One Of A Kind Virtual Pinball Machine Build
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- The journey is complete. We started building my Mother a Virtual Pinball Cabinet in March of 2021 as a Christmas Gift, and it turned out better than we could have imagined. Since my Mom is 85 years old, we had to come up with a custom, one of a kind design for her specific needs. In this Special Edition of GYGO (which means longer run time than usual) we show you what we came up with.
A special thanks to Terry Red, Major Frenchy and the whole Virtual Pinball community who fueled our interest for this build. This wouldn't have been possible without you all. To Steve at Zeb's Boards, thanks for making some of the best VP Hardware in the business!
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
1:07 - My Journey into Virtual Pinball
3:01 - Virtual Pinball Explained
6:16 - Virtual Pinball's Awesomeness!
6:36 - Plunger
7:07 - Bumpers, Flippers and Slingshots
9:15 - Nudge
10:13 - Zeb's Digital/Analog Plunger
12:20 - Zeb's High Power Output Board
13:48 - Computer
14:50 - Audio Solution
16:29 - Building the Physical Cabinet
23:05 - Final Wiring Complete
24:50 - Speaker Grill
25:12 - Back of Cabinet
26:50 - Closing
If you have questions please comment below or email me. I will do my best to include answers in upcoming segments under the appropriate topics.
Contact me at: GYGOmail@gmail.com
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ADDITIONAL LINKS:
VP Forums: www.vpforums.org
VP Universe: vpuniverse.com/forums/
Zeb's Boards: zebsboards.ca/public_html/ind...
Terry Red's Channel: / terryred
Major Frenchy's Channel: / majorfrenchy
SYSTEM SPECS:
-AMD RYZEN 5900x
-GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC
-eVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
-G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB DDR4 3600
-SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe
-SEAGATE 2TB HDD
-SEASONIC 850 watt Gold Rated Power Supply
OTHER EQUIPMENT:
-OCULUS DK2
-VIVE
-VIVE PRO
-HP REVERB G2
-Logitech G27 Force Feedback Wheel
-THRUSTMASTER Warthog Flight Stick
-CH Products Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals
-DOF Reality H6 Motion Platform
#GYGO #VirtualPinball #PinballFX3 - เกม
Awesome build and so happy you can share this with your mother!
Thanks pasikeranen, it was a special project for sure and she still plays it daily! We have a blast trying to beat each other's high score, and for almost 87 years old now, my Mom still has some mad skillz :) Appreciate you watching!
Good on you young man! Kudos to Mom she sure did raise you right!!!!
Honor your Mother and Father that it may be well you! Blessings to you all!💕💒
Thank you for the kind words and stopping by the channel. I really appreciate it.
I love that you built this for your mum, I only hope I am playing pinball still at 85. Fantastic virtual pinball machine, love the adjustments.
Thanks for the comment, it was a group effort for sure. I wouldn't have been able to afford it on my own, so big thanks to Darrell and Brenda. I love that my Mom is still active and beyond that... competitive. She has a high score on the "No Good Gofers" table that I've been trying to beat for weeks now and can't seem to catch her. We should all be so lucky at 85!
As someone who managed an arcade and worked on various pinball machines, this is a phenomenal job and labor of love. 👍
Indeed, appreciate the view and the compliment. Hopefully you might get to try it out some day :)
Love it! Great job Darrell and Mark!
Thanks Lisa, Darrell aka "The Master Fabricator" really worked hard on this thing. Turned out great, he is so good at making stuff like this!
Mark and Darrell - This is phenomenal. Can’t wait to see what project you take on next.
Maybe something crazy like a Time Machine or something... just can't find a good DeLorean yet :)
Dude this is awesome! Great work.
Thanks, it turned out awesome and is really fun to play. Mom loves it!
Nice job Mark! I sold you the lockdown bar. Your friend is a talented carpenter and fabricator. I collect pinball machines so I don’t really know too much about virtual Pinball, but it was cool to see it built! Really nice job love the attention to detail.
First off, thanks for selling me the lockdown bar... it was kind of the start of this whole thing. I still love regular pinball but it is hard to beat something that is this close to the real thing and you can change tables at the push of a button. Appreciate you stopping by the channel!
Great run through on your machine
Thank you, it was a passion project for sure. Mom still enjoys it very much! Infact we played some hotseat this past weekend and had some close games where she even beat me a few times. Very happy we decided to build it for her. Thanks for stopping by and watching our content.
Great video and great build.
Thanks Jon, spent a lot of time both on the machine and making the video. Nice to have people appreciate our efforts.
