I think double decker can be very helpful for Bihar. Instead of running antyoday train from Chandigarh to Darbhanga (Bihar) they can use this to increase number of passengers
I think the biggest problem is that all the infrastructural elements (rails, bridges, clearances, loco power, curvature, signals etc.) have evolved under the "stick to absolutely the bare minimum required" mentality. This no doubt resulted in economy at the time of construction, but now, with speed and capacity requirements going up drastically, it is almost impossible to improve things significantly. Essentially, Indian Railways will now have to rebuild a whole new, and completely modern, system from scratch.
Secure tracks and remove slums around them only then it is possible to have fancy looking trains like Europe or Japan. Also, gutkha spitting needs to made a criminal offence
Blue one are also icf coaches but yellow red one are utkrisht coaches made by icf.... It is a slight advance version I think Other yellow coaches are tejas coaches while other red coaches are lhb which are faster and safer
@@pramod_p5 WTF! No it's not possible, they're just improving ICF coaches & changing colour. LHB coaches are made whole different from ICF. May he's talking about those light yellow & brown colour in ICF coaches, i think he's right. It's really idt*ic choice
I don't think coaches are valuable option. but I'm definitely sure, if we'll use this technique in semi high speed trains with sleeper beds(kind of pod, I've seen in japan HSR in YT), it's going to be profitable...
Reason for Bhopal-Indore double decker train failure was long travel time. Volvo buses between these two cities takes 3.30 hr however train used to take almost 5.30 hr. Also train fare was comparatively high. If Railway could run non stop between Bhopal to Indore via Maksi route, still there is chance of revive.
3:02 Indian railways can make sleeper double decker with The anspiration with Russia railway double decker sleeper more number of People can traveller in train.
For Delhi to Jaipur Double Decker, platform edges were remodified of lot of stations. All those efforts and expenses just to run one train. And that one Train is still not that popular among users because of its odd timing and less comfort.
It is actually very popular among users from jaipur who work in ncr because it reaches gurgaon and cantt by 10.15. But between delhi to jaipur most people dont get free from office by 6pm thats why they were unable to travel during that time. I do agree with luggage and comfort issue but except covid time it is mostly a packed train from jaipur to delhi. There is no other dedicated train between jaipur and delhi except this.
We need good design for EMU double decker trains. China's CRRC makes many such trains and even exports them to Europe. Main problem in these trains is lack of luggage storage and height of the roof. When we can run double stack goods train close to wires on DFC, we can atleast increase the height of the roof. We need to run them on high density long haul routes.
in Mumbai, double decker coaches can be used in EMU trains, esp for women's coaches since average height of women is less than of men. also converting one coach to double decker women coach can mean upto 3 single decker coaches are released out of which 2 can be used for general public usage
i guess Ghat section and general speed increase of trains meant single decker were more suitable than double decker. also with more powerfull locos, more single decker coaches could be used in single train
No, bro there are lot of problems with respect to speed, turning etc. It's center of mass is higher from ground, becomes unstable. Better to run more coaches.
in canada there is a train service called GO TRAIN. which is mainly a double decker train for passesngers. but it is spacious and very comfortable. so dont indian railways learn from them and implement that here in india. it would be great for people who travel in train.
GO trains ke fares bhi dekhlo Bhai. Presto card me paisa bhara bhara kar almost pura bank account hi khali hojati hai. Also, they have lot of features like heaters in winter and AC in summer and heaters in GO stations too. But even with high fares they(GO trains) are incurring huge losses. If you want, you just Google the losses being incurred by GO trains.
Majority double decker trains operate in non-electrified tracks including Go train. Hence their coach height is much taller making it more spacious and comfortable
I traveled in mumbai madgaon Ac double decker ...it had many passenger's maybe because Goa is an on demand place specially during vacations .....and I was a single traveler with just a bag....and for me the experience was awesome ....like costly than normal central railway trains like shatabdi or gareebrath or konkan railway trains like CSMT or Konkan kanya or mandovi...but worthy as it didnt get as many technical halts as these other trains usually get. Enjoyed that !!
