My model had the 4050 with 16 GB. The performance was not good, especially on battery life. Everything chugged. Frame time consistency when gaming was bad always. And then I had audio problems - crackling and popping - that weren't fixed with Windows and drivers resets. I returned it and got a 16" MBP. The two positive standouts were the trackpad and keyboard - the best I've ever used and even better than those on my Macbook.
I have it, it's great except the response time ruins it all... Such a shame that they cheaped out so much on the screen for such an expensive device. It'll be sent back tmrw and I'll be in the market for a laptop that doesn't have ghosting when I browse the web or scroll down in vs code.. I guess I'll just get an iPad pro to draw on :(
I think the Surface line is a trendsetter, showing other Windows laptop manufacturers what a premium laptop should look like. I say that with bias because I had two Surface laptops in the past, and they were excellent devices.
I wouldn't really compare this directly to a Macbook Pro. My opinion is that it takes the place of the popular Macbook Pro + IPad combo. As an engineering student I see alot of my peers rocking expensive macbook pros + having an ipad for taking notes + having their gaming desktop/laptop at home. This is essentially all of those in one package. I'm currently still rocking the surfacebook 2 and it's a love hate relationship because they're utterly terrible in terms of repairability/upgradability, but also amazing in terms of flexibility.
the problem is battery life. there's a reason you're using ipad and peers have macbook pros. You'd probably get 6hours at best on this thing. imagine lugging a charger around and always constantly looking for an outlet in school. it's questionable flexibility if you can't finish your work remotely and you're always tied to an outlet
@@delta0307You make a valid point. Though most people I know have 4 hours maximum of class/labs/tutorials with some days being lighter. So 6 hours is honestly plenty, although I do agree it should be better. You can also just get a decent USB-C charger and use the same one for your phone, laptop, and headphones, so I always have that charger with me, and carry nothing else. Only need it if Im sticking around for an evening study session. Where you are right though is that once the manufacturers warranty is out you're pretty much shit out of luck when it comes to the high end surface devices. They're very niche so there aren't alot of parts put there, repair shops don't want to touch them, repair instructions are scarce. My surface is 5 years old, and I can't replace the battery that now has about 60% of its original capacity, my brother has a macbook pro thats the same age, battery died completely, but theres no issue finding replacement parts. So because of that, even though battery life isn't initially a problem, it eventually will be no matter what you do.
@@___Vortex___ I actually hate carrying chargers around. When I go out, I don't wanna be always worried incase I have to stay extended time outside. So both my mac and my xiaomi phone has superb batt life that'll last me a day. I guess depends case to case for each person but trust me, the freedom and the joy of not having to worry far more outweighs the extra flexibility that those 2in1 offers. I came from a thinkpad x1 2in1 and I really had a tough time with it
@@___Vortex___ This is always the issue with this kind of review: Comparing a Microsoft Surface device with another machine purely based on specs. I´m still waiting for Apple to be actually innovative and release a 2-in-1. They won´t, for the exact reason you mentioned: They want people to buy MacBooks AND iPads. That said, Microsoft has missed out on making the surface line up something really great so far. The Surface Studio would´ve been a killer, had it not been so totally crippled.
I agree, Microsoft can do so many good things with their Surface lineup that is competitive in quality against Apple's MacBook lineup. My gripe is, how they always release the laptops when new hardware is around the corner. Intel's Meteorlake chips have been announced to be released in Dec, and AMD at CES '24 (at least H1 '24) will most likely announce new processors as well. And while they aren't ARM, they'll definitely be/can cooler, quieter, and more performant this gen. WHICH is what any Win laptops need to remain competitive with M1/M2 for users who prefer battery life, and quality of life workflow (fans spinning 80% of the time, or a cable necessary to use at least 90% of the hardware's power).
Have you tried one? I used 2 different surface books and now the SLS 1 and wouldn't go back. All sorts of issues with the book connection and using the GPU. Never used the disconnected tablet mode on book, always used it connected. SLS1 does the latter, works great.
Honestly I respect them lower the GPU TDP. Gaming laptops are loud and hot, which in day to day I hate. I'd rather have a laptop be cool and quiet. I really hope Microsoft make a very compelling laptop soon. They have one huge advantage over Apple (who has innumerable of their own advantages), and that is gaming. Apple has their own CPU and GPU manufacturing, own OS, own apps, IOS integration etc. But MSFT has gaming completely cornered. I think if they made this laptop in a similar form factor to a Macbook pro, and also added very cool and quiet gaming internals/ while being a very good work machine I think they could chip away at Apples dominance. They need to use their advantages to better effect: - Gaming - Owning both the hardware and software (maybe creating exclusive tools or features) - Make a cheaper version, that has less gimicks and more practical features (like the MBP). Anyway, I don't think it will be easy, but MSFT are the only ones poised to do it as they own both hardware and software.
if they bring this design (without the bottom part), port, trackpad to the surface laptop 5, it will be perfect and make surface product lines look more consistent.
I think other companies should really look at the surface line. Their tablet laptop is such a portable device that actually has the portable feeling of a tablet other 2 in ones just cant deliver. This laptop as well is just such a great concept and would actually make the touch screen convenient to use unlike the 2 in 1 i have now. Its a shame though they are very pricy for the specs you get
According to Microsoft’s showcase this is faster than the M2 Max in rendering graphics/videos. Also the pen will be included in later packages if it goes like with the original Surface Laptop Studio. I’ve tested the speakers on the original, they are almost as good as on a Macbook Pro, just clearer.