Especially like that you showed the build stages. I knew if the potentiometer thing (or similar usage), but adding the solenoids is really cool.
Appreciate the compliment... if you ever get the chance to try one you should give it a shot. I think you'd like it :)
Pretty cool.
Hi Mark great Job to all your team . Im sure your Mum will have many entertaining evenings as a pinball wizard ,she sounds so cool .Stay Safe and take care all .
Thanks, ya I just recently upgraded the graphics card to my old 3060ti because the latest Indian Jones Table had a little stutter on it. Now it is playing smooth once again. Appreciate you watching and for the comment.
@@GYGOtv "latest Indian Jones Table" , Did I miss one?
@@spacegoogie It's been out for over a year. It's a remake of the Williams Indiana Jones pinball adventure table... Very Fun, one of my favorites!
Amazing pinball build
Thank you so much... It was a labor of love for sure. My Mom is still enjoying the heck out of it! Appreciate you stopping by the channel and leaving a comment.
Amazing! Thanks for your out of the box ideas! And all the links!
Thanks for watching the video Michelle! It was quite a project but turned out fantastic. Mom is still enjoying playing it on a daily basis, and is even kicking my butt at the recent Matchups we have been playing on PFX3. Are you thinking of getting into Virtual Pinball?
@@GYGOtv Yes! I already built a Virtual cabinet for Pinball FX3... I ha finished 4th in the Diamond 1 league of the Matchups last week! LOL XD But it was a one shot deal; it is too much time consuming to try to be in the firsts position of the matchups! LOL! (Aubergine...)
@@michelle-lambert LOL, wow that IS impressive... those were some high scores last week!!! I'm just happy to stay Diamond 1 in the Top 90% I really appreciate you taking the time to watch our little Pinball build and thanks for the comments.
@@GYGOtv A hint for you... Add a pedal (I use a piano pedal) to use "Wizard power" (Letter X). So you can use the wizard power without leaving your hands from the flippers. ;-P
@@michelle-lambert Ahhh great idea! Please don't tell my Mother otherwise we will have to take her machine back into the shop to add that :) Keep an eye out for her on the leaderboards. Her screen name is Jodiegal and there is a photo of her on her profile. If you want to see her in action, you can go here www.twitch.tv/videos/1482031847 I got her on my Twitch channel to show off a little. She already said she wants to redo it because she was nervous and knows she can do better :) LOL did I mention she is 85!!!
Very nice job inspiringly different
Thanks Jeff... It was certainly a labor of love. The good news is, a year later and the Pinball Machine is still going strong (and so is my Mother). We recently have been competing on the new Raiders of the Lost Ark DLC, she had me beat for a few weeks... but I finally got around her score last week. We will see how long it takes her to beat me again. Thank you so much for commenting and watching the video, a lot of work went into it for sure.
Just found your channel bc of VR. I am a pinball collector and I’m also into vpx BUT in VR! You have to check it out as it combines two things you love. Plus is so much more impressive! Vpx vr. You can use this build as the controller and just replace monitors with vr headset. It’s how I do it
You can’t beat the depth vr provides vs that flat effect you get with your current build. GL
Hi delt35, and welcome to the channel. O' Believe me I've played pinball in VR and it IS amazing for sure. This build was for my mother, who is 86 now so she isn't really a VR enthusiast. What I plan to do someday, is build that front mockup piece out and use it for a controller like you recommend. Have you tried Pinball FX VR? If so how does it compare to VPX VR? Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@GYGOtv As an owner of 12 real pinball machines, the physics of these virtual tables is REALLY important. IMO, VPX 10.7 and above (especially the tables being made by the VPW group) come the closest to feeling real. Pinball FX, including the VR version is just not up to task and either is future pinball, regardless of how many physics updates happen to it. For my money, VPX is the only player in town.
The best part is after all that effort your mom is still incredulous and looking at you sideways when you give it to her. My mom would totally yell at me for wasting my time and tell me that she has no need for it and then two weeks later be totally addicted to the thing and playing it all the time.
Yep that's my mom too! Just an update, a year later, she still loves it!
@@GYGOtv It really is the most functional and complete builds I have seen. Do you have a total cost on it? I mean I know it wasn't cheap, aren't just those desk legs like $600?
