@@Prodigious1One It's evidently based on real-world EV usage data: for most people that would be enough for their daily needs. And a smaller battery means lower weight (but then they added it back on by putting it in an SUV body). SUVs are popular, though, so I see the logic, even if doesn't suit me.
The rear doors may be “hugely impractical”, but it’s more practical than a 2-door car without rear doors. Matter of perspective. :) Not a lot of 2-door options in the EV space.
Agreed! It seems all video knock cars without giant backseats. If you just want a second card for around town, you really don't want a giant backseat. The fact that the car has a small battery, which pairs with small seat. Smaller battery also means cheaper, perfect for a second car.
@@dynalyte In this case the small back seat and small boot along with a small battery costs more and weighs more than a bigger much better car. No good for a second car.
I also think it seems like the doors were designed that way to get child seats in and out 🤷♀️ back seat passengers also won’t get dirty on the way in and out
One of my favourite EVs and I would buy one tomorrow but the range is just too short for me. I could live with 140-150 real world but under 100 is a deal breaker. Gutted.
Just wait a few years. I'm not in the market for one of these right this moment, but I will be in a couple years. I'm sure by then they'll have an extended range model, both fully electric and plug-in hybrid.
I bought an MX-30 in June 2022. After a year (and 30,000 km travelled), I can say that I am very satisfied with the purchase. It is the perfect car for me and for my work. It is the perfect car for the use for which it was designed. I stopped having range anxiety!
I share with you my experience after 6 months driving a MX30, and not just test-driving it for a few hours, MX30 is absolutely a very gorgeous car, inside-out with outstanding finishing quality and very comfortable and pleasant to drive. BUT WHAT A SHAME!!! Technically as an EV, MX30 is useless! When the temperature drops to freezing point or even near, driving range on the highway drops to 110KM (140KM off highway) and worst is the charging time, it takes over 3 hours (in cold weather) to recharge the battery on a CCS 50KW/h charging station and not 45 minutes as announced by Mazda! You need to stop 3 hours at a fast charging station to be able to drive less than one hour!
Great car to drive with fantastic interior quality. As I am now retired I travel on average 100 miles a week, so I would only need to charge the car ONCE a week. The BIG question for me would be - with the back seats folded down would I be able to get my golf clubs in it!
Since they based in on a cx-30 anyway they could've just made a cx-30 electric as a compliance car and be done with it but instead they made a BMW i3... Except that came out almost a decade ago
@@TL-xw6fh Is the MX 30? it has dreadful range and not much room inside yet still weighs more than some other EV's If I want a small battery I would buy an second hand Hyundai Ioniq.
Greetings from Canada. My questions that were not answered from your video. 1. Battery Chemistry? 2. Type of heating system? 3. Platform - modified ICE or EV from the ground up? Frunk present? I currently own a Mazda CX-5 and AWD matters here in Canada. Will there be an AWD variant available?
I tested LHD version a few months ago.. everything you say is spot on... I've Said it on many forums.. why did they build this? And EV version of the CX30 would of been the way to go....I've had 5 Mazda's in the 7 past years..the last was the CX30 which is a good car. Having a range extender this is a backward move. Mazda needed this to a hit, unfortunately it's a miss.
@@paulholterhaus7084 Grear car, with loads of extras, comfort and driving joy. Not many EV's where you get this much goodies for the price! If you can live with the range (which most Europeans can)
@@barrierodliffe4155 Shopping car? I can easily visit all my family (~3-19km), pick up my partner from work (20km) go to the hospital (34km) and commute to work (24km) all in the same day if I wanted to. Why does it bother you so much that people like this car?
I have tested this car last week and have to say was very impressed. I'm looking for my 24kwh Leaf replacement and so far this is my favourite car after driving Honda E, Zoe, Corsa E.
What did you go for in the end please Dariusz? I love this car and the quality Vs price is excellent, but the range could be a problem. I'm interested that you were looking at this after a leaf, and preferred it to the Corsa. The Corsa is another well priced package, and I like a driver's car.
@@philip771 I ended up buying MG5. Sadly mazda couldn't even get close to what MG offered on PCP finance. On top of this MG give 7years warranty, longer range and more practicality. I was also considering Nissan 40kwh which was cheaper but as mentioned before MG offers a lot more car for the money 💰
@@DariuszTech Thanks for replying. I don't like the Leaf, personally, but the MG does indeed offer very good value. I'm not sure about making the shift from diesel, which I know sounds crazy, but I don't think the technology Vs price is there yet. Maybe on lease.... Thanks again, enjoy your MG!
We are very curious about this car. Will probably arrange for a test drive in the near future. But for now, we appreciate some pos and cons. + Like the fairly high seating position, for easy entry. + Having both doors open facilitates entry for individuals facing mobility challenges + The handle over the door, was appreciated by individuals facing mobility challenges. + more traditional instruments and controls are appreciated. * The range is sufficient. It's not a pro, bur less raneg would be a con. * Don't expect to use DC charging very often, it's not a problem but faster wouldn't hurt. - We would appreciate AWD - Capability to tow 500 k (1100 lbs) trailer would be appreciated
What were they thinking of with that range?? This just feels like a compliance car. Mazda seem to not be into electric, are years away from a dedicated electric platform instead of shoving an electric motor in an ICE car and, in my opinion, are going to struggle to stay relevant in the coming years. A mid sized car that can't get from Yorkshire to the Midlands on a full charge? - nonsense.
Because it's a city car, Mazda says that it's a second car, what is confusing you? And there are a lot of ppl that their lives depends on the traditional petrol/diesel engines market
@@sumosloths98 Agreed! What other EV do you get for $30k with all that equipment, comfort and handling? Cheaper than the MG ZS where I live, and much nicer to look at and drive 👍
I can speak for my entire town when I say that NOBODY in Thurso will buy one. You literally could not drive it home from the dealership! 109 miles from the nearest dealer, which is also our nearest city, nearest main hospital etc etc. Ok, the official range is 124 miles, but real world (Highland roads) with little infrastructure for charging, you need high 200's or even 300 miles plus to be on the "consider" list in this town...
Even if you "know" you will never do many long journeys - trust me don't buy it. You will probably be committing to 2 years+ in it and things WILL Change. I went for the Cupra Born instead as its actually more of a school run car but you just know that time will come when you need to drive about 70miles and back in the same day...
I do a 34 mile commute daily. I never do more than 60 miles in one day, ever. I used to own a Mazda MX-3 Coupe which I sorely miss. This would replace it nicely. Mazda, take my money already! p.s. These will be very cost effective as second hand purchases - and they’ll still be in excellent condition because it’s a very high quality design and product. 😊❤
In the winter, the range in this car will be roughly 60 - 70 miles. So that means that you will need to charge the batteries from 0 to 100% every other day, or charge it every day from 50% to full. That isn't going to be doing much good to the batteries in the long-term (and I'm a EV fan). My jaw dropped when I heard the range.
@Hustwick If you are charging it on a home charger, you're not looking at a long-term problem. It's using the powerful high-speed chargers that is a problem - and by the way, the BMS on this EV allows a maximum of 37kWh charging speed - even less in winter. I am okay with those specs - I fully agree it will not suit everyone. I'm 63 years old. This would probably be my last car. I'm retiring in 3 years! The MX-30 suits me perfectly 🥰 Long journeys? I'll take a coach, train or plane. This will get me around my big city. I'll be lucky to do 40 miles in one day max.
Every reviewer makes such a big deal out of the impracticality of the doors and rear cabin access. Sliding the passenger front seat forward is simple and allows heaps of room to climb in the back. Obviously we've forgotten about all the 2 door coupes that have ever existed. This car isn't designed to replace your family sedan or SUV. For the few occasions when you will carry passengers in the back, this car is completely fine.
As a single man that does not commute very far, and also has a dog, I find it to be very practical.... You can pick one up for about 14000 now.... Mazda makes a good car.
I wonder if there's someone at Mazda thinking, Why aren't we selling as many of those MX-30s? What a dreadful attempt at an EV. What are they thinking. Mazda has done some cool sh*t over the years. This is a thorough disappointment.
One of the best reviews I've seen for a while. Really excellent and honest assessment of the pros and cons. The range extender model will be of very great interest, if they can also up the power a bit to get 0-62 in, say, 8 seconds. That would mean fun driving for the 90% of journeys under 125 miles and then no worries beyond that - just keep topping up with fuel and you can go to the south of France!! Personally I can live with the doors :)
Great car as a second car for us that live 20 miles outside the city. Better quality and equipment then many other cars in the same price range, since the smaller battery. We don't need more range, I prefer that instead of a bigger battery that we don't have any need for. I think it's great thinking with low range EV for those who don't need more then 50-60 miles (or less) per day, just as they make ICE cars with less Hp fore those who don't need an every day car that do 0-60 in 6 seconds and 250km/h top speed.
Completely agree Martin! We drive less than 60 km a day, so this will work great for us. We test drove one a little while ago, and liked it so much that we ordered one! Will arrive in July. The top trim Cosmo with so much equipment, and it handles really well in corners and over speed bumps! Mazda has done a great job 👍 Great to hear that you are satisfied with it. Tjena från Norge!
@@TheDannyWinther we bought a used one (cosmo) that we got get in 2 weeks, with only 7000km on it (that 3 month driving for us), and after 4 weeks we have nearly 2000km in it, and 150km on the diesel in the same time. We save alot on gas, and it is so nice to drive. Tjena tillbaks ifrån Sverige!