@@SujalRajput10 honestly if the price goes equal to Rajdhani/Tejas I would prefer double decker over rajdhani ....if it gets higher than Rajdhani /Tejas I would choose rajdhani/Tejas mostly ....but still would use double decker often ... Point is being Indian railways fan, I would pay attention to the variation in journey more than comfort .....and Indian Railways are known for its variations...No new, but atleast keeping the 6 double Deckers tht are already running is totally worthy...
One of the biggest reason all the foot over bridges near platforms are constructed as per normal trains and over head wires the height of which have to be rearranged
You say that it's only marginally higher than the normal coaches. Then how are overhead obstacles an issue? And as for the comfort, it's only a seating config to run in routes where Jan Shatabdi runs. As in day journey. And even in normal Jan Shatabdi coaches, we don't have much space for luggage.
*I think most of problems are not because of being double decker but because of being new concept. If enough improvement happened then we can remove most of the problems listed in the video. We can make them more confortable, reliable, cheaper and profitable but we need to do more experiments and developments.*
pehle double decker train HOWRAH TO DHANBAD se start hui thi jisko railways ne band krdiya ye ek ghatya train thi aur howrah dhanbad route me 260km me sare platform ko re design kiya gaya tha humne dekha tha 2011 me
Ahmedabad-Mumbai Central double decker use to run with fully crowded passengers always, never easy to get reservation, runs at 130 kmph speed, reasonable fare, takes only 6 hrs. to cover 500 kms, I think best train on this route.
Can the double decker coaches be mixed with regular sleeper coaches in a train? For instance, the reserved coaches in long-distance trains could be sleeper (AC & NON-AC) coaches, while the general compartments could be double decker. Is that possible?
भारतीय रेलवे को नए सिरे से डबल डेकर डिब्बों की डिजाइन में परिवर्तन करने का प्रयास करना चाहिए। इस विषय में भारतीय रेलवे को देश के नागरिकों से विचार विमर्श करना चाहिए। निश्चित रूप से इस विषय में भारतीय रेलवे को अच्छे सुझाव प्राप्त होंगे।
Depends on what u understand as world class. Technologically underlying LHB coach is still very outdated. And what I have heard, seating comfort is not very optimum. No tilting technology yet.
I guess this 400 vande Bharat trains can be used for peak season, for which double decker was made, vande Bharat trains satisfies all the problems faced by double decker, like passenger capacity, luggage capacity, platform clearance, comfort, speed every aspect vande Bharat is better than double decker except the manufacturing cost, but vb has very low maintenance cost and same operating cost of shatabdi
I would prefer indian railway for introducing every train with a double decker rake and for any convenient they can increase the height of catinary wire and OHE and the pantograph can easily rise high. And we can see this in Western railway zone where the OHE is high of double decker container freight
Double Decker Train will be very profitable and good For Indian Railway it should try it n take innovative Ideas, New Technique on regular basis in Future.... 😘
India mai train ko khatam karne k jarurat h khas kar k metropolitan city's main vaha texi bus travelers badhao train bas state too states districts tak hi pahuchaye itna h hona chaie or profitable banao compny hamesa k liye bhale h mehnga tickets rakho service good quality badhao riksaw ban karo
I travel most of the time in double decker which is Mumbai- Madgaon, i don't feel uncomfortable at all, the fare is also reasonable compared to other trains .
In trains ka best use Intercity Trains me ho sakta hai kyuki ye dibbe bahut jada lambi distance ke liye nahi hoti aur intercity trains bahut jada doori ki nahi hoti aur intercity trains me bheed bhi bahut hoti hai kyuki vo har City ke major stations pe rukti hai isliye mostly aise log travel karte hai jo daily updown karte hai train se
I disagree. Most of the problems u mentioned are designing issues which are already resolved in other countries.Look at DD designs of US n Canada. They are not congested at all.
If load bearing od dbl deckker trains is an issue for tracks and axel, then how come we are going ahead with a decicated freight corridor with 2 tier container wagons running at high speeds ? They'll be much heavier than passenger rakes. Request to know. Tks.
i totally disagree with your thoughts. I traveled many times from Lucknow to Delhi with double-decker which was totally comfortable. Don't just assume things and start throwing over others.
