Top 5 10mm Factory Ammunition Brands for Alaskan Bear Defense: The Definitive Report
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I'm still a fan of the 44 magnum 4"-5.5" barrels.
Hey Chuke......... wmtelle here. I have enjoyed every video. Very interesting and informative. And accurate. No BS here. Just a couple comments. You talk frequently about the Glock 20. But no mention of the 6-inch Glock 40. I have found a 50 to 80 fps gain in velocity with the same ammo in the Glock 40. Also you have made no mention of shooting 40 S&W in a 10MM. No manufacturer recommends this, however it is a fairly common practice. It makes for more practice because of the cheaper ammo of the 40S&W .One final thought. When I was a young buck, an old man told me that "shot placement is king, penetration is queen and everything else is just angels dancing on the head of a pin." This advice has served me well for over seven decades now. Be safe. Shoot straight...and often. wmtelle said that.
Hey thanks! The Glock 40 is great! I haven’t used a lot of 40 S&W in my 10mms but it is an option!
Because it’s Chuke that’s why !
Thanks for sharing and regards from Washifornia
Buffalo bore is what’s coming to mind pre video.
More like underwood
What a time to be a 10mm fan, pretty much every store I go into I can find one now, so glad that I have multiple platforms to choose from other than just glock, which I'm personally not a fan of as my Gen 4 had nothing but problems, I just wish corbon still made their 180gn bcsp load my X-10 really loves it
Move to Connecticut lol you’d be pissed! It’s like a holiday when I do find it
I picked up a G40 gen4 a few months ago. What kind of problems were you having with yours? Just curious as to what I might be on the lookout for.
@@MapesT so my G40 had a couple FTF and FTE but the biggest one that gave me problems was my G20 Gen 4, it was inaccurate as hell, and the last 5 rounds of every mag would either get caught on the feed ramp or stove pipe, so freaking annoying, my Gen 3 20 was such a better pistol
If only ammo manufacturers would catch on and do the right thing and make all 10mm ammo PROPER 10mm ammo. Theres such an abundance of great 10mm guns out now, but theyre swimming in a sea of watered down ammo. And proper 10mm ammo is almost prohibitively expensive. Sig makes some good 10mm ammo too.
I handload my own” Buffalo bore “
200 grain HC same exact bullet, same brass but my own recipe which is far better than BB. Can’t stress enough how beneficial hand loading can be.
I don't think I've ever convinced anyone to do it. Part of it is there are all kinds of people online emphasizing how dangerous it could be.
You say same brass does that mean the small pistol primer or the large pistol primer brass? Large primer brass tend to start pushing primers at lower pressures than the small primer brass.
@@RadDadisRad Yes the same brass. They don’t make a 10mm case in small pistol primers. Only large pistol so I have no clue where you get that information.
I run large pistol magnum primers in my handloads as they are above max pressure.
@@mikerobinson8734 they do make small pistol primer 10mm. The more you know.
Let me amend this. BB hasn’t used small pistol primer brass in years for 10mm but they have used it and many other manufacturers use small primer brass because they don’t push primers as easily as large primer brass.
@@RadDadisRad I’ve never seen small pistol primer 10mm brass and even if they do the cartridge was never designed for it so why?
I said I used the same brass as Buffalo bore 10mm starline large pistol primer brass.
Same bullets in the 200 grn wfn and the 220grn. RimRock bullet co.
I run a full support KKM barrel with a compensator to slow slide speed down with stock recoil spring.
My loads are exactly the same as Buffalo bore with exception to the powder charge which I have worked up for my pistol.
I average 1308fps with the 200grn that’s just over 750ft lbs energy.
There is no published data for use in the 10mm with a small pistol primer case so I doubt your information is accurate. I have been loading for the 10mm for almost 20 years and have never come across it.
Post a link to where these can be found.
Great video my friend! I do have a 10mm video (sorry not trying to plug my stuff) showing velo vs underwood vs Buffalo bore. Underwood performed much better than Buffalo bore. Probably just depends on the lot. But these were post pandemic lots. Not trying to contradict you, just letting you know what I tested.
Great video. I just watched another video by NYPrepper and his conclusion is the same as yours. Both your video and his video answers all of my ammo questions. 220 grain or 200 grain BB is my choice. Love the way you always throw a couple of jabs at Chuck. Love the way he throws them at yiu in his videos. They always make me laugh.
We know the Glock will always be your favorite but appreciate the honest reviews of the other options.