@@Cyril29a Without the Labor, I'd say about $5000 in parts... another $5000 if you include the labor, for a total of $10,000 everything included.
excellent
Thank you, it was a fun and challenging project. Two years later and it is still running strong at my Mother's Apartment, who is now 87 Years Old btw. :)
My wife loves pinball and buying a traditional machine is soooo expensive. I'm really thinking of building one for her. I want to build a 4k 120hz version.@@GYGOtv
This is a ridiculously well thought out build for your senior mother. Serious niche market if you guys can kick out more of these for sale.
Thanks... It really did come out well. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Out of curiosity, what do you think would be an acceptable price point?
@@GYGOtv hard to say. Not sure what your build cost in materials and time. You'd obviously want to make a slight margin or at least break even when starting. My 9-5 is in the Healthcare and Senior Living industry and this is definitely not in a facility activity room or in a senior apartment. If someone can roll up to this machine in a wheelchair, you may have yourself a neat spot in healthcare. 👍
@@GYGOtv i think most people would pay like $3k to $4k. to cut cost down most people don't need power legs . you have to think high-end full size virtual pinball machine are going for $7k to $9k . when i first was watching your video i was really surprise it did have solenoids in it at best i thought it would have exciters or nothing just speakers .
@@funtyes1970 thanks David, I appreciate the comment. Only the best for my mom! So yeah we tried to do everything that made sense to us. We didn't do any kind of table surround sound because you had to turn off the audio in PinballFX3 to make that work and I felt like you lost too many other little sounds that were included in the game to make the trade-off worthwhile. We've done some preliminary figures and we might be able to put something somewhat like this together for around $5,000 possibly.
@@GYGOtv yes it about right $5k virtual pinball machines not cheap that is for sure .if you did ever build and sell them I'm sure people would pay $5k for it .it really nice pinball machine. you did really good job. i only have a atgames legends pinball machine paid $700 at sam club reason i got this pinball machine over buying a arcade 1up pinball machine cuz atgame pinball machine have OTG mode and can use a gaming computer on ALP and play FX3,VPX,Future Pinball on it , i did some mods on my ALP like surround sound with 8 solenoids 4 exciters and it have and i got a small 7" LCD screen for DMD and i got a bass shaker to . one day I'm going to remove stock 32" screen and buy a 4k gaming 32" monitor for it . right now i have like $4k in it i really don't have the room where i live for a full size pinball cabinet .
That is extremely nice work!
You should patent your design and find a way to have it mass produced.
Well thank you for the compliment, if we keep getting requests, I may look into a Kickstarter or something to try a production run, but honestly we just built it to make my Mother happy. Thanks for watching the video!
Hey, love your build ! so I saw your video and bought the zebsboatd plunger for my dedicated fx3 cab. Ive got most of the buttons working but no but still confused as to how to get the all the buttons and plunger playing nice with fx3 as zebsboars says no joytokey is necessary. I don’t expect you to explain everything here but if you could point me in the direction you went wether it be a button mapping program like joytokey or another way. Thanks
Hi Skip, thanks for the question. I used x360ce to emulate the xbox buttons. Here is a video I found that shows it at the beginning th-cam.com/video/FjS8VOiuk6I/w-d-xo.html. Also, the cool thing with the ZEB stuff is you can actually program the buttons to be specific key presses if you want. It is all in the ZEB documentation and you have to edit the configuration files but it is powerful once you figure it out. I did this for some of the keypresses (Like ESC because that actually pauses and backs out of menus unlike the XBox control that you had to use 2 different buttons for that). Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you so much for talking the time to get back to me. You input has helped me tremendously.
@@skip00067Thank you for taking the time to watch my videos! Glad I could help.
very cool projekt! what kind of monitor you use for the playfield and what electrical legs are these?
Thanks for the view and the compliment. We started with a 32-inch Samsung Q50 TV (which is a 4K QLED), we liked it so much that we wanted a second one and by that time, the newer model Q60 (also 32-inch) was available so we bought that one and used it for the playfield. They are almost the exact same, they even use the same case... but the startup screen is slightly different and the remote on the Q60 has a solar panel (totally irrelevant for this project). I can tell you the Color is amazing and you defiantly need 4k for the clarity on the Pinball Machine. Sometimes it doesn't even look like a TV, looks more like a printed poster or something. You do have to make sure the TV switches to "Game Mode" otherwise we has some lag and stuttering during gameplay. Another really cool feature of these TVs is that they can be set to turn on when they get power, which is what makes it possible to have the single button startup. As for the legs, we went with these overly expensive ones (www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08436BT53/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). The 2 things we had to consider were each leg needed it's own motor instead of the cheaper ones having a single motor that has a bar that turns the second leg (because we cut out the middle part and put the legs closer together). And also needed it to go low enough to sit at so we needed a "3-Stage" unit which can go down as low as 23.5 inches, otherwise the 2-Stage could only go down to 27 inches, which was still a little too high to sit at. I will warn you, this thing can be raised high enough that it would hit the ceiling so you don't want little kids having free access to the controls :) Hope that answers your question and thanks again for watching the video!