Indian railways itna paisa lagati h coaches manufacturing me ...usme se thoda sa aur kharcha krke better looks ya colours de skte h...why are they making in yellow white useless...take inspirations from other countries...how aesthetic there coaches look ...just look at russian railways...there coaches are too simple but colours are pleasing.
Refurbish this coutches and run this in Kolkata-Agartala rout via BANGLADESH. because there is no Electric line in Bangladesh , hight will not be a problem.
I think double decker can be very helpful for Bihar. Instead of running antyoday train from Chandigarh to Darbhanga (Bihar) they can use this to increase number of passengers
They should focus on increasing the frequency, it will help a lot more then increasing capacity
Pehle train ko chori hone se bachao
Sorry to hurt you
Bro... Luggage
Right 👍
Ac hoga to koi chadega Nehi..+ space Problem ... non AC hoga to dhul khate hue ground floor wale jao ge.
After a long time finally this video justify the name of the channel...😂
U r right speaking
lol yes
How?
@@siddhantrs4545 how bro?
@@knowledgejunction1643 how?
Double decker are good enough for shorter routes.
Within 350 km
Intercity trainsshould be equipped with them as tyey mostly have daily commuters
I think the biggest problem is that all the infrastructural elements (rails, bridges, clearances, loco power, curvature, signals etc.) have evolved under the "stick to absolutely the bare minimum required" mentality. This no doubt resulted in economy at the time of construction, but now, with speed and capacity requirements going up drastically, it is almost impossible to improve things significantly. Essentially, Indian Railways will now have to rebuild a whole new, and completely modern, system from scratch.
Difference between india's most luxurious train vs europe and suggestions
Secure tracks and remove slums around them only then it is possible to have fancy looking trains like Europe or Japan.
Also, gutkha spitting needs to made a criminal offence
@@KanishQQuotes lmao cant imagine india being so modern and technically advanced like the west
#ASKPT why they are changing coach color from blue to yellow or red??
It's not colour bro, the coaches are being changed from ICF to LHB.
Because they love jaundice and blood in stool
Blue one are also icf coaches but yellow red one are utkrisht coaches made by icf.... It is a slight advance version I think
Other yellow coaches are tejas coaches while other red coaches are lhb which are faster and safer
@@pramod_p5 WTF! No it's not possible, they're just improving ICF coaches & changing colour. LHB coaches are made whole different from ICF. May he's talking about those light yellow & brown colour in ICF coaches, i think he's right. It's really idt*ic choice
@@AbhishekKumar-or3xv No, he is right changing from ICF to LBH
I don't think coaches are valuable option. but I'm definitely sure, if we'll use this technique in semi high speed trains with sleeper beds(kind of pod, I've seen in japan HSR in YT), it's going to be profitable...
Reason for Bhopal-Indore double decker train failure was long travel time.
Volvo buses between these two cities takes 3.30 hr however train used to take almost 5.30 hr.
Also train fare was comparatively high.
If Railway could run non stop between Bhopal to Indore via Maksi route, still there is chance of revive.
3:02 Indian railways can make sleeper double decker with
The anspiration with Russia railway double decker sleeper more number of People can traveller in train.
For Delhi to Jaipur Double Decker, platform edges were remodified of lot of stations. All those efforts and expenses just to run one train. And that one Train is still not that popular among users because of its odd timing and less comfort.
It is actually very popular among users from jaipur who work in ncr because it reaches gurgaon and cantt by 10.15. But between delhi to jaipur most people dont get free from office by 6pm thats why they were unable to travel during that time. I do agree with luggage and comfort issue but except covid time it is mostly a packed train from jaipur to delhi. There is no other dedicated train between jaipur and delhi except this.