Liberty, Grizzly & Fort Scott are my favs mostly due to local availability, but all are over 800 ft lbs.
I have serious doubts about 800 ft.lbs of ME for a actual bear defense load from any of the companies you mentioned. Underwood's hottest load is 155 gr FMJ at 1,500 fps and 775 ft.lbs ME, this is NOT a bear defense load, actual bear defense loads such as the 220 gr hard cast or 140 gr xtreme penetrators produce 704 and 700 ft.lbs respectively. Buffalo Bore's hottest rounds for bears are 220gr hard cast at 1,200fps and 703 ft.lbs or the 190 gr mono metal at 1,200fps and 607 ft.lbs of ME. Shooting a Liberty 60 gr bullet at 2400 and producing 780 ft.lbs IS NOT A BEAR LOAD. None of Grizzley's 10mm loads produce over 800ft.lbs and Fort Scott's 125gr solid copper moving at 1,611 fps produces a calculated 720 ft.lbs. Maybe with handloads you could get just over 800 ft.lbs in a true bear load.
@chrisdaniel1339 well, I didn't mention bear loads, just factory.
I have chronographed Liberty out of a 6" barrel at 2585 fps average, 60 grains comes out to 891 ft lbs. The same out of a cmmg 10" barrel hits 1005 ft lbs. So factory 10mm can easily exceed 357 mag loads all day long.
@@MichaelKMorris You must have missed the title of the video: "Top 5 10mm Factory Ammunition Brands for Alaskan Bear Defense: The Definitive Report." So the topic of discussion is 10mm loads for ALASKAN BEAR DEFENSE! 60gr high velocity rounds are NOT FOR ALASKAN BEAR DEFENSE. Heavy hard cast lead or solid copper penetrator bullets are what is required for ALASKAN BEAR DEFENSE.
@chrisdaniel1339 yes and no. There are a couple videos showing Liberty blowing right through 2x4's, even sideways. Granted, I haven't shot a single bear, and their skulls seem pretty thick but not impenetrable. Seeing how a .22 can take down a bull, I'll bet a Liberty round to the head would too.
@@chrisdaniel1339 You could do worse then Liberty 10mm for bears, its wound channel is close to a medieval pike. Obviously not an ideal bear load but i wouldnt feel underarmed facing a bear with it given that most bears are stopped from head or spine shots. Not blowing out the back of its ass....
Thanks for the info. Just bought a 1911 10mm in January, SA Ronin 5". I get 1328 fps average from Underwood's 180 XTP load. Happy with that. I'm going to get some 200 gr hardcast gas check bullets to try and handload a 1200 fps load for the woods here in north Idaho. I have all the equipment to do so so I might as well roll my own.
Big advantage of a 10mm handgun over a shotgun or rifle is ease of deployment. A shotgun slung over one’s shoulder or in a pack is slower to deploy then a handgun on your chest. You only have several seconds to react to most life threatening situations.
For the two underwoods.. #5 and #4 you mixed the videos up. The one you showed for #5 is the xtreme penetrator and the one you showed for #4 is the xtreme hunter. Just a heads up.
Thanks yeah lots of people noticed. It’s because I always unload the mags and put the rounds in the wrong boxes 😂
Underwood says on their website that their new Black Cherry Hard Cast (replacing the Hi Tek coating rounds) 200gr 10mm loads CAN be shot in Glock guns.
Ah yes because of the coating!
Can you test it for accuracy? It is bad in my G40 MOS (9-10 inch groups at 25 yards!)@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures
The cool thing with Underwood Ammo is less recoil that translates into faster rounds on target.
The underwood shot out of my cmmg banshee with 8” barrel consistently shoots above the box. Super accurate and easy to sling.
Many of us hunt primitive weapon seasons and all you can carry are handguns in some states, I have the FN 510.
Great choice!
So I’ve been getting into handgun hunting, I love 10mm. Had a couple 44 mags but could never get rid of the flinch. Anyways, I upgraded my glock 20, did a 6 inch match barrel, did the trigger, red dot, night sights. All the fun stuff. So I have the 10mm set up as an everything other than bird gun. I picked up some federal fusion 200gr. I know they’re plenty capable of taking deer, but do you think it would be a good way to drop a black bear at say, 20 yards? Just curious.
I think they would be fine for black bear…
I only run the underwood 220 coated hardcast out of my G40. I was planning on running the 100gr extreme defenders but i wasnt willing to bet my life on it over the hardcast
love that round, I run them out of my G40 too and love them. Damn accurate and hard hitting at 1200 fps
Thanks, Chuke!
