Elrond's company travelled by foot because Payne & McKay had a Jackson Memberberry on their checklist, to have an aerial 360 degree view of a company hiking a New Zealand mountain ridge. (like the Rohan foot race to save Merry and Pippin). There was no way out, it had been nearly 2 minutes since the last member-berry.
it's so idiotically unnecessary. LOTR secrecy and stealth is why they walked out of Rivendell. Aragorn and crew had no choice but to chase after the orcs on foot but when offered horses they took it. There was no reason for these elves to walk all the way on an urgent mission.
To be horrifyingly fair, I did my first ever Temu purchase a couple of weeks ago: Lothlorien brooches, a One Ring on a chain, a Gondor crest, a Thorin's Map mousemat and a thin canvas map of Middle-earth. Is there an IP problem? Well, to be fair, the official stuff has garbage like "Middle-earth Enterprises" or "The Lord Of The Rings™" plastered all over it (and some fraction of a dollar might make its way to Simon Tolkien). A map genuinely drawn by Thorin is not gonna have that on it, so I'm pretty happy with artistic accuracy over branding. See, I never read LOTR as a kid, I read Foundation and Dune. So when RoP came out and I saw how bad it was... I bought the books from a non-Amazon store (because screw anyone having anything to do with the creation of this trash show) and started reading them. So what's left of Christopher's stake of the Tolkien Estate has gotten its HarperCollins money from me. Seeing as I bought individual paperbacks, a red-covered one-volume paperback and a one-volume hardcover of LOTR along with The Hobbit and some of Christopher's books, why NO I don't feel like I'm stealing from anyone.
Yeah Saruman is still in Valinor at this stage, but even if he had travelled to ME during the 2nd age, Gandalf only realises he has been corrupted at the very end of the 3rd age. This dark wiz character has to be someone else, possibly a ringwraith, the mouth of Sauron, etc.
The name 'Gandalf' (Gandálfr in the Völuspa catalog of dwarf names) literally means 'wand-elf' or 'Elf of the wand' in Old Norse, which in the books represents the ancient language of the Dale-men. It was kind of JRRT's retcon to explain why he used all these Norse dwarf names (including Gandalf) in The Hobbit. But the use in TRoP is ham-fisted, because it is made to sound like a 'foreign' word to Nori, which of course it would not be.
Yes he got it from Old Norse, but in Middle-earth it doesn't make sense. His Dwarven name is "Tharkûn" which does mean "staff man", and those Dwarves dealt with the Men of Bree. But the Men of Bree don't have a word "gand"; but their name for him was "Gandalf". Even if they DID... the way this dumb show does halfwit Harfoots wouldn't work: they'd avoid the Dwarves who say "staff man"; the Dwarves don't share their secret language with anyone; and the halfwit Harfoots would avoid the Men of Bree too. Thank you for spotting the "Nori wouldn't use a foreign word" part. None of this show makes sense.
The last cool battle we saw of this universe was at the end of Return of the King (2003) 21 years ago... I highly doubt we'll have another one 2 weeks from now. Judging from what I saw so far it's either talk garbage or CGI action garbage.
I’ve been waiting for a season and a half to get a quest. For ghosts and monsters and set pieces. I finally got it…. Sigh… some random thoughts - They’re turning Elrond into the FBI Agents from Die Hard. - Galadriel’s superpower appears to by convincing enemies to stand in a circle and let her do whatever she wants to them. - Where was Tom Bombadil’s hot wife!? - Are they setting Nori up to be hobbit Moses? - Calling it now… Theo is the Witch King
I honestly don't think they're going to give us a 3 episode battle like they said. It'll probably be mostly 2 people speaking painful dialogue in a room like the rest of the show
Who wants a three episodes battle of this sh it anyway? I would rather do the dishes and clean the floor than get a headache watching CGI Don Lemon flipping in the air or woke Tar-Miriel stumbling blind on the battlefield or Karen Galadriel talk some... I mean, you got my point. This show have 0 redeeming quality.