@@exomnius We have been talking about buying an EV for a while, but with the latest crisis and gas prices of about 22-24 NOK/L we decided to go electric. Will indeed save a lot on gas, services, toll and insurance! 7000 km is not bad, almost a new car 👍 How is the Bose sound system?! Is it as good as I hope? I am a huge Bose fan, have many of their products 😉
It’s a good looking car but it doesn’t have enough range or AWD. I certainly don’t want to make extra stops to charge this car especially without AWD when I’m either in or about to be in a snow storm. This is primarily a city car but it snows in the city too and I may have to travel on unplowed streets. I hear Mazda intends to add a rotary engine as a range extender. But it doesn’t appear that that the rotary engine will connect to the drive wheels. Consequently, Mazda is simply spinning off a plug in gas/electric hybrid.
We have a premium trim '22 and i can't get enough of driving this car. It has the mazda fun factor, build quality is impeccable, it feels more upscale than my "luxury" car, it's such a well done, lovely car. Also so technological with loads of features as well. The range is comical though. Since they recommend using it in the 20-80 range, the ACTUAL range is 60 miles and even lower if u have fun with it and drive in spirit. It's such a shame. Could have been absolutely perfect.
I honestly admire Mazda as a manufacturer but I am at a loss to understand the marketing plan behind this product? It's configuration just won't appeal to a lot of buyers due to the passenger access to the back seats. BWW tried this with the i3 to mixed results, and the RX-7 was a sports car so no one was expected to use the back seats anyway. Also the range on this model is just not competitive with other EV products now on the road. Mazda does interiors and handling really well so there is that but it is still not enough to be what I believe will be a strong seller for them. They would have been better off to have kept the CX-30 body, 4-doors and bumped up the battery range to at least 200 miles before introducing this to the general public. Better yet, bring out a Mazda 5 EV! Loved that design.
@@TheDannyWinther If you want a car to not go anywhere except to the shops then it might be nice for you, any car can be fun if you know how to drive. I have driven many cars and a Lotus is fun, any of the MG's I have driven from a 1930 MG M Type right through 1950's, 1960's, 1970's and 1980's is fun, the MG ZS i s very nice to drive, I would not call it fun like a Mini Cooper but it is fine for those who want a good family car and want to go somewhere.
@@barrierodliffe4155 The MG is not British anymore, they have been bought by the Chinese. Did you not know? I test drove the ZS EV, and It handled nowhere as good as the MX-30 imo. And like I said I rarely drive more than 50 km a day, so I don't see your fictional "problem".
Full electric car range is still too poor at the moment to suit everybody. If (as it is for me) a semi-regular journey is: 200 miles/ Stay overnight somewhere with no charger/ 200 miles home, then the current crop of full electric cars are nowhere near good enough to do that journey without wasting a lot of time at a soul-destroying service station. And I more frequently do 70+ mile daily journeys (again with no charger at destination) which is beyond the range of conventional PHEVs. But yes - the medium-battery-plus-rotary-range-extender drivetrain would suit me and I'd be full electric almost all the time, without lugging around the dead weight of a huge battery which most days I wouldn't use. (Admittedly there'll be a little weight in the rotary engine + generator but I bet it'll be quite compact/light compared to an extra 200kg of battery or whatever.) I just wish they'd put that drivetrain into a more practical body without the stupid doors.
Lockdown becomes a lot easier to implement if they just shut off the electric. Hard pass. I’ll keep the CX-9. My third row is more comfortable and has more headroom than the rear seats in this vehicle do.
@@davidy7004 Exactly this. I loved my i3 with REx (30K miles, but £76 of petrol used), but preferred the build of the Maxda CX-5. Put a REx on this (I know they plan to), lose the suicide doors and remove the stupid internal artificial engine noise and I would buy one.
@@afcgeo882 Thanx for that. So the Front door won't close, unless the Rear door is closed first then. So there is some kind of Mechanical Interlock to prevent this?
@@mrlintonious The latch for the front door, that would normally be in the B pillar, is in the rear door and it only locks if the front door slides into it from the outside, not inside. Ever check out a van’s doors? It’s the same.
And that means that if you enter through the passenger side in the back and there isn't someone sitting in front of you, then you can't close both doors from the inside. What an impractical design, they need to go back to the drawing board with this one.
@@BenjaminRodriguezReyes Yes... and it’s not new either. In North America there have been a few vehicles with that design already and no one liked it: Honda Element (a 100% American Honda), Saturn SC coupe, and various pick-ups. Pick-up trucks sort of work as the space behind is considered more for utility than passengers. If you regularly have passengers then you’d get a “crew cab” proper 4-door version.
Just test drove one, was great but was kind of concerning that I used 20% of the battery on a city to small village and back again... averaging 3.1kw per mile... just wish it had WLTP of like 180 ish ... / having a 45kwh battery vs a 35kwh battery and they don't tell you if that's total or useable
The new version shd be interesting but.. I live in Thailand where Mazda take up to 3 yrs to bring new models to market with no info for waiting potential buyers
Mazda purposely mad the range short because they are playing it safe with the EV market which is very smart Mazda. This will only be their entry level EV because they plan to make many more electric models. How many of you make trips over 100 miles daily. Honda has done the same with their E model and only made the max range 140 miles.
I find it hedious and it really is so behind the KIA/Hyundai models. Japanese electric cars have a long way to go. They spent way more time than everyone else sleeping on the hybrid wagon...
havnt you noticed? I mean they always sleep cause they want to perfect whatever it is they are building.. Unlike tesla, or vw who let out infotainment screens which don't work and fix them along the way. Me i personally prefer the slightly outdated but working tech. But i guess being a test dummy has its, appeal
I see a lot of complaining people in the comments, and I don't get it, I tried this car and it's comfortable to drive, it's beautiful and it's the best "city car" I tried, in my opinion.
I think it’s great if you live in a city with a home to charge overnight. But with only 100 miles on a full charge it would be difficult to maintain having to go to the charging station a few times a week.
I think this could be a great car if the price is right. It's very similar to the now discontinued BMW i3 (which I own). There is a lot of nit-picking going on here, but of the top two issues for me would be a leather seating option as those recycled fabric seats stain very easily. The second would be the range which might have been already addressed with the introduction of their hybrid option. All around the MX-30 could be a great option for folks interested in an EV cruiser.
It’s not half-baked. It’s just quirky and different - with a small range some of us can live with. I bet it’s not as expensive as the other EV’s to insure either.
Reminds me a lot of my late BMW i3. The rotary dial controls, use of recycled materials, and the suicide doors are all straight lifted from the i3. Along with the upcoming model that will have a gas range extender.
Some time ago a French plane maker failed by making a short range airliner for internal flights. Airlines wanted a plane that did both long and short flights. This car will fail because of the short range. Mazdas argument is that most journeys are less than 100 miles. Correct but there are times when you want to go further so you either buy another car or hire one? It's an expensive car to have to do that. So people will go for longer range. Big mistake to make and Mazda can only save it by making a long range model.
I know nothing about electric cars but how long would it take to charge after it runs out? Does it mean that on a journey you'd have to charge it for 3 hrs or more before you could carry on?
@@TheDannyWinther Most peole do not drive at 30 to 40 kmh, I know you do and you have admitted to only driving very short distances, even the Mazda should charge to full inside 45 minutes after a 10 km drive.
@@barrierodliffe4155 You silly goose.. It charges from 10-80% in 40 minutes (actual tests), not 45 minutes after 10 km. And mixed driving is 220 km in summer, which includes highways. But keep trying, triggered troglodyte. Also, what is a peole?
It's all about quality. I just can not bring myself to buy a Chinese EV. The Japanese without doubt make the best quality reliable electronic products. Have done for decades. And there is nothing more electronic than a electric vehicle. There are so many horror stories about EVs. This I would trust to be reliable when the warranty runs out. Mazda has thought about this machine. I have a Mitsubishi I-miev and it has half the range of this. I know from experience that this range is enough for a city vehicle. I also don't want a 4 door family/geriatric/conservative vehicle. It's more practical than a 2 door. I think this is a good looking good design and high quality vehicle.
August 2024 or buy a pre reg for under 17k. If you really only do local trips that price must change the proposition especially if you have solar and batteries and owning an ev gets you a better rate for your electric.
I really wanted to like this car. The style, the shape and above all else, the usual classy, refined and upmarket feeling interior as always from recent Mazdas.....but the rear doors are just unacceptable for one thing. The battery range is frankly appalling when you consider smaller class cars have better range and the acceleration and top speed is just enough to ensure you'll never experience that thrill and confidence of pulling away from another car at the lights. I'm currently looking to buy an EV but this MX-30 is not even in the running unfortunately. What an embarrassing flop for Mazda.