I think it's heavier because it has a 14.4 inch screen that has a 3:2 aspect ratio. Overall I still love the surface laptop studio because I think it has enough performance for what you might need it to do, especially compared to the previous gen.
Microsoft should really take the time and do what Apple does and develop their own real chip, give Intel the boot and make a quiet, cool, gaming laptop... I'd be all in on that... I really like the compatibility of Windows, but I really love Apple devices... Argh, why can't you have both?!?!?!
I’d love to know how stable is the screen when you are really using it in full tablet mode (writing, sketching, etc). Does it flex too much? Other than that, I think that the Samsung 360 PRO has a better value for 2-in-1’s, however I love the fact that the Studio has a compact, centralised keyboard
Hi Matthew. Thanks for the review. Note, you said that "the ports situation is very identical to before." I didn't go through all of the comments to see if someone already apprised you but that statement is not accurate. 🤔😉 The first SLS only had the two Thunderbolt 4 ports. Microsoft added the USB-A and microSD, ports with this iteration. 👍 Hope this helps😉👌
If Arm was the reason Apple is able to give us more in a smaller chassis, then Microsoft could have done that with last gen Qualcomm-based surface laptops, but it didn't. It's not Arm that makes the chip so efficient, it's Apple's design. But AMD is getting close ;)
Intel will never allow Microsoft to put AMD into their flagship models, and they'll pay handsomely to keep it that way. What's a $400M fine from the EU when you make billions on a captive market?
@@LancesArmorStriking that's all well and good while you are making lots of money, especially in data center, to fund both the incentives to OEMs and fines. Intel at the moment is burning cash like crazy, costs are soaring, keeping their margins compressed, while at the same time completely losing the data center to AMD and NVidia.
I wanted the 1st ed of this laptop. Before the perform, it was just to heavy. As a college student, we already have super heavy books to carry around without having a heavy laptop on top of it. So i went with the HP Spectre x360 14
reviewers get 16gb/32gb ram model so evrything is ok. if these are almost double the price of base models. Before 4gb and now 8gb base models are straight up unusable. U can only run 1 app or 1 tab at a time before u lose smoothness.
Ya its very expensive. You're definitely paying a Microsoft tax on this one. A lot of other laptops for that price with good build quality and more performance.
@@MatthewMoniz yes it's really a shame, with that kind of specs and form factor, this thing is perfect for digital artist or even comic artist who usually do 3d modelling for background etc
How can you compare performance of a 14 inch laptop with 16 inch laptops? 16 inch laptops have more space which gives them a better cooling system, hence allowing to use higher watt chips.
If you put this laptops screen in viewing/gaming modes(placing the screen before the trackpad) it won’t thermal throttle and run full 100watts p.s use a game controller or wireless keyboard to enhance perf and gaming. Less throttling.
Yup, too expensive for the regular consumer, which is always how I've felt for MS products. Now with the M3 release, it's even less tempting, both for the MacBook crowd and for Windows users tired of hearing about the significant advantages of using Apple silicon--and I'm using a Dell XPS 9530! Pass, again.
3:03 I completely disagree with you that a haptic touchpad is inherently better than a good traditional glass touchpad. Imo, only Microsoft and Apple have mastered good haptic touchpads. Dell's & Lenovo's are pretty terrible.
Obviously I'm referring to good haptic touchpads. MacBook Pro & MS Surface Laptop Studio being the gold standard. Also, Lenovo's Z series laptops have great haptic touchpads as well.
@MatthewMoniz I wouldn't like the front buttons on the Thinkpad Z series being haptic. And I haven't heard anybody liking the Z series touchpads other than you. Granted, I've tried a lot of laptops (not as many as you have obviously), but Apple really does have great haptic touchpads, and have had them since 2015.
This is just, wow. I think Microsoft understands it is not competing with anyone, just like Apple understands that. Microsoft is delivering an incomparable product. But that price for an IPS display that maxes at 500 nits even for HDR content, AND it doesn't cover 100 percent of the P3 color gamut? That is unforgivable. I feel like anyone who is interested in this is wanting, or in many cases needing, a mini LED display with a greater color gamut. And c'mon, there's no comparison to the MBP 14. Like I said, Microsoft knows it can't deliver a product that good for that price (Microsoft just doesn't make enough of the components inside nor can it buy it at the scale of some other Windows OEMs). BUT, at the same time, and dare i say even if it cost the consumer a bit more, this machine NEEDS a better display to attract the ever so small segment of the market that would be interested in it.
Not only that, but the response time is so bad on the screen that you have very noticeable ghosting on text and images when scrolling on webpages or down a vs code file...
I have a surface book 3, was really disappointed by the studio 2 when announced. Going to have to keep waiting, to upgrade. glad my surface book is still holding up amazingly. Damn you Microsoft
@@PlazDreamweaver eating 4K 10 bit RAW video and most importantly my time matters the most. No lag and fast rendering. I have zero regrets. Worth the investment
I honestly felt like they should have went with an AMD U series processor or even P series Intel for better performance so that more could go to the GPU. It was so close to what Acer accomplished with its Concept Ezel series, but comes up a bit short
You are limiting your choice and missing out on some great devices for the sake of upgradeability. Although that is your perogative, it is not something I would even think about doing.
If the battery dies in 6 months, that's $3k down the drain. And what do you mean by "missing out"? AFAIK, Surface is the ONLY brand in market with a glued-on battery, literally every other laptop in existence has a user-replaceable internal battery.
