Congratulations Bruce on the new boxes in the home Yard. Plus a split. Awesome 👍 on the bright side now you have some extra boxes when you need it. Good health, God bless
The old bee in the butt crack sting. Many have felt this sensation but few have filmed themselves on the receiving end (pun intended). Lol, thanks for sharing and enjoy those new hives!
Good looking colonies. Plastic bee hives, as an ex-contractor I understand the value of the plastics and their uses, even superiority in some aspects. They look like a great product. :) They do seem like they would be great in a urban setting. Ty, for the video Blessed Days...
I have 2 Apimaye hives. I do like them but I have a couple issues with them. The mouse guard prevents me from cleaning out dead bees in winter. And the bees struggled to propalize the vents on the top. Apparently they don’t like the upper ventilation in the cover. I’m in northern MN so tough winters. I may use some spray foam to close up the ventilation in the upper cover.
Hmm. I think it is a good thing and even critical to have some ventilation in the winter. It helps keep the condensation down. And as far as the mouse guards I do agree that it would be nice if they were easily removable. I am not super experienced with them but have liked the one I have had for a couple of years. Though I do believe they are very nice the most important thing in beekeeping is the bees themselves. Strong bees will thrive in most any type of equipment and weak bees will not. I do like the insulation of these hives though. I think it would really help in extremely hot or cold climates. Thanks for checking in and for your comment.
Thanks! It’s my “hobby” beeyard. Couldn’t afford to buy many of these. But it’s fun and they look good. Finally pulled the trigger. I think it’s gonna be fun.
Nice I have 4, I actually like the super hive kit set up, one can separate the bottom for cleaning. with the regular hive set up the brood nest is attached to the bottom it makes it harder to clean out dead bees in the spring.. There is one area with the super hive kit one need to plug the sides of the sliding opener.
Hmm. I was not familiar with the Super Hive kit. Interesting. I do think it would be nice if they could make all the deeps interchangeable instead of it being part of the bottom board. Sounds like maybe they already have!
@@brucesbees Yeah my first 2 were the regular hive set like you bought, but then I decided to go 1 deep and medium, so i looked at my options an saw in their parts section, super hive kits, for the supers I already had, and just bought mediums to add. I strugle to move the deeps full of bees.
Yeah if I had extra queens I would break than triple into 6 nucs minimum....LOTS of bees! Did two swarm cell splits into a 7 frame apimaye (3 each side) this past weekend and wish I had 10 more of those boxes!
Those bee boxes are extremely nice, I like that they are multi-faceted. They dress up your yard very nice. Please post follow up vid on these bees un these boxes. I'd like to see how they are adjusting. Thank you
Do bees that are transferred all over the US to pollinate for farmers have to be contained in certain type of hives! Love your description of what’s on each panel! And that lovely Queen👸🏼❤️! I know nothing really about honey bees…is there a queen in each box? Those are fancy homes they have now;) 🐝Living on Park Avenue❤️
Stung you on your what?? Great looking hives!! Question. I may have a queenless hive. IF I add a brood frame with eggs to the hive for an emergency replacement, do I shake off the bees before adding it or do I add it with the nurse bees still on the frame. Thank you!!
I would shake the bees off. Good plan. It’s insurance. If you have a new queen running around in there already it will strengthen the hive. If not then you provide them the opportunity to survive.
If you are starting from scratch you can order a package and they can build on all new frames. Bees can build on all new frames for sure but there is an advantage of some of the frames are already built out.
Id like to try one of those up here in Iowa but it'll be awhile before I can on my budget. I do absolutely love the bottom boards with the built in pollen traps.
I don’t know. Can’t remember exactly. But it was at least probably 5 or 10 on that colony. But honestly don’t know. I know they had had enough by the time o was done and the feeling was mutual haha.
Great video..just for clarification. One of the two boxes will be making their own queen , as you did not see queen. I do that sometimes, as well. Especially when they start getting frisky. I have a few Apimaya hives also. They look great, new. What kind of gloves do you use? They look like allow for more dexterity. Again thank you for the video.
The black gloves I use are Venom Steel gloves from Medline. They are double layered and work well. Occasional stings through them but rare. Most stings are around the wrist if I don’t have the gloves pulled up good over the cuff of my jacket.