What did you use for the powered legs?
All I can find is powered underframes with a fixed width (like desk width, not coffee table)
Hi Alumriel, thanks for watching our stuff. Here is the link to the exact legs we bought ( amzn.to/3vFgDaa ), they are desk width, but with the 2 motors you can modify them to be smaller without compromising the drive mechanism. They are not cheap... LOL nothing on this machine was. But they work very well and are good quality. I'll put all the pieces that we used in the description of the video incase you are interested in more items. Hope that helps.
That is so flipping cool! (See what I did there?) Turned out amazing!
Thanks Susan!!! Yes I see what you did there :)
Genius
Thanks, it was a lot of work, but totally worth it.
Wow this Awesome !! I'd love to buy One ... Are you planning on making more to sell ?
Thanks for the view and the comment! No plans to produce them, it was just a gift for my Mother. Plus, I honestly don't think we could do it for less than about $10,000 by the time all the labor is calculated for something like this. If you know anyone that wants to throw $10k our way... let me know and we will talk :) There are some other options out there that are cheaper, we just went all out on this thing for sure.
@@GYGOtv I can certainly appreciate the thought and time you've put into this very cool Virtual Pinball Machine ! It's an Awesome build ! Fantastic ! I'm sure your Mom will Love It !!
interesting!
Hopefully in a good way? Thanks for the view either way.
Nicr build
Thanks, appreciate you stopping by and viewing the content... Love the handle you have!
@Get Your Game On It's Not only a handle; it's a lifestyle! 🤣🤣
I am getting all my questions ready. I really want to build one for my dad. Growing up we had a 70's pinball machine, I wish I knew the name. But one quick question, the software is only using steam? Is there anything else needed to run the backscreen and scoreboard. Does steam handle that interface
Thanks for the view and comment. Actually the software is PinballFX3, which I purchased through Steam. They are about to launch a new version (just called PinballFX see zenstudios.com/games/pinball-fx/) which will be exclusive to the EPIC Store so might be worth waiting to see what that has. The Pinball software handles the backglass and DMD placement but you have to get a Free Code from Zen first to unlock that feature on Pinball FX3. All you have to do is show them a photo of your setup with the dual screens and they will likely send you the unlock code. Now if you are going to do the Solenoids you will need additional software called DOF and DOF Linx to do that. Go watch those videos I have linked in the description for Terry Red and Major Frenchy and they will explain it in more detail. I will warn you, building a virtual pinball machine with all the bells and whistles is NOT PLUG AND PLAY. It takes quite a bit of work to get all the hardware and software up and running. But once you have it working, it is SO COOL. Hope that helps.
@@GYGOtv thanks very helpful going to follow your design because it's great to be seated or standing but will scale back most of the high end stuff. Going with pc and Logitech speakers and standard keyboard to button emulator. Since my dad has 4 remotes already for just his TV, he will be ok with a few here lol. This will be a learning experience
@@vancemauro2957 You might look at starting with something like a Legends Pinball and then just build a new cabinet around it. Not sure all the details on one, but seems to have a lot of the components for a VPin and they are really cheap compared to what we spent. I don't think it uses a regular PC in it, so you might have to replace that if you want PinballFX3... but heck you were going to do that anyway. (www.samsclub.com/p/legends-pinball-home-arcade-2021/prod25380329 )
@@vancemauro2957 Wow this guy doesn't know anything about virtual pinball software. Most people run pinup popper as the front end and multiple pieces of software to get all the tables that you would have played in real life. Search for some other creators that will give you the better way to do this.
Hello, its free version of PinballFx3? Or steam
It's the Steam Version... but there are 2 free tables that should come with it. Sorcerers Lair and Fish Tales. The tables go on sale quite often for like $1 per table and totally worth it. You can also try "trial versions" of each table for a few minutes to see if you like them. Hope that helps and thanks for watching.
