching Error was already addressed by Paul, so now we do not need to listen to such wrong teachings. Beware of people who support their own special interpretation and contradicts the bible, which is the Ultimate Word of Truth.Joseph Ho2 seconds agoThe Preterist interpretation of the bible is completely wrong. Paul already addressed their views some 2000 years ago in his epistle to the Thessalonians. 2 Thessalonians 2New International Version (NIV)The Man of Lawlessness2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.They were claiming that Jesus second coming was over, and Paul rebuke them. This Paul has already debunked the Preterist view. Its in the bible and the Bible being the Word of God cannot lie. This Preterist teaching Error was already addressed by Paul, so now we do not need to listen to such wrong teachings. Beware of people who support their own special interpretation and contradicts the bible, which is the Ultimate Word of Truth.
Thanks for sharing. Your lecture is very intriguing, and this comes from the mouth of a premillennialist. Thanks for explaining your position succinctly.❤✝️🙏😇
@@GoreBruce Yes I have watched over 15 of your videos. A Nice contrast to John MacArthur... I got the full meal deal of all the experts on TH-cam 😃😁 th-cam.com/video/WKo3vn7OllI/w-d-xo.html
@ Jared Scot Brandon We are not supposed to be dumb churchians who swallow all the lies we are told in pulpits (and not just concerning eschatology) but Christians who follow Christ and the Word. That pastors can teach such futurist lunacy is beyond me. Moreover , they are all incapable of teaching what Revelation is about . Just throwing the same eternal platitudes as the "antichrist" , the so-called rapture , the "great tribulation" . I'm sick of all that.
I remember when I was a new Born Again. It was a Charismatic Assemblies of God church that was steeped in the, for lack of a better term, 'Left Behind' view. I bought into it too for a number of years. Then, I progressed to not being concerned about it, (Eschatology) as everything was "just around the corner'. I think gary called it Newspaper Exegiesis. There was always another 'sign'. It wore me out. Then I started coming across Postmillenialism and their arguments. I also came across Gary DeMar, and I think I heard of Dr. Gore through him. I'm still more of a pan-millenial than anything else, but I'm in the partial pretersit camp. Dr Gore, thanks for being clear and straightforward. I appreciate your teachings as they are sober and common-sense. I sincerely wish I'd have come across you sooner.
TO ALL PRETERISTS: Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy. REPENT, while you can
Fantastic! Best series of videos on Revelation that incorporates church history on the topic to present. I was a Dispensationalist, then pre-mil, then post and more recently A-mil partial preterist. (Also studied Adventism, SDA, JW and Hal Lindsey 1988 *ALL* failed end time eschatologies aka 7 times cults) Thanks again for sharing God's light on this confusing topic and its history. Matinata 👍🙏
Thank you for the logical, lucid, and conversational words. They really helped make this very complex book much more accessible. I look forward to watching your other series.
For the past three years, the Lord has impressed upon me the idea of "God's original intent" and understanding the language and culture of the text involved.
I was dispensational/futurist for 12 years. After guys like Bruce Gore, Ken Gentry, Jeff Durbin, Doug Wilson, and others I have completely shifted my position to postmill/partial preterist.
@@davidjohnson1536 there’s no such thing…. Replacement theology implies the church has replaced Israel. Covenant theology believes, as scripture teaches, that the Israel of God includes all those of faith….. Jew and gentile. Ephesians 2:11-19, Romans 11, Galatians 3:16&29, Philippians 3:3, etc. This was all prophesied in the OT. Go back and read Genesis 35:10-11 and Genesis 48:11-20. Israel would be a nation of Jews and Gentiles.
This is an excellent presentation! But one difficulty I have with preterist view of Revelation is that, although it relies heavily on the expression "the things which must soon take place" in chapter one verse one, this view doesn't actually hold that *all* of the things the angel communicated to John would, in fact, take place soon. The end of the millennium did not take place soon after the time of writing because the millennium only terminates after a extended period of time. The judgement at the great white throne and the descent of the new Jerusalem would not appear to have occurred in the first century. To me, the fact that only some of the events described in the book take place "soon" from John's perspective opens the door to historicist and futurist interpretations.
My personal view is that it is complete and the things you mentioned have already taken place. The millennium was a short time. 1000 (or thousand thousands) was symbolic of the completeness at the end of the age. And that would be the Mosaic age. When Jesus gave the apostles the ability to bind and loose it was then that He took authority away from the Jewish leadership. This started the 1000 reign of the Saints. Though they had not suffered martyrdom yet, they soon would be. The judgement of the great white throne had to have taken place because the temple was destroyed. There is no Mosaic law today to judge by. The great white throne judgement was for those that were under the Torah. Jews today cannot begin to fulfill the Torah. Once the temple was destroyed then we know that God completed this passage. The New Jerusalem is the church and there is no more sea. This represents that gentiles are now part of the sonship of God. There was no temple. God the Father and God the Son is the temple. Are we not in that temple now? So, it is fulfilled. There is no sun or moon. Meaning that under the old heaven and earth you had rulers, those in authority lording the word of God over the people. Now, God lights up everything. We learn from Him We listen to Him. We have direct contact with Him. We are kings and priests before God. This is accomplished already. Revelation is fulfilled. Thanks be to God for His kingdom and that He tabernacles with us now.
Bruce, thank you very much for doing this lecture and for the massive amount of content within. It took me about 4 hours total to get through 48 minutes of material and I'm so thankful for it. I have one question. I've watched several of your videos and am just wondering which approach (to Revelation, prophecy) do you cling to the most? Thanks again sir!
I 'cling' to the principle that every text of the Bible must be understood first, and primarily, in terms of its most probable meaning to those who were its original and intended audience. With respect to Revelation, I am planning a comprehensive treatment of the book beginning in the fall of 2019. Thanks for your interest!
Bruce Gore hey Bruce, I appreciate your in depth look at revelation. I do have a question about what you think the “new heavens and new earth” represents. That is the hardest thing for me to wrap my head around. Your study was very insightful, but most of the push back I get from this idea comes from 2 Peter 3:7-13 and Revelation 21 verse 1 and 4. Could you help shed light on how you resolve these with your understanding?
I wish to thank Dr Gore for a brilliant presentation. The fewer Christians, and Dr Gore is a True Christian, believe in the premillennial view the more likely His return us imminent. He will come when least expected, which is why I am a mid tribulation rapture believer who was CERTAINbHe wouldn't comebin 1988 or any other predicted date. Let the great apostasy come, as predicted.
I am glad someone knows how to break this down. A lot of preachers would think the guy on the white horse with a bow is the antiChrist. The sun turn dark when Christ died so that is part of what great day of the lord is, I believe.
Thank you, Bruce Gore. Excellent presentation, like your others. I just finished your APOCALYPSE IN SPACE AND TIME series, which I found essential in providing a solid overview. I am most thankful that God has brought me out of the false premillennial view I had formerly accepted as eschatological truth, which I now recognize as error. I had been believing the doctrines of men without taking it upon myself to study the KJV and research the history. Once I was willing to prostrate myself before God and acknowledge that I knew nothing, the Holy Spirit could begin to reveal what God's word is really saying. It does seem that much history has been hidden from us or pushed away by deception and distraction. My research of the Jesuit Order has convinced me of their expertise in deception in their influence in the church and higher education, none of it for the better. Looking forward to hearing more of your presentations. Thanks again.
I have only come across this presentation recently. I am enjoying it. I have read the account Josephus wrote about the atrocities being committed in Jerusalem during the siege. It is sickening and the Jewish people in Jerusalem actually did a good job of destroying Jerusalem themselves before the Romans got in and finished the job. Some very lucky people managed to sneak out of Jerusalem and they told Josephus what was happening in the city.
My end times theology follows the classical creeds of the church. Jesus is at the right hand of God the Father, from whence he will come to judge the quick and the dead. Thanks for your interest!
If you listen to this dissertation of Revelation without study for yourself, it sounds very convincing. And indeed there might be some truth here along with many descrepencies. One thing we shouldn't do is put ourselves in a box with labels as Preterists etc., because then we cease to hear and learn what the Holy Spirit would say to us. We would do well to listen to all views, discerning as we go.
The preterist views, I think, make the most sense. Thanks for this straight forward series of explanations to a rather complex book. However, is there a literal second coming of Christ? The angels, after Jesus ascended into heaven, made it clear that Jesus would be coming back in the same way he ascended.
Off course, there is a litteral coming of Christ, all the church fathers, the Creed's and the apostles believed and affirm Christ's physical return, although Bruce is right that most of the Olivet Discourse already happened in 70AD, the 2nd coming is still FUTURE. The safest but still orthodox book I could recommend is the "the Paroussia" by Stuart Russel. Full preterism is a fairly new concept, promoted by Max King in the 70's and then continued by Bell and Don Preston.
Hello Mr. Gore! I was wondering if I may remix this video on my channel? I, of course will give all credit and link back to your channel! Thank you so much for your teaching! God bless you!