I too thought the range was bad, before my 24hr test drive. To have a longer range all-electric you need a bigger battery: this car weighs 1,600kg which is lighter than most and handles well as a result. It's not for everyone of course. For the mileage and journeys I do, I'd rather have a car that is fun to drive and well built and thought out. They forgot to mention the HUD, one of the best of all cars, not just in this segment. The range extender version would make it so much more versatile, and appeal to a greater audience: it is rumoured to use a 300cc/30KW (or thereabouts) wankel motor that recharges the battery: on the occasional long trip (>200 miles) you can just fill up the petrol tank and get another 100 or so miles in less time it would take a fast charger (if you find one that is...). For the next 5 years or so, as the electric car charging infrastructure improves, it makes sense. The real negative point IMHO is the fast charging: it only supports up to a theoretical 50KWh, but not really, only charging at 30-40KWh, and the curve really tricle-charges past 60%: this car would have benefitted from 150KWh charging and a better charging curve. When will car reviewers actually test the cars they drive??? I test drove it for 24 hours, and despite what the review says, I did have it in max regen setting, and in town I was achieving well over >4miles/KWh average with the A/C on. Plus it has a heat pump as standard (unlike some rivals) and if combined with heated seats and heated steering wheel, in the winter you can improve the range by turning down the heater. Not for everyone: but this is a car that is really enjoyable to drive. Much better built than many rivals too. I am sure Mazda will come up with many more all-electric models that will suit a wider audience.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I know you think the MG is a better car, but that has nothing on the MX-30 in terms of quality, equipment, comfort and driving experience.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Let it go, honestly. MX-30 is not for you, it has its audience and fortunately or unfortunately you are not the one. Your frame of mind is stuck on the "short range" mantra. They never claimed this car will be suitable for all, "one size fits all" was not the goal for this EV.
@@oneclaydoll The MX 30 is not for many people, it lacks range, lacks performance, is not even light and there are better cars but if it is what you like then fine. Just one rather important point, it might work for a short commute to work but what if you want to go away at the weekend?
Think I'd go for an MG5, it's estate body and regular family styling means a good cheap all rounder with decent range. Ok so the brand isn't as plush when keeping up with the neighbours but for an Electric family car can you want more for the money?
@Stephen Graham small crossovers tend to be the domain of the young family buyer. Quite what classification this falls into is quite confusing, it doesn't seem to neatly fit any usual market. The MG5 especially in long range Exclusive trim is very well kitted out and offers good range to boot for relatively little money compared to in some cases smaller EV's whether you have a family or are a motorway munching business/sales person
Yet the Tesla has good range and looks and is a very good car, Mazda is late to the EV Market and think they can sell a car that would have been just about ok ten years ago.
The MX-30 is brilliant at doing what it is supposed to do, and Mazda is very explicit on what it is and isn't supposed to do. For sure, Mazda is not scamming potential buyers into thinking otherwise. It is not brilliant at doing what it is not supposed to do, obviously. It is for certain scenarios and not for others. It is impossible to decide what is brilliant or terrible without considering a scenario (I think this is the point of the video), as if it was possible to ask in absolute terms which is better between an open top roadster and a 4-wheels drive pickup... well, what are You gonna do, have fun driving during the weekend or moving hay bales off road to the horses up the hill? Is the MX-5 a brilliant family car, when Your family is 2 grandpas, 2 grandma, wife and four children? Is the Dodge Ram a brilliant city car, when Your city center is built as old European villages are and You are wondering how even horses could have moved through that 'road' (the answer is 'donkeys', of course)? The MX-30 is designed with commuting in mind. Within its scope of intended use, it is brilliant, efficient, and with a favorable ratio of quality to cost. This is not a given achievement, there are things around that are not good at doing what they are supposed to do, but the MX-30 is not among them. This is a car for conscious buyers who are aware that their use will fit with the design, which is what all buyers should be. PS: the 'freestyle' doors have pros and cons. Most reviews will list the evident cons (You need to open the front doors before the rear doors, etc.), but often will stop the pros list at 'style' or 'look'. There are practical pros in the design, though. This car is a crossover coupé, and once its design is fixed You have three options: no back doors, front hinged back doors, rear hinged back doors with or without the central pillar. The solution that maximizes the accessibility is the rear hinged back doors without the central pillar. It is in principle a trade off with the need to open the front doors first, but that is not at a disadvantage with the no-back-doors solution, while offering quite a more comfortable access to the back. Respect to the standard front hinged doors, my experience with cars that have a similar design of the rear compartment is that they can be surprisingly uncomfortable to move through, really cramped. The MX-30 avoids this problem.
Sorry, but do you hear yourself? Honestly? You know it’s 2021, right? There are FAR better EVs on the market at this price range. EVs that give you more range, more car, a better interior and without the minuses. By the way, a front-hinged rear door would have made it FAR easier to get in and out, even in this shape car. Look at the Toyota CH-R for example. Easier to use, more practical and more comfortable.
@@afcgeo882 I have no problem if we disagree. If You want to consider my argument, then it is that any car (actually any thing) is judged by what we want to do with it, that in choosing our tools we should consider what they are designed for and their actual capacity resulting from those design choices. This is no excuse for poor design, of course. But poor design is quite different than being designed for a certain use, and thus being poor for other, not intended, uses. For instance, if the MX-30 limited range was the result of poor efficiency in comparison with the competition, it would be a minus. But instead it has limited range because they made the decision to put on it a small battery which they assessed to give enough range for the intended use. This is a choice that might or might not fit Your needs, but it is not bad execution, per se. I think that we would agree that the choice on the range of a diesel car or of an EV are very different. If there is space there are not a lot of cons to increase the capacity of a plastic fuel tank, but for an EV a battery twice or thrice the size has a significant impact on the consumption of resources and their recycling impact at the end of life. So, for what are we requiring larger batteries? Again, it is a matter of the scenario of intended use, if the extra battery is not going to be used in that scenario, it is only dead weight to bring along worsening the efficiency, etc. It is not necessary to agree with Mazda, but is it true that today's batteries have a huge life cycle impact? Yes. Is it true that they weight a lot? Yes. Is it true that for a 100 km per day commuting, 250 days per year, recharging at home during the night, or a 200 km commuting, if You can recharge both at home and at work, this car have You covered with its small battery? Yes. Is it true that if You need to travel 500 km or more regularly, this is definitely NOT the car You need? Yes. You can make similar considerations for speed and acceleration, do You need more than 140 km/h top speed? Do You need to go 0-100 km/h in 3 seconds? Then this is not the car for You. If You don't need those performances, do You need the more powerful, more heavy, more power hungry engines that they require? No, You don't. I don't know how this car is priced in Your country respect to other models, so I can't comment on that. Here in Italy it is very competitively priced. Of course, having smaller batteries helps there too. And we do want to pay less if it has smaller batteries and less powerful engines, independently of Mazda design choices. The interiors are good, very good for the price, then it is a preference of styles. I really like the displays and control layout, as my preferences are against the distracting "touchy" mess of some other cars. I have not tried the C-HR back compartment, but it looks that they managed a good design of the very large doors (relatively to the size of the back of the car), it seems a good example. The MX-30 achieves a comfortable access and exit with smaller doors, thanks to the fact that they are rear hinged, but it is true that smaller doors are not necessarily a plus for us. It is still a lot better than the similar cars I actually tried, I'm thinking some DS models. I would put a critic on the fact that the chassis is not optimized for an electric car, in the sense that the car just don't need the whole size of its front (in the EV configuration at least), and it might be (?) heavier than it needs to be. But I like the design of the car, and they would need to change it to "fix" that. Also, the use of the internal space for the given volume is not the best overall, but the best overall is not a crossover coupé, it's a Fiat Stilo SW or a Fiat Multipla, and even Fiat stopped producing those, or a van... for what it is, I find it is good. Remember, it is not a family car. But You can have children seats in the back, and You'll discover that those rear hinged doors are good when You have to put children in and fasten their belts, as the rear hinged doors don't cut Your access/exit route. In a parking lot there is a limitation resulting from the need to open the front door enough to allow the opening of the rear door, while having the passenger fitting in the space left by the front door. It is a cumbersome maneuver, and even more so when we are not used to it. I was surprised that I didn't need more than 60 cm of space to do it, which is just the space needed to avoid interference between the doors, and not more than I would need to enter conventional doors. I am slim, though.
@@ThePinkus Oh I see now... you just like to talk, even when you have nothing to say. You’re literally making all these things up just to seem smart. The simple fact is that the Nissan Leaf and the Hyundai products are better sized, more roomy, have better range, better performance and better technology than this car, all at the same, competitive price and none of your fantasy supports your claims. Oh and putting in a child seat through those doors is FAR more difficult than with rear hinged doors (clearly you haven’t done either) as the latches are all the way in the seat.
@Stephen Graham most people buy car based on practicality, few people buy for status (luxury) , very few buy to have fun ( aka performance super cars) . This car is neither practical ( for the price) , nor a status symbol, or fun to drive ( 0-60 in 9 plus seconds? For electric)? I see this car is not selling more than 5k units in a year , if they are lucky.
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I kind of like what mazda is doing, this is the electric version of the gas car you buy for work and day to day driving. So you dont have to put many miles on your dream car in the garage. Definitely not the car you buy if you have a family and you can only afford one car, but it is perfect for someone who wants a work horse so they can keep the other car looking pretty.
@@TheDannyWinther This Barrie guy has difficulty processing information that Mazda did not make this car to fit HIS needs, he just could not let it go😄 . Bless his little cotton socks.
@@TheDannyWinther Some people do not look at the car they are driving, they are actually driving. Again I would prefer a Leaf or Ora Cat or Neo or many other much nicer and better cars than the noddy little Mazda.
@@oneclaydoll Haha, I know right? He can't stand that some people actually likes this car. The irony is that he is in love with a Chinese noddy car known as the MG ZS 😅 Bless his troglodyte mind.
i think the range is not bad for a second car. I would never take any ev on a long trip anyway. Even with 400 km range. I mean the range anxiety, the chargers potentially being taken. The trip might take forever. And if you go fast enough you can make the range decrease the range 2x if you use heat or go above 130. I mean small city evs make sense atm. i think
Managed 300 mile trips through the Scottish highlands (middle of nowhere) with my 1st generation BMW i3 without a problem. It really isn’t that big of a deal once you give it a chance.
@@DarcersTech I agree it is possible for sure to live with an EV. And I certainly applaud those who do. But yea I think 95 percent of my journeys daily dont take more than 200km. So this car would suit me well. But for road trips id like a car I wouldn't have to stress about. THere are plenty of remote places id be scared to go to with an EV. I might even replace my cx3 with this mx30 as our family uses it solely for the city. :)))
I saw a video by two people who took two similar cars, one electric and one petrol on an 800 km trip.The electric car had to go off the highway to charge yet it only took about40 minutes longer. The petrol car took over 9 hours. These days range anxiety is a myth, the last couple of times had range anxiety was in petrol vehicles.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I am still not convicned. I mean im guessing they were going around 100 km/h or something? In a petrol car you can go as fast as 130-200km/h without range anxiety. (where such speed limit is legal). Being able, to drive fast and far without much planning or worrying has been something we take for granted. With electric cars its not possible. You can justify yourself that you need coffee breaks and you can charge then but in reality one with a petrol car can also have that luxury if he chooses. Difference is he doesn't have to. I love driving electric cars for sure I am just saying they are simply not as convenient as pump and go in 5 min for 800km.
@@metoo3773 It would depend on the speed limit, how often can you do 200 km? In France on a highway heading towards Paris there was a 130 kmh speed limit which reduced to 110 kmh and then to 90 kmh, I did suffer range anxiety in the Toyota I was driving, in New Zealand the maximum open road speed limit is 100 kmh, in USA I have mostly seen 70 mph or about 110 kmh. Australia 100 kmh or 110 kmh. I doubt there are any petrol or diesel cars that can do 200 kmh for 800 kms, range goes down with speed once you go over 100 kmh. I drive a route of 500 kms and I stop at least three times, I usually drive the first 140 kms which I have done in 1 1/2 hours since it involves a lot of winding road and a bit of climbing, at that point I am ready for a break, remember the 1 1/2 hours I have done twice, once in a BMW, the other time in an MG Montego, I have driven the same route in Toyota, Nissan and Mazda and they have taken longer, probably about 1 3/4 hours. The range anxiety I have encountered in Mazda and Nissan on the return since the last 140 kmh there is only one garage and it is not always open, I have topped up with a 1/4 tank which should be enough to get home but are you going to say that you have never stopped for fuel when the tank had less than a 1/4 left? The test I mentioned was in Australia so they would have been doing about 100 kmh and both cars would have to stop at least once, the cars were from memory both Hyundai, being the same car but one the Kona EV and the other the petrol version, I believe the EV had to stop three times, the petrol just once for fuel but two of the stops for the EV were quite short, the petrol car driver had to stop at least three times so even if he had a range of 800 kms which he didn't he would still have to stop for food or a quick break. I have timed my journeys in petrol cars for this very reason and as long as I can do 160 kms realistic range which means stopping to charge at 20 % or so and maybe only charging to 80 % I could manage quite well without long stops, there are enough charging locations now to make it quite realistic, there are EV's which can top 300 kms quite easily.
In the same way that the Honda e and Mini Electric have deliberately small batteries, Mazda claim it is to provide better handling for what is, after all, being marketed as an urban runaround, plus why it is so relatively inexpensive. But, yes, a 'real-world' range of sub-100 miles makes it a tough sell...!
It's actually a great second car for local runs and seems to be designed specifically for that purpose, also with respect to performance characteristics. More importantly, it makes more sense than small cars where manufacturers desperately try to fit in as big as possible batteries that add unnecessary weight, which nobody talks about. Weight means more tyre wear, more particular emissions, more road damage. We'll see small, mid-size electric cars with well over 2 ton curb weight around, and electric SUVs approaching 3 tons. Mazda's way makes sense to me, similar to Honda's.
@@stuffluster Lol! In which EV do you get all the equipment you get with the MX-30 Cosmo for €26k?! Sure, it doesn't have great range, but most people don't need 300+ km daily 👍
You mean if I drive more than 100 miles even one time in this car's life, I shouldn't buy it? As if there are no other options for long journeys, which frankly most of us take very rarely. But 50 to 100 mile journeys are an almost daily occurrence. Our outdated expectation for driving range is one of the biggest hurdles to widespread EV adoption, and dogmatic reviews like this only reinforce that mental block.
@@barrierodliffe4155 It is too much money, I'm saying it's not too little range. It covers 90% of people's driving needs on one charge. The range is far less than what we're used to, yet it's still as much as we need in most cases.
This has dropped in value like a rock as 2nd hand. Given the positives it would be great as family's daily commuter car (2nd car) if you can charge at home.
@@Steve-gc5nt I mean I am first to walk to the car and I will be sitting in the back of the car. The driver will come in 10 minutes and it's raining outside.
No fully electric car should be doing less than 300 miles per charge that should be the benchmark! Which for me is a real shame as this car is one unique looker! They still kept the front grill as it looks stupid on other cars with no grill... I think the top middle screen didnt need to be there and the middle one should be the top main one...
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As someone who's owned four Mazdas, I wish they'd just made an electric Mazda3 and given it at least 200 miles range.
They couldn't even put that range into MX-30, let alone smaller Mazda3
@@harryshuman9637 there’s a reason they didn’t. This car is for big cities and for local commuters.
Yeah, exactly. I wonder why only 100 miles of range?
@@TRU2Sk9ng1992 yeah right, imagine having only 100 miles of range in a city like Toronto where you have to commute for an hour each way.
@@Prodigious1One It's evidently based on real-world EV usage data: for most people that would be enough for their daily needs. And a smaller battery means lower weight (but then they added it back on by putting it in an SUV body). SUVs are popular, though, so I see the logic, even if doesn't suit me.
The rear doors may be “hugely impractical”, but it’s more practical than a 2-door car without rear doors. Matter of perspective. :) Not a lot of 2-door options in the EV space.
They said the same thing about the rx-8. I had one for 3 years. Nobody complained. I choose my friends wisely I guess :-)
Agreed! It seems all video knock cars without giant backseats. If you just want a second card for around town, you really don't want a giant backseat. The fact that the car has a small battery, which pairs with small seat. Smaller battery also means cheaper, perfect for a second car.
@@fenegroni Or maybe you do not have many friends.
@@dynalyte
In this case the small back seat and small boot along with a small battery costs more and weighs more than a bigger much better car. No good for a second car.
I also think it seems like the doors were designed that way to get child seats in and out 🤷♀️ back seat passengers also won’t get dirty on the way in and out
One of my favourite EVs and I would buy one tomorrow but the range is just too short for me. I could live with 140-150 real world but under 100 is a deal breaker. Gutted.
Just wait a few years. I'm not in the market for one of these right this moment, but I will be in a couple years. I'm sure by then they'll have an extended range model, both fully electric and plug-in hybrid.
!!!!!!!!...............Mazda will have to fix this if They really want to sell these things......Should also ditch the FWD.....Paul
@@paulholterhaus7084 FWD unfortunately seems to be fast becoming the norm on new EV's
this is not a hybrid, takes gas too right?
I bought an MX-30 in June 2022. After a year (and 30,000 km travelled), I can say that I am very satisfied with the purchase. It is the perfect car for me and for my work. It is the perfect car for the use for which it was designed. I stopped having range anxiety!
Really didn't expect it to look this good, kind of like it. Great video as usual!
I share with you my experience after 6 months driving a MX30, and not just test-driving it for a few hours, MX30 is absolutely a very gorgeous car, inside-out with outstanding finishing quality and very comfortable and pleasant to drive. BUT WHAT A SHAME!!! Technically as an EV, MX30 is useless! When the temperature drops to freezing point or even near, driving range on the highway drops to 110KM (140KM off highway) and worst is the charging time, it takes over 3 hours (in cold weather) to recharge the battery on a CCS 50KW/h charging station and not 45 minutes as announced by Mazda! You need to stop 3 hours at a fast charging station to be able to drive less than one hour!
Thanks for the info - the limited range has just crossed this of my list
Great car to drive with fantastic interior quality. As I am now retired I travel on average 100 miles a week, so I would only need to charge the car ONCE a week. The BIG question for me would be - with the back seats folded down would I be able to get my golf clubs in it!
Since they based in on a cx-30 anyway they could've just made a cx-30 electric as a compliance car and be done with it but instead they made a BMW i3... Except that came out almost a decade ago
That's the reason why. The chassis is not suitable to be electrified.
@@TL-xw6fh Is the MX 30? it has dreadful range and not much room inside yet still weighs more than some other EV's If I want a small battery I would buy an second hand Hyundai Ioniq.
Greetings from Canada. My questions that were not answered from your video. 1. Battery Chemistry? 2. Type of heating system? 3. Platform - modified ICE or EV from the ground up? Frunk present? I currently own a Mazda CX-5 and AWD matters here in Canada. Will there be an AWD variant available?
I tested LHD version a few months ago.. everything you say is spot on... I've Said it on many forums.. why did they build this? And EV version of the CX30 would of been the way to go....I've had 5 Mazda's in the 7 past years..the last was the CX30 which is a good car. Having a range extender this is a backward move. Mazda needed this to a hit, unfortunately it's a miss.
Agree........Presently drive a 21 CX30...........Paul
@@paulholterhaus7084 Grear car, with loads of extras, comfort and driving joy. Not many EV's where you get this much goodies for the price! If you can live with the range (which most Europeans can)
Who can live with the complete lack of range? it is very expensive for a shopping car.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Shopping car? I can easily visit all my family (~3-19km), pick up my partner from work (20km) go to the hospital (34km) and commute to work (24km) all in the same day if I wanted to. Why does it bother you so much that people like this car?
@@barrierodliffe4155 220 km in summer, 165 km in winter (actual tests by NAF and motor.no) is more than enough for most people in urban areas.
I have tested this car last week and have to say was very impressed. I'm looking for my 24kwh Leaf replacement and so far this is my favourite car after driving Honda E, Zoe, Corsa E.
The Leaf is bigger so this might be a big disappointment, I know it would not be any good for me.
What did you go for in the end please Dariusz? I love this car and the quality Vs price is excellent, but the range could be a problem. I'm interested that you were looking at this after a leaf, and preferred it to the Corsa. The Corsa is another well priced package, and I like a driver's car.
@@philip771 I ended up buying MG5. Sadly mazda couldn't even get close to what MG offered on PCP finance. On top of this MG give 7years warranty, longer range and more practicality. I was also considering Nissan 40kwh which was cheaper but as mentioned before MG offers a lot more car for the money 💰
@@DariuszTech Thanks for replying. I don't like the Leaf, personally, but the MG does indeed offer very good value. I'm not sure about making the shift from diesel, which I know sounds crazy, but I don't think the technology Vs price is there yet. Maybe on lease.... Thanks again, enjoy your MG!
@@philip771 thansk and good luck
Class winning range for a car 10 years ago .
Well done Mazda.
Rivals should learn from Mazda's button controls. The last thing I want to be using is a touch screen when driving.
We are very curious about this car. Will probably arrange for a test drive in the near future.
But for now, we appreciate some pos and cons.
+ Like the fairly high seating position, for easy entry.
+ Having both doors open facilitates entry for individuals facing mobility challenges
+ The handle over the door, was appreciated by individuals facing mobility challenges.
+ more traditional instruments and controls are appreciated.
* The range is sufficient. It's not a pro, bur less raneg would be a con.
* Don't expect to use DC charging very often, it's not a problem but faster wouldn't hurt.
- We would appreciate AWD
- Capability to tow 500 k (1100 lbs) trailer would be appreciated
Love this car, my only concern is the short range!
single buyer does not care about the back seat and door!
Very tricky on the range, have 60mile trip each way everyday which means I'll forever need to plugged in at either side of trip
What were they thinking of with that range?? This just feels like a compliance car. Mazda seem to not be into electric, are years away from a dedicated electric platform instead of shoving an electric motor in an ICE car and, in my opinion, are going to struggle to stay relevant in the coming years. A mid sized car that can't get from Yorkshire to the Midlands on a full charge? - nonsense.
They're coming out with a range extender model not soon after
Because it's a city car, Mazda says that it's a second car, what is confusing you? And there are a lot of ppl that their lives depends on the traditional petrol/diesel engines market
It is one of the absolute cheapest options out there. Plus there will be more trim levels in the near future with longer ranges.
@@sumosloths98 Hardly cheap and certainly not for such a short range car. There are much better cars for less money
@@sumosloths98 Agreed! What other EV do you get for $30k with all that equipment, comfort and handling? Cheaper than the MG ZS where I live, and much nicer to look at and drive 👍
Seems like it would have been way more useful with normal back doors like the cx-30. Picturing trying to get my toddler back there 😫
I can speak for my entire town when I say that NOBODY in Thurso will buy one. You literally could not drive it home from the dealership! 109 miles from the nearest dealer, which is also our nearest city, nearest main hospital etc etc. Ok, the official range is 124 miles, but real world (Highland roads) with little infrastructure for charging, you need high 200's or even 300 miles plus to be on the "consider" list in this town...
Even if you "know" you will never do many long journeys - trust me don't buy it. You will probably be committing to 2 years+ in it and things WILL Change.
I went for the Cupra Born instead as its actually more of a school run car but you just know that time will come when you need to drive about 70miles and back in the same day...
I do a 34 mile commute daily. I never do more than 60 miles in one day, ever.
I used to own a Mazda MX-3 Coupe which I sorely miss. This would replace it nicely.
Mazda, take my money already!
p.s. These will be very cost effective as second hand purchases - and they’ll still be in excellent condition because it’s a very high quality design and product. 😊❤
In the winter, the range in this car will be roughly 60 - 70 miles. So that means that you will need to charge the batteries from 0 to 100% every other day, or charge it every day from 50% to full. That isn't going to be doing much good to the batteries in the long-term (and I'm a EV fan). My jaw dropped when I heard the range.
@Hustwick If you are charging it on a home charger, you're not looking at a long-term problem.
It's using the powerful high-speed chargers that is a problem - and by the way, the BMS on this EV allows a maximum of 37kWh charging speed - even less in winter.
I am okay with those specs - I fully agree it will not suit everyone. I'm 63 years old. This would probably be my last car. I'm retiring in 3 years!
The MX-30 suits me perfectly 🥰
Long journeys? I'll take a coach, train or plane.
This will get me around my big city. I'll be lucky to do 40 miles in one day max.
Every reviewer makes such a big deal out of the impracticality of the doors and rear cabin access. Sliding the passenger front seat forward is simple and allows heaps of room to climb in the back. Obviously we've forgotten about all the 2 door coupes that have ever existed. This car isn't designed to replace your family sedan or SUV. For the few occasions when you will carry passengers in the back, this car is completely fine.
I cant understand why its curb weight is 1700kg with smaller batteries and while MG ZS EV is 1500 KG with bigger batteries?
Because the MG is made out of paper and foil. Everytime I tried one I was scared to break the door off.
It's hard to understand why manufacturers still build EVs with such impractical ranges (hi Honda!)
I think it’s to tick a box
California compliance car. Must have an ev to sell cars in CA.
@Stephen Graham So would a second hand Nissan Leaf and it would cost a lot less.
@@barrierodliffe4155 And look 10x uglier...
@@barrierodliffe4155these Mazdas are same price as a used leaf
nice car, shame about the range and the charging
That range is a real deal breaker. I'd get the E-Niro over that.
As a single man that does not commute very far, and also has a dog, I find it to be very practical.... You can pick one up for about 14000 now.... Mazda makes a good car.
Mazda is a brand where passengers are an afterthought. Fellow Mazda owner here 😁.
can you open the rear windows? no you can't, but i would still buy it when the REX version is for sale.....
I wonder if there's someone at Mazda thinking, Why aren't we selling as many of those MX-30s?
What a dreadful attempt at an EV. What are they thinking.
Mazda has done some cool sh*t over the years. This is a thorough disappointment.
Mazda has been killing it latley........ This isn’t one of them.
100%
Agreed. I love Mazda and electric cars, but I would not buy this. Hopefully the next version is better 🤞
Should have started the review with the range..
What range?
One of the best reviews I've seen for a while. Really excellent and honest assessment of the pros and cons. The range extender model will be of very great interest, if they can also up the power a bit to get 0-62 in, say, 8 seconds. That would mean fun driving for the 90% of journeys under 125 miles and then no worries beyond that - just keep topping up with fuel and you can go to the south of France!! Personally I can live with the doors :)
Great car as a second car for us that live 20 miles outside the city. Better quality and equipment then many other cars in the same price range, since the smaller battery. We don't need more range, I prefer that instead of a bigger battery that we don't have any need for.
I think it's great thinking with low range EV for those who don't need more then 50-60 miles (or less) per day, just as they make ICE cars with less Hp fore those who don't need an every day car that do 0-60 in 6 seconds and 250km/h top speed.
Completely agree Martin! We drive less than 60 km a day, so this will work great for us. We test drove one a little while ago, and liked it so much that we ordered one! Will arrive in July. The top trim Cosmo with so much equipment, and it handles really well in corners and over speed bumps! Mazda has done a great job 👍 Great to hear that you are satisfied with it. Tjena från Norge!
@@TheDannyWinther we bought a used one (cosmo) that we got get in 2 weeks, with only 7000km on it (that 3 month driving for us), and after 4 weeks we have nearly 2000km in it, and 150km on the diesel in the same time. We save alot on gas, and it is so nice to drive.
Tjena tillbaks ifrån Sverige!
@@exomnius We have been talking about buying an EV for a while, but with the latest crisis and gas prices of about 22-24 NOK/L we decided to go electric. Will indeed save a lot on gas, services, toll and insurance! 7000 km is not bad, almost a new car 👍 How is the Bose sound system?! Is it as good as I hope? I am a huge Bose fan, have many of their products 😉
@@TheDannyWinther same here, we did the math and realize we get a new car for free basicly.
The Bose system is very nice
Subscribed! Is there room in the back for a toddler booster seat?
It’s a good looking car but it doesn’t have enough range or AWD. I certainly don’t want to make extra stops to charge this car especially without AWD when I’m either in or about to be in a snow storm. This is primarily a city car but it snows in the city too and I may have to travel on unplowed streets. I hear Mazda intends to add a rotary engine as a range extender. But it doesn’t appear that that the rotary engine will connect to the drive wheels. Consequently, Mazda is simply spinning off a plug in gas/electric hybrid.