I am getting all my questions ready. I really want to build one for my dad. Growing up we had a 70's pinball machine, I wish I knew the name. But one quick question, the software is only using steam? Is there anything else needed to run the backscreen and scoreboard. Does steam handle that interface
@@vancemauro2957 Thanks for the view and comment. Actually the software is PinballFX3, which I purchased through Steam. They are about to launch a new version (just called PinballFX see zenstudios.com/games/pinball-fx/) which will be exclusive to the EPIC Store so might be worth waiting to see what that has. The Pinball software handles the backglass and DMD placement but you have to get a Free Code from Zen first to unlock that feature on Pinball FX3. All you have to do is show them a photo of your setup with the dual screens and they will likely send you the unlock code. Now if you are going to do the Solenoids you will need additional software called DOF and DOF Linx to do that. Go watch those videos I have linked in the description for Terry Red and Major Frenchy and they will explain it in more detail. I will warn you, building a virtual pinball machine with all the bells and whistles is NOT PLUG AND PLAY. It takes quite a bit of work to get all the hardware and software up and running. But once you have it working, it is SO COOL. Hope that helps.
The real question everyone wants to know is. Can it play pinball Doom?
Of course it does... That is a fun table! Also Skyrim and Fallout as a bonus! Thanks for watching.
i bet people would buy that pinball machine if you ever build them and sell them . i know it wouldn't be cheap cuz video card alone is like $1500 or more you probably could got a 1650 or 1660 video card i seen people running 3 screen setup on virtual pinball on a 1650 super just saying . but anyways nice setup very nice job .
Yep, 1650 might be good. The 1080 runs 99 percent of the stuff good, just some slight lag on the Williams tables once in awhile (like multiball) with all the physics and things those tables do. 4k can be surprisingly demanding even on a pinball game.
@@GYGOtv oh sorry i thought you had a 3060 video card in it .
@@funtyes1970 yeah 3060s were never 1500... is there something wrong with your head? 3080s only just barely went over 2k 1500 would have been an overpriced 3070. Stop trying to pretend like you know what you are talking about.
a 3080ti... lol, that should be sufficient ;)
Well the 3080ti is in my main machine, those specs are just my standard "boilerplate" text. The pinball machine is actually using my old 1080 which runs the 4k screens pretty good. Sorry for any confusion but thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.
@@GYGOtv Ah ok, compliments for the build, a lot of features build in! I build one myself and used a 1060, which wasn't enough for 4k, upgraded to a 3060 and that's perfect now. I like the solenoid switch, the noise is keeping me from building it in, do you need to enable sound effects after disabling the solenoids?
@@lievensnl Thanks for the view and the comment! Ya, the 1080 is probably minimum for 4k. It plays great 99% of the time, but every once in awhile I get the slightest stutter when going multi-ball on the Williams Tables. 3060 should be butter smooth. I keep the sound effects on all the time, they work perfectly complementing the noise of the solenoids as the sounds blend together nicely and the added vibration really makes it all come together. I will warn you, be sure to get "Continuous Duty" solenoids for the 2 flippers because regular solenoids will burn out if you sit there and hold a flipper down continuously like I tend to do when doing specific shots etc. Automotive solenoids are fine for the other 8 as they are just quick hits from the bumpers. Also, depending on how you mount the solenoids will affect how they sound. If you see how we mounted the ones at the bottom of the cabinet basically with the top of the solenoid touching the base of the cabinet... those are the loudest for sure. The ones that are just bracketed behind the TV are not as loud... so theoretically you could adjust how noisy you want your solenoids by experimenting with their mounting style. Hope that helps, and good luck with your build.
Pinball FX so schlecht einfach nur arkade. Viel besser und am besten ist VPX.
So the translation to this I think is "Pinball FX so bad just plain arcade. Much better and best is VPX." From my experience Pinball FX3 has far better graphics and the ability to tilt the table to different views, and you can turn off the "arcade" features on the real tables but I admit it is more "Arcady" than real pinball. My limited experience with the others however is that the graphics (especially the ball) doesn't look nearly as good. But in the end, doesn't really matter which is better or worse. We built this machine for my 85 year old mother, and she plays Pinball FX3, so why would we build it for anything other than that for her?
@@GYGOtv Well you aren't very experience. VPX has a free camera mode where you can position it anywhere. There are more tables on VPX and the graphics on VPX are also better... did you even try it or just decided that PinFX must be better because it is all packaged up and ready to go?
@@thomgizzizI'm glad you think VPX is "better", as I mentioned this was built for my Mother who likes PinballFX3. She already owned a ton of tables so why would I build something that isn't what she likes? And for the record, I tried VPX and some tables where good and some were bad... PinballFX3 is at least consistent in quality. Feel free to like what you want, but don't say people "aren't very experienced" just because they don't like what you do and especially when you have no idea how much experience we have.