It would be the only complaint I would have. But it hasn’t been too much of a problem yet. But yes I wish the bottom board had a latch on it that you could attach to any of the boxes and that the boxes were all interchangeable with it. But other than that it really is a pretty impressive set up.
Bruce, you may want to change the name of your home apiary to The Apimaye Apiary! lol They do look good sitting there. That last one was so strong you could have split it into 4 and taken 3 mated Queens and had production hives with all 4. It seems like most of the hives around here have really got packed out with bees much earlier this year. Have you experienced the same thing there with the majority or your hives? Great video, keep up the good work!
Yes I definitely could have split it more but didn’t have enough frames handy. Just ordered a pallet from Premier to try out. It has been interesting. Yes many of the bees have exploded but I split them hard early. Maybe too hard in some cases and so many are just staring to get going. Still had some swarming issues early but much of that seems to have calmed down. Tomorrow going to probably start stacking boxes. Privet is going to hit in the next couple of weeks I think. Maybe we will have a decent flow. Hope I have enough equipment. I have spent a ton of money. Need to stop lol.
I put it in a bunch of hives a couple of weeks ago and the bees are the peppermint. Haven’t really had enough experience with it to judge one way or another. Putting peppermints at every level of every hives once a well could get tedious, especially when trying to manage as many as I have. But I am defiantly going to play around with it some.
I'd like to try these at some point but there super expensive, and in Australia the summers are super hot, do you think they are suited for really hot weather ?
Yes it gets very hot here as well. The insulated hives I think are well suited to extreme temperatures but hot and cold. But the most important key to success is strong bees and proper management, regardless of equipment. The truth is that these hives are very expensive and there is no way I could have them on a large scale. Most of my hives are traditional wooden hives. But it is kind of fun to have these and I look forward to seeing how they do. Also, I do believe they are very tough and durable. Have had one for almost two years with almost no sign of wear and tear.
Depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I was actually trying to weeks the large colony a bit to prevent swarming and also got a split out of it. The first coming had to be reversed because the deep needed to be on the bottom. The bees will adjust very quickly. Ideally though it is probably best to leave them alone. Just depends on your goals. There are many opinions out there. I have learned over the years that the bees are incredibly adaptable. Amazing little creatures…
Honestly I will do some brief inspections to assure health of the hives but will probably stay out of these colonies for the most part unless I detect a problem. Hoping they will grow and make a little honey this year.
@@brucesbees iam in Ireland and they are wild expensive £540 but stacked with the all the extra features I use the Abelo poly hives with wooden floors and roofs cheap and cheerful 😀
Absolutely. I could never afford to go large scale with these and they are not set up for pallets. But they are kind of fun for my “hobby” bee yard and definitely look better than my other standard equipment.
I have a bottom board I'm liking. Hoping maybe the price will go down. Noticed Chinese folks are copying them. Not into supporting China more than I already do lol
If shaking or bumping bees is considered being rough then you probably haven’t been around many beekeepers. Or maybe you have only seen beekeepers that have a very limited number of hives and unlimited time to accomplish a goal. Shaking bees like this does a couple of things. It quickly puts them where they need to be while at the same time decreasing the bees on the frame which in turn can decrease the risk of bees getting smashed or rolled between the frames when sticking the frames back down into the hive. Bumping them off the lid accomplishes a similar goal of getting the bees to run down between the frames instead of getting caught between the lid and frames or lid and box. Also shaking bees into the split allowed me to increase the population of the split while decreasing the big hive population further. The idea is to strengthen the split and decrease risk of swarming in the big hive by taking some bees away. Admittedly the bees were agitated and you are probably right that my handling of them played a role in that. It was also a bit chilly, windy and starting to get dark if memory serves me right. So yes I was a little “rough” with the bees. But some of the techniques were actually utilized to protect the bees in a sense while helping me achieve my goals faster. I hope this makes sense. I have never claimed to be the smoothest or best beekeeper on the planet but I am always trying to get better. Though I have a long ways to go I have been blessed to see quite a bit of success with the bees. Having done hundreds if not thousands of inspections I have learned a thing or two. And there is much more to learn. Thanks for watching and thanks for checking in. Hey
Too much expensive PLASTIC! What would hobby beekeepers do if they didn't have all this new plastic stuff to spend their retirement income on? I'm an old retired geezer that would rather recycle and use scraps of pine or whatever and make wooden parts. Call me crazy, but my beekeeping requires very little expense. I don't need to be married to a realtor or a banker and I can still afford to buy a pack of beer once in a while. Cripe sake!