I'm torn between the Laptop Studio 2 and the Asus ROG X16 Flow. The Asus has better specs for cheaper, but not sure how the drawing on the screen compares, which will be the main use.
one looks and feels like a premium device, the other looks like a cheap 200$ enterprise device. anyway go surface pro not studio if you dont mind the GPU
Key difference is in the stylus. X16 uses MPP 2.0 and SLS2 uses MPP 3.0, which is roughly 8 years ahead of the older version. If your main purpose is "drawing" and not handwriting on screen, that difference is worth the extra price.
I mean there's def the potential for this type of laptops, however trying to be jack of all trades but master of none doesn't really cut it. Having a MBP14 inch + ipad is close if not lower in price...
what high quality laptop models do you recommend for high school children aged 14-17? You think it’s best to go for MacBook Air M2 or Windows laptop (which model)?
The Surface Pro was MS effort to push Windows tablets, and Samsung and others followed the lead, and it was an utter fail, and relative to sales, no longer anything other than a niche sector. Then comes this Laptop Studio and rightly, Windows OEMs were hesitant, and were correct. This is again a product that has very limited demand and def is not the future of creator laptop/tablet hybrids. The obvious elephant in the room is that a tablet should be as light and portable as it can possibly be for mobile tablet usage. This is too heavy. I still think that a thinner and lighter laptop complimented by an Android/iOS tablet would be more professional in efficiency and productivity.
the design could be better if they put another hinge in the back, like surface pros or they could just put one hinge in the back of original surface book. I have a surface book and still love it but the price for entry level of the surface is as much as yoga book 9i which offers another level of productivity by two screen with pen (although I prefer to use my slim pen). Even foldable x1 fold 16 inch is CHEAPER than most of the configuration in the surface. I think comparing with MacBook is not fair as it doesn't have touch and pen that are big issues for productivity and cannot be ignored!
Hi Matthew, what high quality laptop models do you recommend for high school children aged 14-16? You think it’s best to go for MacBook Air M2 or Windows laptop (which model)?
For any sort of gaming, Apple is a no-go. For any program that is older/more niche, Apple is a no-go. How much longevity do you want, so the kids won't have to swap out their laptop once teacher asks them to use a specific program?
I feel like the hang up with these reviews are either comparing it to a Laptop, when this is a 2-in-1, or comparing it to low end 2-in-1s, and I don't mind spending the extra money. I am looking at powerful 2-in-1s, high end 2-in-1s, and this seems more worth it for that, even if I'm not sure there are more powerful 2-in-1 options out there (Because everyone is either trying to review these in comparison to laptops or gaming laptops, or cheaper 2-in-1 devices that don't even have a dedicated GPU and push 16GB of RAM on 1/2TB hard drives). I just found out the other day about HP's $5,000 foldable Specter, and Lenovo's and ASEUS's more high end $2.5kish 2-in-1 laptops, but all those still use onboard graphics (Don't get me wrong, Onboard graphics can get amazing these days, but from looking them up, they ain't it). So I'm just assuming this is the one for now if I'm looking for a quick mobile workstation that can complement my powerful desktop workstation? Basically I want it to be able to run a few games like Planet Zoo and Spider-Man 2, the Sims, as well as Photoshop and illustrator, while also still being able to run stuff like basic UE5 editor or Maya all on the go, without crumbling into dust.
Problem is that basically you are paying about $2k for "Design and features". It's about too much, as you can get a "good laptop" and a premium table for that amount of money. Sure, it's a good product, but it's more on the "luxury side" than on the high spec/features side. On the other hand, if money is not a factor, cool go for the highest spec model, $3600 USD.
Surface laptop studio 2: worse spec and more expensive compare to Macbook Pro (The selling point of this laptop is the use of the display) Why don't you compare it to m2 pro 14"?
You can easily get an M2 Macbook air and a mid spec gaming laptop for the price of this. This laptop is trying way too hard to be an All in One, but then not giving you the performance for an All in One.
Nobody here totally annoyed by the constant hot air blowing at your mouse hand at 6% Processor performance? Getting hot like hell from start? Electrostatic touch issues while connected to power source, which you need because the battery is definitely not lasting ten hours. Got it for 1400€ (49% off) but sending it back immediately....
Hii sir can you please help in between the two laptops which one I should buy: *Asus Zephyrus Gu603 G-16* Intel *13th Gen Core i7-13620H* *16" 1920x1200 165Hz WUXGA* display *16GB RAM* *512GB PCIe 4.0 NVME SSD* Nvidia GeForce *RTX 4060 w/ 8GB DDR6* Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2 Backlit keyboard Windows 11 home Rs. 499,000pkr/- USD: $1790 OR *ASUS ROG Strix G614* 2023 edition Intel *13th Gen Core i7-13650HX* *16" 1920x1200 165Hz WUXGA* display *16GB DDR5 RAM* *512GB PCIe 4.0 NVME SSD* Nvidia GeForce *RTX 4060 w/ 8GB DDR6* Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2 Backlit keyboard Windows 11 home Rs. 469,000pkr/- USD: $1686
Key Considerations: Processor: The Zephyrus G-16 features the i7-13620H, while the Strix G614 has the i7-13650HX. Both are powerful, but the HX variant offers slightly better performance. RAM: The Zephyrus has DDR4 RAM, while the Strix G614 boasts faster DDR5 RAM. Display: Both laptops have the same 165Hz WUXGA display, providing smooth visuals. Storage: Both offer a 512GB PCIe NVME SSD. Graphics: Identical Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPUs with 8GB DDR6. Price: The Zephyrus is priced at $1790, while the Strix G614 costs $1686. Verdict: If you prioritize slightly better CPU performance, go for the ASUS ROG Strix G614. If you prefer faster RAM and are comfortable with the slightly higher price, the Zephyrus GU603 G-16 is a solid choice.