I like Underwood's 10mm Auto 220 Gr FN HCL and 200 Gr FN HCL more than Buffalo Bore's 220 Gr FN HCL. Mainly because the accuracy, speed, and power are so close, but Underwood costs a lot less. I've heard and read that Underwood's FN HCL bullets have higher brinell hardness than Buffalo Bore's - I'd love to be able to verify this.
Since June 2022, I've run all three of these loads in my S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol with no issues of any kind... flawless operation. I'm running it with a 24# RSA and longer stronger 11-coil magazine springs. I also always clean and properly lubricate my guns before and after each use - Basic Gun Ownership 101.
- BB 20 x 220 Gr FN HCL
- UA 100 x 220 Gr FN HCL
- UA 80 x 200 Gr FN HCL
Of these three loads, I've found the UA 200 Gr load to be the most accurate out of my pistol at 25 yards. It also has slightly less recoil than the other two 220 Gr loads, as expected.
Good things! 👍
Great info thanks!!
True. Buffalo bore hard cast 220g does in fact foul a barrel of a Glock 29. I train with lower power and carry the good stuff just in case.
Underwood should have learned from the fallout the happened with DT when their loads chronographed significantly under advertised velocity, Underwood had everybody loving their ammo because it did chrono out well above advertised and was hot compared to most major ammo manufactures. What a way to piss off shooters/hunters that were loyal to the Underwood brand.
I live in Eastern NC…. Big Black Bear territory and Archery Hunt! I carry 10mm Glock 29 with rotation of Winchester Big Bore 10 200grain SJHP and Hardcast 200 grain…
I think your list is a good choice , especially for Florida Black Bear. I did not know about the 220 gain BB problems, i have some and no problem a few thru S&W, but i will look into the 200.
The 200 gn is very popular here! Cheers!
I use a Wolf threaded barrel which is rifled in my Glock 20 and it works great for all and gives some extra length.
I prefer the monolithic extreme penetrator/defender/defense over the hardcast. I have noticed with the penetrators on hogs that they penetrate shoulder plates so much better than the hardcast.
Really? I mean I have seen videos of extreme penetrators get through bulletproof glass, but maybe the hardcast still goes deeper through hide, fat, and flesh?
Alaskan here, and my last is Underwood, I carry the Rock Island HC THREADED 10MM 16RD pistol
If I can't use the T-Rex rated 45-70, then I have my trusty sidearm
Don't forget to clean and greese your firearms
Jacketed Hollow rounds seem to do amazing kinetic damage to big game
Excellent info, I always look forward to your videos.
My Glock 20 gen4 had 3 different malfunctions with Underwood 200gr hardcast and non with 220. Seems odd. I changed the recoil spring and the 200gr still had problems ,and I really wanted to use it. Expensive to test, even though Underwood is cheaper. From fail to chamber, to dropping a fully seated mag, to rounds nose up and nose down in top of mag midway through. Been a tough ride but I hate to change mid-stream to another platform.
video starts at 5:45
Great that modern USA ammo companies produce premium ammo now. In the 80’s and early 90’s USA ammo wasn’t cool so if you had the coin we purchased Lapua or Norma back then. Remington and Winchester did the job back then but not flash. Now USA factory ammo is much much better on the whole. And definitely for a self defence round you can’t afford to take chances! 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
I have shot gas checked hardcast through my stock Glock without much fouling but the bullets didn't stabilize and accuracy suffered. will be testing some double tap 230 grain hard cast through my Glock 40 with a lone wolf barrel for reliability. I give Glock and double tap credit for keeping the 10 MM on life support when it was waning. I have a couple boxes of double tap 180 grain hardcast for 357 Sig and would like to see it tested, shall I send you some?
For my house gun I use in my JXP10mm SIG V Crown JHPs they have some spice ...I go to bed sleeping very well with this Arrangement!😊
I’m with you Chukes…. No hardcast through my Glock 20 and 29 barrels. I use KKM barrels for that.
Excellent…
Excluding bear defense my favorite round is the underwood xtreme hunters. I love the performance on flesh.
Hey chuke you might want to check the underwood ammo i noticed the the extreme penetrators and extreme hunters are mixed up in the wrong box. The box of extreme penetrators are actually the extreme hunters and the box of extreme hunters are the extreme penetrators
Thanks bud. Yeah I got them mixed up because of loading them, taking them out fishing and on hikes, then loading them into the wrong box!