That you spent hours on Dispensalism and rushed through Preterism leaves one more informed on the former and less of the latter...still looking to understand Revelation with Daniel in mind: the wound of the beast from the land, the beast from the sea and its two horns, the 666, given that Israel is clearly the woman in chapter 12, the two witnesses
Yeah, some schedule problems forced that unfortunate timing. I plan to spend a full year (or more) on Revelation beginning the fall of 2019, so stay tuned.
Thank you for this view. I’ve reviewed the Historicist view, the Futurist view but I’ve never heard the Prederist view regarding the Book of Revelation. As a passionate believer who loves to dive into the Bible for knowledge and nuggets of truth I’ve learned to keep an open mind and not hold onto one view of the truth, for the truth is ever expanding and unfolding. Also, the obvious parallel of the past whereby it’s the scholars and men of higher leaning who had misled the Jewish nation into missing the truth about the prophecies with regards the the first coming of their Messiah, makes me a little reserved to putting my faith in one view. With that being said, the prederist stands that the book of Revelation has already been fulfilled because of the opening remarks in the first chapter, whereby it states, “to show his servants things that will shortly come to pass.” This statement is the hallmark of why all of Revelation has already happened. This remark did puzzle me and left me a bit depressed to think that we in the present day have no prophecy or hope for our coming Messiah. It’s like we are to just dangle in suspense unawares of the signs for the return of our Messiah. Then I read Rev 3:11 “behold I come quickly hold fast to which thou hast.” And in many places Jesus say this phrase that he comes quickly. Yet more than 2k years later he has not yet come. Maybe thinking that the words “shortly” and “quickly” are viewed by Christ as imminent to our time is incorrect. For a thousand years for us is but a day for the Lord. So yes those things in Revelation will shortly come to past and the Lord is true to his word when he repeatedly states he comes quickly because time for him is not the same for us. For those Christians who just want to believe there is no endurance for the church to be purified and tried and tested and to be made white as snow like the Christians who were persecuted for his name sake and followed their savior by picking up the cross and following him. It means you don’t deserve him. For those who want to save their lives will lose it and those who lose their lives will save it. Conforming to the idea that the prophecies are done and we are in a Utopia and all is well is a dangerous way to live as a Christian because “he who endures until the end shall be saved”. There is a trial to befall the church, the bride of Christ because look at the church. It’s a 40k denominational mess and the Lord needs to separate the wheat from the tears. We must continue to study all views and combine the truths together by prayer and fasting and constant wrestling with the Lord.
In the “40k denominational mess” are 4.2 million churches and in those churches there have been billions of true Christians, both alive now and who have passed on. This is a pretty amazing feat considering at the time of Revelation, there were 7 letters to 7 churches! Jesus told us in the world we will have tribulation but He has overcome the world and as Christians we are in the world but not of the world. When we are saved, we are taken from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of heaven and our God, a kingdom that is not of this world. We are born again of spirit and we look for the life to come.
Is it true that Preterism has papal origins via Jesuits, Alcazar to counter the historical protestant view; References. The prophetic faith our fathers Vol. 2 Leroy Froom and G.S.Hitchcock, Alongside Futurism advanced by another Jesuit Ribera
Thanks Bruce. Question please. Jesus said in Chap 21, God will wipe away all their tears; there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, no pain, all former things are passed away. Are you saying this verse is fulfilled already?
The New Testament takes a view that might be called one of 'mocking' death, because it has lost its sting, as the grave has forfeited its victory (1 Corinthians 15:50ff). The author of Hebrews says that Christ destroyed the one who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and liberated those who through fear of death were all their lifetimes subject to bondage (Hebrews 2). When death is coupled with 'sorrow, crying, pain' it is safe to say that 'there is no more death.' For us death is merely the glorious move from a place of joy here to a place of unspeakably greater joy there.
@Tony Rowan The promise of 'no more death' is only for those who belong to Christ. There is indeed eternal wrath for the unrepentant. This is what the book of Revelation calls 'the second death.'
Bairdsley, I used to believe as you do until I realized, through biblical study, that such an approach comes from an attempt to make the Bible fit one's preconceived ideas. There is no interruption taught in the Scriptures. It is created by dispensationalists to accommodate their false presuppositions.
Of course the problem with this historical approach is that it creates exactly the same problem for every believer outside of the first century that it purports to relieve for those the book addresses. How come god gave comfort for those in the first century and left everyone else without guidance for whatever age they find themselves in? So that's problematic. You suggest the mercy of god forces us to adopt the historical approach and end by suggesting god is preferential.
1. Where are they NOW(!)??? 2. ARE THEY STILL insisting ON THEIR DOCTRINES? 3.Can you reach them w/ umpg.blogspot.com/2013/09/t002-grade-i-repentance-kun-pagbinag-o.html 4. include reach those you find needing more truths, and who is not ... We ALL therefore need TO BE REACHED ... preach & be preached with REPENTANCE as comprehensibly as PREACHED HERE!
I do not agree with this interpretation because I am a futurist. But I have to say it was a joy to listen to. Don't agree with much of the interpretations, but I always learn something from brother Gore!
Telling half of the story is telling half of the truth. seven seals, seven trumphets, seven vials, that's all OK. But when it becomes more difficult? What about the seven heads = hills = kings. Five of them already fallen, as John notes.Already in his time, just before he begins to write! Notice that ! Who are they? Who is number six and seven then? Who is number eight called the beast. It's simply history for us, isn't it?? Why can't they say it? IT IS THE KEY QUESTION ! AND THEY FAIL SO FAR. SOMEBODY ANY IDEA?
Yes, good question. You might find the quite competent analysis by Dr. Ken Gentry helpful, "The Beast of Revelation." www.amazon.com/Beast-Revelation-Kenneth-L-Gentry/dp/0930464214/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471611472&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=ken+gentry+beast+of+revelationThanks for your interest!
+Bruce Gore, Dr. Ken Gentry Says Nero is sixth. And he fails to tell who is seventh or eight ! That means he can not count to ten. I feel no need to buy a dvd from such a person or congressation. The debate is open HERE......
jhon describes a beast which looks like a leopard mouth like a lion and feet like a bear now where preterists lose me is when they say Nero is the beast becouse he behaved like leopard which is not in line with what the bible says the beast is a composite kingdom of Greece Babylon and Persia this according to the way I understand is the eighth king/kingdom which ascends from the bottomless pit which will cover the geographical areas where the three kingdoms covered
So much information to contain in a 48 min video.. I hope there would be a more elaborate version on this topic. I find perterist version to be more meaningful than the futurism. I approached preterism with a lot of scepticism, but the way it changed the whole meaning of the Bible is truly amazing. As the Lord said, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. I feel the freedom to its fullest now. When i believed in futurism, there was always a constant fear of the day of the Lord and always took measures to be pure and clean in case His day came upon suddenly. But when the evidence was laid that the day passed about 2000 years earlier and that we are currently living in the age of Christ and His peace, I was very relieved to know this and loved Him even more for all the riches in my life, that is Christ himself! Where there is love, there is no place for sins or griefs or other things that would bother your loved one, my beloved Lord.. I find it no longer necessary to take those measures to please Him, because His kingdom is already here, already in me!
Thanks for the question. First it is important to distinguish a 'preterist' approach to Revelation from 'preterism.' The latter affirms that all eschatological events took place in the first century, and that history simply continues thereafter with no terminus. The church has historically (and rightly) rejected that theory. A preterist approach to Revelation affirms that the book is chiefly concerned with events that took place in the first century, generally connected to the fall of Jerusalem in 70 a.m. That is the view I take. In this view, Jesus established his kingdom in the first century, declaring to his disciples 'all authority is given unto me.' The kingdom has been gradually but relentlessly growing since that time (as a mustard seed, cf. Dan. 2). We are called to 'seek first the kingdom of God,' that is, devote ourselves entirely to the growth by grace of the kingdom of Jesus. Jesus 'will reign until he has put every enemy under his feet, the last of which is death' (1 Cor. 15). At that point, history reaches its culmination, and Jesus delivers the kingdom to his Father, a finished work, to the eternal glory of God, and the blessing of his people.
Vina D. Vine I agree with Gore on this. However, I am a full preterist which is what he described as my approach to Revelation and Eschatology. But contrary to many beliefs about Preterism, I believe that God isnt done with us and is still with us even after the events of Revelation have occured. I do believe the Kingdom of God has been established and now in this New Heavens and Earth, we are to be people who produce fruits (as described in Revelation 22:1-5) to be the healing of nations. In other words, we are to bring people into God's Kingdom. Most people do thing the kingdom of God or New Jerusalem will be a physical kingdom but thats contrary to Scripture: Luke 17:21. The Kingdom of God (New Jerusalem) is not going to be seen I believe. Why? Because the New Covenant brings so much more Spiritual things than the old covenant and many things in the New Testament seem to hint at a spiritual Jerusalem. Galatiom 4:26 says "The Jerusalem above is free..." Which seems to talk about a Jerusalem in Heaven. Jerusalem in the old covenant was the center of the Religion and where God dwelt. But in the New Covenant, God dwells in us (1 Cor. 3:16, John 14:23, and many more) and the center of Christianity is Christ...not even the Church itself but Christ. The New Testament also Calls our bodies a temple of God and where was the Old Covenant Temple? Jerusalem. Other places in the New Testament, We are considered a New Creation (New Heavens and Earth?) Such as 2 Cor. 5:17. This all connects to perhaps the New Jerusalem is us and the Christian community since God dwells in us because we are his temple now (Just like He did in Old Jerusalem in the Temple) and the New Heavens and Earth are us as new creations as well as Heaven being opened to Believers and Earth/ Humanity has a connection to heaven because of Jesus. Not the best explanation but all these things connect and I hope you can see it. Even though I believe All events happened in 1st Century, I know God isnt done with us and that everything just ended. I hope this helps everyone who reads this. Im writing this to help, not to start arguments or negatively criticize Bruce Gore's view. God Bless and keep studying God's Word.