Don't you think that saying such things like "weird design" is very subjective, when you're making a review. I have watched a lots of reviews on Microsoft Surface Studio 2, but there is no reviews which help me to decide between GeForce RTX 4060 and RTX 2000 Ada GPU onboard, is it really good for modeling in Revit and rendering? How critical this difference is? Why configuration with RTX 2000 Ada doesn't have 64 GB RAM, only RTX 4060 has? Are those missing 32 GB of RAM being compensated by RTX 2000 Ada performance? But everyone in their reviews keeps just repeating all the things you can read on Microsoft Store Website by yourself, about unique formfactor, or keep adding some very unnecessary subjective points of view. No, I like the review, but it's already tenth review I'm watching, and they are almost the same. I need more Infos and Details XD XD XD!
I just hope Microsoft continues to make hardware but it’s hard to trust them when they killed off so many of their hardwares. I really want a windows laptop that is Apple like and can game. I am getting older and I’m tired of all the gaming laptops out there with RGB, it’s not sophisticated, even the Razer line, just looks too kiddy for me.
I am the only one who hates haptic touchpad, i just like touchpad because i dont click i just tap with two fingers or one fingers.... Dont like the button press feel on a touchpad
Basically this whole video is about MacBook, if people wanted an apple product they would have just gotten an apple product. Alteast compare it to another windows laptop product. The are more MacBook lines than the surface laptop
Again not worth for me to get this. For 3200 I rather make max out productivity pc for my video editing and music production or I sell my current m1 air and get m1 max
I had the first version. Microsoft is so outdated 1 year old guts at launches Designs not refreshed in 2 years I moved to a Lenovo i9 book dual screen Microsoft is so slow to do things
My surface pro lasted 8 years (daily use). Just bought this one as a replacement. I'm quite happy with their products. 🤷♀️ I hope you find better luck with your future purchases. 🙏
The 13th gen are just about to be superceded so there are some good deals out there. It is hard to pay that for something that will be surpassed by the next-gen i7, which is reportedly a massive upgrade.
What do you guys think of the Surface Laptop Studio 2?
120HZ + Touch Screen
RTX 4060 (80W)
One of the best for gamers & productivity
I guess they pay extra for not showing the stickers
battery life. I want better battery life. I will just hope that the 3 fixes that.
My model had the 4050 with 16 GB. The performance was not good, especially on battery life. Everything chugged. Frame time consistency when gaming was bad always. And then I had audio problems - crackling and popping - that weren't fixed with Windows and drivers resets. I returned it and got a 16" MBP. The two positive standouts were the trackpad and keyboard - the best I've ever used and even better than those on my Macbook.
I have it, it's great except the response time ruins it all... Such a shame that they cheaped out so much on the screen for such an expensive device. It'll be sent back tmrw and I'll be in the market for a laptop that doesn't have ghosting when I browse the web or scroll down in vs code.. I guess I'll just get an iPad pro to draw on :(
I think the Surface line is a trendsetter, showing other Windows laptop manufacturers what a premium laptop should look like. I say that with bias because I had two Surface laptops in the past, and they were excellent devices.
That's the whole reason for the surface line its nothing new lol
I wouldn't really compare this directly to a Macbook Pro. My opinion is that it takes the place of the popular Macbook Pro + IPad combo.
As an engineering student I see alot of my peers rocking expensive macbook pros + having an ipad for taking notes + having their gaming desktop/laptop at home. This is essentially all of those in one package.
I'm currently still rocking the surfacebook 2 and it's a love hate relationship because they're utterly terrible in terms of repairability/upgradability, but also amazing in terms of flexibility.
the problem is battery life. there's a reason you're using ipad and peers have macbook pros. You'd probably get 6hours at best on this thing. imagine lugging a charger around and always constantly looking for an outlet in school. it's questionable flexibility if you can't finish your work remotely and you're always tied to an outlet
@@delta0307You make a valid point. Though most people I know have 4 hours maximum of class/labs/tutorials with some days being lighter. So 6 hours is honestly plenty, although I do agree it should be better.
You can also just get a decent USB-C charger and use the same one for your phone, laptop, and headphones, so I always have that charger with me, and carry nothing else. Only need it if Im sticking around for an evening study session.
Where you are right though is that once the manufacturers warranty is out you're pretty much shit out of luck when it comes to the high end surface devices. They're very niche so there aren't alot of parts put there, repair shops don't want to touch them, repair instructions are scarce. My surface is 5 years old, and I can't replace the battery that now has about 60% of its original capacity, my brother has a macbook pro thats the same age, battery died completely, but theres no issue finding replacement parts. So because of that, even though battery life isn't initially a problem, it eventually will be no matter what you do.
@@___Vortex___ i dont wanna be that guy, but if they're getting 4 hours on a macbook, you might not 2 hours realistically
@@___Vortex___ I actually hate carrying chargers around. When I go out, I don't wanna be always worried incase I have to stay extended time outside. So both my mac and my xiaomi phone has superb batt life that'll last me a day. I guess depends case to case for each person but trust me, the freedom and the joy of not having to worry far more outweighs the extra flexibility that those 2in1 offers. I came from a thinkpad x1 2in1 and I really had a tough time with it
@@___Vortex___ This is always the issue with this kind of review: Comparing a Microsoft Surface device with another machine purely based on specs. I´m still waiting for Apple to be actually innovative and release a 2-in-1. They won´t, for the exact reason you mentioned: They want people to buy MacBooks AND iPads.
That said, Microsoft has missed out on making the surface line up something really great so far. The Surface Studio would´ve been a killer, had it not been so totally crippled.
