These are literally the men who helped build america. I have nothing but full respect for their bravory and sacrofice. It's too bad the people of today don't respect the freedoms they have and are about to lose bc itll be too late by the time they wake up and see what they've lost. It is a, mad, mad world. God bless.🙏
Representative of "people of today" here. Who says we don't respect our freedoms? You? I'm here educating myself on the past, and I see some comment like this. Try being more open minded, we are just as educated and ambitious as your generation so on behalf of "people of today", chill.
@@eggreedgious5194 Respectfully, I'm glad that you are here educating yourself but b4 you " open mouth and insert foot " you might wanna educate yourself alittle more on what is actually going on in this country today. You just gotta peel those blinders back enough to see.👀 maybe try chewing on a red pill, and just " chill ". But if you are a GEN Z ? Then im wasting my time tryin to teach the " feelings police " something bc ain't nobody gonna pull your head outta your ass so you can clean the sh!t outta your ears to hear clearly, well bc of " feelings ". Good day uh, he, she, they, them or whatever your " entitled " preferenced pronoun is.
@@cgrcustoms4791 somehow I knew what your response would be. I am successful and happy and if you're not don't go blaming it on the younger generation. It's not our fault you suck.
@@eggreedgious5194 yes, keep talking bc you are only proving my point. " Feelings police " 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. Until you get that 💩outta your 👂👂 and clearly 👀 then you are the problem. But i know that " you can't handle the truth ". Why? Bc feelings. 🤣😂🤣😂🙄😎
@@eggreedgious5194First off, relax bud. You sound like an interesting and intelligent guy with some dimension. So the statement likely doesn't describe you. But make no mistake. Not sure what your age group is, but the vast majority of people under 25 could give 2 sheets about anyone but a TH-cam hero or maybe someone posting daily on TikTok. That is why the best colleges in the US are full of foreigners. While American boys and girls are sharing dikk pics, the Asian, Indian, and Mid Eastern youth are attending MIT and Harvard preparing to dominate the executive work force. Sorry you get included when those generations are painted with a broad brush. But the statement you are objecting to is valid. Cheeers.
Nice video. Thanks for finding and posting it. It brought back some nice memories of our time at Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. I remember my wife and polishing the Jenny radiator week after week until it really shined (about 11 minutes into the film you can see it).
I remember as a kid the saying “ the mail must go through come rain or shine. 2 cents a letter..come on people are you kidding me.but this is how Charles limbers got his start in aviation
Imagine you’re not a guy with his PPL, but you help to manage a fledgling air museum, with the most beautiful examples of the open cockpit era surrounding you daily, and they all fly!!! Flying “with an empty bucket” is something we try to avoid! Flying is amazing, but flying in an open cockpit let’s you touch the sky.
People were so proud then and had every right to be, each generation previous was just that much tougher than the preceding, I love technology but I miss being hands on. ✌️🇺🇸
Not to disparage the brave accomplishments of the US Airmail pilots of this era but this was not the "world's first" scheduled airmail service as stated in the video, although it was longer lived and more successful than earlier attempts described below. From Wikipedia... The world's first scheduled airmail post service took place in the United Kingdom between the London suburb of Hendon, North London, and the Postmaster General's office in Windsor, Berkshire, on September 9, 1911, as part of the celebrations for King George V's coronation and at the suggestion of Sir Walter Windham, who based his proposal on the successful experiment he had overseen [earlier] in India. The service ran for just under a month, transporting 35 bags of mail in 16 flights; four pilots operated the aircraft including Gustav Hamel, who flew the first service in his Blériot, covering the 21 miles between Hendon and Windsor in just 18 minutes. The service was eventually terminated due to constant and severe delays caused by bad weather conditions. Similar services were intermittently run in other countries before the war, including in Germany, France and Japan, where airmail provision was briefly established in 1912, only to meet with similar practical difficulties.
Interesting that this otherwise interesting program never so much as mentioned Charles Lindbergh, the famed aviator who was later the first to successfully fly solo from New York to Paris, who first thought of planning that NYP trip while he was flying the US mail on night runs from St Louis to Chicago in De Haviland DH4's with Liberty engines, like several of the others who were mentioned. Lindbergh was already an experienced Army Air Corp pilot who also worked as a flight instructor at the time he was flying the US Air Mail. Maybe he was overlooked because he was proficient enough to survive unscathed, but not as recklessly daring as others who promoted themselves by their stunts. He took flying the US Mail very seriously.
@@patrickscott-er1rr True that he took off after most of the others, but was the fist to arrive successfully solo, and even before Byrd's big plane carrying four airmen, which crash landed on the French coast.
The Curtis Jenny had a magnetic compass in it. They knew if they were going N-S-E or W. The biggest obstacle was lack of air fields and crude ways to predict the weather using barometric pressure weather balloons
I would like to see someone like the History Guy devote an episode to Lt Boyle. I have to find out how the rest of his life went. I tried Google but after 15 minutes, gave up. Somebody that startlingly stupid does not deserve to vanish quietly into history. As other commenters noted, he was even photographed wearing his goggles upside down. More than once! (Maybe he had a reason, but probably not) The only interesting thing I found regarding Boyle, was that the famously misprinted "upside down Curtiss Jenny" air mail postage stamp depicted his exact aircraft (hull# 38262) One of those stamps sold at auction for over $1.3 million several years ago.
To this day, I have two framed documents over my desk. One is a picture of a lone tree in the middle of a field with a biplane in it. The text under it is: “Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, completely unforgiving of incapacity, carelessness or neglect.” The other is “High Flight” or “The Aviator’s Prayer”. Look it up. It’ll tell you why we fly.
I had an uncle who paid his way through collage by flying the mail. He bought a aircraft and taught himself to fly, Would get down to read the road signs.
Neat video. I learned a lot. What unparalleled adventures those daring aviators experienced. Mail delivery, usually solo, often under extremely poor weather conditions, and at night, with practically no navigation aids? What brave, adventurous souls they were, indeed.
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These are literally the men who helped build america. I have nothing but full respect for their bravory and sacrofice. It's too bad the people of today don't respect the freedoms they have and are about to lose bc itll be too late by the time they wake up and see what they've lost. It is a, mad, mad world. God bless.🙏
Representative of "people of today" here. Who says we don't respect our freedoms? You? I'm here educating myself on the past, and I see some comment like this. Try being more open minded, we are just as educated and ambitious as your generation so on behalf of "people of today", chill.
@@eggreedgious5194 Respectfully, I'm glad that you are here educating yourself but b4 you " open mouth and insert foot " you might wanna educate yourself alittle more on what is actually going on in this country today. You just gotta peel those blinders back enough to see.👀 maybe try chewing on a red pill, and just " chill ". But if you are a GEN Z ? Then im wasting my time tryin to teach the " feelings police " something bc ain't nobody gonna pull your head outta your ass so you can clean the sh!t outta your ears to hear clearly, well bc of " feelings ". Good day uh, he, she, they, them or whatever your " entitled " preferenced pronoun is.
@@cgrcustoms4791 somehow I knew what your response would be. I am successful and happy and if you're not don't go blaming it on the younger generation. It's not our fault you suck.
@@eggreedgious5194 yes, keep talking bc you are only proving my point. " Feelings police " 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. Until you get that 💩outta your 👂👂 and clearly 👀 then you are the problem. But i know that " you can't handle the truth ". Why? Bc feelings. 🤣😂🤣😂🙄😎
@@eggreedgious5194First off, relax bud. You sound like an interesting and intelligent guy with some dimension. So the statement likely doesn't describe you. But make no mistake. Not sure what your age group is, but the vast majority of people under 25 could give 2 sheets about anyone but a TH-cam hero or maybe someone posting daily on TikTok. That is why the best colleges in the US are full of foreigners. While American boys and girls are sharing dikk pics, the Asian, Indian, and Mid Eastern youth are attending MIT and Harvard preparing to dominate the executive work force. Sorry you get included when those generations are painted with a broad brush. But the statement you are objecting to is valid. Cheeers.
The spitfire flight gave me goosebumps and tears of joy with happy memories thank you , throttle on and keep your wings level
I remember when there was the option to send a letter via airmail (par Avian). There were two postage rates, one for ground the other for air.
Boyle was destined for failure the moment he put his goggles on upside down.
The moment he was politically qualified. Imagine not telling North from South when the sun is out.
@@Mrbfgray - Or you don’t look at your compass.
There is also the option of IFR: I Follow Roads.
Super liked. Can't wait to see you in CANADA! Cheers!
Boy oh boy oh boy Boyle! I guess you could call his attempt a flight of courage. After all he eventually had to face those back in DC!
Nice video. Thanks for finding and posting it. It brought back some nice memories of our time at Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. I remember my wife and polishing the Jenny radiator week after week until it really shined (about 11 minutes into the film you can see it).
I remember as a kid the saying “ the mail must go through come rain or shine. 2 cents a letter..come on people are you kidding me.but this is how Charles limbers got his start in aviation
Was "Lucky Lindy", Charles Lindbergh, any relation to Charles limbers? 🧐🤠
Imagine you’re not a guy with his PPL, but you help to manage a fledgling air museum, with the most beautiful examples of the open cockpit era surrounding you daily, and they all fly!!!
Flying “with an empty bucket” is something we try to avoid!
Flying is amazing, but flying in an open cockpit let’s you touch the sky.
why no mention of the concrete arrows?
People were so proud then and had every right to be, each generation previous was just that much tougher than the preceding, I love technology but I miss being hands on. ✌️🇺🇸
Great video, really enjoyed it.
the ''old rhinebeck aerodome'' listed/shown is a pretty cool day back in time. Lots of ww1 themes and static displays. rhinebeck, ny.
Fantastic presentation! I just subscribed.
Great story i never really knew how the airmail got started. Wonderful history.
Incredible. Thx for sharing
I wonder if Boyle flew that first mail run with his goggles upside down.
There's a great book on the subject "Mavericks of the Sky" - heard the authors speak at Seattle's Museum of Flight several years ago.
Not to disparage the brave accomplishments of the US Airmail pilots of this era but this was not the "world's first" scheduled airmail service as stated in the video, although it was longer lived and more successful than earlier attempts described below.
From Wikipedia...
The world's first scheduled airmail post service took place in the United Kingdom between the London suburb of Hendon, North London, and the Postmaster General's office in Windsor, Berkshire, on September 9, 1911, as part of the celebrations for King George V's coronation and at the suggestion of Sir Walter Windham, who based his proposal on the successful experiment he had overseen [earlier] in India.
The service ran for just under a month, transporting 35 bags of mail in 16 flights; four pilots operated the aircraft including Gustav Hamel, who flew the first service in his Blériot, covering the 21 miles between Hendon and Windsor in just 18 minutes. The service was eventually terminated due to constant and severe delays caused by bad weather conditions. Similar services were intermittently run in other countries before the war, including in Germany, France and Japan, where airmail provision was briefly established in 1912, only to meet with similar practical difficulties.
I still see a robins egg blue one flying around in my area Pierre (Pier) South Dakota, now if it is not an original it is a very very close copy.
Amazing very informative
Interesting that this otherwise interesting program never so much as mentioned Charles Lindbergh, the famed aviator who was later the first to successfully fly solo from New York to Paris, who first thought of planning that NYP trip while he was flying the US mail on night runs from St Louis to Chicago in De Haviland DH4's with Liberty engines, like several of the others who were mentioned. Lindbergh was already an experienced Army Air Corp pilot who also worked as a flight instructor at the time he was flying the US Air Mail. Maybe he was overlooked because he was proficient enough to survive unscathed, but not as recklessly daring as others who promoted themselves by their stunts. He took flying the US Mail very seriously.
Lindbergh was a much later time than the initial pilots on the east coast...FYI
never knew this,,Thanks for the info.
Lindbergh's politics may have led to his exclusion.
@@patrickscott-er1rr True that he took off after most of the others, but was the fist to arrive successfully solo, and even before Byrd's big plane carrying four airmen, which crash landed on the French coast.
The Curtis Jenny had a magnetic compass in it. They knew if they were going N-S-E or W. The biggest obstacle was lack of air fields and crude ways to predict the weather using barometric pressure weather balloons
I would like to see someone like the History Guy devote an episode to Lt Boyle.
I have to find out how the rest of his life went. I tried Google but after 15 minutes, gave up.
Somebody that startlingly stupid does not deserve to vanish quietly into history.
As other commenters noted, he was even photographed wearing his goggles upside down. More than once! (Maybe he had a reason, but probably not)
The only interesting thing I found regarding Boyle, was that the famously misprinted "upside down Curtiss Jenny" air mail postage stamp depicted his exact aircraft (hull# 38262)
One of those stamps sold at auction for over $1.3 million several years ago.
To this day, I have two framed documents over my desk. One is a picture of a lone tree in the middle of a field with a biplane in it. The text under it is:
“Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, completely unforgiving of incapacity, carelessness or neglect.”
The other is “High Flight” or “The Aviator’s Prayer”. Look it up. It’ll tell you why we fly.
Not the first airmail service in the world but in America
Such a sad fact that one of most ground-breaking achievements of early aviation took a heavy toll in lives - due to a bureaucratic psychopath.
Still happening to this day.
I would have thought the most logical thing to do was to combine it with the Pony Express
Awesome story!!
Did they not even have a compass. Imagine not knowing north from south!
What an adventure!
Winged ponies Express, a _"revolution"_ in horsepower
I had an uncle who paid his way through collage by flying the mail. He bought a aircraft and taught himself to fly, Would get down to read the road signs.
How true
Well done!
Everything I do, I have to take it...... there 😎 is it good or bad?
Neat video. I learned a lot.
What unparalleled adventures those daring aviators experienced. Mail delivery, usually solo, often under extremely poor weather conditions, and at night, with practically no navigation aids? What brave, adventurous souls they were, indeed.
by any chance are you related to Ron bell of san diego? a friend of mine in the 70's
...you no longer see or are able to purchase specific Air Msil stamps as we once did in the days of my yout'...regular postage was 4 cents...air mail was 7 cents.. . I KNOW yhis because I along with my 2 brothers had to sort PILES of stamps fir my dad's stamp business
For a non-radio-controlled helicopter, I'd give the blades more coning angle, (Dihedral) this will help the stability.
How about a compass... they were even then.
Pony Express of the sky
The worlds first airmail flight ln England in 1911
I regonised a Reuben Fleet. Not too modest gyi.
(2:45 ) They could have used the help of Karl Childers . th-cam.com/video/AynXoLjYrKc/w-d-xo.html
I flew it in 1980
Air-Mail is Still not as fast as Telegraph!!!
...damn, why didn't they just use Google maps...
savages
I, too, like Wild Bill, loved riding my motorcycle up & down stairways! 🤪 Long Live the Aviators 🙏 🇺🇸
I know what's wrong with it
It ain't got no gass in it
"AAviator" ?? .... really ? ... just say it properly for christ sakes.
Back when men were hard and women were feminine ......
The first official air mail flight was in India not America and in 1911 not 1918. Very badly researched documentary more myth than facts.
I think these early pilots were and have been overrated moving a few letters about !