@@burgunbeerd Want to know what's weirder? It's MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING to watch 2 people speaking HONEST REVIEW in a room, even if there's a projection screen, a non-St John's medal police box so what, pre-Smith era, a modern era Dalek and a which is that, Matt Smith era screwdriver in the back (*). Two people sitting in a room doing dialogue is not a problem. It's what the dialogue IS ABOUT and how honest it is, that matters. (*) full disclosure, Doctor Who fan since 1979. And I originally liked the new series. But the cracks started showing in the beginning of Smith's era and more I saw of the new series, the further back I regressed to disliking it (Capaldi being the sole exception). Now Eccleston's run with some of Capaldi is about the most I can handle of the new series.
> where Gandalf maybe takes a bath. > But surely that's not the most interesting thing that happens, is it? > No, it is. ... this is like the third of your videos I've ever had in front of me and odeargods do I need to put your channel on my regular list. You have my subscription.
@@burgunbeerd Thank YOU. I realised I wasn't detecting a strange American accent. But it wasn't until I heard "These are our British characters. Yeah the elves are just bigger wankers" I realised you're very likely on the very same continent as me. Nice one, gentlemen.
I love how the most interesting conversations people have about this nonsense show is what mystery box character is supposedly who in "lore". Like persian Saruman being Saruman.
I wonder, in what ancient time did the barrow wights of Amazon came from? Like in Tolkien, the barrow wights, Frodo and his friends met, where old Numenorean kings (after the fall of Numenor) ... dead and buried and then possessed by evil spirits and reanimated buy the Witch King of Angmar ... That is probably long after the one ring and the nine where made ... Their old weapons though where still in good shape and even a danger to the Nazgûl's ... Not like here rusty hacked old swords ... So, from where did these old "kings" come?
Pretty sure “gand” is an old Icelandic word meaning wand or staff and “alf” just means ELF so Tolkien combined the tow words and had Olorín’s name in Middle Earth be *Gandalf* (I.e. staff-elf) 🤷🏻♀️
The wigs and wardrobe take me out of it more than anything else. It all just looks so cheap- or at least amateurish. Like what’s up with those hairlines? 😳😂
I have watched the first 4 episodes of this season and for me, all four seemed like fillers. I mean, that what I call boring acting, cheesy dialogues that leads no where. Pointless action scene with CGI all over... This is so bad, it's not a TV show as I used to know it. Any single show from the 90's or early 2000's was better than that. Even garbage ones like Cleopatra 2525 (2000) were better written than this. What does it say??
Technically not filler, just a really boring episode in a boring show. Filler is when the show creators need to stall for time until the next part of whatever they're adapting is written. Like when an anime is further ahead than its source manga.
@@Galamoth06 it's more widely used for filler arcs in anime but the terms been used for live action for decades. I'll never forget the clipshows Stargate would have to do every season for budget reasons
@@burgunbeerd Oh god, "Shades of Grey" from Star Trek: Next Gen's second season did that too. I'd rather watch a rerun than a "best-of montage." I hadn't heard the term filler used for live action until recently, so I'm still getting used to it
Aren't lotr books explaining how the eleven rings works. Dumbledore has the ring of fire that he used to turn pine cones into anti wolf hand grenades in the Hobbit. Galadriel has the ring of water that can hide stuff and used it to conceal her golden forest kingdom, and elrond got the ring of air that was the elvin king's signet ring and could help with healing damage from magical weapons. Non of which was used in this show
Did (not)Gandalf take the bath so he isn't Saruman The Stinky?
Not gonna work. Gandalf stays the Grey for a long time. Saruman doesn't become "Many-coloured" for a while yet.
Elrond's company travelled by foot because Payne & McKay had a Jackson Memberberry on their checklist, to have an aerial 360 degree view of a company hiking a New Zealand mountain ridge. (like the Rohan foot race to save Merry and Pippin). There was no way out, it had been nearly 2 minutes since the last member-berry.
I guess his hands were tied :/
it's so idiotically unnecessary. LOTR secrecy and stealth is why they walked out of Rivendell. Aragorn and crew had no choice but to chase after the orcs on foot but when offered horses they took it. There was no reason for these elves to walk all the way on an urgent mission.
Dudes.... I'm fruggin loving this channel. Sub'd for sure.