If you watch my channel you will see that almost all my other colonies are in traditional woodenware, but thought this would be fun so finally pulled the trigger. I am a little beyond a “hobby” beekeeper status as far as numbers go but you could call this my “hobby” beeyard. I definitely understand where you are coming from. On a positive note…I imagine these Apimaye hives will last for many years. The one I bought about 2 years ago shoes very little signs of wear and tear.
Ok. Just showing what I am doing. You have watched a lot of my other videos and I really appreciate it. And you know I have a lot of other “irons in the fire.” A vast majority of my hives are the traditional wooden hives. I just like these Apmiayes and wanted to give them a try. And the truth is they look way better for my backyard apiary. But I don’t expect anyone to do what I do. Just trying to share my journey.
@@brucesbees ...Nothing better than wood.Langstroth 10 frame hive or in cooler places (i do bees in Mediteranean sea area) 8 frame hives.Hives made of plastic (any plastic,any hive) just add to the microplastic polution of your product.Wax,honey,propolis,pollen.Wood.Tested material for 100s of years.
@@paganpoet3 you have to do what works best for you, though I don’t buy into the “plastic is bad” theory. The bees seem to thrive in these hives. But, like most beekeepers, almost all of my bees are in wooden hives. I just say to everyone, “you do you.” Best of luck and thanks for checking in.
Yep. Not proactively But I like them. Would never be able to afford a bunch of them but for the hobbyist that juts wants a couple of hives not a bad a option. I think they will last for many years. My original one is nearly 2 years old with very little sign of wear. If you have seen other videos of mine you will see that almost all are traditional wood boxes.
Beautiful!! Perty bees Perty boxes!!! Great job brother! God Bless!!!
Thanks!
Nice content I'm Moroccan beekeeper i like beekeeping all over the world 🌎 👌
Congratulations Bruce on the new boxes in the home Yard. Plus a split. Awesome 👍 on the bright side now you have some extra boxes when you need it. Good health, God bless
Woah! You got some money in Apimaye hive there! Nice!🤤
The old bee in the butt crack sting. Many have felt this sensation but few have filmed themselves on the receiving end (pun intended). Lol, thanks for sharing and enjoy those new hives!
Yes!!! Not a great experience. They work their way underneath the jacket and over the top of the pants. Next thing you know…ouch!!!
Great video Bruce! That is a massive hive for sure. You're a lot calmer when you get stung than I am.
Very nice looking hives! And those GIRLS! Wow!!! 😳😳
Thanks Lisa!
Good looking colonies. Plastic bee hives, as an ex-contractor I understand the value of the plastics and their uses, even superiority in some aspects. They look like a great product. :) They do seem like they would be great in a urban setting. Ty, for the video Blessed Days...
Bruce they in strong power 🐝🐝 I sure you will be adding next few weeks More boxes up lot's of honey 🍯 coming from this power 🐝🐝🐝
Well done. great genetics.
Thanks. Especially that last one haha. Of course that first one I think had just been requeened so they are a little behind.
Wow those boxes are well thought out. Good video!! Looking forward to seeing how the bees do in them.
Thanks. So far so good. The reality is that good bees do well in just about anything. But it is going to be fun to have them in my backyard.
now that's an impressive walk away split
Should do well. Could have pulled another.
Hey longsnapper! I have 4 of the 7 frame nuc and 2 of the 10 frame apimaye. Love em all. Thanks for sharing.
Good stuff Bruce! Those Apimaye products are fantastic for sure. We just used our new 7 frame nuc. Sure makes the yard look nice!
Thanks Dawn. I see you guys are cranking things up as well with spring rolling in.
It seems like we always go from 0 to 150 mph overnight! Good times!
@@dsummerscm for sure!
The backyard is definitely looking good. Plenty of bees to boot.
Yes looks much better! Thanks for checking in!
I have 2 Apimaye hives. I do like them but I have a couple issues with them. The mouse guard prevents me from cleaning out dead bees in winter. And the bees struggled to propalize the vents on the top. Apparently they don’t like the upper ventilation in the cover. I’m in northern MN so tough winters. I may use some spray foam to close up the ventilation in the upper cover.