I totally agree with your findings. The grizzly ammo company 4570 +p in 405 and 420 grain crono pretty hot unlike their 10mm.
It’s a trend unfortunately…
10mm in 1911 is freaking awesome!
Delta Elite with Wilson 9 round mags
Say, what's your thoughts on big bore AR's for bear/moose defense? Being a newly wed couple up here in a small cabin, our budget is pretty minimal, and having an AR-15 already, I've been considering a Bear Creek Arsenal .50 Beowulf upper that I can snag for less then three hundred dollars. That or SBR Ammunitions .375 SOCOM upper for big-ish bore energy with higher velocities.
Any experience with the federal premium solid core 200 grain with the synthetic coating over the hard cast? Thanks for the info as always
I haven't even started the video yet, and im gunna say Underwood
Buffalo Bore is #2
I haven’t started yet I’m going to say Buffalo bore #1
Me either, Double Tap has to be on the list.
Yep, plus p xp hits the hardest barely deforms.
Yes
I have only found Buffalo bore 180 grain bullets where I live. Ive never seen underwood on the shelf in my home town.
Oh wow
It’s the opposite where i live
Underwood 200 HC and 200 XTP is what I stand by for my Glock 20/40.
Love your vids Chuke. Keep up the awesome work Sir.
I went with your number 2. I saw Hickock fire the buffalo bore and man was it smoky
Respectully asking you and Chuck to do more extensive tests on the 10mm woodsman by g9 vs. the hardcast please. Not enough out there.
I can't speak for your experience but in mine the underwood extreme defenders had the better hydrostatic performance. The others seemed a bit fast. Thats just me though. But it makes sense where a harder hit is needed versus a faster hit.
Interesting, thanks!
Great video chukes outdoors adventures. Yea Alaskan Ballistics done ✔️ his work as you on testing. He put down his grizzly with 338win in 45 super with hard cast.
As 10mm better than nothing. In bear country.
*_Hardcast_* lead bullets aren't the same as lead bullets . *_Hardcast_* lead _will_ _not_ do anything to the Glock barrel no matter what gen
Plain *lead* bullets _will_ gum up gen 4 › barrels .
Ive had a G20 since the 90's and have been shooting/and swapping out buffalo bore through it since MT view sports was the first to have the stuff in Anchorage. (Long time ) It doesn't come apart like that to make "ribbons" weird he had issues with it
Nowadays i carry the monolithic in my G20 because i think it performes better and the buffalo bore hard cast along with some HST's in my carry 9mm (G45)
Being in AK never know iff you need protection from a human or an animal
Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, Sig Sauer, Fiocchi, Magtech. Top 6
Not bad!
You forgot Grizzly
here in Europe we only get Magtech but compared to super weak S&B or Federal 10mm, its at least very warm
I live in Black bear country and carry a 9mm that holds 17 rounds of Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman ammunition. A 10mm makes perfect sense. The haters are gonna hate. Life.
220 grain Buffalo Bore runs flawlessly in the FN 510.
Can’t you get a 22 round mag for that? Seems like a great pistol, better than glock or Springfield
@@p0rcsyes, it comes with a 15 round and a 22 round on purchase pretty sure
Thank you for your videos! Were you guys able to retrieve those bullets from the black bear heads? Just curious if it was a complete pass through with minimal damage at that close range?
Underwood 200 grain cherry hardcast
Dude, those hard cast load have gaschecks, they don’t foul your Glock barrel. I’ve shot a ton of underwood hard cast and never any fouling, period.
Ok good to know thanks
A gas check has absolutely nothing to do with lead fouling concerning internal ballistics. Underwood utilizes a coating on their hard casts that keeps the lead from contacting the barrel and fouling the polygonal rifling. Don't shoot a ton of uncoated BB hard casts or you will foul your rifling.
Is this the greatest ever,,,,,,or just for Saturday? Just kidding ,,,luv your outlook. Have trouble choosing between my xdm full size or compact. One thing for sure underwood is hard to beat,,no matter the grain or type of metal……
Chuke, dude, you got the Xtreme penetrators and Xtreme hunters mixed up 😄. Your number 5 bullet was a Penetrator while your #4 was a Hunter.
Should we replace the Glock 20 barrel, and with what?
what do you think about Kimber 10 mm?
Gotta love the Underwood.