21/22 cars now down to £15k/£16k due to range issues. Could work well as a local runabout
even less now, seems like decent value
Can get a 2 year old one with 10k miles now for 12 grand
We have a premium trim '22 and i can't get enough of driving this car. It has the mazda fun factor, build quality is impeccable, it feels more upscale than my "luxury" car, it's such a well done, lovely car. Also so technological with loads of features as well. The range is comical though. Since they recommend using it in the 20-80 range, the ACTUAL
range is 60 miles and even lower if u have fun with it and drive in spirit. It's such a shame. Could have been absolutely perfect.
My Rx8 had these rear doors. Didn't bother me at all.
Why is the rear seats always cramped when people review mazdas?
I honestly admire Mazda as a manufacturer but I am at a loss to understand the marketing plan behind this product? It's configuration just won't appeal to a lot of buyers due to the passenger access to the back seats. BWW tried this with the i3 to mixed results, and the RX-7 was a sports car so no one was expected to use the back seats anyway. Also the range on this model is just not competitive with other EV products now on the road. Mazda does interiors and handling really well so there is that but it is still not enough to be what I believe will be a strong seller for them. They would have been better off to have kept the CX-30 body, 4-doors and bumped up the battery range to at least 200 miles before introducing this to the general public. Better yet, bring out a Mazda 5 EV! Loved that design.
The idea is to enter the rear from the curbside, there is a tab/pull on the front passenger seat.
Such a stupid idea, you have to open the front door first so a rear seat passenger can get in or out
@@barrierodliffe4155 At least it's nice to drive, unlike the MG...
@@TheDannyWinther If you want a car to not go anywhere except to the shops then it might be nice for you, any car can be fun if you know how to drive. I have driven many cars and a Lotus is fun, any of the MG's I have driven from a 1930 MG M Type right through 1950's, 1960's, 1970's and 1980's is fun, the MG ZS i s very nice to drive, I would not call it fun like a Mini Cooper but it is fine for those who want a good family car and want to go somewhere.
@@barrierodliffe4155 The MG is not British anymore, they have been bought by the Chinese. Did you not know? I test drove the ZS EV, and It handled nowhere as good as the MX-30 imo. And like I said I rarely drive more than 50 km a day, so I don't see your fictional "problem".
This car will only make sense once the rotary range extender engine is fitted. Either way, always go full electric.
Full electric car range is still too poor at the moment to suit everybody.
If (as it is for me) a semi-regular journey is: 200 miles/ Stay overnight somewhere with no charger/ 200 miles home, then the current crop of full electric cars are nowhere near good enough to do that journey without wasting a lot of time at a soul-destroying service station. And I more frequently do 70+ mile daily journeys (again with no charger at destination) which is beyond the range of conventional PHEVs.
But yes - the medium-battery-plus-rotary-range-extender drivetrain would suit me and I'd be full electric almost all the time, without lugging around the dead weight of a huge battery which most days I wouldn't use. (Admittedly there'll be a little weight in the rotary engine + generator but I bet it'll be quite compact/light compared to an extra 200kg of battery or whatever.)
I just wish they'd put that drivetrain into a more practical body without the stupid doors.
Lockdown becomes a lot easier to implement if they just shut off the electric. Hard pass. I’ll keep the CX-9. My third row is more comfortable and has more headroom than the rear seats in this vehicle do.
You enjoy sitting in motorway services then?
@@davidy7004 Exactly this. I loved my i3 with REx (30K miles, but £76 of petrol used), but preferred the build of the Maxda CX-5. Put a REx on this (I know they plan to), lose the suicide doors and remove the stupid internal artificial engine noise and I would buy one.
@@slhslh9038 I think I could even cope with artificial engine noise. It's the doors which will probably be a deal-breaker for me.
Thank you for your honest reviews. Keep up the good work.
The arm rest looks non existent..wish they had kept same design as mazda 3 with comfy arm rests at same height left and right.
Perfect second car, really good to drive. Interior stylish, comfortable. I will buy it.
What will happen when you close the Driver door first, then you close the rear door?
It won’t close.
@@afcgeo882 Thanx for that. So the Front door won't close, unless the Rear door is closed first then. So there is some kind of Mechanical Interlock to prevent this?
@@mrlintonious The latch for the front door, that would normally be in the B pillar, is in the rear door and it only locks if the front door slides into it from the outside, not inside. Ever check out a van’s doors? It’s the same.
And that means that if you enter through the passenger side in the back and there isn't someone sitting in front of you, then you can't close both doors from the inside. What an impractical design, they need to go back to the drawing board with this one.
@@BenjaminRodriguezReyes Yes... and it’s not new either. In North America there have been a few vehicles with that design already and no one liked it: Honda Element (a 100% American Honda), Saturn SC coupe, and various pick-ups. Pick-up trucks sort of work as the space behind is considered more for utility than passengers. If you regularly have passengers then you’d get a “crew cab” proper 4-door version.
Just test drove one, was great but was kind of concerning that I used 20% of the battery on a city to small village and back again... averaging 3.1kw per mile... just wish it had WLTP of like 180 ish ... / having a 45kwh battery vs a 35kwh battery and they don't tell you if that's total or useable
sounds very honest review. Thanks a lot
The new version shd be interesting but.. I live in Thailand where Mazda take up to 3 yrs to bring new models to market with no info for waiting potential buyers
Cork!! How long is that going to last?
My mother has got some cork coasters she got as wedding present 40 years ago 😂
Mazda purposely mad the range short because they are playing it safe with the EV market which is very smart Mazda. This will only be their entry level EV because they plan to make many more electric models. How many of you make trips over 100 miles daily. Honda has done the same with their E model and only made the max range 140 miles.
So your final verdict this car is better than ID.3, right?
I think in mere future on same car we can update with stronger batteries from Dealership Mazda same size but of high capacity
When he said the range I stopped watching. Until then I was about to book a test drive.
I find it hedious and it really is so behind the KIA/Hyundai models. Japanese electric cars have a long way to go. They spent way more time than everyone else sleeping on the hybrid wagon...
havnt you noticed? I mean they always sleep cause they want to perfect whatever it is they are building.. Unlike tesla, or vw who let out infotainment screens which don't work and fix them along the way. Me i personally prefer the slightly outdated but working tech. But i guess being a test dummy has its, appeal
The range makes this car pointless. Might as well get a Smart Four Two electric if you want something with limited range round town.
I wish there was less plastic. When does the hybrid release?
It's a great looking car. Shame about the range which is extremely poor.
Yeah, have no idea what the heck is Mazda thinking by putting a small battery pack.
Great video thank you for sharing. I think it is good for a couple without kids
Just seen this car. NEW EUV OWNER. RATHER GET A BOLT EUV.
I see a lot of complaining people in the comments, and I don't get it, I tried this car and it's comfortable to drive, it's beautiful and it's the best "city car" I tried, in my opinion.
I think it’s great if you live in a city with a home to charge overnight. But with only 100 miles on a full charge it would be difficult to maintain having to go to the charging station a few times a week.
@@4000Wiggins But in my case, I´m just driving less than 250 miles per month, for me is perfect choice, it´s less than 3 times to charge per month.
I think this could be a great car if the price is right. It's very similar to the now discontinued BMW i3 (which I own). There is a lot of nit-picking going on here, but of the top two issues for me would be a leather seating option as those recycled fabric seats stain very easily. The second would be the range which might have been already addressed with the introduction of their hybrid option. All around the MX-30 could be a great option for folks interested in an EV cruiser.
actually im liking the car... i'd like to have one .. with fixed full sized moonRoof .. maybe that would compensate for the small rare windows...
Typical of Mazda. They pontificate for so long to join in the EV bandwagon, and then decided to do a half-baked product to test the water!
It’s not half-baked. It’s just quirky and different - with a small range some of us can live with. I bet it’s not as expensive as the other EV’s to insure either.
Reminds me a lot of my late BMW i3. The rotary dial controls, use of recycled materials, and the suicide doors are all straight lifted from the i3. Along with the upcoming model that will have a gas range extender.
Some time ago a French plane maker failed by making a short range airliner for internal flights. Airlines wanted a plane that did both long and short flights. This car will fail because of the short range. Mazdas argument is that most journeys are less than 100 miles. Correct but there are times when you want to go further so you either buy another car or hire one? It's an expensive car to have to do that. So people will go for longer range. Big mistake to make and Mazda can only save it by making a long range model.
I know nothing about electric cars but how long would it take to charge after it runs out? Does it mean that on a journey you'd have to charge it for 3 hrs or more before you could carry on?
Pretty much 1 hour driving then 3 hours charging. Not quite that bad but not far off.
@@barrierodliffe4155 More like 2-3 hour driving, 45 min charging (depending on the speed and temperature)
@@TheDannyWinther Most peole do not drive at 30 to 40 kmh, I know you do and you have admitted to only driving very short distances, even the Mazda should charge to full inside 45 minutes after a 10 km drive.
@@barrierodliffe4155 You silly goose.. It charges from 10-80% in 40 minutes (actual tests), not 45 minutes after 10 km. And mixed driving is 220 km in summer, which includes highways. But keep trying, triggered troglodyte. Also, what is a peole?
