As an intermediate mixing and mastering engineer, I really love your content. You guys make really informative content that explains more complicated concepts in simple ways, and that kicks ass. Keep going ❤️
seriously high quality info here my dudes, straight to the point and with great examples, wish more content would follow your direct educational content style, many thx to you all
Definitely my favorite channel when it comes to this stuff. Super informative, clear and you got a very relaxing voice that makes it easy and pleasant to listen to. Amazing stuff.. Thanks!
I don't fully understand. So if my session is set at 44,1KHz, the oversampling option allows me to go beyond this initial setting on a particular track. Right ? I don't understand how a plugin can partially change the sample rate of a session just for itself. It's like let's say you're given a box of chocolates for a total of 1kg but if you want you can change the size of some chocolates and have some bigger ones but without affecting the total weight.... but ok. But, what leave me even more confused is : if I'm recording from my audio interface set at 44,1KHz, how can the plugin can magically change the quality of the incoming signal ? Also if I'm using oversampling with a plug-in on one track. Does this also affect how the other plugins work on the same track ? Because if suddenly the signal is now sampled x2 (So 88kHz in our case), I guess it goes for the track in overall, no ? What am I missing ?
i think a sample rate is the rate of sampling, so the faster the sample rate, the more information recorded per second in the audio. this makes the audio better and more detailed. The distortion comes from digitization, which is opposed on the sound when it is sampled. Every digital effect needs to sample the sound in order to impose it's effect upon it, so if you use a faster sample rate, the sampling of the sound will be more accurate and less noticeably digital sounding.
Why would there be aliasing at 30khz in a file that is capped at 22khz max? Why would there be any such signal? Isn't all of that lowpassed out anyway?
So (most likely, dumb question ahead) as I understand it, there are many benefits to working, generally, at higher sample rates. My question is, what are my choices as a budget oriented home “producer”, afterwards, when I need to send the track off in 44.1 kHz / 16 bit format to the music platforms. Are there any not too pricey ways of downsampling. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! If you're working in a higher bit depth, and need to reduce it, you can use dithering which is usually an option via your DAW when you export. As for lowering the sampling rate (I'm assuming you're going from 48kHz to 44.1kHz.), you should be alright if you simply convert it in your DAW when you export your mix/master - no additional steps needed. SageAudio.com
@@sageaudio I don’t mean to be repetitive, but (assuming everything else in the project is “release worthy” in the first place) is this process release worthy. I use Logic Pro and the long term plan is to put out my ideas if possible, by myself. Thanks much for replying.
@@sageaudio great to know! most definitely will send you guys a mix of my bands song we plan to release on spotify this summer. how do we credit you for mastering or how do we go about that?
Always wondered about this so thanks for the video! Do you know if oversampling persists through subsequent processing? Or is it isolated in just that one plugin, returning to the session sample rate once the signal has passed through?
Well, what is the meaning of "Phase" issues or problems or cancellation or something like that, what is the meaning of it sage audio? I'm a little bit confused aha smh
You could define Phase as your audio inverted part. 4 - 4 = 0. It's like a perfect copy of that audio in particular that goes contrary to you. When your Audio go up with an certain amount of force, the Phased Audio goes down with the same amount of force... Totally cancelling the effort. So it doesn't sound at all... It's a technique used in various ways. For example a Singer's headphones could "bleed" noise into the Microphone, or even his voice could feedback... By applying Phase you could try to cancel these noises. Another advance use of phase is when you want to filter certain content of the sound. Imagine a kick you want mute, by adding a similar one and inverting the phase you could filter it out... So many creative things you could do with phase. But inside a mix it could cause problems with other instruments or tracks. Hope this helps
@@rumar4u Ruben you’re talking about a complete 180 degree flip of a sound wave that equals opposite polarity and hence full cancellation. There are plenty of phase issues that happen between 2 or more similar signals/frequencies being in cyclical step and being out to the point you described. When there is a time shift between same combined frequencies they can sum and subtract in sections of the wave that are not at the peaks and troughs, thereby skewing the shape of the resulting signal and sound. Anything that affects the timing between similar signals is going to bring about a shift they’re married together. That can be from conflicts caused by multimiking, room reflections messing with the direct signal at a mic, delays caused by plugins and so on. Sometimes what crops up can suit the listener’s taste and can be used in the upper frequencies for spread, but it’s something to watch out for, especially with the lower frequencies. Can’t elaborate more due to battery about to die...
@@colinbudd5840 Sorry part of the reply got cut, probably my mistake, but I was trying to be as simple as possible in order for her to understand. But thanks for it.