2 are in Mumbai - Western Railway. The infamous "Flying Ranee" & "Valsad Express"
Valsad is passenger, not express train. It is long distance local train
We need good design for EMU double decker trains. China's CRRC makes many such trains and even exports them to Europe. Main problem in these trains is lack of luggage storage and height of the roof. When we can run double stack goods train close to wires on DFC, we can atleast increase the height of the roof. We need to run them on high density long haul routes.
in Mumbai, double decker coaches can be used in EMU trains, esp for women's coaches since average height of women is less than of men. also converting one coach to double decker women coach can mean upto 3 single decker coaches are released out of which 2 can be used for general public usage
11009-11010 Sinhgad Express ko Double Decker se single decker kyon convert kar diyi? Kindly explain.
i guess Ghat section and general speed increase of trains meant single decker were more suitable than double decker. also with more powerfull locos, more single decker coaches could be used in single train
Very first double decker coaches were attached to Sinhagad express and Deccan queen between Mumbai n pune
I am always in favour of double decker trains.
No, bro there are lot of problems with respect to speed, turning etc. It's center of mass is higher from ground, becomes unstable. Better to run more coaches.
@@pramod_p5 Wrong Info bro!!
@@pramod_p5 TGV inoui and ouigo are double decker and run at 300 km/h...
@@bismayparida2115 they Track quality is good may be
but still LTT Madgaon Double Deckar always goes fully crowded even we can not see a single seat empty
This video made the channel a True *PowerTrain*. 🙌🙌🙌🙌😂🤣😂
By the way...
Hat'soff for your efforts.....
Please Indian railway made sleeper version
in canada there is a train service called GO TRAIN. which is mainly a double decker train for passesngers. but it is spacious and very comfortable. so dont indian railways learn from them and implement that here in india. it would be great for people who travel in train.
GO trains ke fares bhi dekhlo Bhai. Presto card me paisa bhara bhara kar almost pura bank account hi khali hojati hai. Also, they have lot of features like heaters in winter and AC in summer and heaters in GO stations too. But even with high fares they(GO trains) are incurring huge losses. If you want, you just Google the losses being incurred by GO trains.
Canada ka track width kya hai
Islye government freight corridor banraha
Majority double decker trains operate in non-electrified tracks including Go train. Hence their coach height is much taller making it more spacious and comfortable
GoTrains sleeper chalati hai kya? jaha tak mujhe pata hai GoTrains is for suburban service.. not long distance sleeper
I traveled in mumbai madgaon Ac double decker ...it had many passenger's maybe because Goa is an on demand place specially during vacations .....and I was a single traveler with just a bag....and for me the experience was awesome ....like costly than normal central railway trains like shatabdi or gareebrath or konkan railway trains like CSMT or Konkan kanya or mandovi...but worthy as it didnt get as many technical halts as these other trains usually get. Enjoyed that !!
would you sit, if same system was implemented in High speed rail?
(Keep in mind that cost would be high)
@@SujalRajput10 honestly if the price goes equal to Rajdhani/Tejas I would prefer double decker over rajdhani ....if it gets higher than Rajdhani /Tejas I would choose rajdhani/Tejas mostly ....but still would use double decker often ...
Point is being Indian railways fan, I would pay attention to the variation in journey more than comfort .....and Indian Railways are known for its variations...No new, but atleast keeping the 6 double Deckers tht are already running is totally worthy...
One of the biggest reason all the foot over bridges near platforms are constructed as per normal trains and over head wires the height of which have to be rearranged
You say that it's only marginally higher than the normal coaches. Then how are overhead obstacles an issue? And as for the comfort, it's only a seating config to run in routes where Jan Shatabdi runs. As in day journey. And even in normal Jan Shatabdi coaches, we don't have much space for luggage.
I laughed hard when he said passenger comfort!
#askpt sir anylysis on coconut industry of india please🙏
I don't even knew that double decker train existed !!
I traveled from Chennai to Bangalore. Yes as it is mentioned in video, it was a bit uncomfortable.
@@blackrockorange Whats the Price?
Double decker trains are made at RCF. My father work at RCF.
