Old Foreigner Discusses Western Men Who Marry Thai Bar Girls & Take Them Home
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- 🌏 Join us on a riveting journey as we sit down with Paul, an expatriate with 38 years of experience in Thailand, for an eye-opening interview that delves into the often overlooked and misunderstood world of relationships between foreign men and Thai bar girls.
🗣️ Paul shares his insights into the challenges faced by these women who, leave their homeland to start anew with foreign husbands. Brace yourselves for an honest conversation that sheds light on the dark side of these unions, where dreams clash with reality.
🔍 Discover the untold stories and shocking experiences as Paul recounts horror stories of bar girls abroad, grappling with gambling addictions and navigating unsupportive relationships. This interview aims to dispel myths and offer a sobering look at the struggles faced by Thai bar girls when transplanted into unfamiliar territories.
🤔 Are these relationships built to last, or are they ticking time bombs? Paul provides valuable insights into the dynamics that often lead to these unions unraveling, leaving us questioning the motivations and consequences that echo beyond the Thai bar scene.
🔓 Uncover the truth, challenge preconceptions, and engage in a thought-provoking discussion that goes beyond the surface. Hit play and join us on this compelling journey into the lives of Thai bar girls abroad, as told by someone who has witnessed it all firsthand. Don't miss out on this exclusive interview - subscribe now for more eye-opening content! 🎥🌟#marryingathaibargirl
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00:00 Intro
01:11 Taking a Thai bar girl home
06:36 why the relationship is doomed
08:59 farangs want a trophy wife
12:10 what happens to unmarried bar girls?
13:48 bar girls & gambling addiction
15:11 is a mammasan a pimp?
Links to Pauls Books:
The Essential Expat's Guide To Living in Thailand: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00T1VJKLY
A Wanderer's Words: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09YRT5F59
I've got a bunch of stories of these fools building houses for these women here in Thailand and they get throwin out. They're not even bar girls. It's the older generation. The guys younger than me would never get married or bring them back to their home countries. You bring the Phillipinas back too and half of them run off. They were not even bar girls either. There's an old saying, "If it flies, floats or F'ks you're better off renting" . Don't marry western waaahmen either. They're toxic and end up divorce raping you.
Do you know of any books similar to this about the Philippines?
Why would any sane older person think that marrying a prostitute is a good prospect for either party?
2 things that make a person the most vulnerable:greed and lonliness.
Hookers make the best wives
Often the men that do this are kind of lonely types who don’t have much luck with the ladies in their home country, or they’re older pensioners. Dare I say, some are flawed loser types (not at all saying this is always the case). But they’re not necessarily great guys all the time, as he describes in this video.
@@jeb419 If they have loads of money it helps a little. When you marry a bar girl, you are also marrying her penniless family. If the money runs out, so does the woman.
because he can't believe his luck that a man of his social standing and or looks or personality has access to such a variety of females.
One of the first things my Thai girlfriend, now wife, told me was that she didn’t want to move to the US. I replied that I felt the same
Is that unusual? Do most women want to come to the US? I would think they would miss their family so much.
@@bunjijumper5345 Yes you are correct and no it isn’t unusual. There is a cohort of people out there that think everyone is desperate to go to the US and that the only reason a Thai woman would be with an American would be to get a green cart. Not everyone wants to live in the US. I’m am American and even I don’t want to live in the US.
Thanks for your response. I thought the funniest part of the video was where he said men should have women sit in a freezer for an hour just so they can see what our weather is like. It just seems crazy to me that people would want to come from Thailand to where I live in upstate NY!
I am so glad you found happiness there in such a great climate.@@martypoll
My Thai ex fiancee was the same, she didn't want to come to Australia. Family is so important to her. I couldn't see myself living in Thailand at the time, I worked in IT Infrastructure and nobody would be able to employ me, I didn't have lots of money to start a business. In the end she got a job in an English school in Bangkok and was cheating on me so there it ended.
Same with Canada. Canadian corrupted.