How about a 458 socom AR15 pistol? Have you ever tried that in your testing?
Not a pistol but the 458 is a great bear gun…
Underwood 220gn coated hardcast runs very clean through my stock G20 gen3 sf. I don't see anything different in the barrel when using jacketed ammo.
Chuke should run for office…. He changes his opinion every time they turn the camera on!😁Just kidding. I can’t make up my mind on what toy I like best today either. Keep up the good work.
Truth! Thanks buddy!
Buffalo Bore ,Grizzly , Underwood , Liberty/Civil Defense all loaded to 10mm specs
Sig Ammo, Gold dot ,Federal hst -Slower but bullets performs well
Have you tested double tap 10mm 200gr hardcast flat nose? Results
It’s been a long time since I’ve tested any double tap. I’ll have to get some!
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What about double tap 230 grain hard cast seems to be the most powerful 10 mil round for bear
Maybe it’s my luck but my Glock 20 gen 5 malfunctioned many times with all kinds of ammo. I cleaned it, lubed it but still unreliable. So I sold it. All of my other Glock’s are flawless. Maybe someday I’ll try the FN 10mm.
I’m staying away from the 20 gen5. My 20 gen4 with Alpha Wolf barrel has been the way to go. 100% reliable.
@@michaelhodges8312 That sounds good. Would you prefer the alpha wolf over kkm barrels?
I bought a 20 gen 5 last week and spent a stupid amount of money on ammo to test it out. It was one that the shop sent back to Glock for reinspection so I got it for a steal. I fully expected it to jam a bunch and need some work but it ran everything flawlessly. I think I just got really lucky.
My gen 3 and 4 20 are unreliable with full power. Glock makes good 9mms but 10mms not so much. I swapped to xdm elites and perfect reliability in all 3 of mine with thousands of rounds so far.
@@louisfolgore2879 yes, the newest Alpha Wolf barrels that just came out are an improvement around the throat and feed ramp compared to their old ones. I would get the new AW barrels.
Chuke ever heard of Liberty Overwatch ammo? Please do a test! 72g 9mm claims to penetrate deeper than underwood.
I’ll definitely stick with cash bullets. I dispatched a wounded 175 pound feral hog last fall with my Charter Arms Bulldog loaded with 250 grain RNFP’s at a whopping 720 fps. Due to the angle, the bullet penetrated around 10” and exited. The hog died instantly.
How dose the Underwood run through the g20 gen 5?
Hi point is best. Easy to clean, if you damage it is replaced.
Yep
If your gun is more valuable than your life, you'll kill yourself to protect it.
Is there a round nose fmj made for the 10mm? If so please give me the name brand and supplier. Thank you.
Only reason I dont own a 510 is spare mags are not cheapest. I like to have 6-8 that way i have extra in all my vehicles in case i forget or loose one
You showed these roudns backwards. You showed the extreme hunter and it was the extreme penetrator and vice versa you mix them up. I have them both and you got it mixed up man
I did. I’ve loaded them into mags and put them in the boxes incorrectly 😅
Wish I’d watched all of your videos before buying the 10mm I bought. I bought the S&W 10mm. Love the way it feels in the hand but after seeing so many failures online it definitely does not give me the warm fuzzies.
I would shoot it and test out ammo with it first. I have one as well and was sad about the reviews. I have yet to have any issues. I’m 400 rounds in. I’ve used to 220 grain HSM bear loads. 220 grain Underwood hard cast. 220 grain buffalo bore. And it all functions flawlessly. I’ve used 125 grain sinterfire and that also runs flawlessly. All of the under loaded regular factory full metal jacket, including Remington, Winchester, blazer brass, blazer aluminum, aguila, etc.. i have yet to have any sort of malfunction. Mine is the 4.6 inch barrel with no thumb safety.
@@dylankorpi137 thank you for the reply. I too have the 4.6in no safety version. I just bought some underwood ammo to run through it. Til now all I’ve shot is federal ammo. So far no failures.
4.6 version as well. About 600 rounds so far, with Buff Bore, Underwood, HSM, Grizzly, hard cast plus at least a handful of other 200gr HP ammo manufacturers tried. SO FAR not 1 FTF or FTE. Starting to fully trust mine is good to go now. Good luck & unfortunately it's expensive to truly test one out.
@@hammer95diesel good to hear. stay safe and keep shooting🤙
@@dylankorpi137 thanks and you too!
