How Kunkka’s Ghostship Actually Works

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2023
  • Kunkka's ultimate ability Ghostship has a really interesting mechanic that involves reducing and delaying damage taken. In this video we go over the two buffs it provides, Admiral's Rum and Rum Hangover. We also take a look at an interesting way to make Ghostship invisible for both teams, which is probably a bug.
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  • @spiralingspiral72
    @spiralingspiral72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    It took me a few months as a kid to realize that the noises from the Ghost Ship aren't people cheering, it's literally an entire crew screaming in their last moments.

    • @kayatoastedd
      @kayatoastedd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      took me years

    • @sowab909
      @sowab909 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wilsonborbaneto3003
      @wilsonborbaneto3003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I was today years old when I learned that

    • @boloks124
      @boloks124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Insert depressed mr.incredible meme....

    • @Youmu_Konpaku_
      @Youmu_Konpaku_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep he crashed his crew as a final attempt to fight tidehunter

  • @DeniZonZ
    @DeniZonZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Even if I already knew how this ability works, your videos are always entertaining, keep up the hard work!

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks a bunch! :)

  • @zeko2258
    @zeko2258 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    It is invisible because the ship spawns below the map and rides under it.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Ahh is that really it? That's interesting but I suppose makes sense. Funny how that works if it's true.

    • @zeko2258
      @zeko2258 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zzadrianzzI read somewhere long ago that dota is coded in such a way that some objects are pre-rendered underneath the map to save resources. So when time comes when it needs to appear, they just pop it up onto the map instead of rendering the pixel necessary for that object. Since Kunkka’s Ghost ship animation is spawned at the same plane as the “undermap” when casted from the edge, the animation just lets it cruise the undermap instead of surfacing. When normally, they would pop it off the undermap onto the actual map before letting it cruise.

  • @joeljoseph4965
    @joeljoseph4965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Can you please make a video on how creep aggro actually works or an overall rundown of some basic mechanics of the game like stat bonuses, high ground, aggro, etc

  • @foley4371
    @foley4371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow . I play kunkka a lot and for once i thought there would be nothing in this video that I don't already know but I was wrong... The actual ghost ship . What a find... Keep up the good work

  • @ferryxhidayat
    @ferryxhidayat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the video
    I play a lot of Kunkka, and i got 2 people so far, complained that my ult is "killing" them. Hope they see this video

    • @myonionsmatter7843
      @myonionsmatter7843 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it’s funny, it’s real life concept of not feeling pain if you think about it.

  • @nanio.6772
    @nanio.6772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just discovered your channel, I've been playing since dota 1 and there are a lot of changes that I don't know about.
    well, I can read update logs but I'm lazy so I rely on videos like yours and the actual gameplay. :)

  • @thewayofrise
    @thewayofrise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the information. You really appreciate hangover buff when you play hard support! that reduction damage will save you a lot of time! (Every time I see Ghostship I just run for it xD )

  • @xerxesmontes9828
    @xerxesmontes9828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    So THAT's why ana survived in ti8. . .

    • @doctor_sako
      @doctor_sako 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually not, kunkka was in the enemy team 🤣 he survived coz of the flaming guard (third ember spirit spell)

    • @kayne7380
      @kayne7380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@doctor_sakothe ghost ship was stolen by a rubick on OG

    • @doctor_sako
      @doctor_sako 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kayne7380ah sorry, my bad

    • @user-th2cp8uh8r
      @user-th2cp8uh8r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@doctor_sakojerax was rubick, and stole the ghost ship that's why

    • @bickdig511
      @bickdig511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@doctor_sako jerax rubick stole the ghost ship. without it ana would die , flaming guard is not enough to survive. He cast alot of spell and arcane curse duration is increased

  • @6Unknown_Source9
    @6Unknown_Source9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video as always,
    maybe some Movement Speed info next? something like Turn Speed, Slow Resistance and slow immune

  • @kregitos9
    @kregitos9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Now that was a fail boat"
    This line is confusing, the buff itself is probably the strongest part of the spell, think about it bristleback takes 40% less damage from back this is even more, for the whole team potentially.
    Yes, you take the dmg later, but most fights can be over at that point.