I was a Family Lawyer for 30 years. I had a client come in asking me to Draft a Pre Nuptial Agreement, he was planning to marry a Thai Bar Girl. This man was in his 50s, he had never married, he was very, very, very,wealthy. I gave him both barrels, he explained the situation. I then proposed a radical restructuring of his business and assets, luckily he was the co-owner of his business with his brother, so I was able to re-structure very creatively. I also drew up the Pre Nup. She took the Agreement to an Independent lawyer and signed it, they married, she got pregnant within 3 months. Fast forward a few years, his son plays with my grandson, they are often visitors in my home, they even come to stay at our weekender. The lady is a wonderful woman, a great wife from what I can observe and he is ecstatic. His brother loves her, his brothers wife and kids love her. They visit Thailand regularly. I do stress, she is a great woman.
Nice to hear a story like that.
I could listen to Paul for hours and hours. Always such an incredible storyteller!
Agreed. One of the best hidden story tellers out there.
It's all common sense he is reiterating! He's no genius--he has thought it out and he has had first hand experiences!
agreed.. and he has the right voice to go with... very pleasent listening to him !
I agree about his voice. He should be a book reader for books on tape. Some people just don’t sound pleasant.
It is not only Thai bargirls that have trouble moving to "the west".
A "regular" Latin America woman missed her family, the food and her neighbors. Hated the weather and was depressed by the lack of sunlight. Not to mention learning a new language from people she finds very cold.
You are not doing her any favors by bringing her "home"
With a Latina you MIGHT pull it off if you live somewhere trendy - US examples = Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New York City or Miami (especially Miami). European examples = London, Rome, Madrid or Barcelona (especially Madrid and Barcelona). Forget it if you're from a cold, wet, second tier European city or some hick town.
@@timothyoreilly6675 Hick towns are full of Latinas
Not even Latina .
I am Spanish 🇪🇸 and I miss my culture a lot. Same happens to Italians and Greeks
@@fatimateresa19 Thanks
@@fatimateresa19 Should I tell you?
One thing I like about Paul is that he doesn't assume he knows everything about Thailand, just kind of talks about his experiences..
It is always a pleasure to follow your interviews with Paul. I am the same age and life approximatelly similar amount of years in Thailand, I can relate to everything he explained here in the interview out of experience in this country. Paul is spot on and has a deep understanding of the Thai culture and what it really means to spend your life in this part of the world. Additional he is a great story teller with a brilliant mind.
All the best to both of you and I would not mind a few more interviews with Paul, as 'fallangs' should listen to him (I know they don't, as they always tend to think my girl is different, bla, bla, bla, but actualle the new arrivals have no understanding how these girls grow up or no clue regarding their educated system or about Buddhism, most tourists have no understanding of Thailand or Asia it is a very different way of thinking and living - I not blame, how should a foreigner know all these issues if just arrived there. (we all went trough it)
Just a hint - there is so much to learn from Paul about life and regarding Thailand and their culture.
Thank you for another amazing interview....👍🙏
Paul is such a fascinating character, not to mention being an incredible storyteller. Please have more and more interviews with him Pete. I'll never tire of hearing his stories and insights.
This guy is the Keith Richard’s of Thailand…
Cigarettes included … 😂
Snuggle tooth. I keep staring at it.
Where can we listen to his music?
Don't you mean Keith Richard's dad?
it is the tooth and nothing but the tooth 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've missed the stories & wisdom of Paul. Thank Pete for bringing quality entertainment to the platform & unique stories and personalities
you're very welcome
Exception to the rule: My Thai wife (not a bar girl) of 29 years lives in the UK, works, pays for all the food, and doesn't want to live in Thailand. Lots of Thais here and none of them want to return to Thailand and they are all nice, honest and don't gamble, drink and are faithful. And she spoke good English when I met her. She is fluent now, speaking, reading, writing and drives everywhere, the gym, shoppings etc.
I love these interviews with Paul. Thanx mate!❤
Great interview as always Pete - love Paul too for his direct, explicate, and real commentary.
You never get rich through money - only by experience
That's why we like to listen to him
However, no money no honey, han$um man … 🎉
Thanks for creating and sharing
I married a Thai bar girl 25 years ago and brought her back to America. Still married even thought there were difficult times. Key was are ages are close and I moved us into a Thai community in the USA. So she has her friends and food. A lot of bar girls die young that don't get out of the game. My wife does like to gamble with her money, its in there DNA. Ever my village family likes to gamble in Isaan. Another great video guys.
I came to Thailand in the early 80's...Military.....many of my friends married Thai's back then and are still happily married......maybe 95%.....Yep, they were around the same age. Well said Thailand Thomas....cheers from an Aussie in Chiang Mai :)
Not a fan of the instant rushing to judgement of 'bar girls'. Far too many people that don't pause for just a moment to consider that they're all people first and foremost. Yes, there are some who are totally money focused, but the same can be said in many areas and sub cultures.
More power to you that you went for it and it has worked out.
@@SeanHendyas with anything else. If you heard someone was a hitman would you have preconceived notions about that person? What about a bank robber? What about an alcoholic? What about a monk? If it has 99% of a change to happen because 99% of the time it happens with said person with said background… it’s safe to assume you won’t be the 1% that lives happily ever after with a fully tatted, drinks every night, 35 year old with 3 kids in buriram living with auntie, and has had 27 guys in her this week alone… we all judge. That’s what makes us human and intelligent is being able to spot danger ahead. You ever met a bar girl in Pattaya? How about a 35+ year old bar girl been doing it since she was 16? They develop a brain and system of life that is immune to things a girl that’s 25 and had one bf and grew up in the you try that just graduated from college. It is what it is. No hate, no disrespect, just a point of view from my eyes and thoughts
@@portlandGTR Interesting comparison, but with respect, not really comparable or relevant. Let me explain. Of course there are seasoned pros that have been in the game a long time, and it is far too easy to throw all in the same stereotype. They're also quite easy to spot.
What is interesting is that if you (not you personally of course), the proverbial you, walk around with your eyes open and are observant, as well as being able to judge people well, you will know that there are a lot of such women, who are not there for a career as a bar girl. The turnover is very high. Many don't last long. One of the biggest take aways is a comparison of the industry with that which exists in the west. You would almost never hear of someone in the industry dating someone they 'met at work', let alone marrying them and starting a family, yet in Thailand, for many, that is their end goal, and it is a path that is well established.
I think that is my main point, is that people from the west, often bring their own preconceived ideas with them, based on what they know from home, without understanding that the culture in Thailand is very different indeed.
I've heard many a sob story of men that have been completely taken in, and taken advantage of, even saw a fellow tourist, now a friend of more than 14 years, absolutely fall for the girl he met, but, and maybe it is just me, I've had a very interesting life, and a very interesting career path, dealing with people from all walks of life in a myriad of circumstances, but people open up to me. I've had detailed conversations with many, telling me that they've been married before, some that have a kid back home, others, for whom this is (at that time) genuinely their first season. I know what you're thinking, but seeing how the bar manager was coaching the newbies, confirmed who was new, who was experienced etc. I did actually, on my last stay, take the manager out a few times, and stay at her place, I genuinely got the inside scoop of a lot of things.
To close, you are right, in your example, the fully tatted, drinks every night, is seasoned. Being able to afford loads of tattoos, the money has to come from somewhere, and we know where. Drinks every night, 35 yrs old, loads of tattoos, those are 3 red flags straight away. Avoid at all costs.
@@SeanHendyeveryone is different, and can never paint everything with the same brush. It’s possible to get lucky and find a good girl, but I don’t go to a tire shop to buy milk. I’ve definitely taken a few back with me to my condo and enjoyed every single one of those encounters. I have respect for them all even if I wouldn’t get into a relationship with one.
Excellent interviewer! I subbed....he has good timing and asks sound questions....he listens with his audience. That is a talent...not full of ego
To provide a different example with similar outcomes:
Not that long ago, ok, who am I kidding, it's got to be at least 15-20 years ago, when we still had a sizeable Army presence in Germany, there were all kinds of problems with soldiers and marriages.
Typically, many young soldiers, would be in their Regiment or Unit, living in the Block, and there were 2 scenarios that were quite common:
1) young soldier had a girl back home, and at some point when home on leave, pops the question, and gets married, one of the consequences of which (that could be motivations rather than consequence) is that he gets to leave the block, and move into an apartment or house, provided by the Army. More freedom, more privacy. The downside, is that 19 year old Tracy from Newcastle, had barely been out of the country before this, in fact she had to get a passport in order to follow her new husband, and now she is in a country completely alien and unfamiliar to her, she doesn't speak the language, doesn't know anyone, and the food is different. Sound familiar?