Hmm. I think it is a good thing and even critical to have some ventilation in the winter. It helps keep the condensation down. And as far as the mouse guards I do agree that it would be nice if they were easily removable. I am not super experienced with them but have liked the one I have had for a couple of years. Though I do believe they are very nice the most important thing in beekeeping is the bees themselves. Strong bees will thrive in most any type of equipment and weak bees will not.
I do like the insulation of these hives though. I think it would really help in extremely hot or cold climates.
Thanks for checking in and for your comment.
Very nice hives! Great video Bruce!
Those hives look good and that colony is very strong.
Man I am totally jealous Bruce, those are some awesome looking hives , great video and good luck with the new hives.
Thanks! It’s my “hobby” beeyard. Couldn’t afford to buy many of these. But it’s fun and they look good. Finally pulled the trigger. I think it’s gonna be fun.
Brand new to beekeeping. Ordered some Apimaye hives because I was looking for insulated hives for my area (8,500ft CO) and Apimaye is one of the few.
I think they will serve you well. You are really going to put the. To the test!
Nice I have 4, I actually like the super hive kit set up, one can separate the bottom for cleaning. with the regular hive set up the brood nest is attached to the bottom it makes it harder to clean out dead bees in the spring.. There is one area with the super hive kit one need to plug the sides of the sliding opener.
Hmm. I was not familiar with the Super Hive kit. Interesting. I do think it would be nice if they could make all the deeps interchangeable instead of it being part of the bottom board. Sounds like maybe they already have!
@@brucesbees Yeah my first 2 were the regular hive set like you bought, but then I decided to go 1 deep and medium, so i looked at my options an saw in their parts section, super hive kits, for the supers I already had, and just bought mediums to add. I strugle to move the deeps full of bees.
Wow, that’s the definition of wall to wall bees. You might need a stepladder to get the honey supers off that one.
Yeah if I had extra queens I would break than triple into 6 nucs minimum....LOTS of bees! Did two swarm cell splits into a 7 frame apimaye (3 each side) this past weekend and wish I had 10 more of those boxes!
Those bee boxes are extremely nice, I like that they are multi-faceted. They dress up your yard very nice. Please post follow up vid on these bees un these boxes. I'd like to see how they are adjusting. Thank you
I love my Apimaye hives.
Do bees that are transferred all over the US to pollinate for farmers have to be contained in certain type of hives!
Love your description of what’s on each panel! And that lovely Queen👸🏼❤️! I know nothing really about honey bees…is there a queen in each box?
Those are fancy homes they have now;) 🐝Living on Park Avenue❤️
Yes they are typically placed in standard equipment that can be palletized for convenience and ease of transport on trucks.
Stung you on your what?? Great looking hives!! Question. I may have a queenless hive. IF I add a brood frame with eggs to the hive for an emergency replacement, do I shake off the bees before adding it or do I add it with the nurse bees still on the frame. Thank you!!
I would shake the bees off. Good plan. It’s insurance. If you have a new queen running around in there already it will strengthen the hive. If not then you provide them the opportunity to survive.
Wow so many bees! Is that unusual for the time of year?
Hope you are off to a good start.
No it’s what I hope to see here in this area though many of my hives are a little weak from early splits.
If I am starting a new hive do I need at least one established frame or can they all be new? TY
If you are starting from scratch you can order a package and they can build on all new frames. Bees can build on all new frames for sure but there is an advantage of some of the frames are already built out.
Id like to try one of those up here in Iowa but it'll be awhile before I can on my budget. I do absolutely love the bottom boards with the built in pollen traps.
How well do the Apimaye hives work when the bees propolise everything and the parts do not slot or slide together so well?
Pretty much the same as any other hive.
Holy cow Bruce, that colony was packed with bees. How many stings did you end up getting? And yes, your backyard looks much nicer now.
I don’t know. Can’t remember exactly. But it was at least probably 5 or 10 on that colony. But honestly don’t know. I know they had had enough by the time o was done and the feeling was mutual haha.
Great video..just for clarification. One of the two boxes will be making their own queen , as you did not see queen. I do that sometimes, as well. Especially when they start getting frisky. I have a few Apimaya hives also. They look great, new.
What kind of gloves do you use? They look like allow for more dexterity.