  • @TwistOfTransistor
    @TwistOfTransistor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the coolest ultis on any moba

  • @user-bq1xp1ih9z
    @user-bq1xp1ih9z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really love this format. Im here since ember’s fists video. Although, I think you can’t do much content from this format in long term as a creator, I still love it, I learned so much actually.
    P.s. sry for probably bad grammar

  • @_HaSSaaN_
    @_HaSSaaN_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kunkka is my most successful hero of all time. Thanks for making this video

  • @expertluck566
    @expertluck566 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im a top 20sh kunkka with thousands of games and I didn't know how buffs from multiple ships interact lul

  • @Biit88121
    @Biit88121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorit combo since dota 1 „normal pick“ on sentinel…
    Kunkha+sven.. (the stormhammer into torrent boat…) and then the boat +warcry buff makes em just max movespeed and like 90%physic dmg reduce..

  • @eggmanrulz
    @eggmanrulz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can the damage from the hangover tick be reduced by damage reduction from pipe or crimson?

  • @BigDBrian
    @BigDBrian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's some spots on the map that are way below the rest, maybe you can spawn a ship from them and have it be 'invisible' too

  • @Hiarin
    @Hiarin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just saw Yatoro picking Martyr's plate on Spectre, do you know how that interact with dispersion? is all the damage redirected by martyr's plate get dispersed?

  • @sammyd5098
    @sammyd5098 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The old kunka aghs made using ult really confusing.

  • @eZARZ13
    @eZARZ13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your vids, Gj

  • @patrickj.pilardiaz3849
    @patrickj.pilardiaz3849 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another W from Adrian ;)

  • @m136dalie
    @m136dalie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That last one was kinda cool

  • @farizdanialz
    @farizdanialz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi zzAdrianzz. I play a lot of Necro aghs recently. And i found out the build is quite OP especially late game comeback. I watch the replay and combat log, but still didnt understand how does the Aghs remove the HP so drastically. Can you explain it. (Sorry my english not so good)

  • @jeffz870
    @jeffz870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do ogres multicast next? It has some weird inconsist effects with lens

  • @DominicXThienohazard
    @DominicXThienohazard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok this makes me taking kunkka as a spellcaster no longer a carry.

  • @munafa23
    @munafa23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU SO MUCH HOPE U GRANTED HEAVEN!!!

  • @moomoon974
    @moomoon974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you explain slark's passive for next video?

  • @WesleiMB
    @WesleiMB 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't even knew kunkka ult had a passive

    • @huniverso
      @huniverso 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

    • @huniverso
      @huniverso 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a buff actually

  • @daryl9892
    @daryl9892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the most lowkey op skill rn

  • @zurinarctus6000
    @zurinarctus6000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is why Armlet of Mordigian was OP/Broken for kunkka back then because the damage delay was 50% or more if I recall correctly and while using armlet with right timing make kunkka basically hard to kill early game

  • @vegetablebirdgmail1493
    @vegetablebirdgmail1493 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very GOOD, i didnt even know, no wonder , i tried to kill kunka and I realized i could never kill him, im so confused as what ameks him suddently so tanky

  • @bLu_3
    @bLu_3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    requesting for spirit breaker shard

  • @benjamingeorge8241
    @benjamingeorge8241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know if Valve patched out the invisible Ghost Ship trick or is it still there in the game?

  • @prostomaxym
    @prostomaxym 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damage delay is very similar to how monk's stagger works in wow.

    • @orven_lou
      @orven_lou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe bcos it's the inspiration of the rum hangover buff.

  • @dankvada4588
    @dankvada4588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great stuff as always. i wish you digged into the timings of kunkkas spells as well

  • @toqnxzz
    @toqnxzz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    periodic damage from intoxication of the same type as dealt or magical?

    • @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu
      @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably HP Removal, so typeless and unreduceable

  • @devinsiriwardena7296
    @devinsiriwardena7296 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It went well.