Not giving an i9 processor and atleast an 4080 for a laptop that's worth 3300$ is a crime...
Even at that price, you can get a 4090 laptop for either refurbished or from hp omen
You should see the response times on the screen... That's the real crime. They screwed us, at least I can return it.
@@Chris-ql1pd asus, that's who
I agree, Microsoft can do so many good things with their Surface lineup that is competitive in quality against Apple's MacBook lineup. My gripe is, how they always release the laptops when new hardware is around the corner. Intel's Meteorlake chips have been announced to be released in Dec, and AMD at CES '24 (at least H1 '24) will most likely announce new processors as well. And while they aren't ARM, they'll definitely be/can cooler, quieter, and more performant this gen. WHICH is what any Win laptops need to remain competitive with M1/M2 for users who prefer battery life, and quality of life workflow (fans spinning 80% of the time, or a cable necessary to use at least 90% of the hardware's power).
So it seems they failed to remain competitive when apple released m3
I love how they innovated with Surface Studio but man I wish Microsoft would revive Surface Book lineup.
Have you tried one? I used 2 different surface books and now the SLS 1 and wouldn't go back. All sorts of issues with the book connection and using the GPU. Never used the disconnected tablet mode on book, always used it connected. SLS1 does the latter, works great.
Surface Book 1 and 2 suck.
Honestly I respect them lower the GPU TDP. Gaming laptops are loud and hot, which in day to day I hate.
I'd rather have a laptop be cool and quiet.
I really hope Microsoft make a very compelling laptop soon. They have one huge advantage over Apple (who has innumerable of their own advantages), and that is gaming.
Apple has their own CPU and GPU manufacturing, own OS, own apps, IOS integration etc. But MSFT has gaming completely cornered.
I think if they made this laptop in a similar form factor to a Macbook pro, and also added very cool and quiet gaming internals/ while being a very good work machine I think they could chip away at Apples dominance.
They need to use their advantages to better effect:
- Gaming
- Owning both the hardware and software (maybe creating exclusive tools or features)
- Make a cheaper version, that has less gimicks and more practical features (like the MBP).
Anyway, I don't think it will be easy, but MSFT are the only ones poised to do it as they own both hardware and software.
if they bring this design (without the bottom part), port, trackpad to the surface laptop 5, it will be perfect and make surface product lines look more consistent.
I think if microsoft made this thinner and maybe 12 to 13 inches, it can be a replacement for the mbp + ipad combo.
Putting the sticker guy out of business
I think other companies should really look at the surface line. Their tablet laptop is such a portable device that actually has the portable feeling of a tablet other 2 in ones just cant deliver. This laptop as well is just such a great concept and would actually make the touch screen convenient to use unlike the 2 in 1 i have now. Its a shame though they are very pricy for the specs you get
I bought this laptop fully optioned for 4K video editing. Works great for me and If you create proxies it will work even better
According to Microsoft’s showcase this is faster than the M2 Max in rendering graphics/videos. Also the pen will be included in later packages if it goes like with the original Surface Laptop Studio. I’ve tested the speakers on the original, they are almost as good as on a Macbook Pro, just clearer.
….you have to put the display into tent mode to get the high performance…
I think it's heavier because it has a 14.4 inch screen that has a 3:2 aspect ratio. Overall I still love the surface laptop studio because I think it has enough performance for what you might need it to do, especially compared to the previous gen.
Microsoft should really take the time and do what Apple does and develop their own real chip, give Intel the boot and make a quiet, cool, gaming laptop... I'd be all in on that... I really like the compatibility of Windows, but I really love Apple devices... Argh, why can't you have both?!?!?!
I’d love to know how stable is the screen when you are really using it in full tablet mode (writing, sketching, etc). Does it flex too much? Other than that, I think that the Samsung 360 PRO has a better value for 2-in-1’s, however I love the fact that the Studio has a compact, centralised keyboard
Hi Matthew. Thanks for the review. Note, you said that "the ports situation is very identical to before." I didn't go through all of the comments to see if someone already apprised you but that statement is not accurate. 🤔😉
The first SLS only had the two Thunderbolt 4 ports.
Microsoft added the USB-A and microSD, ports with this iteration. 👍
Hope this helps😉👌
I leant there's a settings you can turn off on this pc that gives it 30% boost.
Good review and presentation. Agree will your points. Coming from the SLS1 to SLS2 is a noticeable difference. Your content is on point- Subscribed!
If Arm was the reason Apple is able to give us more in a smaller chassis, then Microsoft could have done that with last gen Qualcomm-based surface laptops, but it didn't. It's not Arm that makes the chip so efficient, it's Apple's design. But AMD is getting close ;)
Intel will never allow Microsoft to put AMD into their flagship models, and they'll pay handsomely to keep it that way. What's a $400M fine from the EU when you make billions on a captive market?
@@LancesArmorStriking that's all well and good while you are making lots of money, especially in data center, to fund both the incentives to OEMs and fines. Intel at the moment is burning cash like crazy, costs are soaring, keeping their margins compressed, while at the same time completely losing the data center to AMD and NVidia.
It's all about the drawing experience
It has also been evidenced that the Laptop Studio uses more wattage in tent mode than Laptop mode.
3200 USD????? Bruh
The screen is not detachable. So any risk for getting hot air when holding and watching movies?
I wanted the 1st ed of this laptop. Before the perform, it was just to heavy. As a college student, we already have super heavy books to carry around without having a heavy laptop on top of it. So i went with the HP Spectre x360 14
How was it? ( Don't want to give negative vibes, but heard the hinges of 2in1 convertables in general are easy to wear out).
reviewers get 16gb/32gb ram model so evrything is ok. if these are almost double the price of base models. Before 4gb and now 8gb base models are straight up unusable. U can only run 1 app or 1 tab at a time before u lose smoothness.