Thanks for watching Riona! The "Phase" issues are just waveforms conflicting with other waveforms. So the aliasing distortion that occurs interacts with the original signal, and causes "destructive interference" making the original signal quieter, and potentially causing unwanted stereo imaging. SageAudio.com
Question o/ If I use a plug in like the MLimiterX for example, can I just use it to oversamplify or do I have to use other features in the plug in as well for it to work? And by how much would you recommend we increase it? Like you said not too high for the processor:0
Thanks for watching Dave! Mainly because it's a lot of work for a computer to handle. Ideally, we could just use a higher sampling rate for the session, but oversampling is a good alternative. SageAudio.com
@@sageaudio Thanks. I thought as much, but at the time I was the first or second person to comment, and I thought the question needed to be asked just for the sake of clarity. :)
Oversampling doesn't do something noticeable? I don't agree. It depends on the plugin. Oversampling is not something you should always use or maybe not too often. Sometimes adding os it changes the sound quite a lot, it's like you have cut low end and boosted some high frequencies, that's my experience. Aliasing is not an issue per se, sometimes with aliasing it sounds even closer to an analog emulation.
it gives more resolution, it makes more of the signal sit in space rather than in a "digit" so to speak resulting in a more lifelike sound. If you buy really good converters or a really good clock, like Prism or Forssell for example, you don't need as much oversampling.
As an intermediate mixing and mastering engineer, I really love your content. You guys make really informative content that explains more complicated concepts in simple ways, and that kicks ass. Keep going ❤️
Awesome! Great to hear that you're enjoying it! Thanks for watching!
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Agreed. The other channel that is great is in the mix. With the British dude.
this is the type of shit you have to go to school 4 years for lol good looking big homie!!! Sage Audio is full of real nikkas!!!!
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seriously high quality info here my dudes, straight to the point and with great examples, wish more content would follow your direct educational content style, many thx to you all
Thank you so much - glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment
learned about this channel a couple weeks ago and am really loving all the videos you guys put out!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
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no one is giving away that information
that's why I really love your content
I've learned a lot from you guys thank you
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Definitely my favorite channel when it comes to this stuff. Super informative, clear and you got a very relaxing voice that makes it easy and pleasant to listen to. Amazing stuff.. Thanks!
That's awesome! Thanks for watching Raoul!
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Best video on oversampling 🔥
Awesome, thank you!
Yes!! & now I know what you're talking about!!💌 thankU for this nice info Sage audio!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
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Trying to learn something new every day and this really helped ngl
Awesome! Great to hear that - thanks for watching Trevor!
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@@sageaudio no problem!
If i oversampled when i master , can i erase the alliasing of the mixing when i mixed?
I don't fully understand. So if my session is set at 44,1KHz, the oversampling option allows me to go beyond this initial setting on a particular track. Right ? I don't understand how a plugin can partially change the sample rate of a session just for itself. It's like let's say you're given a box of chocolates for a total of 1kg but if you want you can change the size of some chocolates and have some bigger ones but without affecting the total weight.... but ok.
But, what leave me even more confused is : if I'm recording from my audio interface set at 44,1KHz, how can the plugin can magically change the quality of the incoming signal ?
Also if I'm using oversampling with a plug-in on one track. Does this also affect how the other plugins work on the same track ? Because if suddenly the signal is now sampled x2 (So 88kHz in our case), I guess it goes for the track in overall, no ?
What am I missing ?
oversampling is like sampleing except but more better.
i think a sample rate is the rate of sampling, so the faster the sample rate, the more information recorded per second in the audio. this makes the audio better and more detailed. The distortion comes from digitization, which is opposed on the sound when it is sampled. Every digital effect needs to sample the sound in order to impose it's effect upon it, so if you use a faster sample rate, the sampling of the sound will be more accurate and less noticeably digital sounding.
Thanks for explaining this
Thanks for watching it and leaving a comment!
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On another question ,do the other saturation plugins have oversampling feature? For example we can't see the oversampling knob in Aphex from Waves
Such gems these vids, thank you
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
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Dear sage audio how much can we use oversampling in mixing? Too much oversampling in the mix will cause trouble for us?except cpu issues
Why would there be aliasing at 30khz in a file that is capped at 22khz max? Why would there be any such signal? Isn't all of that lowpassed out anyway?
Awesome info. Thank u so much!
Thanks for watching Flavio!
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1024 OVERSAMPLING!!!! Wow MeldaProduction is not fooling around....Thank you for the video.
Exaggerated in my opinion as 4x is more than enough to not have aliasing thrown back at your mix.
I tried it out of curiosity and it didn't go well haha. Thanks for watching!
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Many thanks; it helps a lot
Companys like UAD advise against using oversampling on the masterbus, unless the plugin has a mix blend with any setting other than 100% wet.
Good stuff man!!
What's the best over sampling plugin
So (most likely, dumb question ahead) as I understand it, there are many benefits to working, generally, at higher sample rates. My question is, what are my choices as a budget oriented home “producer”, afterwards, when I need to send the track off in 44.1 kHz / 16 bit format to the music platforms. Are there any not too pricey ways of downsampling. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! If you're working in a higher bit depth, and need to reduce it, you can use dithering which is usually an option via your DAW when you export. As for lowering the sampling rate (I'm assuming you're going from 48kHz to 44.1kHz.), you should be alright if you simply convert it in your DAW when you export your mix/master - no additional steps needed.
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@@sageaudio I don’t mean to be repetitive, but (assuming everything else in the project is “release worthy” in the first place) is this process release worthy. I use Logic Pro and the long term plan is to put out my ideas if possible, by myself. Thanks much for replying.
thank you so much dude
i loved the video! if we send you a mix for sage audio to master for free like the video said, how long do you think it would take?
Thanks for watching! Usually the turn around time is about 1 week!
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@@sageaudio great to know! most definitely will send you guys a mix of my bands song we plan to release on spotify this summer. how do we credit you for mastering or how do we go about that?
Always wondered about this so thanks for the video! Do you know if oversampling persists through subsequent processing? Or is it isolated in just that one plugin, returning to the session sample rate once the signal has passed through?
Oversampling is per plugin. If you want to mimic oversampling on the whole processing chain, you can simply set a higher sample rate in your session.
Thanks for watching Theo! JS said it well!
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This can be a complex subject. I suggest reading about it from many sources.
Well, what is the meaning of "Phase" issues or problems or cancellation or something like that, what is the meaning of it sage audio? I'm a little bit confused aha smh
You could define Phase as your audio inverted part. 4 - 4 = 0. It's like a perfect copy of that audio in particular that goes contrary to you. When your Audio go up with an certain amount of force, the Phased Audio goes down with the same amount of force... Totally cancelling the effort. So it doesn't sound at all... It's a technique used in various ways. For example a Singer's headphones could "bleed" noise into the Microphone, or even his voice could feedback... By applying Phase you could try to cancel these noises. Another advance use of phase is when you want to filter certain content of the sound. Imagine a kick you want mute, by adding a similar one and inverting the phase you could filter it out... So many creative things you could do with phase. But inside a mix it could cause problems with other instruments or tracks. Hope this helps
@@rumar4u Ruben you’re talking about a complete 180 degree flip of a sound wave that equals opposite polarity and hence full cancellation. There are plenty of phase issues that happen between 2 or more similar signals/frequencies being in cyclical step and being out to the point you described. When there is a time shift between same combined frequencies they can sum and subtract in sections of the wave that are not at the peaks and troughs, thereby skewing the shape of the resulting signal and sound. Anything that affects the timing between similar signals is going to bring about a shift they’re married together. That can be from conflicts caused by multimiking, room reflections messing with the direct signal at a mic, delays caused by plugins and so on. Sometimes what crops up can suit the listener’s taste and can be used in the upper frequencies for spread, but it’s something to watch out for, especially with the lower frequencies. Can’t elaborate more due to battery about to die...
@@colinbudd5840 Sorry part of the reply got cut, probably my mistake, but I was trying to be as simple as possible in order for her to understand. But thanks for it.
:-). Been there. Cheers Colin
Thanks for watching Riona! The "Phase" issues are just waveforms conflicting with other waveforms. So the aliasing distortion that occurs interacts with the original signal, and causes "destructive interference" making the original signal quieter, and potentially causing unwanted stereo imaging.
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If I'm using LUNA to record in at 44k, if I export my master at a higher sample rate will it give the same results as oversampling on a plugin?
Unfortunately it will not give the same results. Thanks for watching!
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Question o/ If I use a plug in like the MLimiterX for example, can I just use it to oversamplify or do I have to use other features in the plug in as well for it to work? And by how much would you recommend we increase it? Like you said not too high for the processor:0
The only way to get rid of nasty frequencies in the artificial digital domain. I switched to 96khz and have to bounce and freeze more. But so what.
Nice glad to hear that helped!
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I'm still not sure about it, why not just set the DAW to sample at a higher rate?
cause then a black hole will spawn in your living room
I'm doing both!
You could, but then you might be applying higher sample rate to parts of the processing chain that don't need it, while increasing the cpu load.
Thanks for watching Dave! Mainly because it's a lot of work for a computer to handle. Ideally, we could just use a higher sampling rate for the session, but oversampling is a good alternative.
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@@sageaudio Thanks. I thought as much, but at the time I was the first or second person to comment, and I thought the question needed to be asked just for the sake of clarity. :)
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Thanks for watching Gary!
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Oversampling doesn't do something noticeable? I don't agree. It depends on the plugin. Oversampling is not something you should always use or maybe not too often. Sometimes adding os it changes the sound quite a lot, it's like you have cut low end and boosted some high frequencies, that's my experience. Aliasing is not an issue per se, sometimes with aliasing it sounds even closer to an analog emulation.
it gives more resolution, it makes more of the signal sit in space rather than in a "digit" so to speak resulting in a more lifelike sound. If you buy really good converters or a really good clock, like Prism or Forssell for example, you don't need as much oversampling.
Why would "harmonics be reflected down the frequency spectrum"?