  • @jaapgerritsen84
    @jaapgerritsen84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mayb you can dissect IO in a new video? One of my favorite heroes, hard to play and alot unknown. Can you?

  • @acceleratingthesupernatural
    @acceleratingthesupernatural 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent content my man. I hope you make it in this TH-cam game

  • @varlsenjoyer
    @varlsenjoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow 😮i love it

  • @brandonlow8942
    @brandonlow8942 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been playing for 15 years and never even know how ghost ship works! Good explanation

  • @ayatoshintaro7565
    @ayatoshintaro7565 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they change the rum? I remember the rum gets applied to all nearby ally the moment it gets casted or maybe i remembered it wrong

  • @Pmon21
    @Pmon21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    underated buff: sure it will nerf next patch.
    so it's best to abuse this delay mechanics with mordigan. too op at early

  • @tacogodboomdogg
    @tacogodboomdogg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I forgot if you mentioned if the rum could be purged.

  • @BronzeHead
    @BronzeHead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm like immortal and didn't know how rum worked lol, I thought it was a big flat dmg reduction, not just delaying 40% of dmg, that's crazy, especially the rum hangover not being lethal

  • @DrJimmable
    @DrJimmable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe I'm stupid, but I didn't get the multiple ships part. When the buff from the second ship is applied, does it refresh all memorized damage too?
    For instance, I get the first buff, take 55 pure damage (45 will be dealt later), then I get the buff from the 2nd ship. Will these 45 points be dealt? And if so, will they be dealt after the second buff ends, or when the first one was supposed to end?
    I really hope you understand all that, sorry

    • @JetFiiire
      @JetFiiire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's the second option you said.
      It works just like your average weekend: you're drunk for 10 seconds, so you only feel half the damage done to you. If you get drunk again halfway through, it simply delays the hangover phase by another 10 seconds.
      Then 10 seconds after you stopped drinking your last rum (Dota heroes have very fast metabolisms it seems), you will sober up and suddenly feel every damage you have taken while drunk.
      Moral of the story: stay drunk

    • @N-MT
      @N-MT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tested this, when the buff got refreshed, the damage will still be accumulated, not dealt. Assuming you have the ghost fleet talent(making it possible for the buff to last 20-30 sec), the damage you taken will still be accumulated and got dealt later after the buff ends(10 seconds). Also worth to note the damage dealt by the rum can't get reduced when you got another rum damage reduction buff(for instance when you refresh and cast it again later).

    • @DrJimmable
      @DrJimmable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the explanation, guys. Gotta go store some rum then

  • @ThatLampTho
    @ThatLampTho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After over a decade i find out from this video that the damage after the rum is non-lethal. I always wondered why they don't die 💀

    • @mr.nobody896
      @mr.nobody896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. I thought it only delayed the dmg. Never knew the delayed dmg didn't kill.

  • @prince11338
    @prince11338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ofcourse if you still have a DoT applied besides the non-lethal ghostship, you can still die

  • @user-xj3hc9oz8z
    @user-xj3hc9oz8z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Noob here. How is muerta a good support in this patch?

  • @reiros
    @reiros 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive been playing dota for more than a decade and i don't even know this!

  • @KaworuGG
    @KaworuGG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never seen a single failure on Stream. RTZ bless is real

  • @kf_isher1149
    @kf_isher1149 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    asdf

  • @kelvinong1908
    @kelvinong1908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does wrath king skeletons work? Sometimes i press it but thrs no skeleton coming out😂

    • @okasudewa5050
      @okasudewa5050 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You get 1 skeleton charge for every 2 enemies you kill, so if you don't have the skeleton charge or just killed 1 enemy after you take the skill, the skeleton won't spawn as you have no skeleton charge

    • @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu
      @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think you need a video for that, have you tried reading the tooltip of the ability?

  • @user-hl7ls9mt4e
    @user-hl7ls9mt4e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW I DIDNT KNEW THAT EVEN THO IM IMMORTAL 6K. I thought kunkka ulti deal half the percent of the damage that dealt on enemy on me