Temu Hagrid is SPOT ON! 😂😂😂
To be horrifyingly fair, I did my first ever Temu purchase a couple of weeks ago: Lothlorien brooches, a One Ring on a chain, a Gondor crest, a Thorin's Map mousemat and a thin canvas map of Middle-earth.
Is there an IP problem? Well, to be fair, the official stuff has garbage like "Middle-earth Enterprises" or "The Lord Of The Rings™" plastered all over it (and some fraction of a dollar might make its way to Simon Tolkien). A map genuinely drawn by Thorin is not gonna have that on it, so I'm pretty happy with artistic accuracy over branding.
See, I never read LOTR as a kid, I read Foundation and Dune. So when RoP came out and I saw how bad it was... I bought the books from a non-Amazon store (because screw anyone having anything to do with the creation of this trash show) and started reading them. So what's left of Christopher's stake of the Tolkien Estate has gotten its HarperCollins money from me. Seeing as I bought individual paperbacks, a red-covered one-volume paperback and a one-volume hardcover of LOTR along with The Hobbit and some of Christopher's books, why NO I don't feel like I'm stealing from anyone.
"You're a wizard, Gand-Elf."
I thought Galadriel knew Adar and threatened genocide on him last season.
Yeah Saruman is still in Valinor at this stage, but even if he had travelled to ME during the 2nd age, Gandalf only realises he has been corrupted at the very end of the 3rd age.
This dark wiz character has to be someone else, possibly a ringwraith, the mouth of Sauron, etc.
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The name 'Gandalf' (Gandálfr in the Völuspa catalog of dwarf names) literally means 'wand-elf' or 'Elf of the wand' in Old Norse, which in the books represents the ancient language of the Dale-men. It was kind of JRRT's retcon to explain why he used all these Norse dwarf names (including Gandalf) in The Hobbit. But the use in TRoP is ham-fisted, because it is made to sound like a 'foreign' word to Nori, which of course it would not be.
Yes he got it from Old Norse, but in Middle-earth it doesn't make sense. His Dwarven name is "Tharkûn" which does mean "staff man", and those Dwarves dealt with the Men of Bree.
But the Men of Bree don't have a word "gand"; but their name for him was "Gandalf".
Even if they DID... the way this dumb show does halfwit Harfoots wouldn't work: they'd avoid the Dwarves who say "staff man"; the Dwarves don't share their secret language with anyone; and the halfwit Harfoots would avoid the Men of Bree too.
Thank you for spotting the "Nori wouldn't use a foreign word" part.
None of this show makes sense.
Not watching the show, but enjoying your discussion all the same! I hope you do Penguin and Dune!
Same and the only way to get thru sane lol
I can’t imagine any “normie” sits through 4.5 hours of really boring fantasy tv to maybe see a cool battle at the end
The last cool battle we saw of this universe was at the end of Return of the King (2003) 21 years ago...
I highly doubt we'll have another one 2 weeks from now.
Judging from what I saw so far it's either talk garbage or CGI action garbage.
That's every fantasy series ever
I’ve been waiting for a season and a half to get a quest. For ghosts and monsters and set pieces. I finally got it….
Sigh… some random thoughts
- They’re turning Elrond into the FBI Agents from Die Hard.
- Galadriel’s superpower appears to by convincing enemies to stand in a circle and let her do whatever she wants to them.
- Where was Tom Bombadil’s hot wife!?
- Are they setting Nori up to be hobbit Moses?
- Calling it now… Theo is the Witch King
What, the Witch-king is no man either?
I honestly don't think they're going to give us a 3 episode battle like they said. It'll probably be mostly 2 people speaking painful dialogue in a room like the rest of the show
Yeaaaaaah it worries me. But surely the massive reported budget has to go somewhere
Who wants a three episodes battle of this sh it anyway?
I would rather do the dishes and clean the floor than get a headache watching CGI Don Lemon flipping in the air or woke Tar-Miriel stumbling blind on the battlefield or Karen Galadriel talk some...
I mean, you got my point. This show have 0 redeeming quality.