Again thank you for the video.
The black gloves I use are Venom Steel gloves from Medline. They are double layered and work well. Occasional stings through them but rare. Most stings are around the wrist if I don’t have the gloves pulled up good over the cuff of my jacket.
Do you find the bottom board being attached to the brood box an issue?
It would be the only complaint I would have. But it hasn’t been too much of a problem yet. But yes I wish the bottom board had a latch on it that you could attach to any of the boxes and that the boxes were all interchangeable with it. But other than that it really is a pretty impressive set up.
@@brucesbees I just bought two that I am going to install nucs in soon. Looking forward to seeing how the do.
Good luck!
Bruce, you may want to change the name of your home apiary to The Apimaye Apiary! lol They do look good sitting there. That last one was so strong you could have split it into 4 and taken 3 mated Queens and had production hives with all 4. It seems like most of the hives around here have really got packed out with bees much earlier this year. Have you experienced the same thing there with the majority or your hives? Great video, keep up the good work!
Yes I definitely could have split it more but didn’t have enough frames handy. Just ordered a pallet from Premier to try out. It has been interesting. Yes many of the bees have exploded but I split them hard early. Maybe too hard in some cases and so many are just staring to get going. Still had some swarming issues early but much of that seems to have calmed down. Tomorrow going to probably start stacking boxes. Privet is going to hit in the next couple of weeks I think. Maybe we will have a decent flow. Hope I have enough equipment. I have spent a ton of money. Need to stop lol.
awesome! how's the peppermint test going for all those small hive beetles?
I put it in a bunch of hives a couple of weeks ago and the bees are the peppermint. Haven’t really had enough experience with it to judge one way or another. Putting peppermints at every level of every hives once a well could get tedious, especially when trying to manage as many as I have. But I am defiantly going to play around with it some.
Hello, how do you add a pollen patty to these hives? Thanks
You can probably put in in the feed tray above and put the setting to “candy.” But I have never fed pollen patties in these Apimaye hives before.
@@brucesbees The pollen patty fit perfectly under the feeders directly above the bees on both the 7 and 10 frame hives. No problem.
@@paulahello7435 great! Thanks for the update.
You really know how to piss a girl off!! Thanks Bruce!!!!!
No doubt lol. It was cold, and windy. And I rocked their world. But they have settled in nicely.
I'd like to try these at some point but there super expensive, and in Australia the summers are super hot, do you think they are suited for really hot weather ?
Yes it gets very hot here as well. The insulated hives I think are well suited to extreme temperatures but hot and cold. But the most important key to success is strong bees and proper management, regardless of equipment. The truth is that these hives are very expensive and there is no way I could have them on a large scale. Most of my hives are traditional wooden hives. But it is kind of fun to have these and I look forward to seeing how they do.
Also, I do believe they are very tough and durable. Have had one for almost two years with almost no sign of wear and tear.
Is it common to mix boxes up like that and upset brood pattern
Depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I was actually trying to weeks the large colony a bit to prevent swarming and also got a split out of it. The first coming had to be reversed because the deep needed to be on the bottom. The bees will adjust very quickly. Ideally though it is probably best to leave them alone. Just depends on your goals. There are many opinions out there. I have learned over the years that the bees are incredibly adaptable. Amazing little creatures…
Honestly I will do some brief inspections to assure health of the hives but will probably stay out of these colonies for the most part unless I detect a problem. Hoping they will grow and make a little honey this year.
@@brucesbees ty for reply
Best hives in the world apparently 🤑
I hear ya.
@@brucesbees iam in Ireland and they are wild expensive £540 but stacked with the all the extra features I use the Abelo poly hives with wooden floors and roofs cheap and cheerful 😀
@@tedo844 yes they are expensive.
I love the Apimaye hives, but from a commercial point of view (I want to get there) it's much too expensive :(
Absolutely. I could never afford to go large scale with these and they are not set up for pallets. But they are kind of fun for my “hobby” bee yard and definitely look better than my other standard equipment.
@@brucesbees i totally agree 👍 I mite try a couple myself
Awesome. If you decide to do so let me know what you think. There in a link i the description it you would like to check them out.
I'd like to get five of the Apimaye hives before winter. I need a bank loan first.. 😂
I hear ya. Took me a couple of years to pull the trigger.