2) young soldier starts to see a young fraulein, locally, that he decides is the one, pops the question and gets married. The same thing happens, he moves out of the block into apartment/house, and all is peachy, he even has a live in interpreter now, that speaks the language, and knows the culture, and all is well. Until..... his posting ends and he gets posted, or the Regiment relocate, and now they are in Scotland, or Catterick, or Aldershot, and now, young fraulein, is in a country that is unfamiliar to her, she doesn't know anyone, the food is different, she can't buy any of the things she used to, there's less money to go round (there was an extra allowance paid to soldiers serving in Germany and it added up), the culture is strange, and she doesn't know as much of the language as she thought she did.....
Like many things in life, if you go running headlong into something without considering the consequences or changes you're going to have to make, then your odds of being happy or it lasting, rapidly decrease.
It also helps, for the men at least, to think with the big head and not the little head.
I agree man. I was stationed in baumholder, for out 4 years ago and planned on staying in country because I didn't care for america. But I knew 💯 that it wouldn't work for me bringing a girl back to the states into a culture where she has no social, cultural support. I can adapt anywhere, i don't expect the same of the women I deal with
Paul is a true gem I could listen to him all day. Even love his snaggle tooth. It adds to his uniqueness.
This guy is a legend of the channel. Knows his stuff and communicates it well
Totally agree, saw plenty of men taking back home these ladies met in bars or freelancers, thinking to save them. You taking back drama, problems, issues, lies back with you. They are used to eat every day papaya salad, do you really believe they like steak, pasta, or sofisticated cuisine to impress? Nahhh no way. They use the bill to show on their socials to their friends to show how their life is better than the other, show off only. Also to mention, if relationship goes bad, i heard many girls, wanted desperately to go Switzerland, and then came back in 3 months, even rejecting gifts, dont like the weather, food, alone, miss 7/11, family, friends...when they back to Thailand, guess what they gonna end up doing? back to freelancers. Yes, you heard right. No love there guys...
You right when honeymoon is over , all you got left is personality , if the woman doesn’t make you happy whenever you need to talk to someone, is not worth it no matter how pretty she is , she’s the devil in disguise
The show off culture is so immature, crude and kind of heartless. It's like hey look at me, I'm rich and you're poor, I'm better....Pathetic! And the fact they sell their bodies for that lifestyle should mean hiding under a rock if anything....
So they're marrying women 40 or 50 years younger than them, out of the goodness of their hearts? Yeah right.
@marisaera2353 To be honest, the guys who marry them really really fall in love with them and treat them well. The bargirls are devils though, for environmental reasons they're sociopaths. I guess it's understandable they become damaged when their parents pimp them out. From birth, these girls are told they will marry a weak foreigner and scam him...
This is a bloody good video. Well done both of you Pete and Paul,.
Another interesting vlog with Paul. He knows his stuff and well done for helping the Thai lady with good advice on what she needs to do.
Loving Paul's insights and opinions!! Long live Thailand 🇹🇭
Another great video....thanks guys!!!!
Your conversations with PAUL are among your best videos. Very very good work.
He is incredibly knowledgeable and you two just click and make it work .
Be well .
Thanks buddy
Where can I find more with this man? I wanna listen to him for hours! What an amazing person with a real voice and wit to tell stories and capture the essence of the whole picture. Is he on any other channels? If not can you please do a part 2 or even 3, 4-10 with him? What a fantastic episode man
here's a playlist of every interview I've done with him th-cam.com/play/PL8lk4tQnDinC4IXR48j7dUSUojDzkCzU9.html&si=QzMldk8omUVuFCAU
Great interview. Great stories. Loved the "sell by date" line. Will have to use that one 😂😂😂
Liked. Subbed. Looking for more.
Paul is a true legend, with good, basic human reflexions.. ❤
Great video, Pete. I could listen to Paul all day!
Hi Pete, I’ll be in Bangkok with my partner from Dec 29-Jan 2 and was wondering if you know someone (who we would pay) to give us a half or full day orientation tour of the city on December 30? We’re staying at the Four Seasons by the river. I don’t know if Chris’ nephew would be available or if you know someone else. Thanks Pete and keep up the great work.
Fantastic interview. Paul is really great.
Great Video! Thank you!
Hiya Pete. Another great interview with Paul.
Very interesting interview….. thanks man
Great interview as always Pete
Thanks so much
Great interview
Paul's a cool guy, would listen to him all day of his stories of Thailand and the Thais.
Very good interview
There is something about this guy's speech that tells me he is a natural language learner.
Please elaborate
Rapidity of finding, and using, a variety of good vocabulary. And he uses lilting tones, even in English. But 'being fluent' to many people is not often really being fluent.
@@andyharpist2938 I'm fluent in Thai sir
@@PaulWalliswriter Then you are special Paul. And have a unique gift that is the envy of many others. To achieve complete mastery of a language is a rare thing. I wonder what you might say is the key to learning? Marrying it might be a great help. Congratulations.
Great honest story teller
Paul is really wise.
Respect to him.
Good interview
Great videos mate!
Cheers mate
He's got awesome insights & storytelling
Good information from Paul as usual! Well done Pete!
Very sensible and realistic views of transactional relationships between western and foreign people.
This lad tells an absolutely fantastic story 👏👏🙌🙌
Love listening to Paul's stories and life experience. Thanks for sharing Pete
Fantastic, both of you.
I love your interviews with this guy. Very real and down to earth.
I loved listening to his stories.
that was an excellent interveiw. that bloke was very knowlable.
Love the collaboration between you two, hope there's more to come. All the best nevertheless!
absolutely mate, definitely more to come
Don’t forget about the “simp” factor. Those simps will never tell anyone the hell that they go through and live for lifetimes, just “to make it work.” The suffering is never worth it.
Always a great interview with Paul.
Left their brain at arrivals…..555.
I love this cat! Enjoy his stories. So interesting! And I also enjoy your videos,Thairish times. 🙏🏽❤️
Thank you!
Paul is great man I have learnt alot from him he is great story teller I could listen him hours
Great storytelling
Paul has many life experiences and sound advise
Wise words from Paul - and thanks for helping that trapped Thai sister out .
Absolutely amazing interview fellas. And one that I think a lot of us has been anticipating for a while now?! You guys seem to have a really good connection, and the interview just flows with a fantastic energy. Pete your questions were on point as always. And Paul's answer's are always as factual as they are intriguing. Great work as always my friend. How did you wedding go? I hope you guys and your families had the most incredible day! So you you back in Ireland now? Or still in the land of smiles? Top man! Liam 👍🏻
Cheers Liam, back in Ireland now looking forward to Christmas. Wedding was great craic here’s a video we made th-cam.com/video/9bbkRs5E1og/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_CRBqiOGgqGUtAem in true Thairish Times fashion the day was a mix of Thai and Irish culture
Excellent video pete, love paul fantastic guy. Are ya back in bkk full time now?
Not full time bud, someday though
Intelligent and wise man. Nice to hear that there are always 2 sides to the story. Some TH-camrs just tell the awful Thai Girl Stories when there are so many awful Western Men who come over here, for example, lie about loving them and knock them up and then abandon their responsibility. Next thing you know the Khun Yai is raising her child and the Thai Girl has to go work in the city and send the money back to the Isaan Village. And many end up in the bars. What can you expect her to do?
I lived in thailand for 11 yrs back in the uk with my thai wife for 11 yrs. Met her at a go go dancing 22 yr gap.im more embarrassed by the age gap. She works 6 days a week keeps every penny which suits me. Got more friends than me. Goes home for 2 months every yr. I like the peace. Pretty much a perfect relationship. I know I'm one of the lucky ones. So many of people I know have lost everything. The visas the expensive is the only problem.
I am absolutely impressed by this man. A well of wisdom. If only he could allocate a little more of his resources to taking care of his denatl health, I`d vote him the interviewee of the year.😉
Give it a rest putz...if he doesn't care about his "denatl health" why do you?
And stop smoking. So many farang men in Thailand smoke … ☠️
I do enjoy listening to Paul, but having a pop at us baldies, there is nothing you can do about losing your hair (apart from wearing a wig or a comb over) but you can do something with your teeth, I'm sure a lot of women would prefer a guy with teeth than no hair ......😁
@@theflatulentfreddy1🙄
Lmao Pete still putting out good content, thanks for the laughs guys
Where is the fishing lake Paul ? where the interview was held at. Thanks
This gentleman is very smart. Good advice for men.
When u interview Pual, l'll always watch. He's a cool guy.
This guy is the best.
38 years in Thailand and 38 years since he's been to a dentist lol 😆 😅 😂 😜 🤣
And a drug test would account for the beady bloodshot eyes.
love your show my dude. Please also talk about your lucky charms...
you’re American 100% only yanks mention lucky charms and think the world knows what they are😂
Well Done Paul for helping that girl!
Good one Pete
cheers mate
Such great insight and advice. This guy is a legend.
Good Story. Paul is completely Right. You are a Good example Pete, it can be good, because Nune is not a Bar Girl and has her own Job and her Life. 🙏
Good on him for helping that poor girl.
When I first come to Thailand I jumped on the bar scene I thought that’s all there was to offer here then you meet a normal working thai women and it’s like there is two different universes running parallel in Thailand 🤣 bar girl easy to keep happy normal Thai wow seriously hard work in regards to expectations of behavior but show love and loyalty that does not exist anymore in the west
Pete ,have you thought about a comic con for your regulars?I can see Paul , Steve Rosse , Tony ,Bangkok Pat sitting at desks with subscribers lining up to buy books and get autographs ?
Haha that would be a sell out
@@ThairishTimes Yes , but think of the billboards.
Paul tells it AS IT IS. 👍
Sounds good. A "manager " l never liked the word pimp, that's what i,m going to do ,become a "manager" have a respectful job managing a team of ladies as "sales reps "👍👍
Pauls got a 💓🙏
hes great to listen to
My buddy married a Thai gal in the 70’s. She treated him like a king.
lucky
Things have changed a lot from the 70s.
Those days are gone!
I hope he treated her like a queen back
In the long run it's a very silly move to marry a bar girl. Been going there for 35 years. It's almost guaranteed to end badly. Likely once they're eligible to stay in the foreign country permanently they'll divorce, when they see greener pastures. A big part of being a successful bar girl is being able to deceive the customer. And it'll be very costly, as most aren't isually qualified to do anything else for work.
Complain about the bar and club girls in your own country, yet go to other countries and hit the bar and clubs, this is hilarious! Engaging in sex tourism still makes you a garbage person.....
I've met guys traveling in Thailand who dated Thai girls and they told me they like them because they're like the 1950s housewife and they just do what they say, while American woman want more respect. A young Thai girl just want somebody to support them and they keep asking them for money for their family etcetera. I was in Thailand for 9 months
And older western women are the same. They need a financial sponsor. When they cost the same, go for the newer product 🤷🏼♂️
Desperation is the English way
Quiet desperation is the English way ..
I see Paul. I click.
The wisdom of ol' 1 tooth
I'd love to see a video with 'Vlogging a dead horse' channel, that'd be fun
Paul is a very smart man
Sell buy date~ I love Paull, he's so interesting
Good advice from an old-school expat!
I know two men married in Thailand. They both have/had wonderful wives. One of them lost his wife. He still loves her and always will so much that he dosen't want anybody to say her name if it's not him. R.I.P. Beautiful 💐❤️🔥
you should do a video about Dental Work with Paul ... seems he knows everything else except for looking after his teeth ..... 55555
38 years in Thailand and not even 1 visit to the dentist 😂
He likes soup only
What are you on about mate? His tooth looks fine to me.
@@shadmo8629 55555
@@shadmo8629-Excellent. Think positive.
Shout out to Paul 👍
How very true, totally agree! been married to a Thai woman 10 years now and when we meet she could not speak any English except for "hello how are you" I think that helped our relationship as we had to make sure we each understood what we where trying to convey to each other , she raised 2 handicapped children on her own in Bangkok and never worked in a bar, you have to be committed to the relationship and have patience for it to work with a woman from a non English country. Paul has some great stories and Im sure there is plenty he could/would tell off camera
High risk but extremely rewarding when it works out as I can happily confirm.
British dentistry at its finest 😊