Vina D. Vine forgot to mention, since I dont believe God's finished, we should still follow the Commandments to our best ability and continue to preach to the lost.
@@GoreBruce and there is only ONE resurrection, right? The "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4 is spiritual, correct? I need this confirmation because I cannot find 2 resurrections of the righteous dead separated by 1,000 years and a future tribulation corroborated in scripture. Please confirm.
I follow the classic view worked out by Augustin, and followed by many others, that the 'first resurrection' refers to regeneration (cf. Rom. 6, for example), and the 'second resurrection is the resurrection of all people at the end of human history, in which some are raised to life and some to eternal death.
This was an excellent presentation. I have one question. When verse 1 says that these things must soon happen, why does that not include the white throne judgment?
It means 'the bulk of these things.' There is an exception in chapter 10, involving the 'seven thunders' of which John is told to 'seal up' the meaning, a phrase associated with events that will occur in the distant future. Similarly, chapter 10 speaks of 1000 years, which is a signal that the events described will await a later time. Thanks for your interest!
The Holy Spirit, in His revealing, makes it plain that most of the events of the book, the defeat of the harlot, the defeat of the beast, and the defeat of the false prophet are separated from the defeat of Satan and lastly death itself by a minimum of a thousand years. That gap, plus the fact that people, even today are physically dying, prove that not all of the events of Revelation have happened, thus the partial preterist point of view. Just keep in mind that as long as current evidence demonstrates that Satan and evil are still at work in the world and that death is still with us means that the end is still yet to be.
Here's what happened. Like Jesus promised, he came back soon after his crucifixion and resurrection. He reigned for 1000 years starting around year 70 AD. The Bible promised he would reign for 1000 years and after that... (Quote): Rev. 20:2-3 "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. " So, most people who lived in that millennium with Christ as king left with him and a few that didn't like it, were left behind. Then, God gave the kingdom to the devil for" a little season " to tempt the nations again. Rev. 20 As of that great disappearance, or reset, we are living the days of the" little season ". In order to re populate the world, either there was a great resurrection of people who in the past died without knowing about Jesus or Satan mass produced children in an unspecified manner (Rev 20:1-5). But here's the best part: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Preterists needed what we have found with this erased history, mudflood and Tartary phenomenon in order to make sense of their correct yet incomplete interpretation. Jesus ruled and reigned for 1000 literal years and Rev 20 had a literal fulfillment. We are now living in the little season of Rev. 20. Get your act together Preterists. People need your side of the story to make sense of all this information coming out!!
Never heard such a weird stuff: If the most of the things in the book of revelation happend already, where acutually are we living right now? In the millenium? No, that cannot be, because it was only for 1000 years and we have 2020 already. We must be in the new earth, right? Oh man.... what a strange teaching!
@@smashmouth1001 At the outset Bruce Gore offered hermeneutical principles for interpreting literature, biblical texts included. Do you agree with his methodology?
Its pretty simply, and is the easiest explanation: The 1000 years is not literal. There's many usage of "1000" to just refer to a large amount throughout the Bible. The 1000 years year would just mean: "a very long period of time as the Gospel spreads out across the world"
I'm full preterist. The second Coming was in A D. 70, Jesus visiting the apostate Jewish nation in judgement, rescuing His people from persecution by them and establishing the New Covenant. Under which the people of God are his Temple, City, and Kingdom in which He dwells through his Spirit, and who embody His presence in earth among men.
TO ALL PRETERISTS: Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy. REPENT, while you can
At the time, I didn't have 'the extra hour.' I am, however, launching a two year verse by verse study of Revelation in about a month (fall 2019). Hopefully you will be interested in following along!
Hi Mr gore, I want to start by saying thanks for these videos, I've watched all ten lectures, and I'm putting my comment on the last video, because I've just finished it, I've found all ten video's an excellent study of church history, I can see you've put a lot of time into your studies, and they are much appreciated, I starting a journey with preterism last year, and I do believe it, I would consider myself a partial preterist, are you full pret or partial pret, why I find it hard to except full, is because it doesn't leave much hope for a Christian, in regards to christ coming, do you believe there will be a future coming of christ, if so could you provide some scripture, really enjoyed your videos and have subscribed to your channel, my the Lord bless you.
Stephan Coertzen thanks for clarifying that,didn't know that's what they believe, I like Mr gore and Mr gentrys teaching, it's what I would believe that christ will come back fiscally.
Professor Gore, this is a wonderful lecture. I'm curious: Do you lean more toward full preterism or partial preterism? Do you believe Ezekiel 38 and 39 has already been fulfilled or that those chapters are still future? Thank you!
And so I have finished your first 10 videos on this .... to be honest Mr Gore, I still find it difficult to accept and am one that have read over Revelations many times over since the mid eighties. I became aware of preterist views since the mid 90s. Also I have read several books on church history from Broadbent's The Pilgrims Church,Earlier Cairns books, as well as a book by Dr Roy Fish concerning Baptist history. I took a good long look at Amillenialism in the 90s, and admit that I I do like the optimism it presents. But I have to still ask myself is it accurate though? I am looking at my library as I write this especially a book by George Eldon Ladd. Another section are some Messianic works as well as a book on how antisemitism rose in various denominations over the centuries. I also have consulted (ask questions concerning views and perspectives on the tribulation) with three authors (Mark Davidson, Joel Richardson, and Nelson Walters) on eschatology in the last five years concerning their premillennial views. So you can see where I am coming from and why it is not easy to accept a preterist view. I don't have time to elaborate. But I do want to present my position on prophecy as having a double entendre with it, especially with Daniel 7-8. So if Iran, the Ram, does charge into the Middle East in the coming two years, I would suggest, Mr. Gore of giving premillennialism a second reconsideration. I appreciate the videos. I thought I would give it another review but really can't see it. I do think we need to keep a positive perspective and Revelation should always be read as such. It is to focused on Christ always. One author, Daniel Juster suggests it has interesting parallels with it to the plagues and deliverance from Egypt.
Im a trucker on the oilfield. I don't have a lot of time to search through books. Thanks for doing it for me and putting it on TH-cam so that guys like me can listen as we drive.
Thanks for taking me along! I appreciate the lift!
Jesus will return after Jerusalem gets nuked by the abomination which causes desolation mentioned in Matthew 24.
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth-Gog and Magog-and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
31“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Jesus is the only created being of God. Through Jesus ALL things were made.
5For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
♾️ Infinity is closed loop because the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. God is the singularity responsible for the big bang and according to the many laws of conservation that singularity had to be equal to or greater than all of the mass, energy, and information/intelligence in the universe, past, present, and future combined. And since things are neither created of destroyed, only transferred or transformed, this means God became the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. God is everything everywhere.
Jesus must reign until he has defeated all of his enemies.
ALL Power, Dominion, and Authority...
Then the last enemy to be defeated is DEATH itself. Then he will return the kingdom to the Father, so that God may be ALL in ALL
The Lord says to my lord:[a]
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”
24Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
The Earth is HELL in the future. It gets hit by an asteroid and pushed toward the sun.
Isaiah 13:12-13, Revelation 9, 2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
The New Jerusalem will take the best of humanity and the glory of the nations to a New Earth.
dont believe everything you hear in yt..actually , if you had time to study, you would see NONE , ZERO of apostoles, church fathers, bishops, early christians bellieve revelations happened in 70 ad..in actuallity, they all say rev was written after 90 ad!
plus, just a bonus..saying jesus doesnt return in bodily form and doesnt restore creation is unchristian..meaning f preterist are not christian and actually shun down as heresy and something to mark and avoid.
@@juenmmonterrey7767 Anyone who believes revelation is over never read 2 Peter 3.
It is so refreshing to to hear Revelation taught in its proper first century context. Thank you Dr. Gore !
As soon as I began my studies in college and a professor pointed out that you have to read each book of the Bible with the goal of finding the author's original intent, that was so revolutionary to me. I don't know why something so simple gets overlooked by so many people (I was one of them), but as soon as you read these books in that fashion I feel that they become so much more alive. It all makes so much more sense.
Read each book
Focus on……authors intent
Wow
Satan never said anything more convoluted than that
Ok so your godless prof had a technique for you
Did you know Jesus had a very DIFFERENT technique?
