Murray Bookchin - Anarchy and Progress (1975)

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  • @mcblahflooper94
    @mcblahflooper94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Glad I googled Murray Bookchin

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Omg someone actually did it!! Is it because you saw a wifi network called google murray bookchin?

  • @Elmirgtr
    @Elmirgtr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    “If we don’t do the impossible, we will wind up with unthinkable” amazing, and applies so much today

    • @MagnumInnominandum
      @MagnumInnominandum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we are not careful, we will say silly things and believe them profound

  • @benjuarez4000
    @benjuarez4000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Damn this is deep. Absolutely blown.

  • @seancampbell9689
    @seancampbell9689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for sharing. His words should live on for generations

  • @thegeneralstrike6747
    @thegeneralstrike6747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So simple. so right!

    • @anarhistul7257
      @anarhistul7257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      capitalism 4 life right?

    • @JoeSims1776
      @JoeSims1776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      cApITliSm 4 lyfe brOhhhhh

  • @lukebarnard11
    @lukebarnard11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Based

  • @inckeeper
    @inckeeper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    PREACH

  • @kiDchemical
    @kiDchemical 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Holy shit this blew my mind

  • @paullefebvre6667
    @paullefebvre6667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    2018 guys wake up.

  • @seancampbell9689
    @seancampbell9689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That’s some creepy music at the start.

  • @AxisFlowers
    @AxisFlowers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intro music is killing me 😂

  • @Nalhek
    @Nalhek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anybody know the name of the peice at the beginning? The one that sounds like the end of the universe?

    • @JohnPurkey1
      @JohnPurkey1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JUNE 2020 - The violent authority and power structure who uses force to hold control must be whittled down piece by piece until the card houses have collapsed.

  • @cece2845
    @cece2845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i wish there was a transcript of this, i want to share it.

  • @donikatod460
    @donikatod460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't we see today the exact manifestation of all of this? And perhaps glimpses of the way forward?

    • @cinemacrayne4933
      @cinemacrayne4933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I believe the social ecological potentialities Bookchin lays out can be further cultivated by society and individuals.
      Projects like Cooperation Jackson and democratic confederalism in Rojava. In a hegelian sense I think we can manifest progress towards ideas like Post-scarcity Anarchism.

  • @donikatod460
    @donikatod460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    40.31
    “To new technologies that will harmonize humanity’s relationship with the natural world. And new psychic and personal relationships, as well as a new integration of free personalities, which would overcome the splits between mind and labor, between conscious and unconscious. And finally, the elimination of all those institutions of hierarchy, and the restoration again of a new animism, a new way of looking at experience … that will restore again that long legacy in the human experience, the I/Thou relationship instead of the I/It relationship.”

  • @StuxNETozor
    @StuxNETozor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haven't fully listen to it yet (gotta move for now, sadly), but I'm curious, what's your favorite book from Bookchin ? Why ? (there's no wrong answer to intimate questions)

    • @ThatCamel104
      @ThatCamel104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All of them, but I am readying Ecology of Freedom right now, and it's quite enthralling.

  • @nuqwestr
    @nuqwestr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bookchin, at the end of his life, fell out with his followers: "In the wake of the lifestyle anarchism fight, Murray was exhausted. In 1996 he was seventy-five years old. The intractable and unwavering anarchist rejection of libertarian municipalism demoralized him, and the attacks by the lifestyle anarchists were personally discouraging. No one seemed to stand up for him, to take his part. He felt alone and misunderstood, a man out of his time, even a relic from another era." theanarchistlibrary.org/library/janet-biehl-bookchin-breaks-with-anarchism.html

    • @FreeRadicalX
      @FreeRadicalX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More like an old man got bullied by a bunch of hypocritical posers. I believe it's unimportant what embarrassment Murray Bookchin suffered at the hands of whoever, whenever. What's important are his ideas, and that they are preserved understood, and further enhanced.

    • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969
      @legalfictionnaturalfact3969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that's not "breaking with anarchism". that's holding fast to anarchism no matter the opposition.

    • @FreeRadicalX
      @FreeRadicalX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Yup, and it always boggles my mind that there are / were people who claim to be "anarchist" who can't see that. Bookchin called them dogmatists and I don't consider that inaccurate or inflammatory.

    • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969
      @legalfictionnaturalfact3969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FreeRadicalX there is a HUGE propaganda campaign against anarchism twisting history and trying to delegitimize its heroes. i've made it my personal mission to strike flint wherever a conversation might be had so that we can snowball this shit.

    • @MagnumInnominandum
      @MagnumInnominandum ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, He outlived his time that never came or could ever come. How could one not end up tired and disillusioned at least he was not complete delusional.

  • @AhmedBouzid
    @AhmedBouzid ปีที่แล้ว

    30:52

  • @paifu.
    @paifu. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    54:00

  • @RichardFalkner
    @RichardFalkner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    36:52 = Permaculture

  • @shabanovs
    @shabanovs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    нихуя нипонятно, но оочень интересно

  • @bloodaxe5028
    @bloodaxe5028 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brezhnev succeeded with this one

  • @MagnumInnominandum
    @MagnumInnominandum ปีที่แล้ว

    Post scarcity, and some people say anarchism isn't overly optimistic. 😄 "Pacifically and harmoniously.... eliminated" Today analogical tigers, tomorrow the world? Lol. No never, not actually. New arguments would develop about why the tiger eating your flesh is very bad for the "community". Eliminate power? or even its appearance? With what pray tell? Good intentions.... 🤣🤪🤭😵☠

  • @nuqwestr
    @nuqwestr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hopi would not, perhaps, have left the earth and traveled to the stars. Murray asserts the age old desire for humans to "Get Back To The Garden", a modern Luddite, a true regressive thinker full of nostalgia for a time that only exists in his fantastical imagined truth.

    • @sneakyvictorsneakyvictor7658
      @sneakyvictorsneakyvictor7658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wtf are you even talking about?

    • @hassankhan-jg1dx
      @hassankhan-jg1dx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you clearly didn't watch the video. He literally says the opposite of what you're claiming he said in this comment at 37:25

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hassankhan-jg1dx He speaks in non sequiturs from there on, he self-contradicts, and does look back to a fantasy garden of "humans" that never existed. "Hellenistic", he says, pure nostalgia. We are moving off the planet, and expanding into the universe, regression and contraction is not going to happen.

    • @pr00de
      @pr00de 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So? I'd be fine with not "traveling to the stars" if it meant we weren't facing extinction.

  • @keinotee
    @keinotee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A communist in sheep's clothes..

    • @FritzEschkobar
      @FritzEschkobar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did you listen the speech ?

    • @ThatCamel104
      @ThatCamel104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He quite obviously states he's a communist if you read his work. But you obviously never would, thinking of Lenin and Marx and Stalin when you think of Communism, and not once mentioning Kropotkin, Bookchin, and Bakunin.

    • @jackburton3540
      @jackburton3540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ThatCamel104 Communism is a disgustingly bastardized word, it is meant to be a pretty broad term, yet almost always is only aligned with stalinism by people who have never bothered to read at all about theory.

    • @seancampbell9689
      @seancampbell9689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is he not a libertarian communist , which is essentially anarchist? Who gives a fuck anyway. He’s promoting the idea of anarchism as a remedy to the vast majority of western society’s problems, and he’s right to do so

    • @user-ju6zx3rm8d
      @user-ju6zx3rm8d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seancampbell9689 it's so easy to tear things down, rather than build them up. Get the fuck out of the West, you loser