It will be two people speaking about a great battle for two episodes
@@burgunbeerdsame place as Acolytes budget lol
@@burgunbeerd Want to know what's weirder? It's MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING to watch 2 people speaking HONEST REVIEW in a room, even if there's a projection screen, a non-St John's medal police box so what, pre-Smith era, a modern era Dalek and a which is that, Matt Smith era screwdriver in the back (*).
Two people sitting in a room doing dialogue is not a problem. It's what the dialogue IS ABOUT and how honest it is, that matters.
(*) full disclosure, Doctor Who fan since 1979. And I originally liked the new series. But the cracks started showing in the beginning of Smith's era and more I saw of the new series, the further back I regressed to disliking it (Capaldi being the sole exception). Now Eccleston's run with some of Capaldi is about the most I can handle of the new series.
Sorry guys, but RoP Elrond growing a pair and handing RoP Galadriel attitude is the only thing I'm enjoying in this abysmal show.
> where Gandalf maybe takes a bath.
> But surely that's not the most interesting thing that happens, is it?
> No, it is.
... this is like the third of your videos I've ever had in front of me and odeargods do I need to put your channel on my regular list. You have my subscription.
And our axe and bow!
Thanks!
@@burgunbeerd Thank YOU.
I realised I wasn't detecting a strange American accent. But it wasn't until I heard "These are our British characters. Yeah the elves are just bigger wankers" I realised you're very likely on the very same continent as me. Nice one, gentlemen.
I love how the most interesting conversations people have about this nonsense show is what mystery box character is supposedly who in "lore". Like persian Saruman being Saruman.
I wonder, in what ancient time did the barrow wights of Amazon came from? Like in Tolkien, the barrow wights, Frodo and his friends met, where old Numenorean kings (after the fall of Numenor) ... dead and buried and then possessed by evil spirits and reanimated buy the Witch King of Angmar ... That is probably long after the one ring and the nine where made ... Their old weapons though where still in good shape and even a danger to the Nazgûl's ... Not like here rusty hacked old swords ... So, from where did these old "kings" come?
❤marko❤ and shorts always makes it the best episode 🥰
Pretty sure “gand” is an old Icelandic word meaning wand or staff and “alf” just means ELF so Tolkien combined the tow words and had Olorín’s name in Middle Earth be *Gandalf* (I.e. staff-elf) 🤷🏻♀️
Love this show. I don’t listen to the whiners.
This would have worked SO much better if Marko and Dan were in the same bath together like Gandalf.
How did "not Gandalf" know about Sauron???
I'm expecting a normal men reference in every video from now on 😂
The wigs and wardrobe take me out of it more than anything else. It all just looks so cheap- or at least amateurish. Like what’s up with those hairlines? 😳😂
You guys missed the point of this episode. The Ent Wives were finally given agency.
I have watched the first 4 episodes of this season and for me, all four seemed like fillers.
I mean, that what I call boring acting, cheesy dialogues that leads no where. Pointless action scene with CGI all over...
This is so bad, it's not a TV show as I used to know it. Any single show from the 90's or early 2000's was better than that.
Even garbage ones like Cleopatra 2525 (2000) were better written than this. What does it say??
All episodes were fillers...
Technically not filler, just a really boring episode in a boring show. Filler is when the show creators need to stall for time until the next part of whatever they're adapting is written. Like when an anime is further ahead than its source manga.
@@Galamoth06 it's more widely used for filler arcs in anime but the terms been used for live action for decades. I'll never forget the clipshows Stargate would have to do every season for budget reasons
@@burgunbeerd Oh god, "Shades of Grey" from Star Trek: Next Gen's second season did that too. I'd rather watch a rerun than a "best-of montage."
I hadn't heard the term filler used for live action until recently, so I'm still getting used to it
Everything in RoP is filler
Aren't lotr books explaining how the eleven rings works. Dumbledore has the ring of fire that he used to turn pine cones into anti wolf hand grenades in the Hobbit. Galadriel has the ring of water that can hide stuff and used it to conceal her golden forest kingdom, and elrond got the ring of air that was the elvin king's signet ring and could help with healing damage from magical weapons. Non of which was used in this show