Read it like a child!
Way before you get brain fukkkkkkkkd in kolledge
Oh by the way
Just in case your thinking you’ve got some academic seniority here
My first degree is BS in Chemistry
Guessing you went to preacher school…
Amen Logical Dude
So truueee brother
I could not agree more most of the books in the New testament were letters to individuals and churches and I know that when I read somebody's letter I don't go down to the third chapter and read two sentences and then try to determine that this is what he meant when he wrote this letter to me so what you're saying has immense value and I hope many people see your comment.
I’m currently enrolled in a seminar on the Gospel of Matthew; very much viewing it from that literary standpoint and assessing what might have been the author’s original intent. I agree with you, that method of reading the text opens it up in a brand new way.
There is a LOT of preterist content out there, but I'm very thankful that your timetable was truncated forcing you to fit all of Revelation into one session less than an hour long. Finding a concise teaching about the preterist view of Revelation to introduce to my children has been HARD, but this is just right! Thanks, brother!
I am like a child with this so your comment helped ME as a newer child (at 61 yrs old) to know where to start). TY. U never know when gods gonna use your comments to help others, right? ❤
Praise the Lord! I started with Gary DeMar's book: Last Days Madness when I was wrestling with eschatology at Bible college.@@chasethecat3839
The founder of preterism was a Jesuit named Luis de Alcazar. The whole intent was to avert the Protestants who believed that the pope was the Antichrist and to avert it somewhere else. Preterists believe that Nero was the Antichrist. But Jesus said there will be many antichrists or many that will come in my name saying I am the Christ. Nero never said that
The Jesuits also concocted the Zionist dispensational doctrines, so now you have two false belief systems at war with each other over doctrinal differences when they're both wrong.
I've watched this presentation about 5 times now, trying to get my head wrapped around this way of viewing Revelation. It is so different than what I'd been told by many sources over the years.
But I'm glad I found it. Bruce makes Revelation so understandable I highly recommend others watch it. The viewpoint he presents is so logical it's like opening the blinds and letting sunlight on a mysterious book. Thanks for this presentation, its really helped me.
+LuvBorderCollies It took me quite a while to rethink Revelation as well. On the whole, I have found this a vastly more satisfying and helpful way to view this great book of the Bible! Thanks for your kind remarks.
LuvBorderCollies : I had no idea. I was saved 5 years ago. All I heard was the futurist approach. I began to read the Bible myself and found I was told a bunch of lies. I thought I was alone in what I thought. But I found people such as Bruce as well
I always knew the futurist approach was wrong but I didn't know what to believe and living in the Midwest where people worship at the altar of Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, I was worried I would never figure out the mystery of Revelation. Thank God for the internet. Everyone thought I was a heretic because I didn't believe in the rapture. So glad to see that theory losing ground. What a shame that those who hold to the futurist approach fail to see all the fantastic foreshadowing in Ezekiel, Daniel, etc. Holding the futurist approach also fails to give God the credit for fulfilling prophecy exactly as was presented to John in Revelation which lends even more credibility to the Bible. Discovered partial preterism 20 years ago and I now can enjoy reading the Bible.
@@annchovey2089 check out brother William Bell All Things Fulfilled on TH-cam.
Ann Chovey
Praise God for having the discernment to leave dispensationalism - , they completely forget about audience relevance and context and insert a rapture or second coming into nearly every book. To put today’s world into Hebrew symbolic, poetic, language with all its different idioms is ridiculous and it takes away from the beauty of the story......
It’s tragic they turn Revelation, the unveiling of the beauty of Christ’s victory, into a scary vision of how they’ll be living if they get ‘left behind’.
Good for you 🙏🏽❣️
A knowledge of history and not being afraid to welcome different ideas, with a sincerity to know the word of God, leads to a proper understanding of this book. Great job. Thank you.
+An Ngo Thank you!
Praise King Jesus awesome teaching on the subjected 70ad is the final end of Old Covenant Israel. Elder Marcellus Quickley 4105887664
@Dakota Bledsoe Please share your criticisms.
@Scribeintheink Whether he is right is the question. There is surely no problem with looking at history and not agreeing with everything, like a regurgitating primary school child might do.
I'm a pastor, and preterist, myself, and I would say that was one GREAT overview of the preterist view of The Apocalypse!!!
+Jordan Orick Thank you my friend!
I'm in Michigan. Sorry, somehow I didn't see this comment until now :(
Will you please direct me to someone very knowledgeable in revelation, perhaps a minister/pastor I can talk to about end times matters? I really need help with it!
samantha reed Hi Samantha. Would you be interested in some good books or resources to help you out?
@@riverjao Ok that would be good. Especially about the beast/mark of the beast and the AntiChrist.
I am so glad that the Lord led me to this series! Brother Gore is awesome.
Thank you for this teaching. After almost 28 years of being a Christian and not being able to receive other explanations that I've had to reject, this teaching is a blessing!
Diana Williams Thank you!
Bruce Gore I second Diana’s comment and am wondering if you could suggest further reading? Also, please consider doing a lecture series that covers everything in this last video in more detail. It’s just such a bummer that you had to rush through the culminating lecture! Thanks and blessings!
Bruce Gore, thank you!!!
I'm very happy for you, our paths have similar landmarks and I know where you have been. Thank you.
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I'm currently re-reading Chilton's Days of Vengeance. It's the best commentary on Revelation ever written and this series is the best on Revelation I've ever heard. God bless you Mr Bruce Gore.
Por favor tendrán para recomendar un libro en español sobre el tema ? Dios los bendiga
I eschew labels, but one I've been very happy to wear in the last few years is "preterist." This perspective not only unlocks Revelation but the whole of the Bible. Excellent exposition, Mr. Gore. Many thanks for posting.
@Scribeintheink I love people who posture but show no ability to back up their claims.
@Dakota Bledsoe
Yeah it's proven false whereas all the futurist nonsense has been proven right , especially when it does not hesitate to throw into a remote future historical details like the women grinding at the mill (Matthew 24 ) , the slaves in the Roman Empire ( chapter 13) , the sound of the mill which will not be heard again in fallen Babylon (Revelation 18).
When we dive into the prophetic texts , we see very easily that they relate to very old things .
Futurists have not only taken us for fools but they have also turned Jesus into a liar since they refuse to believe what he said in his Olivet Discourse.
@Scribeintheink Where is it wrong in your opinion?
I've been listening to these lectures while playing video games. It's fascinating stuff and I very much enjoy your style of teaching.
Bruce I continue to be blessed by your teaching. I’ve only been listening for two days now, but you do an amazing job. Thank you brother, and I praise God for the opportunity to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
I am absolutely delighted to hear from you. Thank you!
Thank you for this sensible teaching, Bruce Gore. It is the balm of Gilead after decades of frenetic, sensational, rapture dispensational teaching. It washes over me like the water of the Word.
I appreciate that. Thank you!
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You deserve that because you don't lead us astray contrary to the futurist lunacy that SELLS and fulfill our cravings for sensationalism.
I have been digging in this sandbox for 6 months and had written a 50 page 15,000 words and 415 scriptures regarding this topic.I had not heard of the Preterest movement so I did not search before I began my Biblical search. After I had finished my work I sat down in the Living Room and said to my wife "John's word has to be mis dated". that was the missing link for me.
This presentation has been very helpful. It also answers the "raised up with Him" that Paul spoke of from 62 ad and beyond.
Great work!!
I simply cannot dismiss Bible prophecy and write it off as being completed in the first century. There is so much one has to change and crowbar to make the preterist view fit.
I could never be a preterist as it doesn’t line up with the Bible and doesn’t make logical sense once you study biblical eschatology.
Amen. They call God a liar
"Bible Prophecy was given to increase our Faith as the events foretold came to pass. The predictions of Futurism never come to pass. This false interpretation can never increase faith."
"When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth,
he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!"
These quotes describe my journey out of the lie, and into the truth about the egregious doctrinal error of Dispensational Theology, which I learned from Independent Baptists and their blinded allegiance to Cyrus Scofield and his reference bible.
My inner self, through guidance from the Holy Spirit, found it much more rewarding to be honest enough about my mistaken beliefs and then reject them, and to embrace the Truth, rather than choosing to continue in the errors of my misguided persuasions.
Your TH-cam Channels have helped tremendously.
Thank you Mr Gore for a brilliant biblical presentation of Revelation. I hope you can preach it throughout the churches in your land. Great message. Great hope in Christ.
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I went through the first 10 sections in two days. I want to say thank you for the thorough details with just being factual on what i can see is the honest postions.
Same hahah
Thank you for continuing to do the Lords work as a faithful teacher. I wish Church’s would share all perspectives of eschatology instead of 1 which is an unfortunate deception as one who was once a dispensationalist.
I've watched this series several times now, and I am always blown away by your brilliant, concise summary of the book. I have a feeling that it is even better than it would have been if you had had the three weeks you thought you were going to have! Looking forward to your series in the Fall...just don't forget the most marvelous creature in Revelation, the elephant! :)
Hmmm....the elephant? That must be hiding somewhere in the Greek!