Federal’s new 200 grain hard cast Syntech coated seems promising nobody has tested it yet.
thanks
G9 10mm woodsman?
My family and I will be moving to Alaska in a couple of years after she receives her masters degree. I'll be buying a 10mm Springfield XD-M Elite for bear defence. That way we all can fire it. Less recoil and faster follow up shots than a 44 magnum. Also more rounds. I already have a Marlin 336 30-30 and Remington 870 3-inch magnum 12 guage. The 45 acp and 9mm's that I have just ain't gonna get it.
A good choice for sure!
You might need to check it up a notch on your 45 to a plus fear of 45 super or 450 SMC or hell even a 460 Rowland but you probably can't handle them big boy rounds can you 18 mm boys are pussies
Federal has some coated 200gr these days too
Hard cast in my opinion is the way to go 👍🏻
What you got wrong is you're buying factory ammo. You can the same thing as buffalo bore for 31 cents per round versus $2.15 for the factory loaded ammo. You also get to choose whatever bullet/velocity combo you want. And if you're going to encounter sasquatch you want solid copper. Their blood contains high levels of nitric acid, the reaction with copper disrupts their central nervous system. Only way to take one down.
True
You’re talking about investing hundred if not thousands of dollars plus the labor of love establishing test loads and working through different powder types.
@@RadDadisRad you can work for yourself or work for an ammo company. Take your pick.
@@RealDeanWinchester I do both but I’d rather work for an ammo company.
@@RadDadisRad excellent choice
200 gr. . Fmj fp
For bear
180 jhp for zombies
160 gr. schp for yotes and fast moving zombis
Good Afternoon 😃🌞 Everybody. I Hope That Everybody Is Having A Great 👍 Day Today.
I was a dumbass and didn’t realize Gold Dot pudloaded their 10mm defense ammo before buying 200 rds. Lesson learned. Underwood here on out.
Underwood 220 gr @1200 fps for the win
You're not going to get 1200 ft a a second out of 220 grain Underwood that's a fact maybe 11:50
@@GregoryAlcorn-o3g I'm usually skeptical of what the box says with regards to FPS but my brand new chrono and stock Glock 40 at 7000 ft asl sayeth otherwise.
Okay man I'll take your word for it@@reedjack6564
Tell em Chuke.... To use a RUGER 1022 with some Remington GREEN & YELLOW BOX "SHORTS" or EVEN THE CB's ON THE 10 FOOT GRIZZZZZ!!!!!!! & they'll be Good
The problem I had with hard cast in my gen 3 Glock 20 was keyholing, even at relatively short distance, like seven yards. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I’m going to Alaska on a trip for two weeks. I’m bringing my 10 mm what is the top line ammo for bear defense?
How about using a lone wolf 9" barrel in a Glock 20, with full power loads or a HiPoint 10mm carbine? You would get at least the velocity listed on the ammo box.
I'm still trying to figure our my 10mm ammo. All the reviews seem to be aimed at brown bears, understandably. But, my bears will be black. I'm interested in the solid copper fluted bullets that are small for caliber and fast… For example, Honey Badger 115 or Underwood Xtreme Hunter… Either seems good for deer, hogs, and carry self defense. NOT SURE IF THOSE ARE ADEQUATE FOR BLACK BEARS???? And I want to train with and carry the same rounds if I can find it in bulk for less than $0.80/round. I'm having trouble finding that, however. Maybe, I should go with a more traditional and cheaper 155 gr JHP???
Extreme Hunter great for black bear!
Chuke, once again, great review.
Hey man,
Go Pester Chuck, 😮😂
Last year May, I sent him TWO Med flat rate boxes "CHUCK" full of my Cast lead inclusing REAL HARD cast and conventional Hard cast POWDER COATED bullets. Hoping he would share with You. (I know you font reload)
He did say it would be "Winter" till he could get to it but he would!
Any experience with Double Tap Ammo?
I think you mixed the images of the extreme penatrators and extreme hunters up. My extreme hunters look like the extreme penatrators you showed
I'm a Buffalo Bore fan but I thought I understood that Double Tap made some similar ammo.
Need recommendations for belt and chest type holsters,,one or two or more of each style ,,for g20 gen5….
How does the FN510 perform with the Buffalo Bore Heavy Outdoorsman 220 grain? Thanks sir.
I’m here for all things 10mm!
Subscribing!
Thank you sir!
How do you feel about the extreme penetrator? I hear Mix reviews it doesn't group very consistently. Could just be the shooter?