*I think most of problems are not because of being double decker but because of being new concept. If enough improvement happened then we can remove most of the problems listed in the video. We can make them more confortable, reliable, cheaper and profitable but we need to do more experiments and developments.*
I saw news that double decker train is coming in Bihar
pehle double decker train HOWRAH TO DHANBAD se start hui thi jisko railways ne band krdiya ye ek ghatya train thi aur howrah dhanbad route me 260km me sare platform ko re design kiya gaya tha humne dekha tha 2011 me
Ahmedabad-Mumbai Central double decker use to run with fully crowded passengers always, never easy to get reservation, runs at 130 kmph speed, reasonable fare, takes only 6 hrs. to cover 500 kms, I think best train on this route.
Tejas Vande Bharat Shatabdhi laughing in corner 😂😂
Can the double decker coaches be mixed with regular sleeper coaches in a train? For instance, the reserved coaches in long-distance trains could be sleeper (AC & NON-AC) coaches, while the general compartments could be double decker.
Is that possible?
It is but general coaches are unprofitable and mostly run on losses and double decker rakes are more expensive to maintain thus more loass
In a country where people will throw each other off the stairs in a rush crowd I'm glad there's no double decker train yet.
Watching this video on a double decker train 😆
भारतीय रेलवे को नए सिरे से डबल डेकर डिब्बों की डिजाइन में परिवर्तन करने का प्रयास करना चाहिए। इस विषय में भारतीय रेलवे को देश के नागरिकों से विचार विमर्श करना चाहिए। निश्चित रूप से इस विषय में भारतीय रेलवे को अच्छे सुझाव प्राप्त होंगे।
Flying Rani Double Decker Express ❣️💝💞💟
If more people can be sit , why don't they reduce prices ?
Them there will be more demand
Thanks youtube for recommending this awesome video
They are mostly empty because of cost and their departure and arrival times. If they are made cheaper and better timings.
Kya vande Bharat world class train sets hai,like
Yep totally
Depends on what u understand as world class. Technologically underlying LHB coach is still very outdated. And what I have heard, seating comfort is not very optimum. No tilting technology yet.
@@manishksingha1987 Wow! That's some big misinformation you have!!
@@BlackHawkTejas well. Give me some information then
We need vande bharat from mumbai to madgaon
Dfc jaise route hone chahiyw double coach chlane k kiye
Hyperloop is nonsense (for at least next 10 years)... Its10-12 years old concept with a huge challenge...
Our trains run on very low average speed that's why travelling for 700 kms takes more time.
I would like to travel in double decker train once
People here must watch the Sunrise Express from Japan to get more insights on the operations of Double Decker Overnight Sleeper Trains.
If IR makes 2x2 double decker then it will be much better. The seats are too small in this
07:39 issi Karan k wajah se 1st AC double deccar (Howrah to Dhanbad) ko bandh karna pada....😪
I guess this 400 vande Bharat trains can be used for peak season, for which double decker was made, vande Bharat trains satisfies all the problems faced by double decker, like passenger capacity, luggage capacity, platform clearance, comfort, speed every aspect vande Bharat is better than double decker except the manufacturing cost, but vb has very low maintenance cost and same operating cost of shatabdi
#ASPT WHY THERE IS NO MAGLEV TRAIN IN INDIA ?
He answered that previously.
too expensive
and unviable
phele acche se bullet train bann tho jaye
Kis kis jagaon pe hai ye pahle batao, in countries me kitne widespread hai vo bhi batado, tumhe answer vahi mil jaega.
Useless ,only 300-400 people capacity
If IR makes double decker with 2X2 configuration without increasing ticket price it would become profitable, since most the coaches run empty
Best for 500 km n problem is powerful wheels n best for daily 500 km routes day n night
I would prefer indian railway for introducing every train with a double decker rake and for any convenient they can increase the height of catinary wire and OHE and the pantograph can easily rise high. And we can see this in Western railway zone where the OHE is high of double decker container freight
Right
Make double decker train like finland
@@dongralaag_lagli yeah
Double Decker Train will be very profitable and good For Indian Railway it should try it n take innovative Ideas, New Technique on regular basis in Future.... 😘
Maybe they can be used in dfc
In dfc only freight trains will run
Problems facing by our country will not ever solve because it is India
India mai train ko khatam karne k jarurat h khas kar k metropolitan city's main vaha texi bus travelers badhao train bas state too states districts tak hi pahuchaye itna h hona chaie or profitable banao compny hamesa k liye bhale h mehnga tickets rakho service good quality badhao riksaw ban karo
I travel most of the time in double decker which is Mumbai- Madgaon, i don't feel uncomfortable at all, the fare is also reasonable compared to other trains .