Thank you for your presentation. I am currently reading Revelation and needed your video to help me understand what the book is about. Many thanks for your help.
Gosh! What you said at the 9:27 minute caused me to cry. It touched my soul.
Dear Bruce I am a 60 year old man who has been a born again Christian for over 30 years. In that time I have read, studied, been preached at and listened to all the various views of Revelation and Millennialism and have yet never been satisfied or totally convinced that any of them have been entirely and completely biblical. Until now. Thank you. This makes perfect sense. I feel like I’ve been born again…again! God Bless you and your ministry and teaching. You have a new student 😊
I am delighted to hear it. My only warning...don't believe anything because I (or anyone) said it, but only because in good conscience you come to be convinced that the Bible says it! Blessing friend.
@@GoreBruce Absolutely. Sage advice. Cheers.
@@GoreBruce …And as I’m new to your teaching and have yet to dig into all your resources I was just wondering…Do you hold that all of Revelation has been fulfilled then? And has the resurrection as mentioned in Daniel 12:2 already happened? Thank you.
The term generally applied to my view is 'partial preterist.' That means that the bulk of Revelation (but not all) describes the events associated with the transition from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant, which includes the dismantling of the structures of the Old Covenant (Jerusalem Temple, Levitical Priesthood, Animal Sacrifices, etc.). Chapter 20 describes an extended period of time in which Satan is bound by the gospel preventing him from deceiving people when it is faithfully preached. At the end of the extended period, there are events that bring human history to a conclusion. Those events still lie in our future.
@@GoreBruce OK that's great to know. Thank you Bruce.
So that means the resurrection of Daniel 12:2 and 1 Corinthians 15 are still in our future and we are not currently living in the new heavens and the new earth?
May God Richly bless you. Thank you for a truly engaging lecture series.
As a former Seventh-Day-Adventist (I left the SDA church in July of this year) I had a completely distorted view of the book of Revelation. You have whet my appetite to finally allow the Jesus to speak through this magnificent book
+Thabani Maphosa Thanks so much for such a kind and encouraging post!
Thabani Maphosa Good for you!
Interesting...the historical, continuous approach as taught by the SDA Church would seem to explain Daniel/Revelation better, there are gaps no doubt, but history is on their side....their view of the papacy as the anti christ also makes great sense
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I'm sorry but it does not. They say that the Great Whore of Babylon is the Catholic church which makes no sense at all since Babylon in Revelation is a CITY where the sound of the mill will never be heard again and where the blood of the PROPHETS has been found.
Did the RCC kill the Old covenant prophets ? Who killed the prophets but Jerusalem ?
Jerusalem in Rev is called Sodom , Egypt and Babylon. And she rides the beast (Rome) because the Jewish elites had no king but Caesar as they said to Jesus . The Jewish elites were very close to the Roman empire.
They Reformers read their hatred of RCC (they were right to expose all her wicked deeds) in the book , which is certainly not the way we should try to understand what is written .
WOW! This was the absolute BEST explanation of the book of Revelation that I have ever heard. Thank you so much. I can't wait to share this with my family & friends! God bless you.
Check out his entire series where he goes through Revelation verse by verse - it's amazing and so worth the time!
this is all starting to make sense to me. Thx for putting this online.😁
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Excellent! I so appreciate Mr Gore’s teaching, and especially his humble attitude!
Thank you Bruce, and thank you Lord for raising up teachers for the perfecting of the Saints for the edifying of the body of Christ, well done and in only 48 minutes.
Thanks for your kind feedback. You may be interested in knowing that I am planning a much more comprehensive treatment of Revelation starting in the fall of 2019.
Yes I am interested, I was raised with dispensation and have been making my journey out of it for the last 15 years. That theological system is like a leaven, once it gets in you its difficult to get it all out. Lord willing I'll get totally free from it and teachings such as this have really been helpful. I will subscribe to your channel so I don't miss your more comprehensive teaching next fall. Thanks again.
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I was only taught dispensational interpretation for most of my life and then I started searching out other ways of reading the prophetic literature in the Bible. Brother Gore does a fine job of this.
Revelation is understandable if not stretched out 2000+ years. PERIOD and PERIOD!! Amen and Amen!!
True, but at least the last part (chapter 20-22) seem to be talking about our times (the millennial time) and the future (final judgment and New Heavens and a New Earth). I think mr. Gore agrees with that, right? I'm not sure if he's a partial, full or extreme/hyper preterist?
@@waynealan3067 Hi Wayne, in the meantime I have become a full preterist. So I have left the inconsistent partial preterist doctrine.
The best and correct interpretation of Revelation Period
Thank you so much Bruce. I can't thank you enough. Bless you brother.
I have only ever heard a slight description of this view from my historianist father (a teacher) who came from a long family line of the same. I always wondered about it. It makes a lot of sense. I can see through your teachings some good that has come out of each view as well as some folly. Your view I find comforting in the sense that it frees up the tension of an eminent "end time" and all it entails. It also stops blaming other schools of thought as if they become a salvation issue. The ultimate goal after all is accepting Jesus' forgiveness and believing in Him. To me all the other jargon are what separates us into different "tribes", but we are all of one faith. If we Christians can remember that and don't let them be our stumbling blocks we benefit all the more. Thanks for your wonderful and comprehensive history on the origins of each interpretation of Revelations. Thanks also for making it available on TH-cam for homebodies like myself.
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Thank you for this clear overview of the Book of Revelation which many have ignored. Great presentation!
+Ronald Nepomuceno Thank you very much!
The Preterist interpretation of the bible is completely wrong. Paul already addressed their views some 2000 years ago in his epistle to the Thessalonians. 2 Thessalonians 2New International Version (NIV)The Man of Lawlessness2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.They were claiming that Jesus second coming was over, and Paul rebuke them. This Paul has already debunked the Preterist view. Its in the bible and the Bible being the Word of God cannot lie. This Preterist teaching Error was already addressed by Paul, so now we do not need to listen to such wrong teachings. Beware of people who support their own special interpretation and contradicts the bible, which is the Ultimate Word of Truth.Joseph Ho2 seconds agoThe Preterist interpretation of the bible is completely wrong. Paul already addressed their views some 2000 years ago in his epistle to the Thessalonians. 2 Thessalonians 2New International Version (NIV)The Man of Lawlessness2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.They were claiming that Jesus second coming was over, and Paul rebuke them. This Paul has already debunked the Preterist view. Its in the bible and the Bible being the Word of God cannot lie. This Preterist teaching Error was already addressed by Paul, so now we do not need to listen to such wrong teachings. Beware of people who support their own special interpretation and contradicts the bible, which is the Ultimate Word of Truth.
Thanks for the helpful feedback!
Thanks for sharing. Your lecture is very intriguing, and this comes from the mouth of a premillennialist. Thanks for explaining your position succinctly.❤✝️🙏😇
As a former premillennialist myself, I appreciate your feedback very much!
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I’m really going against the grain in my church believing this view but it makes so much more sense. Thank you
Be patient and pray.
@ Jared Scot Brandon
We are not supposed to be dumb churchians who swallow all the lies we are told in pulpits (and not just concerning eschatology) but Christians who follow Christ and the Word.
That pastors can teach such futurist lunacy is beyond me. Moreover , they are all incapable of teaching what Revelation is about . Just throwing the same eternal platitudes as the "antichrist" , the so-called rapture , the "great tribulation" .
I'm sick of all that.
I remember when I was a new Born Again. It was a Charismatic Assemblies of God church that was steeped in the, for lack of a better term, 'Left Behind' view. I bought into it too for a number of years. Then, I progressed to not being concerned about it, (Eschatology) as everything was "just around the corner'. I think gary called it Newspaper Exegiesis. There was always another 'sign'. It wore me out. Then I started coming across Postmillenialism and their arguments. I also came across Gary DeMar, and I think I heard of Dr. Gore through him. I'm still more of a pan-millenial than anything else, but I'm in the partial pretersit camp. Dr Gore, thanks for being clear and straightforward. I appreciate your teachings as they are sober and common-sense. I sincerely wish I'd have come across you sooner.
TO ALL PRETERISTS:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy.
REPENT, while you can
Never 👂 revelation explained so well that makes sense . It amazing . Thanks 😊.
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Fantastic!
Best series of videos on Revelation that incorporates church history on the topic to present.
I was a Dispensationalist, then pre-mil, then post and more recently A-mil partial preterist.
(Also studied Adventism, SDA, JW and Hal Lindsey 1988 *ALL* failed end time eschatologies aka 7 times cults)
Thanks again for sharing God's light on this confusing topic and its history.
Matinata 👍🙏
Thank you! I hope you will be able to follow along with the series I'm launching this fall (2019) which will be a verse by verse study of Revelation.
@@GoreBruce Looking forward to it. How did you like the Josephus Essentials book?
I like it very much. I would make a great textbook for the right academic setting!
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Thank you so much for this lecture series Mr. Gore. I now have a better understanding and better appreciation for this confusing book.
I hope you can join me in the fall of 2019, when I intend to start a two year series on this book!
Magnificent presentation , you are a gifted teacher ! God Bless !
Thank you for the logical, lucid, and conversational words. They really helped make this very complex book much more accessible. I look forward to watching your other series.
I appreciate it. Thanks!
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As popular as dispensational view is more and more ppl walk away from its inconsistent theme.. great teaching Mr Gore.
Preterism is way more inconsistent and is a fake narrative imposed all over the book!
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@@smashmouth1001how is it inconsistent?
who is this teacher? he is awesome! love it! God bless him. Extremely informative, and on point. Excellent.
+raydawgrules Thank you!
Amen!!!
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For the past three years, the Lord has impressed upon me the idea of "God's original intent" and understanding the language and culture of the text involved.
That, my friend, is the only proper starting point for legitimate biblical interpretation! Thanks for reminding us.
@@GoreBruce I have shared these same principles and views for the past twenty-two years. Thank you for your clear and precise teaching.
Thank you Bruce for your reply. I tend to agree with the preterist view of 70AD.
You have all the makings of a good teacher.
Thank you! ...I keep trying!
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I was dispensational/futurist for 12 years. After guys like Bruce Gore, Ken Gentry, Jeff Durbin, Doug Wilson, and others I have completely shifted my position to postmill/partial preterist.
Welcome to the 'not-dark' side, my friend. Blessings from our gracious Lord.
Does that mean that you now believe in replacement theology?
@@davidjohnson1536 there’s no such thing…. Replacement theology implies the church has replaced Israel. Covenant theology believes, as scripture teaches, that the Israel of God includes all those of faith….. Jew and gentile.
Ephesians 2:11-19, Romans 11, Galatians 3:16&29, Philippians 3:3, etc.
This was all prophesied in the OT. Go back and read Genesis 35:10-11 and Genesis 48:11-20. Israel would be a nation of Jews and Gentiles.
Yes, Romans 9:6 and Ephesians 3:1-7 come to mind also. Compare this to Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 11:15.
@@jaylonbachman good response. It's not a replacement it's a fulfillment of.
Bruce Gore: This is an incredible presentation. Thank you so much for it! God bless you, brother.
...and many thanks to you as well!
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Is this why the world has gone to crap? We are living in the enemy’s short time? This is depressing.
There has never been a time in history when people have not seriously asked the same thing.
Professor Gore did an amazing job with a difficult text. Congratulations.
This is an excellent presentation! But one difficulty I have with preterist view of Revelation is that, although it relies heavily on the expression "the things which must soon take place" in chapter one verse one, this view doesn't actually hold that *all* of the things the angel communicated to John would, in fact, take place soon. The end of the millennium did not take place soon after the time of writing because the millennium only terminates after a extended period of time. The judgement at the great white throne and the descent of the new Jerusalem would not appear to have occurred in the first century. To me, the fact that only some of the events described in the book take place "soon" from John's perspective opens the door to historicist and futurist interpretations.
I certainly agree that there is some of Revelation awaiting fulfillment.
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@@smashmouth1001 - thanks for the recommendation! That was an enlightening video.
@@RGrantJones You're welcome./ He has lots of videos on eschatology.
My personal view is that it is complete and the things you mentioned have already taken place. The millennium was a short time. 1000 (or thousand thousands) was symbolic of the completeness at the end of the age. And that would be the Mosaic age. When Jesus gave the apostles the ability to bind and loose it was then that He took authority away from the Jewish leadership. This started the 1000 reign of the Saints. Though they had not suffered martyrdom yet, they soon would be. The judgement of the great white throne had to have taken place because the temple was destroyed. There is no Mosaic law today to judge by. The great white throne judgement was for those that were under the Torah. Jews today cannot begin to fulfill the Torah. Once the temple was destroyed then we know that God completed this passage. The New Jerusalem is the church and there is no more sea. This represents that gentiles are now part of the sonship of God. There was no temple. God the Father and God the Son is the temple. Are we not in that temple now? So, it is fulfilled. There is no sun or moon. Meaning that under the old heaven and earth you had rulers, those in authority lording the word of God over the people. Now, God lights up everything. We learn from Him We listen to Him. We have direct contact with Him. We are kings and priests before God. This is accomplished already. Revelation is fulfilled. Thanks be to God for His kingdom and that He tabernacles with us now.
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Excellent and well done!
Excellent work! May God continues to bless you!
Bruce, thank you very much for doing this lecture and for the massive amount of content within. It took me about 4 hours total to get through 48 minutes of material and I'm so thankful for it.
I have one question. I've watched several of your videos and am just wondering which approach (to Revelation, prophecy) do you cling to the most? Thanks again sir!
I 'cling' to the principle that every text of the Bible must be understood first, and primarily, in terms of its most probable meaning to those who were its original and intended audience. With respect to Revelation, I am planning a comprehensive treatment of the book beginning in the fall of 2019. Thanks for your interest!
Bruce Gore hey Bruce, I appreciate your in depth look at revelation. I do have a question about what you think the “new heavens and new earth” represents. That is the hardest thing for me to wrap my head around. Your study was very insightful, but most of the push back I get from this idea comes from 2 Peter 3:7-13 and Revelation 21 verse 1 and 4. Could you help shed light on how you resolve these with your understanding?
I wish to thank Dr Gore for a brilliant presentation. The fewer Christians, and Dr Gore is a True Christian, believe in the premillennial view the more likely His return us imminent. He will come when least expected, which is why I am a mid tribulation rapture believer who was CERTAINbHe wouldn't comebin 1988 or any other predicted date.
Let the great apostasy come, as predicted.
Great series. Thank you.
I am glad someone knows how to break this down. A lot of preachers would think the guy on the white horse with a bow is the antiChrist.
The sun turn dark when Christ died so that is part of what great day of the lord is, I believe.
Bruce is spot on in his interpretation of Revelation.
Thank you, Bruce Gore. Excellent presentation, like your others. I just finished your APOCALYPSE IN SPACE AND TIME series, which I found essential in providing a solid overview.
I am most thankful that God has brought me out of the false premillennial view I had formerly accepted as eschatological truth, which I now recognize as error. I had been believing the doctrines of men without taking it upon myself to study the KJV and research the history. Once I was willing to prostrate myself before God and acknowledge that I knew nothing, the Holy Spirit could begin to reveal what God's word is really saying.
It does seem that much history has been hidden from us or pushed away by deception and distraction. My research of the Jesuit Order has convinced me of their expertise in deception in their influence in the church and higher education, none of it for the better.
Looking forward to hearing more of your presentations. Thanks again.
I have only come across this presentation recently. I am enjoying it. I have read the account Josephus wrote about the atrocities being committed in Jerusalem during the siege. It is sickening and the Jewish people in Jerusalem actually did a good job of destroying Jerusalem themselves before the Romans got in and finished the job. Some very lucky people managed to sneak out of Jerusalem and they told Josephus what was happening in the city.
i wish you had been able to give the full 3-part version of this lecture. there's just so much packed in to too little time
I agree it was a little rushed. I hope to return to this for a follow up at some point. Thanks for the feedback!
Has there been a follow up? if so where can I find it.
The follow up, is it out yet?
Yes, would love to see the fuller presentation!
Bruce Gore
Ditto for more please.......thank you..
I’m open to it but I’m curious what your end-times theology is if Revelation only applies to the 1st century.
My end times theology follows the classical creeds of the church. Jesus is at the right hand of God the Father, from whence he will come to judge the quick and the dead. Thanks for your interest!
If you listen to this dissertation of Revelation without study for yourself, it sounds very convincing. And indeed there might be some truth here along with many descrepencies. One thing we shouldn't do is put ourselves in a box with labels as Preterists etc., because then we cease to hear and learn what the Holy Spirit would say to us. We would do well to listen to all views, discerning as we go.
The preterist views, I think, make the most sense. Thanks for this straight forward series of explanations to a rather complex book. However, is there a literal second coming of Christ? The angels, after Jesus ascended into heaven, made it clear that Jesus would be coming back in the same way he ascended.
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Off course, there is a litteral coming of Christ, all the church fathers, the Creed's and the apostles believed and affirm Christ's physical return, although Bruce is right that most of the Olivet Discourse already happened in 70AD, the 2nd coming is still FUTURE. The safest but still orthodox book I could recommend is the "the Paroussia" by Stuart Russel. Full preterism is a fairly new concept, promoted by Max King in the 70's and then continued by Bell and Don Preston.
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Is there a third coming prophesied in the Bible ?
I believe prophecy in the Bible often has a near and distant future application.
No prophecy is for private interpretation.
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Hello Mr. Gore! I was wondering if I may remix this video on my channel? I, of course will give all credit and link back to your channel! Thank you so much for your teaching! God bless you!
Thanks so much for your interest. Giving credit to me is optional - giving glory to Jesus is, however, mandatory. Thanks again!
God bless you!
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Yes he does, be blessed from our beloved
I love your videos! Learning so much!