I think the reason why it was upside down is because they were from cali..😂
Man those new boxes are snazzy👍🏻
❤❤🐝🐝🐝👍🏻👍🏻🙏🙏
They are a neat looking hive. JC did a video with the langstroth (wooden) conversion kit also🍺🍺
I like how you have used a paver top and bottom👌
Yeah they turned out nice.
I have a bottom board I'm liking. Hoping maybe the price will go down. Noticed Chinese folks are copying them. Not into supporting China more than I already do lol
I looked at them I like them but I thank there pretty pricey for now.
Yes they are pricey for sure.
Do hornet’s get inside the hive
Have never had hornets in my hives that I know of.
I've never seen anyone as rough with their bees! No wonder you got stung.
If shaking or bumping bees is considered being rough then you probably haven’t been around many beekeepers. Or maybe you have only seen beekeepers that have a very limited number of hives and unlimited time to accomplish a goal. Shaking bees like this does a couple of things. It quickly puts them where they need to be while at the same time decreasing the bees on the frame which in turn can decrease the risk of bees getting smashed or rolled between the frames when sticking the frames back down into the hive. Bumping them off the lid accomplishes a similar goal of getting the bees to run down between the frames instead of getting caught between the lid and frames or lid and box. Also shaking bees into the split allowed me to increase the population of the split while decreasing the big hive population further. The idea is to strengthen the split and decrease risk of swarming in the big hive by taking some bees away. Admittedly the bees were agitated and you are probably right that my handling of them played a role in that. It was also a bit chilly, windy and starting to get dark if memory serves me right. So yes I was a little “rough” with the bees. But some of the techniques were actually utilized to protect the bees in a sense while helping me achieve my goals faster. I hope this makes sense. I have never claimed to be the smoothest or best beekeeper on the planet but I am always trying to get better. Though I have a long ways to go I have been blessed to see quite a bit of success with the bees. Having done hundreds if not thousands of inspections I have learned a thing or two. And there is much more to learn. Thanks for watching and thanks for checking in. Hey
The late Richard Taylor used ro claim plastics in a bee hive was the invention of the devel.
To each his own. Everyone should do what works best for them.
Too much expensive PLASTIC! What would hobby beekeepers do if they didn't have all this new plastic stuff to spend their retirement income on? I'm an old retired geezer that would rather recycle and use scraps of pine or whatever and make wooden parts. Call me crazy, but my beekeeping requires very little expense. I don't need to be married to a realtor or a banker and I can still afford to buy a pack of beer once in a while. Cripe sake!
If you watch my channel you will see that almost all my other colonies are in traditional woodenware, but thought this would be fun so finally pulled the trigger. I am a little beyond a “hobby” beekeeper status as far as numbers go but you could call this my “hobby” beeyard. I definitely understand where you are coming from. On a positive note…I imagine these Apimaye hives will last for many years. The one I bought about 2 years ago shoes very little signs of wear and tear.
Sorry but I am not here for an apimay ad
Ok. Just showing what I am doing. You have watched a lot of my other videos and I really appreciate it. And you know I have a lot of other “irons in the fire.” A vast majority of my hives are the traditional wooden hives. I just like these Apmiayes and wanted to give them a try. And the truth is they look way better for my backyard apiary. But I don’t expect anyone to do what I do. Just trying to share my journey.
Not a good choice...-
Ok. You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
@@brucesbees ...Nothing better than wood.Langstroth 10 frame hive or in cooler places (i do bees in Mediteranean sea area) 8 frame hives.Hives made of plastic (any plastic,any hive) just add to the microplastic polution of your product.Wax,honey,propolis,pollen.Wood.Tested material for 100s of years.
@@paganpoet3 you have to do what works best for you, though I don’t buy into the “plastic is bad” theory. The bees seem to thrive in these hives. But, like most beekeepers, almost all of my bees are in wooden hives. I just say to everyone, “you do you.” Best of luck and thanks for checking in.
Just not practical... five to six hundred for two deeps and two mediums. why even bother...
Yep. Not proactively But I like them. Would never be able to afford a bunch of them but for the hobbyist that juts wants a couple of hives not a bad a option. I think they will last for many years. My original one is nearly 2 years old with very little sign of wear. If you have seen other videos of mine you will see that almost all are traditional wood boxes.