TATANAGAR to HOWRAH line me double decker train चलाना चाहिए, स्टील एक्सप्रेस को डबल डेकर में बदल देना चाहिए।
Will railways will mody lhb non ac double decker express for flying ranee express
05:00 What station it is?
Sealdah
russia me double decker sleeper hai uska review karo.
india me aise train kyu nahi ati
Maine to phli baar suna double decker train bhi hoti hai... 🙄🙄🙄☹️
In trains ka best use Intercity Trains me ho sakta hai
kyuki ye dibbe bahut jada lambi distance ke liye nahi hoti aur intercity trains bahut jada doori ki nahi hoti
aur intercity trains me bheed bhi bahut hoti hai kyuki vo har City ke major stations pe rukti hai isliye mostly aise log travel karte hai jo daily updown karte hai train se
After listening to 1st reason I was convinced 😅
I disagree. Most of the problems u mentioned are designing issues which are already resolved in other countries.Look at DD designs of US n Canada. They are not congested at all.
Still it will be better than general coach
Japan have double decket Sleeper cars ...
इंदौर भोपाल जो डबल डेकर ट्रेन चलती थी वर्तमान में वह ट्रेन कहां पर चल रही है
If load bearing od dbl deckker trains is an issue for tracks and axel, then how come we are going ahead with a decicated freight corridor with 2 tier container wagons running at high speeds ? They'll be much heavier than passenger rakes. Request to know. Tks.
Because DFC has special tracks
@@PowerTrain ok
Single coach has double deacker sites think about it
Aur ek train missing - Bangalore to coimbatore
i totally disagree with your thoughts. I traveled many times from Lucknow to Delhi with double-decker which was totally comfortable. Don't just assume things and start throwing over others.
रेल में रिजर्वेशन नहीं मिलता क्या करे आप बता ओजी
If they change the configuration back to 2×2 that may increase the comfort
Why he's showing very old coaches, double decker are state of art coaches, high operations cost is the reason ki utna ni chalte
Bhai vo malgao nahi hai MADGAON hai from madgaon
Normal chair car 108 seats
Double decker 136 seats
Nice information 👌
Good information
and i have seen 2 of em even thou i rarely travel
Bahat achha post
Length could be increased . Is there any problem with that ?
Indian railways itna paisa lagati h coaches manufacturing me ...usme se thoda sa aur kharcha krke better looks ya colours de skte h...why are they making in yellow white useless...take inspirations from other countries...how aesthetic there coaches look ...just look at russian railways...there coaches are too simple but colours are pleasing.
Mumbai Central aur mera ghar sirf 5 minute ki duri pe hai
Who noticed Bidhannagar Road station at 5.00? Hit the like button if you noticed.
Bhopal indore chalti rhi sarkar ne band kar di isse acha indore se jbp chalti full chalti
Where is uday express
Double decker coaches design mein problem hai flaw hai small hai old fashioned hai
I Saw That Scratches On Double Dacker Train Coz Of Platform 🥲
Refurbish this coutches and run this in Kolkata-Agartala rout via BANGLADESH. because there is no Electric line in Bangladesh , hight will not be a problem.
बिलकुल सही जानकारी एकदम बेकार जर्नी है , गलती से भी सफर ना करे २,३घंटे से ज्यादा बहुत भिड होती है तो जाना मुश्किल
US me to hifi he
Double decker train are very uncomfortable
MODERNIZATION ZARURI HAI
Solutions batao problem sob jante hain
Chaircar me 100+ safar karte h
761KMS KA DISTANCE CHHOTI NAHI HAI
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I am first viewer
Wow you got Bharat Ratna, thanks for first viewing this video, the World will remember you forever.
Bhot hi bekar experience h doboul dacker ka ise achha or sasta sleeper best h