That you spent hours on Dispensalism and rushed through Preterism leaves one more informed on the former and less of the latter...still looking to understand Revelation with Daniel in mind: the wound of the beast from the land, the beast from the sea and its two horns, the 666, given that Israel is clearly the woman in chapter 12, the two witnesses
Yeah, some schedule problems forced that unfortunate timing. I plan to spend a full year (or more) on Revelation beginning the fall of 2019, so stay tuned.
Thank you for this view. I’ve reviewed the Historicist view, the Futurist view but I’ve never heard the Prederist view regarding the Book of Revelation. As a passionate believer who loves to dive into the Bible for knowledge and nuggets of truth I’ve learned to keep an open mind and not hold onto one view of the truth, for the truth is ever expanding and unfolding. Also, the obvious parallel of the past whereby it’s the scholars and men of higher leaning who had misled the Jewish nation into missing the truth about the prophecies with regards the the first coming of their Messiah, makes me a little reserved to putting my faith in one view. With that being said, the prederist stands that the book of Revelation has already been fulfilled because of the opening remarks in the first chapter, whereby it states, “to show his servants things that will shortly come to pass.” This statement is the hallmark of why all of Revelation has already happened. This remark did puzzle me and left me a bit depressed to think that we in the present day have no prophecy or hope for our coming Messiah. It’s like we are to just dangle in suspense unawares of the signs for the return of our Messiah. Then I read Rev 3:11 “behold I come quickly hold fast to which thou hast.” And in many places Jesus say this phrase that he comes quickly. Yet more than 2k years later he has not yet come. Maybe thinking that the words “shortly” and “quickly” are viewed by Christ as imminent to our time is incorrect. For a thousand years for us is but a day for the Lord. So yes those things in Revelation will shortly come to past and the Lord is true to his word when he repeatedly states he comes quickly because time for him is not the same for us.
For those Christians who just want to believe there is no endurance for the church to be purified and tried and tested and to be made white as snow like the Christians who were persecuted for his name sake and followed their savior by picking up the cross and following him. It means you don’t deserve him. For those who want to save their lives will lose it and those who lose their lives will save it. Conforming to the idea that the prophecies are done and we are in a Utopia and all is well is a dangerous way to live as a Christian because “he who endures until the end shall be saved”. There is a trial to befall the church, the bride of Christ because look at the church. It’s a 40k denominational mess and the Lord needs to separate the wheat from the tears.
We must continue to study all views and combine the truths together by prayer and fasting and constant wrestling with the Lord.
In the “40k denominational mess” are 4.2 million churches and in those churches there have been billions of true Christians, both alive now and who have passed on.
This is a pretty amazing feat considering at the time of Revelation, there were 7 letters to 7 churches!
Jesus told us in the world we will have tribulation but He has overcome the world and as Christians we are in the world but not of the world. When we are saved, we are taken from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of heaven and our God, a kingdom that is not of this world. We are born again of spirit and we look for the life to come.
@ Echo Blu
"unawares of the signs for the return of our Messiah "
Is there a third coming prophesied in the Bible ?
Wonderful!
So excellent 👏 👌 🙌 Love it!
Is it true that Preterism has papal origins via Jesuits, Alcazar to counter the historical protestant view; References. The prophetic faith our fathers Vol. 2 Leroy Froom and G.S.Hitchcock, Alongside Futurism advanced by another Jesuit Ribera
I will call it Semi- Preterist. The End of the age Judgment is still to be fulfilled.
Thanks Bruce. Question please. Jesus said in Chap 21, God will wipe away all their tears; there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, no pain, all former things are passed away. Are you saying this verse is fulfilled already?
The New Testament takes a view that might be called one of 'mocking' death, because it has lost its sting, as the grave has forfeited its victory (1 Corinthians 15:50ff). The author of Hebrews says that Christ destroyed the one who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and liberated those who through fear of death were all their lifetimes subject to bondage (Hebrews 2). When death is coupled with 'sorrow, crying, pain' it is safe to say that 'there is no more death.' For us death is merely the glorious move from a place of joy here to a place of unspeakably greater joy there.
@Tony Rowan The promise of 'no more death' is only for those who belong to Christ. There is indeed eternal wrath for the unrepentant. This is what the book of Revelation calls 'the second death.'
Religous topics are such a bore. I know nothing about the bible book or mr. jesus. But I love listening to Bruce Gore explain it ! Thanks brohanski
Bairdsley, I used to believe as you do until I realized, through biblical study, that such an approach comes from an attempt to make the Bible fit one's preconceived ideas. There is no interruption taught in the Scriptures. It is created by dispensationalists to accommodate their false presuppositions.
Judy Peterson
Thank you.
I was getting confused.
Very nice and quite plausible. It can be used as a representative explanation of Revelation.
Of course the problem with this historical approach is that it creates exactly the same problem for every believer outside of the first century that it purports to relieve for those the book addresses. How come god gave comfort for those in the first century and left everyone else without guidance for whatever age they find themselves in? So that's problematic. You suggest the mercy of god forces us to adopt the historical approach and end by suggesting god is preferential.
th-cam.com/video/PvP_Hg87luI/w-d-xo.html try this
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Preterism is truth
1. Where are they NOW(!)???
2. ARE THEY STILL insisting ON THEIR DOCTRINES?
3.Can you reach them w/
umpg.blogspot.com/2013/09/t002-grade-i-repentance-kun-pagbinag-o.html
4. include reach those you find needing more truths, and who is not ... We ALL therefore need TO BE REACHED ... preach & be preached with REPENTANCE as comprehensibly as PREACHED HERE!
I do not agree with this interpretation because I am a futurist. But I have to say it was a joy to listen to. Don't agree with much of the interpretations, but I always learn something from brother Gore!
Telling half of the story is telling half of the truth. seven seals, seven trumphets, seven vials, that's all OK. But when it becomes more difficult? What about the seven heads = hills = kings. Five of them already fallen, as John notes.Already in his time, just before he begins to write! Notice that ! Who are they? Who is number six and seven then? Who is number eight called the beast. It's simply history for us, isn't it?? Why can't they say it? IT IS THE KEY QUESTION ! AND THEY FAIL SO FAR. SOMEBODY ANY IDEA?
Yes, good question. You might find the quite competent analysis by Dr. Ken Gentry helpful, "The Beast of Revelation." www.amazon.com/Beast-Revelation-Kenneth-L-Gentry/dp/0930464214/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471611472&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=ken+gentry+beast+of+revelationThanks for your interest!
+Bruce Gore, Dr. Ken Gentry Says Nero is sixth. And he fails to tell who is seventh or eight ! That means he can not count to ten. I feel no need to buy a dvd from such a person or congressation. The debate is open HERE......
Galba is third, eight is the beast itself not an head indeed.
Willem Pasterkamp : Has more Truth than the all future lies. But I understand we are not the Head. Jesus is the Head.
jhon describes a beast which looks like a leopard mouth like a lion and feet like a bear now where preterists lose me is when they say Nero is the beast becouse he behaved like leopard which is not in line with what the bible says the beast is a composite kingdom of Greece Babylon and Persia this according to the way I understand is the eighth king/kingdom which ascends from the bottomless pit which will cover the geographical areas where the three kingdoms covered
So much information to contain in a 48 min video.. I hope there would be a more elaborate version on this topic.
I find perterist version to be more meaningful than the futurism. I approached preterism with a lot of scepticism, but the way it changed the whole meaning of the Bible is truly amazing. As the Lord said, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. I feel the freedom to its fullest now.
When i believed in futurism, there was always a constant fear of the day of the Lord and always took measures to be pure and clean in case His day came upon suddenly. But when the evidence was laid that the day passed about 2000 years earlier and that we are currently living in the age of Christ and His peace, I was very relieved to know this and loved Him even more for all the riches in my life, that is Christ himself! Where there is love, there is no place for sins or griefs or other things that would bother your loved one, my beloved Lord.. I find it no longer necessary to take those measures to please Him, because His kingdom is already here, already in me!
Thanks for the feedback. I am hopeful to do a more extensive treatment of Revelation within the next few months so stay tuned please!
so what does this mean for how we as "preterists" should live our lives going forward?
Thanks for the question.
First it is important to distinguish a 'preterist' approach to Revelation from 'preterism.' The latter affirms that all eschatological events took place in the first century, and that history simply continues thereafter with no terminus. The church has historically (and rightly) rejected that theory. A preterist approach to Revelation affirms that the book is chiefly concerned with events that took place in the first century, generally connected to the fall of Jerusalem in 70 a.m. That is the view I take.
In this view, Jesus established his kingdom in the first century, declaring to his disciples 'all authority is given unto me.' The kingdom has been gradually but relentlessly growing since that time (as a mustard seed, cf. Dan. 2). We are called to 'seek first the kingdom of God,' that is, devote ourselves entirely to the growth by grace of the kingdom of Jesus. Jesus 'will reign until he has put every enemy under his feet, the last of which is death' (1 Cor. 15). At that point, history reaches its culmination, and Jesus delivers the kingdom to his Father, a finished work, to the eternal glory of God, and the blessing of his people.