I miss the iconic Book series
These glasses really fit you, mate
Thanks! I appreciate it
ROG Flow x13 with AMD and rtx4070 would be much better choice for many.
yeah i think its better choice than Surface laptop studio
Damn, the battery life is pretty good, the only obstacle for this laptop is the price hahaha 😂
Ya its very expensive. You're definitely paying a Microsoft tax on this one. A lot of other laptops for that price with good build quality and more performance.
@@MatthewMoniz yes it's really a shame, with that kind of specs and form factor, this thing is perfect for digital artist or even comic artist who usually do 3d modelling for background etc
3:31 are you saying the larger 16 sounds worse than the 14?
How can you compare performance of a 14 inch laptop with 16 inch laptops? 16 inch laptops have more space which gives them a better cooling system, hence allowing to use higher watt chips.
Thats why the gpu is not performing like "other" 4060 because they are in 16 inch laptops. Same thing applies to CPU performance.
If you put this laptops screen in viewing/gaming modes(placing the screen before the trackpad) it won’t thermal throttle and run full 100watts p.s use a game controller or wireless keyboard to enhance perf and gaming. Less throttling.
Yup, too expensive for the regular consumer, which is always how I've felt for MS products. Now with the M3 release, it's even less tempting, both for the MacBook crowd and for Windows users tired of hearing about the significant advantages of using Apple silicon--and I'm using a Dell XPS 9530! Pass, again.
Yep, took less than a minute to mention Apple. Of course.
3:03 I completely disagree with you that a haptic touchpad is inherently better than a good traditional glass touchpad. Imo, only Microsoft and Apple have mastered good haptic touchpads. Dell's & Lenovo's are pretty terrible.
Obviously I'm referring to good haptic touchpads. MacBook Pro & MS Surface Laptop Studio being the gold standard. Also, Lenovo's Z series laptops have great haptic touchpads as well.
@MatthewMoniz I wouldn't like the front buttons on the Thinkpad Z series being haptic. And I haven't heard anybody liking the Z series touchpads other than you.
Granted, I've tried a lot of laptops (not as many as you have obviously), but Apple really does have great haptic touchpads, and have had them since 2015.
@@cameronbosch1213 agree. Most hate the haptic touchpad. Worse
does it not have ghosting?
This is just, wow. I think Microsoft understands it is not competing with anyone, just like Apple understands that. Microsoft is delivering an incomparable product. But that price for an IPS display that maxes at 500 nits even for HDR content, AND it doesn't cover 100 percent of the P3 color gamut? That is unforgivable. I feel like anyone who is interested in this is wanting, or in many cases needing, a mini LED display with a greater color gamut. And c'mon, there's no comparison to the MBP 14. Like I said, Microsoft knows it can't deliver a product that good for that price (Microsoft just doesn't make enough of the components inside nor can it buy it at the scale of some other Windows OEMs). BUT, at the same time, and dare i say even if it cost the consumer a bit more, this machine NEEDS a better display to attract the ever so small segment of the market that would be interested in it.
Asus is delivering 2.8k oled 90hz 550 nits at like 1100. No shot MS is giving an IPS at 3200, which isnt even 100% p3
Not only that, but the response time is so bad on the screen that you have very noticeable ghosting on text and images when scrolling on webpages or down a vs code file...
I have a surface book 3, was really disappointed by the studio 2 when announced. Going to have to keep waiting, to upgrade. glad my surface book is still holding up amazingly. Damn you Microsoft
I bought this 2 days ago… I think I’m returning it for the macbook book pro with 128gb ram
Why do you need 128gbs of RAM? It's not like the M2 is doing any 3D design, game development, or anything else that needs 128gbs of RAM.
@@PlazDreamweaver eating 4K 10 bit RAW video and most importantly my time matters the most. No lag and fast rendering. I have zero regrets. Worth the investment
This guy.. everytime he brought something up he always respond with "but the macbook does it better"...
my laptop with a 4060 being 1400usd, and with a higher res oled
I don’t see the “” keys, how do developers type those without that key beside the “z” key?
It is also not optimised for note taking.Display is sub par at that price point should include a OLED or Mini LED with thinner bezels.
I honestly felt like they should have went with an AMD U series processor or even P series Intel for better performance so that more could go to the GPU. It was so close to what Acer accomplished with its Concept Ezel series, but comes up a bit short
The Micro SD card slot is hilarious 😂
Laptops which are non upgradeable are already a no in my book
Great, carry your desktop everywhere with you
@@jiajunsun3845 what an ignorant response. You know laptops with SSD, battery, Ram replacements exist right ?
You are limiting your choice and missing out on some great devices for the sake of upgradeability. Although that is your perogative, it is not something I would even think about doing.
If the battery dies in 6 months, that's $3k down the drain. And what do you mean by "missing out"? AFAIK, Surface is the ONLY brand in market with a glued-on battery, literally every other laptop in existence has a user-replaceable internal battery.
I'm torn between the Laptop Studio 2 and the Asus ROG X16 Flow. The Asus has better specs for cheaper, but not sure how the drawing on the screen compares, which will be the main use.
one looks and feels like a premium device, the other looks like a cheap 200$ enterprise device. anyway go surface pro not studio if you dont mind the GPU
@@asdjesdsd Which is which in your opinion? Also the surface pro isn't powerful enough for what I need it for, unfortunately.