It's all about quality. I just can not bring myself to buy a Chinese EV. The Japanese without doubt make the best quality reliable electronic products. Have done for decades. And there is nothing more electronic than a electric vehicle. There are so many horror stories about EVs. This I would trust to be reliable when the warranty runs out. Mazda has thought about this machine. I have a Mitsubishi I-miev and it has half the range of this. I know from experience that this range is enough for a city vehicle. I also don't want a 4 door family/geriatric/conservative vehicle. It's more practical than a 2 door. I think this is a good looking good design and high quality vehicle.
Car very interesting but rear doors and range are just insane, shame.
August 2024 or buy a pre reg for under 17k. If you really only do local trips that price must change the proposition especially if you have solar and batteries and owning an ev gets you a better rate for your electric.
Think 1999 Prius. Science experiment. 100 mile range? 2021?
I really wanted to like this car. The style, the shape and above all else, the usual classy, refined and upmarket feeling interior as always from recent Mazdas.....but the rear doors are just unacceptable for one thing. The battery range is frankly appalling when you consider smaller class cars have better range and the acceleration and top speed is just enough to ensure you'll never experience that thrill and confidence of pulling away from another car at the lights.
I'm currently looking to buy an EV but this MX-30 is not even in the running unfortunately.
What an embarrassing flop for Mazda.
hey, the steering wheel is on the wrong side!
What a pity, I have always liked Mazda, that range kills it.
The range is more than sufficient for the typical daily drive (in Europe). But you should able to charge at home.
@ , not for me, I drive 50km to work and often use my car during the day and then 50 km back home. I would have serious range anxiety.
@@davidcoro27 It does ~200 km in town and ~150 km on highway, so you would be fine.
Bigger battery makes everything more expensive, simple enough
In perfect conditions, I would rather have a car which can be relied on to do 200 km.
I too thought the range was bad, before my 24hr test drive.
To have a longer range all-electric you need a bigger battery: this car weighs 1,600kg which is lighter than most and handles well as a result.
It's not for everyone of course. For the mileage and journeys I do, I'd rather have a car that is fun to drive and well built and thought out. They forgot to mention the HUD, one of the best of all cars, not just in this segment.
The range extender version would make it so much more versatile, and appeal to a greater audience: it is rumoured to use a 300cc/30KW (or thereabouts) wankel motor that recharges the battery: on the occasional long trip (>200 miles) you can just fill up the petrol tank and get another 100 or so miles in less time it would take a fast charger (if you find one that is...).
For the next 5 years or so, as the electric car charging infrastructure improves, it makes sense.
The real negative point IMHO is the fast charging: it only supports up to a theoretical 50KWh, but not really, only charging at 30-40KWh, and the curve really tricle-charges past 60%: this car would have benefitted from 150KWh charging and a better charging curve. When will car reviewers actually test the cars they drive???
I test drove it for 24 hours, and despite what the review says, I did have it in max regen setting, and in town I was achieving well over >4miles/KWh average with the A/C on.
Plus it has a heat pump as standard (unlike some rivals) and if combined with heated seats and heated steering wheel, in the winter you can improve the range by turning down the heater.
Not for everyone: but this is a car that is really enjoyable to drive. Much better built than many rivals too.
I am sure Mazda will come up with many more all-electric models that will suit a wider audience.
Overweight for such a small battery. I do not understand how Mazda and Honda get it so wrong and some fools get taken in by them.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I know you think the MG is a better car, but that has nothing on the MX-30 in terms of quality, equipment, comfort and driving experience.
I know the MG is better, more room, more range, easier to get in and out, much more practical and not an overpriced short range car like the Mazda.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Let it go, honestly. MX-30 is not for you, it has its audience and fortunately or unfortunately you are not the one. Your frame of mind is stuck on the "short range" mantra. They never claimed this car will be suitable for all, "one size fits all" was not the goal for this EV.
@@oneclaydoll The MX 30 is not for many people, it lacks range, lacks performance, is not even light and there are better cars but if it is what you like then fine. Just one rather important point, it might work for a short commute to work but what if you want to go away at the weekend?
Think I'd go for an MG5, it's estate body and regular family styling means a good cheap all rounder with decent range. Ok so the brand isn't as plush when keeping up with the neighbours but for an Electric family car can you want more for the money?
@Stephen Graham small crossovers tend to be the domain of the young family buyer. Quite what classification this falls into is quite confusing, it doesn't seem to neatly fit any usual market.
The MG5 especially in long range Exclusive trim is very well kitted out and offers good range to boot for relatively little money compared to in some cases smaller EV's whether you have a family or are a motorway munching business/sales person
Love that it has physical controls. I hate the big tablet in the Tesla. I don't want to have to look at what i am pressing when I am driving.
Yet the Tesla has good range and looks and is a very good car, Mazda is late to the EV Market and think they can sell a car that would have been just about ok ten years ago.
The MX-30 is brilliant at doing what it is supposed to do, and Mazda is very explicit on what it is and isn't supposed to do. For sure, Mazda is not scamming potential buyers into thinking otherwise.
It is not brilliant at doing what it is not supposed to do, obviously. It is for certain scenarios and not for others.
It is impossible to decide what is brilliant or terrible without considering a scenario (I think this is the point of the video), as if it was possible to ask in absolute terms which is better between an open top roadster and a 4-wheels drive pickup... well, what are You gonna do, have fun driving during the weekend or moving hay bales off road to the horses up the hill? Is the MX-5 a brilliant family car, when Your family is 2 grandpas, 2 grandma, wife and four children? Is the Dodge Ram a brilliant city car, when Your city center is built as old European villages are and You are wondering how even horses could have moved through that 'road' (the answer is 'donkeys', of course)?
The MX-30 is designed with commuting in mind. Within its scope of intended use, it is brilliant, efficient, and with a favorable ratio of quality to cost.
This is not a given achievement, there are things around that are not good at doing what they are supposed to do, but the MX-30 is not among them.
This is a car for conscious buyers who are aware that their use will fit with the design, which is what all buyers should be.
PS: the 'freestyle' doors have pros and cons. Most reviews will list the evident cons (You need to open the front doors before the rear doors, etc.), but often will stop the pros list at 'style' or 'look'. There are practical pros in the design, though.
This car is a crossover coupé, and once its design is fixed You have three options: no back doors, front hinged back doors, rear hinged back doors with or without the central pillar. The solution that maximizes the accessibility is the rear hinged back doors without the central pillar. It is in principle a trade off with the need to open the front doors first, but that is not at a disadvantage with the no-back-doors solution, while offering quite a more comfortable access to the back. Respect to the standard front hinged doors, my experience with cars that have a similar design of the rear compartment is that they can be surprisingly uncomfortable to move through, really cramped. The MX-30 avoids this problem.
Sorry, but do you hear yourself? Honestly? You know it’s 2021, right? There are FAR better EVs on the market at this price range. EVs that give you more range, more car, a better interior and without the minuses. By the way, a front-hinged rear door would have made it FAR easier to get in and out, even in this shape car. Look at the Toyota CH-R for example. Easier to use, more practical and more comfortable.
@@afcgeo882 I have no problem if we disagree.
If You want to consider my argument, then it is that any car (actually any thing) is judged by what we want to do with it, that in choosing our tools we should consider what they are designed for and their actual capacity resulting from those design choices.
This is no excuse for poor design, of course. But poor design is quite different than being designed for a certain use, and thus being poor for other, not intended, uses.
For instance, if the MX-30 limited range was the result of poor efficiency in comparison with the competition, it would be a minus. But instead it has limited range because they made the decision to put on it a small battery which they assessed to give enough range for the intended use. This is a choice that might or might not fit Your needs, but it is not bad execution, per se.
I think that we would agree that the choice on the range of a diesel car or of an EV are very different. If there is space there are not a lot of cons to increase the capacity of a plastic fuel tank, but for an EV a battery twice or thrice the size has a significant impact on the consumption of resources and their recycling impact at the end of life.
So, for what are we requiring larger batteries? Again, it is a matter of the scenario of intended use, if the extra battery is not going to be used in that scenario, it is only dead weight to bring along worsening the efficiency, etc.
It is not necessary to agree with Mazda, but is it true that today's batteries have a huge life cycle impact? Yes. Is it true that they weight a lot? Yes. Is it true that for a 100 km per day commuting, 250 days per year, recharging at home during the night, or a 200 km commuting, if You can recharge both at home and at work, this car have You covered with its small battery? Yes. Is it true that if You need to travel 500 km or more regularly, this is definitely NOT the car You need? Yes.
You can make similar considerations for speed and acceleration, do You need more than 140 km/h top speed? Do You need to go 0-100 km/h in 3 seconds? Then this is not the car for You. If You don't need those performances, do You need the more powerful, more heavy, more power hungry engines that they require? No, You don't.
I don't know how this car is priced in Your country respect to other models, so I can't comment on that. Here in Italy it is very competitively priced. Of course, having smaller batteries helps there too. And we do want to pay less if it has smaller batteries and less powerful engines, independently of Mazda design choices.
The interiors are good, very good for the price, then it is a preference of styles. I really like the displays and control layout, as my preferences are against the distracting "touchy" mess of some other cars.
I have not tried the C-HR back compartment, but it looks that they managed a good design of the very large doors (relatively to the size of the back of the car), it seems a good example. The MX-30 achieves a comfortable access and exit with smaller doors, thanks to the fact that they are rear hinged, but it is true that smaller doors are not necessarily a plus for us. It is still a lot better than the similar cars I actually tried, I'm thinking some DS models.