Vina D. Vine I agree with Gore on this. However, I am a full preterist which is what he described as my approach to Revelation and Eschatology. But contrary to many beliefs about Preterism, I believe that God isnt done with us and is still with us even after the events of Revelation have occured. I do believe the Kingdom of God has been established and now in this New Heavens and Earth, we are to be people who produce fruits (as described in Revelation 22:1-5) to be the healing of nations. In other words, we are to bring people into God's Kingdom. Most people do thing the kingdom of God or New Jerusalem will be a physical kingdom but thats contrary to Scripture: Luke 17:21. The Kingdom of God (New Jerusalem) is not going to be seen I believe. Why? Because the New Covenant brings so much more Spiritual things than the old covenant and many things in the New Testament seem to hint at a spiritual Jerusalem. Galatiom 4:26 says "The Jerusalem above is free..." Which seems to talk about a Jerusalem in Heaven. Jerusalem in the old covenant was the center of the Religion and where God dwelt. But in the New Covenant, God dwells in us (1 Cor. 3:16, John 14:23, and many more) and the center of Christianity is Christ...not even the Church itself but Christ. The New Testament also Calls our bodies a temple of God and where was the Old Covenant Temple? Jerusalem. Other places in the New Testament, We are considered a New Creation (New Heavens and Earth?) Such as 2 Cor. 5:17. This all connects to perhaps the New Jerusalem is us and the Christian community since God dwells in us because we are his temple now (Just like He did in Old Jerusalem in the Temple) and the New Heavens and Earth are us as new creations as well as Heaven being opened to Believers and Earth/ Humanity has a connection to heaven because of Jesus. Not the best explanation but all these things connect and I hope you can see it.
Even though I believe All events happened in 1st Century, I know God isnt done with us and that everything just ended. I hope this helps everyone who reads this. Im writing this to help, not to start arguments or negatively criticize Bruce Gore's view. God Bless and keep studying God's Word.
Vina D. Vine forgot to mention, since I dont believe God's finished, we should still follow the Commandments to our best ability and continue to preach to the lost.
@@GoreBruce and there is only ONE resurrection, right? The "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4 is spiritual, correct?
I need this confirmation because I cannot find 2 resurrections of the righteous dead separated by 1,000 years and a future tribulation corroborated in scripture.
Please confirm.
I follow the classic view worked out by Augustin, and followed by many others, that the 'first resurrection' refers to regeneration (cf. Rom. 6, for example), and the 'second resurrection is the resurrection of all people at the end of human history, in which some are raised to life and some to eternal death.
This was an excellent presentation. I have one question. When verse 1 says that these things must soon happen, why does that not include the white throne judgment?
It means 'the bulk of these things.' There is an exception in chapter 10, involving the 'seven thunders' of which John is told to 'seal up' the meaning, a phrase associated with events that will occur in the distant future. Similarly, chapter 10 speaks of 1000 years, which is a signal that the events described will await a later time. Thanks for your interest!
The Holy Spirit, in His revealing, makes it plain that most of the events of the book, the defeat of the harlot, the defeat of the beast, and the defeat of the false prophet are separated from the defeat of Satan and lastly death itself by a minimum of a thousand years. That gap, plus the fact that people, even today are physically dying, prove that not all of the events of Revelation have happened, thus the partial preterist point of view. Just keep in mind that as long as current evidence demonstrates that Satan and evil are still at work in the world and that death is still with us means that the end is still yet to be.
Here's what happened.
Like Jesus promised, he came back soon after his crucifixion and resurrection. He reigned for 1000 years starting around year 70 AD. The Bible promised he would reign for 1000 years and after that... (Quote): Rev. 20:2-3
"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. "
So, most people who lived in that millennium with Christ as king left with him and a few that didn't like it, were left behind.
Then, God gave the kingdom to the devil for" a little season " to tempt the nations again. Rev. 20
As of that great disappearance, or reset, we are living the days of the" little season ".
In order to re populate the world, either there was a great resurrection of people who in the past died without knowing about Jesus or Satan mass produced children in an unspecified manner (Rev 20:1-5).
But here's the best part:
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Preterists needed what we have found with this erased history, mudflood and Tartary phenomenon in order to make sense of their correct yet incomplete interpretation. Jesus ruled and reigned for 1000 literal years and Rev 20 had a literal fulfillment. We are now living in the little season of Rev. 20. Get your act together Preterists. People need your side of the story to make sense of all this information coming out!!
So simple and clear and literal...
Never heard such a weird stuff:
If the most of the things in the book of revelation happend already, where acutually are we living right now? In the millenium? No, that cannot be, because it was only for 1000 years and we have 2020 already.
We must be in the new earth, right?
Oh man.... what a strange teaching!
th-cam.com/video/PvP_Hg87luI/w-d-xo.html this may help
Gore is COMPLETELY REFUTED IN ONE HOUR HERE: th-cam.com/video/ijquvtO2E04/w-d-xo.html
@@smashmouth1001 At the outset Bruce Gore offered hermeneutical principles for interpreting literature, biblical texts included. Do you agree with his methodology?
Its pretty simply, and is the easiest explanation:
The 1000 years is not literal. There's many usage of "1000" to just refer to a large amount throughout the Bible. The 1000 years year would just mean: "a very long period of time as the Gospel spreads out across the world"
We’re grateful Sir
Prof VN Sibiya I am grateful to hear from you! Thank you.
I'm really enjoying your wonderful teachings! Thank you very much!
+Kevin Alawine Thanks! Great to hear from you!
This book makes far more sense when considered in this light.End times narrative is an absolute sore spot for Christianity.
I'm full preterist. The second Coming was in A D. 70, Jesus visiting the apostate Jewish nation in judgement, rescuing His people from persecution by them and establishing the New Covenant. Under which the people of God are his Temple, City, and Kingdom in which He dwells through his Spirit, and who embody His presence in earth among men.
TO ALL PRETERISTS:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy.
REPENT, while you can
You should have taken the extra hour to flesh out your approach. The rushed version leaves alot to be desired.
At the time, I didn't have 'the extra hour.' I am, however, launching a two year verse by verse study of Revelation in about a month (fall 2019). Hopefully you will be interested in following along!
I look forward to it
Here is a thorough study:
The End of Time: A Study of the Book of Revelation
video.wvbs.org/program/the-end-of-time-a-study-of-the-book-of-revelation/
Hi Mr gore, I want to start by saying thanks for these videos, I've watched all ten lectures, and I'm putting my comment on the last video, because I've just finished it, I've found all ten video's an excellent study of church history, I can see you've put a lot of time into your studies, and they are much appreciated, I starting a journey with preterism last year, and I do believe it, I would consider myself a partial preterist, are you full pret or partial pret, why I find it hard to except full, is because it doesn't leave much hope for a Christian, in regards to christ coming, do you believe there will be a future coming of christ, if so could you provide some scripture, really enjoyed your videos and have subscribed to your channel, my the Lord bless you.
+Christ the saviour Full Preterists believe that Jesus will come for each person when you die. Your spirit returns to Jesus.
+Christ the saviour Full Preterists believe that Jesus will come for each person when you die. Your spirit returns to Jesus.
Stephan Coertzen thanks for clarifying that,didn't know that's what they believe, I like Mr gore and Mr gentrys teaching, it's what I would believe that christ will come back fiscally.
Brother, Let the spirit of God guide you. Not men. Receive the blessing of God's tabernacle with you now.
Stephan Coertzen Amen thanks for the encouraging words, may the Lord bless you.
Professor Gore, this is a wonderful lecture. I'm curious: Do you lean more toward full preterism or partial preterism? Do you believe Ezekiel 38 and 39 has already been fulfilled or that those chapters are still future? Thank you!
And so I have finished your first 10 videos on this .... to be honest Mr Gore, I still find it difficult to accept and am one that have read over Revelations many times over since the mid eighties. I became aware of preterist views since the mid 90s. Also I have read several books on church history from Broadbent's The Pilgrims Church,Earlier Cairns books, as well as a book by Dr Roy Fish concerning Baptist history. I took a good long look at Amillenialism in the 90s, and admit that I I do like the optimism it presents. But I have to still ask myself is it accurate though? I am looking at my library as I write this especially a book by George Eldon Ladd. Another section are some Messianic works as well as a book on how antisemitism rose in various denominations over the centuries. I also have consulted (ask questions concerning views and perspectives on the tribulation) with three authors (Mark Davidson, Joel Richardson, and Nelson Walters) on eschatology in the last five years concerning their premillennial views. So you can see where I am coming from and why it is not easy to accept a preterist view. I don't have time to elaborate. But I do want to present my position on prophecy as having a double entendre with it, especially with Daniel 7-8. So if Iran, the Ram, does charge into the Middle East in the coming two years, I would suggest, Mr. Gore of giving premillennialism a second reconsideration. I appreciate the videos. I thought I would give it another review but really can't see it. I do think we need to keep a positive perspective and Revelation should always be read as such. It is to focused on Christ always. One author, Daniel Juster suggests it has interesting parallels with it to the plagues and deliverance from Egypt.