Key difference is in the stylus. X16 uses MPP 2.0 and SLS2 uses MPP 3.0, which is roughly 8 years ahead of the older version.
If your main purpose is "drawing" and not handwriting on screen, that difference is worth the extra price.
Like the way that round the corner inside like smartphone
Can you imagine this but with a 100Wh battery and the best mobile AMD CPU+iGPU? One can dream.
I mean there's def the potential for this type of laptops, however trying to be jack of all trades but master of none doesn't really cut it. Having a MBP14 inch + ipad is close if not lower in price...
I know this is not a gaming oriented laptop but there are cheaper options with more powerful gpu’s.
absolutely
How does it work when you program such as in Java or python?
what high quality laptop models do you recommend for high school children aged 14-17? You think it’s best to go for MacBook Air M2 or Windows laptop (which model)?
Asus rog flow x13 / z13
The Surface Pro was MS effort to push Windows tablets, and Samsung and others followed the lead, and it was an utter fail, and relative to sales, no longer anything other than a niche sector. Then comes this Laptop Studio and rightly, Windows OEMs were hesitant, and were correct. This is again a product that has very limited demand and def is not the future of creator laptop/tablet hybrids. The obvious elephant in the room is that a tablet should be as light and portable as it can possibly be for mobile tablet usage. This is too heavy. I still think that a thinner and lighter laptop complimented by an Android/iOS tablet would be more professional in efficiency and productivity.
the design could be better if they put another hinge in the back, like surface pros or they could just put one hinge in the back of original surface book. I have a surface book and still love it but the price for entry level of the surface is as much as yoga book 9i which offers another level of productivity by two screen with pen (although I prefer to use my slim pen). Even foldable x1 fold 16 inch is CHEAPER than most of the configuration in the surface. I think comparing with MacBook is not fair as it doesn't have touch and pen that are big issues for productivity and cannot be ignored!
When best desk setups video will come?
End of this week
Hi Matthew, what high quality laptop models do you recommend for high school children aged 14-16? You think it’s best to go for MacBook Air M2 or Windows laptop (which model)?
For any sort of gaming, Apple is a no-go.
For any program that is older/more niche, Apple is a no-go.
How much longevity do you want, so the kids won't have to swap out their laptop once teacher asks them to use a specific program?
I feel like they had to remove the usb type A for a HDMI port
I feel like the hang up with these reviews are either comparing it to a Laptop, when this is a 2-in-1, or comparing it to low end 2-in-1s, and I don't mind spending the extra money. I am looking at powerful 2-in-1s, high end 2-in-1s, and this seems more worth it for that, even if I'm not sure there are more powerful 2-in-1 options out there (Because everyone is either trying to review these in comparison to laptops or gaming laptops, or cheaper 2-in-1 devices that don't even have a dedicated GPU and push 16GB of RAM on 1/2TB hard drives).
I just found out the other day about HP's $5,000 foldable Specter, and Lenovo's and ASEUS's more high end $2.5kish 2-in-1 laptops, but all those still use onboard graphics (Don't get me wrong, Onboard graphics can get amazing these days, but from looking them up, they ain't it). So I'm just assuming this is the one for now if I'm looking for a quick mobile workstation that can complement my powerful desktop workstation? Basically I want it to be able to run a few games like Planet Zoo and Spider-Man 2, the Sims, as well as Photoshop and illustrator, while also still being able to run stuff like basic UE5 editor or Maya all on the go, without crumbling into dust.
I would call it perfect if it had at least a 4080 option.
This is the Ballmer effect... worst product-value combination..
Problem is that basically you are paying about $2k for "Design and features". It's about too much, as you can get a "good laptop" and a premium table for that amount of money. Sure, it's a good product, but it's more on the "luxury side" than on the high spec/features side. On the other hand, if money is not a factor, cool go for the highest spec model, $3600 USD.
Surface laptop studio 2: worse spec and more expensive compare to Macbook Pro (The selling point of this laptop is the use of the display)
Why don't you compare it to m2 pro 14"?
Microsoft always behind.
You can easily get an M2 Macbook air and a mid spec gaming laptop for the price of this. This laptop is trying way too hard to be an All in One, but then not giving you the performance for an All in One.
Compare this to the ASUS ROG Flow X16
Anyone have the wallpaper he uses in the thumbnail?
Nobody here totally annoyed by the constant hot air blowing at your mouse hand at 6% Processor performance? Getting hot like hell from start? Electrostatic touch issues while connected to power source, which you need because the battery is definitely not lasting ten hours. Got it for 1400€ (49% off) but sending it back immediately....
Hii sir can you please help in between the two laptops which one I should buy:
*Asus Zephyrus Gu603 G-16*
Intel *13th Gen Core i7-13620H*
*16" 1920x1200 165Hz WUXGA* display
*16GB RAM*
*512GB PCIe 4.0 NVME SSD*
Nvidia GeForce *RTX 4060 w/ 8GB DDR6*
Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2
Backlit keyboard
Windows 11 home
Rs. 499,000pkr/-
USD: $1790
OR
*ASUS ROG Strix G614* 2023 edition
Intel *13th Gen Core i7-13650HX*
*16" 1920x1200 165Hz WUXGA* display
*16GB DDR5 RAM*
*512GB PCIe 4.0 NVME SSD*
Nvidia GeForce *RTX 4060 w/ 8GB DDR6*
Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2
Backlit keyboard
Windows 11 home
Rs. 469,000pkr/-
USD: $1686
Key Considerations:
Processor: The Zephyrus G-16 features the i7-13620H, while the Strix G614 has the i7-13650HX. Both are powerful, but the HX variant offers slightly better performance.