I would put a critic on the fact that the chassis is not optimized for an electric car, in the sense that the car just don't need the whole size of its front (in the EV configuration at least), and it might be (?) heavier than it needs to be. But I like the design of the car, and they would need to change it to "fix" that.
Also, the use of the internal space for the given volume is not the best overall, but the best overall is not a crossover coupé, it's a Fiat Stilo SW or a Fiat Multipla, and even Fiat stopped producing those, or a van... for what it is, I find it is good.
Remember, it is not a family car. But You can have children seats in the back, and You'll discover that those rear hinged doors are good when You have to put children in and fasten their belts, as the rear hinged doors don't cut Your access/exit route.
In a parking lot there is a limitation resulting from the need to open the front door enough to allow the opening of the rear door, while having the passenger fitting in the space left by the front door. It is a cumbersome maneuver, and even more so when we are not used to it. I was surprised that I didn't need more than 60 cm of space to do it, which is just the space needed to avoid interference between the doors, and not more than I would need to enter conventional doors. I am slim, though.
@@ThePinkus Oh I see now... you just like to talk, even when you have nothing to say. You’re literally making all these things up just to seem smart.
The simple fact is that the Nissan Leaf and the Hyundai products are better sized, more roomy, have better range, better performance and better technology than this car, all at the same, competitive price and none of your fantasy supports your claims. Oh and putting in a child seat through those doors is FAR more difficult than with rear hinged doors (clearly you haven’t done either) as the latches are all the way in the seat.
@Stephen Graham most people buy car based on practicality, few people buy for status (luxury) , very few buy to have fun ( aka performance super cars) .
This car is neither practical ( for the price) , nor a status symbol, or fun to drive ( 0-60 in 9 plus seconds? For electric)? I see this car is not selling more than 5k units in a year , if they are lucky.
@Stephen Graham Well put! 👏
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Two key takeaways on this video, the mazda mx 30 is a very quirky ev and you really do not like the VW id.3
I’ll go with the terrible
I kind of like what mazda is doing, this is the electric version of the gas car you buy for work and day to day driving. So you dont have to put many miles on your dream car in the garage. Definitely not the car you buy if you have a family and you can only afford one car, but it is perfect for someone who wants a work horse so they can keep the other car looking pretty.
If that is all you want buy an old Nissan Leaf and save money to spend on a Hyundai Ioniq or Tesla 3
@@barrierodliffe4155 Some people actually like to also look at the car they're driving. People with a sense of aesthetics, don't drive a Leaf...
@@TheDannyWinther This Barrie guy has difficulty processing information that Mazda did not make this car to fit HIS needs, he just could not let it go😄 . Bless his little cotton socks.
@@TheDannyWinther Some people do not look at the car they are driving, they are actually driving. Again I would prefer a Leaf or Ora Cat or Neo or many other much nicer and better cars than the noddy little Mazda.
@@oneclaydoll Haha, I know right? He can't stand that some people actually likes this car. The irony is that he is in love with a Chinese noddy car known as the MG ZS 😅 Bless his troglodyte mind.
Great review...
i think the range is not bad for a second car. I would never take any ev on a long trip anyway. Even with 400 km range. I mean the range anxiety, the chargers potentially being taken. The trip might take forever. And if you go fast enough you can make the range decrease the range 2x if you use heat or go above 130. I mean small city evs make sense atm. i think
Managed 300 mile trips through the Scottish highlands (middle of nowhere) with my 1st generation BMW i3 without a problem. It really isn’t that big of a deal once you give it a chance.
@@DarcersTech I agree it is possible for sure to live with an EV. And I certainly applaud those who do. But yea I think 95 percent of my journeys daily dont take more than 200km. So this car would suit me well. But for road trips id like a car I wouldn't have to stress about. THere are plenty of remote places id be scared to go to with an EV. I might even replace my cx3 with this mx30 as our family uses it solely for the city. :)))
I saw a video by two people who took two similar cars, one electric and one petrol on an 800 km trip.The electric car had to go off the highway to charge yet it only took about40 minutes longer. The petrol car took over 9 hours.
These days range anxiety is a myth, the last couple of times had range anxiety was in petrol vehicles.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I am still not convicned. I mean im guessing they were going around 100 km/h or something? In a petrol car you can go as fast as 130-200km/h without range anxiety. (where such speed limit is legal). Being able, to drive fast and far without much planning or worrying has been something we take for granted. With electric cars its not possible. You can justify yourself that you need coffee breaks and you can charge then but in reality one with a petrol car can also have that luxury if he chooses. Difference is he doesn't have to. I love driving electric cars for sure I am just saying they are simply not as convenient as pump and go in 5 min for 800km.
@@metoo3773 It would depend on the speed limit, how often can you do 200 km? In France on a highway heading towards Paris there was a 130 kmh speed limit which reduced to 110 kmh and then to 90 kmh, I did suffer range anxiety in the Toyota I was driving, in New Zealand the maximum open road speed limit is 100 kmh, in USA I have mostly seen 70 mph or about 110 kmh. Australia 100 kmh or 110 kmh.
I doubt there are any petrol or diesel cars that can do 200 kmh for 800 kms, range goes down with speed once you go over 100 kmh. I drive a route of 500 kms and I stop at least three times, I usually drive the first 140 kms which I have done in 1 1/2 hours since it involves a lot of winding road and a bit of climbing, at that point I am ready for a break, remember the 1 1/2 hours I have done twice, once in a BMW, the other time in an MG Montego, I have driven the same route in Toyota, Nissan and Mazda and they have taken longer, probably about 1 3/4 hours. The range anxiety I have encountered in Mazda and Nissan on the return since the last 140 kmh there is only one garage and it is not always open, I have topped up with a 1/4 tank which should be enough to get home but are you going to say that you have never stopped for fuel when the tank had less than a 1/4 left? The test I mentioned was in Australia so they would have been doing about 100 kmh and both cars would have to stop at least once, the cars were from memory both Hyundai, being the same car but one the Kona EV and the other the petrol version, I believe the EV had to stop three times, the petrol just once for fuel but two of the stops for the EV were quite short, the petrol car driver had to stop at least three times so even if he had a range of 800 kms which he didn't he would still have to stop for food or a quick break. I have timed my journeys in petrol cars for this very reason and as long as I can do 160 kms realistic range which means stopping to charge at 20 % or so and maybe only charging to 80 % I could manage quite well without long stops, there are enough charging locations now to make it quite realistic, there are EV's which can top 300 kms quite easily.
I like the idea of a small electric box for low range daily use, and this car looks beautiful. but the price makes it a head scratcher.
Mmmm 🤔
Next to no range? I thought I’d click on to read the comments. I wasn’t disappointed. What were Mazda thinking?
In the same way that the Honda e and Mini Electric have deliberately small batteries, Mazda claim it is to provide better handling for what is, after all, being marketed as an urban runaround, plus why it is so relatively inexpensive.
But, yes, a 'real-world' range of sub-100 miles makes it a tough sell...!
It's actually a great second car for local runs and seems to be designed specifically for that purpose, also with respect to performance characteristics. More importantly, it makes more sense than small cars where manufacturers desperately try to fit in as big as possible batteries that add unnecessary weight, which nobody talks about. Weight means more tyre wear, more particular emissions, more road damage. We'll see small, mid-size electric cars with well over 2 ton curb weight around, and electric SUVs approaching 3 tons. Mazda's way makes sense to me, similar to Honda's.
A tiny 35KW batterie will have to be DEEP CYCLED EVERY day........The quickest way to wreak any batterie......Paul
For the same price as other electric cars without laughable range. Brilliant!
@@stuffluster Lol! In which EV do you get all the equipment you get with the MX-30 Cosmo for €26k?! Sure, it doesn't have great range, but most people don't need 300+ km daily 👍
@@paulholterhaus7084 Hey Paul. It wouldn't need to be deep cycled every day, if you don't even drive close to 200 km a day, now does it?
@@TheDannyWinther this is a crappy car nobody wants and represents a lazy brand damaging effort by Mazda
You mean if I drive more than 100 miles even one time in this car's life, I shouldn't buy it? As if there are no other options for long journeys, which frankly most of us take very rarely. But 50 to 100 mile journeys are an almost daily occurrence. Our outdated expectation for driving range is one of the biggest hurdles to widespread EV adoption, and dogmatic reviews like this only reinforce that mental block.
There are much better cars with good range, why pay too much for too little?
@@barrierodliffe4155 It is too much money, I'm saying it's not too little range. It covers 90% of people's driving needs on one charge. The range is far less than what we're used to, yet it's still as much as we need in most cases.
Is that the 'ceramic metallic' colour or 'white'
This has dropped in value like a rock as 2nd hand. Given the positives it would be great as family's daily commuter car (2nd car) if you can charge at home.
What if you want to get into the back alone, do the front doors stay opened?
Why would you do that?
@@Steve-gc5nt I mean I am first to walk to the car and I will be sitting in the back of the car. The driver will come in 10 minutes and it's raining outside.
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Jeeez what range is that? How people are driving these on the street? :O
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The best video review ever
Nothing he metioned there is deal breaker, the only real problem is the very limited range :(
What were they thinking..?
No fully electric car should be doing less than 300 miles per charge that should be the benchmark! Which for me is a real shame as this car is one unique looker! They still kept the front grill as it looks stupid on other cars with no grill... I think the top middle screen didnt need to be there and the middle one should be the top main one...
I would settle for 200 miles range but that rules out the Mazda, 100 miles or less is no good for me, this might have worked ten years ago but now?