RAM: The Zephyrus has DDR4 RAM, while the Strix G614 boasts faster DDR5 RAM.
Display: Both laptops have the same 165Hz WUXGA display, providing smooth visuals.
Storage: Both offer a 512GB PCIe NVME SSD.
Graphics: Identical Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPUs with 8GB DDR6.
Price: The Zephyrus is priced at $1790, while the Strix G614 costs $1686.
Verdict:
If you prioritize slightly better CPU performance, go for the ASUS ROG Strix G614.
If you prefer faster RAM and are comfortable with the slightly higher price, the Zephyrus GU603 G-16 is a solid choice.
Just buy a lenovo slim 5 14”inch with AMd full spec if on windows or a Mac
For that kinda price I mean... there's sooooooooo much better 😮
For the price it should go up to 4070 Mini LED.
Don't you think that saying such things like "weird design" is very subjective, when you're making a review. I have watched a lots of reviews on Microsoft Surface Studio 2, but there is no reviews which help me to decide between GeForce RTX 4060 and RTX 2000 Ada GPU onboard, is it really good for modeling in Revit and rendering? How critical this difference is? Why configuration with RTX 2000 Ada doesn't have 64 GB RAM, only RTX 4060 has? Are those missing 32 GB of RAM being compensated by RTX 2000 Ada performance? But everyone in their reviews keeps just repeating all the things you can read on Microsoft Store Website by yourself, about unique formfactor, or keep adding some very unnecessary subjective points of view. No, I like the review, but it's already tenth review I'm watching, and they are almost the same. I need more Infos and Details XD XD XD!
i think one of the item that most of the comments here agree on is: NOPE, no haptic touchpad PLEASE
LOL what!? Haptic touchpads when done right are wayyy better than a glass touchpad
I just hope Microsoft continues to make hardware but it’s hard to trust them when they killed off so many of their hardwares. I really want a windows laptop that is Apple like and can game. I am getting older and I’m tired of all the gaming laptops out there with RGB, it’s not sophisticated, even the Razer line, just looks too kiddy for me.
Poor battery life and poor screen response.. I ended buying a Laptop 5 with 1000 euro discount during Black Friday, and I'll wait for Laptop Studio 3.
I am the only one who hates haptic touchpad, i just like touchpad because i dont click i just tap with two fingers or one fingers.... Dont like the button press feel on a touchpad
I miss the Surface Book Series
Have you actually tried a surface laptop studio? I.e. do you ever use the sb2 in disconnected tablet mode?
If not, the SLS1 is better everywhere.
I want a matte black.
That would be nice!
@@MatthewMoniz yeah along with some Ryzen 7840 options
Basically this whole video is about MacBook, if people wanted an apple product they would have just gotten an apple product. Alteast compare it to another windows laptop product. The are more MacBook lines than the surface laptop
Its compared to a MacBook because its in the same price range I also show tons of comparisons in the performance section to other laptops.
it's a good laptop if you ignore the price to performance ratio 😏
Again not worth for me to get this. For 3200 I rather make max out productivity pc for my video editing and music production or I sell my current m1 air and get m1 max
They would have waited for Snapdragon x elite
It's too expensive compared to the RoG Flow models.
Hmm for the price that screen seems underwhelming. Rather have Dell XPS 😆
It's 3200... Forget it
There's no way a mosquito is 10 db!!
I had the first version. Microsoft is so outdated
1 year old guts at launches
Designs not refreshed in 2 years
I moved to a Lenovo i9 book dual screen
Microsoft is so slow to do things
Why are they Soldered everything on that thick thing, yucks 😵💫
snapdragon elite x
If you cant beat em, join em. thing looks exactly like a Macbook.
I dont think it looks like a MacBook but its definitely trying to compete with them
Lol what macbooks have you been looking at. The only slight similarity is that it's silver.
Without the Ugly Notch 😂
Everybody who tries to rely on a Microsoft product, has deserved the inevitable disappointment.
My surface pro lasted 8 years (daily use). Just bought this one as a replacement. I'm quite happy with their products. 🤷♀️
I hope you find better luck with your future purchases. 🙏
@@elysegalloway Congrats on being the 0,001%
@owlmostdead9492 wishing you better luck and positive outlooks in your future 🙏
@@elysegallowayYou’ve officially used up all the luck available in your life 😔
Good luck using wide array of applications on Mac lol can't even play skyrim
day 400 of asking you which brand glasses you use
and on Day 400 the answer shall be revealed: Ray-Ban Leonard RX5393 2000 Black (49)
@@MatthewMoniz i just love the comment section
Imagine buying this crap you can buy a MacBook + a gaming laptop / desktop from that money, I wouldn't even buy this for 1000$
I still dont get why i need to buy this with intels shitty processors.
They are so hot and not efficient.
Well you don't have too there's AMD or you can go Apple.
@@MatthewMoniz Unfortunately not in my country. Only intel possible 😕
Man puts 64gb of ram and a current discrete gpu and expects it not to cost over 3,000. Can't tell if this is a legitimate gripe or sarcasm.
it's really the GPU at that price point. You can get other nice high end laptops for $1000 less with better GPUs and even CPUs in a 14" form factor.
The 13th gen are just about to be superceded so there are some good deals out there. It is hard to pay that for something that will be surpassed by the next-gen i7, which is reportedly a massive upgrade.
Those bezels are ugly
If you want to be a wannabe get the MacBook….
WHICH IS BEST LAPTOP FOR GAMING TILL NOW? MSI GT77HX OR ALIENWARE M18 ? OR WHAT
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU :)