The dude was playing a lot of hands, having a good time, bringing action to the game. He was an obvious rec who made a mistake...chop was a legit and classy move for that specific player. I think most people learn a lesson from positivity not negativity. Just my opinion. Thanks for the story Lex!
I would say a chop makes sense if it made the dude happy, but he was still annoyed that he should have the whole pot. It'd be different if his cards were recoverable, or he'd flashed them to someone on the table. I'd probably just give the guy a rebate of a few hundred, it's the qualitatively the same as a chop...more than he deserves and less than he wants.
Classy move Lex, chop was the best deal. It’s hard for me to believe someone playing 5/10 doesn’t know to show his hand. Thanks for the content and hope the run good keeps coming ur way!
You did the right thing. Not the easy thing or the right thing BY THE RULES..but you showed sportsmanship and integrity. You’re the man! I would have done the same.
Solid by you. Trust your instincts. Consistent winning and profitable. A chop is not a issue for a true pro to that type of player. A farmer knows you don’t shoot the cows, you milk them. The return in massive respect by the “pro” community and value of your reputation is priceless. Sometimes that type of decision helps encourage newer players to come back or come out and play. Otherwise the tables are full of farmers with no cows to milk. GL friend
You the man!! Great story! You can sleep at night because you did the right thing. Loved it ans that’s one of the reasons I love watching your videos you are not only a great player but a great human!
Tbh I watch your content but not as much as other streamers. After this I will be supporting more, you can tell when someone is genuine and I appreciate the dialogue! Good luck this year Lexo
If your read is that this is "never" an angle (and I doubt it was) then either chop the pot or give him his last bet back. Nobody could fault you for keeping the whole pot, but particularly as a pro and ambassador for the game, showing some leniency here is the gracious thing to do.👍
1. You said he's good - he can turn over his hand and win 2. You turned over A high - he can turn over a better hand and win 3. You can turn over anything - he can muck and lose
I love you brother. Your such a stand up guy. Never let anyone compromise your integrity. We are supposed to treat others as we want to be treated. With that being said no matter what you decided to do I know you are going to do what you feel is right in your heart and that's all we can ask of you.
Lesson learned. I am very much down for the classy move. I play with a guy who will claim a hand he doesn't have, like "Straight" or "Set, " before showing his cards, hoping that someone will muck their winning hand. What a tool. We were all new at some point playing poker, you did right here. You helped him learn a lesson and he will probably never make that mistake again. I had a situation where I bluffed and when she called I said "Do you have a straight?" She thought I said I had a straight and mucked her hand (See the jerk lines above). She mucked her cards saying she had a set. She called a large bluff on the river and misheard what I said. I did what you did and chopped the pot. Way to keep the game, classy sir! First time watching. I go to Florida on occasion, it would be nice to play poker with you someday!
If someone miscalls their hand knowingly at any place I play, they will be kicked out at least for the day if not permanently banned. That's a horrible angle shoot and a big no-no
On the fence about this one. I've taught poker etiquette to a lot of new players and tell them when it comes to the showdown you have one thing to do and one only - turn your cards over immediately. Lex was called and didn't do that; he said "You're good" twice. The rec player had three options at that point: 1. Tell Lex he's called his bet and ask him to show his cards. 2. Turn his own cards over 3. Ask Lex or the dealer - is that a muck? If Lex or the dealer said yes, then he takes the pot without showing He should not muck his hand without doing one of those things, yet he did! In Lex's position I would've immediately turned my cards ove, and we would have known if he had a pair or not. While it's highly unlikely he would have hero-called with nothing better than AT, the fact remains he mucked his hand without showing anyone, and on that basis I believe Lex gets the whole pot. No chop, expensive but very valuable lesson.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me and that’s fine, but if I was in your shoes, I would’ve done the exact same thing, and I have a lot of respect for you for doing exactly what you did by chopping that pot!
Classy move Lex. I would have had to get a visual of the 8's to give him any of it. The rules that remain the same from casino to casino, I dont have any give on no matter what confusion there is. If you're comfortable enough w the game that you are risking the money, it's on you to know the universal rules. Many dealers would not let me reach into the muck to turn his cards over (as they are told not to allow it) so if they stop me from doing so, I am walking with the pot. That said, I don't play $5-$10 but 3-5 times a year and I am not as invested in rep. You're a smart and kind hearted guy.
Bruh you classy asf. Chop was the most fair thing to do, so kind of you to consider the Rec player coz I for sure could’ve been one of them having those mistakes LOL. Good job man 👍🏻
I just show when I bluff so it saves time and forces them to show. I actually don’t like it when people say you’re good or something along those lines. I usually just sit there and wait for them to show anyway. That’s me tho. Love your shit Lex!
@@supersmoo7377 If they don’t show.. I wait for them to muck. You never throw your hand in the muck if you’re the winner. At all levels you have to show the winner.
I love that you include baby doggo Rohge in your videos! Doggos are better than people love us unconditionally even if we get mad at them for something that’s our own fault! Love your videos!
You certainly did the right thing specially the he was a recreational poker this will mean a lot to him. kudos to you !!!! that's why I like watching your videos and as I can see you're gaining a lot of progress. Good Luck
Same thing happened to me when I was new playing 1/2. I rivered a one card gutter with a jack with a pair of aces with AJ. Didn’t even see the straight. Opponent had AK I had AJ and folded thinking his two pair beat mine. I showed person next to me and threw cards into the muck and he was like you had a straight! I tried to grab my cards but the female dealer went off on me saying I can’t touch dead cards. I wish I would have got to chop that pot atleast. I respect the chop Lex, class move!
Lex - cool blogs - interesting situation w the tipsy reg. Totally familiar with the “you’re good” modus operandi and the reason for it. In Panama we say “me ganaste” which is “you win” lol. My take is his beer soaked mind got stuck at the perception that you had already relinquished your hand when you said “you’re good” - and even though he didn’t want to (or didn’t know he had to after your comment) show his hand - ONCE YOU DO SHOW, in a way that forces him to show a winning hand - and he didn’t. It IS somewhat weird, provided if you had decided to muck YOUR HAND FIRST after saying “you’re good”- he would have won the pot(which is something Ive seen half the time - players say you’re good and muck immediately)….nice gesture to chop pot.
I've mucked a winning hand and yes I didn't get anything from the opponent. I learned a big lesson. I probably wouldn't give anything to the opponent. Your bad for mucking bro
Your pure class for chopping it up. He had to show. Doesn't matter if you said your good. He didn't show. Not many people would do what you did. I've seen and experienced similar situations and no ones ever offered a chop
1) instead of saying "you're good " try saying "Ace high" . It still provides clarity to your opponent without giving useful info to the table. "Ace high " statement can be AK down to A2. It also doesn't reveal suits. Chopping pot was best decision IMO. 2) QQ was interesting hand, didn't like the way you played it tho. You seemed to hope UTG would do a limp reraise after your call but if he did where would that leave you? Also just calling here opens up the hand to being multi-multi way which we don't want of course. Another great vlog 👍.
Not sure how I feel about you raggin so hard on football then using a phrase like "Monday morning quarterback" lol but seriously, love your channel, been a fan forever. You are the only vlogger I'll recommend for others to check out. Keep it up!
I think you made the best choice. This guy will always remember that you acted like a great steward of the game and he'll want to continue playing the game and everybody else will also remember your choice that you made. Thanks for being a great guy.
What you did was the very nice thing to do, I wouldn't say it was the right thing. Either way, I don't hate what you did. Being kind and empathetic is always a good thing to do. The one thing that would've made me keep the pot, was no one ever saw his cards. If he had flashed them to me then mucked and the dealer pushed me the pot because he didn't table them, that would be different. It's nice that you gave him the BOD, kudos to you Lex
I agree with the chop decision. Ive been put in a similar spot before with newer players at a local game. Chopping is the best way to resolve it, doing more opens yourself up to angles, less is inconsiderate of the action being given to you.
I think you did the right thing. Clearly he messed it up but you should be generous with a rec player. Appreciate that you chopped it. It only shows that you are a person with integrity. Kudos to your action
I think you are right do the cop. I had something similar happened to me when I first started playing at the casino, but in my confusion and learning the process of the game the person I wasn't playing again gave me my $50 bet back. It was a good learning point, and a good way to build the pool of people playing
Two things…1) poker etiquette does exist at 1/2, 100%. It may not be as consistent as with higher stakes, but it’s certainly there. People don’t just learn poker etiquette once they get to 5/10 and higher. 2) It’s two pair, not two pairs (pair is already plural). That aside, I like your vlogs. Entertaining to watch and you seem like a good human. Cheers
That's crazy the same exact thing happened to me last night. A recreational player limped in middle position and I raise from the SB with AQ, the player calls and its a very dry runout. All three streets are checked through, and I had just won a similar hand against this player with K high, so I figured there's a very good chance my hand is good. After the river goes check check, I say " I have Ace high", he looks a little confused and after I turn over my hand he takes a second and mucks his cards. After the cards are already being shuffled he tells the player next to him that he a had a pair, he looked extremely embarrassed and confused. Luckily this was a very small pot and he handled it very well. But in my opinion if you sit down to play a game and you don't understand all of the rules, that is on you, and in your specific situation I think you should just keep the pot and not feel bad about it all. He mucked his cards, you win.
This is one of those times that I show no mercy, if you want to play poker then play poker, if you want to get drunk then do it away from the poker table. No mercy from me for a drunk on the road or at the poker table.
My thought was a chop would be nice but Mr Pocket 8s won't be happy with anything other than the whole pot. Glad you did chop, as opposed to ruining that guy's day, and I hope he was happy enough because, as mentioned, that was a great deal.
Good move on chopping it up and also waiting to reveal what you did at the end of the vlog as the watch time increased. Good move again on the chop. It was the gentlemen thing to do
Nah, you absolutely made the right call. Let’s encourage him to continue playing and not walk away thinking he got robbed. Good outcome for you as well. Well done Sir!
"But I had the best hand and you said I was good" is next level bluffing - good for him for getting that one through. In all seriousness, It's the dealer's job to control the game. When the rec protested, the dealer should have stepped in and explained. Poker is hard enough without having to pay for other peoples' mistakes. Keep the pot next time - you earned it.
Exactly. I don't buy for a second that the guy was unaware of what Lex said. This one is 100% on the dealer. That was your pot, as played. If Player X can't be bothered to follow the action and complete the hand, that's also on him.
As a for profit player, I wouldn't pay it back. I have a hard time believing what I can't see. That seems predatory but then again what are the odds I would get shown courtesy by the same player when a weird situation occurs. I deal with the players I know, unknown are just passing by in such games
I learned a lot of lessons the hard way in poker. I would have probably given him back his River call but part of me thinks "F it, thems the rules. Learn them before you put your dough on the table" and kept the whole damn thing. Bet he never forgets that rule again if you keep the pot
I watch you all the time Lex and you are extremely professional. You did nothing wrong. I'd definitely take the pot he shouldn't be playing without knowing that very basic rule.
Okay ~ I’m at 7:03 ~ what would I do? I have no clue, part of me says to chop it ~ that’s a fair compromise. Part of me says to keep it ~ well within the rules. I definitely don’t think giving him the entire pot is right ~ he made a large mistake despite whatever you said, you can’t win a pot without showing your cards if your heads up opponent shows… Edit: you chopped! I like that. On the “you’re good” comment, I completely agree with you.
I think that was honorable what u did with that gentleman I have alot respect for what u did. Good job lex I have watched all of your videos your one of the best keep it up
One time at Resorts World I made a Yahtzee reference and said "small straight" when I flipped over my cards at showdown. One guy mucked and then realized I had 4 to a straight. There actually wasn't even a possible straight out there. I ended up giving the whole pot to the deal because he said he mucked a pair.
Your agreeing to chop the pot was very generous Nice of you to do so I don’t agree with you on the matter of poker etiquette I play 1-3 up to 5-10 You may be correct in less issues with the higher stakes But as for etiquette, I find the higher steaks player to be much rudder If they take a bad beat or their bluffs get called light I often see complete meltdown v/s the lower stakes But really enjoy your vlog keep it up
@Lex O Poker sorry to be nosey but bein a Hawkeye I’m DYING to know your ties to ISU wearing the black clover hat at the end of the video! Not gonna lie the hat has a nice aesthetic 😂😁 might just have to send you the right version as a gift if you’re willing 😎
I like your vlogs, i like the way your adjusting with your content to the audience and i respect what you did. But… in my opinion a real hero thing to do was to give him that pot. U picked a mix between the rules and your personal kidness - cool. Cheers from Poland ;)
Good on you for chopping. If I was a TH-camr like you ida done that too. I will say you got lucky on that QQ hand but imo I would have 3 bet pre flop. Worked out great though. Your a pro ima rec but an action rec so I woulda been loosing my ass on that QQ run out. Love your content bro. Keep it up.
Lex, Let me start off saying I think you are a stand up guy. You are right about some of this. However when a player calls your bet and doesn't instantly turn up their cards. You, as the primary bettor has the obligation to turn over your cards first. If Player 1 bets and Player 2 calls, Player 1 should turn over their cards first unless Player 2 opts to turn over first. That being said after you turned over your cards it is the responsibility of every player to know and understand the rules of the game. In no game would Casino, Home, Card House, etc. will they side with the player that either accidently mucks their hand or inadvertently mucks their hand. I even saw where Player 1 thought they had a King in their hand and announced, Pair of Kings but didn't show right away. Then the other player mucks his cards, but the player didn't have Kings only had Queen, Jack thinking he had King Queen. The casino had them split the pot and the player was issued a warning. They then told the player that it was his responsibility to protect his hand. In this. I'm not in favor of people who are drunk at the table playing. 1 They are sloppy, 2 they are slow, 3 they never pay attention, 4 in some cases are rude and obnoxious. I would like to see the casino take the responsibility to remove drunk players from the game for their own protection as well as other players. Of course this is my opinion and splitting the pot would nice thing to do but in now way necessary. He would have learned an expensive lesson, one I'm sure he would repeat.
Thanks Lex love watching your Vlogs and I always Learn something new. One thing I would like to learn from you is that what do you do when you go card dead. ? Do you just keep folding or do you play aggressively ( which I think is a bad idea especially ) when you are card dead and not hitting the board
When you started the story, I thought it was going to be that you said, “you’re good,” and then he mucked straight away thinking that that meant you already conceded the pot. If that were the case, you should even consider giving the whole pot for the accidental angle. But that’s not what happened. You did (eventually) table your hand, and he never tabled his. It is possible that he actually called you down with a worse A high. You have no way of knowing he’s not lying. So I’d probably just give him the river action back and not chop the whole pot. I’m not a fan of saying “you’re good” twice, especially against a rec. If he doesn’t react, you should just table your hand.
Definitely classy move. I might have given the river bet back, but prob not chopping the pot. If he held them up before mucking or something to where I caught a glipse but he didn't technically "table" them (which has happened to me), then I chop for sure. Discount vs drinking rec definitely in order, just think a chop was generous. But good for you.
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The dude was playing a lot of hands, having a good time, bringing action to the game. He was an obvious rec who made a mistake...chop was a legit and classy move for that specific player. I think most people learn a lesson from positivity not negativity. Just my opinion. Thanks for the story Lex!
I would say a chop makes sense if it made the dude happy, but he was still annoyed that he should have the whole pot. It'd be different if his cards were recoverable, or he'd flashed them to someone on the table. I'd probably just give the guy a rebate of a few hundred, it's the qualitatively the same as a chop...more than he deserves and less than he wants.
@@redtailedhawk663 -Even if he’s a rec player, he’s got to know that the cards talk in poker, not the players.
"I don't want to play in games if they're not profitable" he said right after coming back from the blackjack table. :D
lol!
Classy move Lex, chop was the best deal. It’s hard for me to believe someone playing 5/10 doesn’t know to show his hand. Thanks for the content and hope the run good keeps coming ur way!
LexO you are a legend and a classy move to chop it up. Enjoy your vlogs!
You did the right thing. Not the easy thing or the right thing BY THE RULES..but you showed sportsmanship and integrity. You’re the man! I would have done the same.
That was the most interesting poker story I have ever heard. Really admire your act!!
Solid by you. Trust your instincts. Consistent winning and profitable. A chop is not a issue for a true pro to that type of player. A farmer knows you don’t shoot the cows, you milk them. The return in massive respect by the “pro” community and value of your reputation is priceless. Sometimes that type of decision helps encourage newer players to come back or come out and play. Otherwise the tables are full of farmers with no cows to milk. GL friend
You the man!! Great story! You can sleep at night because you did the right thing. Loved it ans that’s one of the reasons I love watching your videos you are not only a great player but a great human!
Lex O you handled this perfect! The other player both, had a consequence and was taught a lesson through kindness. Keep posting Lex O, we're watching!
Tbh I watch your content but not as much as other streamers. After this I will be supporting more, you can tell when someone is genuine and I appreciate the dialogue! Good luck this year Lexo
You were more than fair. It was the right thing to do .That's why I watch your videos, true professional
If your read is that this is "never" an angle (and I doubt it was) then either chop the pot or give him his last bet back. Nobody could fault you for keeping the whole pot, but particularly as a pro and ambassador for the game, showing some leniency here is the gracious thing to do.👍
1. You said he's good - he can turn over his hand and win
2. You turned over A high - he can turn over a better hand and win
3. You can turn over anything - he can muck and lose
You're a classy guy Lex. Don't think I would have been so kind. His mistake not yours. Extremely generous to chop it.
I love you brother. Your such a stand up guy. Never let anyone compromise your integrity. We are supposed to treat others as we want to be treated. With that being said no matter what you decided to do I know you are going to do what you feel is right in your heart and that's all we can ask of you.
Lesson learned. I am very much down for the classy move. I play with a guy who will claim a hand he doesn't have, like "Straight" or "Set, " before showing his cards, hoping that someone will muck their winning hand. What a tool. We were all new at some point playing poker, you did right here. You helped him learn a lesson and he will probably never make that mistake again. I had a situation where I bluffed and when she called I said "Do you have a straight?" She thought I said I had a straight and mucked her hand (See the jerk lines above). She mucked her cards saying she had a set. She called a large bluff on the river and misheard what I said. I did what you did and chopped the pot. Way to keep the game, classy sir! First time watching. I go to Florida on occasion, it would be nice to play poker with you someday!
On a side note, Garrett is also super classy but he took that J4O money back in a heartbeat. LOL🤣
If someone miscalls their hand knowingly at any place I play, they will be kicked out at least for the day if not permanently banned. That's a horrible angle shoot and a big no-no
On the fence about this one. I've taught poker etiquette to a lot of new players and tell them when it comes to the showdown you have one thing to do and one only - turn your cards over immediately. Lex was called and didn't do that; he said "You're good" twice. The rec player had three options at that point:
1. Tell Lex he's called his bet and ask him to show his cards.
2. Turn his own cards over
3. Ask Lex or the dealer - is that a muck? If Lex or the dealer said yes, then he takes the pot without showing
He should not muck his hand without doing one of those things, yet he did!
In Lex's position I would've immediately turned my cards ove, and we would have known if he had a pair or not. While it's highly unlikely he would have hero-called with nothing better than AT, the fact remains he mucked his hand without showing anyone, and on that basis I believe Lex gets the whole pot. No chop, expensive but very valuable lesson.
Love watching you play poker, cant stand watching you talk about your day or the hand I'm about to watch
I know a lot of people will disagree with me and that’s fine, but if I was in your shoes, I would’ve done the exact same thing, and I have a lot of respect for you for doing exactly what you did by chopping that pot!
Lesson is never say "you're good" it causes confusion. Just turn over your hand.
Classy move Lex. I would have had to get a visual of the 8's to give him any of it. The rules that remain the same from casino to casino, I dont have any give on no matter what confusion there is. If you're comfortable enough w the game that you are risking the money, it's on you to know the universal rules. Many dealers would not let me reach into the muck to turn his cards over (as they are told not to allow it) so if they stop me from doing so, I am walking with the pot. That said, I don't play $5-$10 but 3-5 times a year and I am not as invested in rep. You're a smart and kind hearted guy.
Bruh you classy asf. Chop was the most fair thing to do, so kind of you to consider the Rec player coz I for sure could’ve been one of them having those mistakes LOL. Good job man 👍🏻
I just show when I bluff so it saves time and forces them to show. I actually don’t like it when people say you’re good or something along those lines. I usually just sit there and wait for them to show anyway.
That’s me tho. Love your shit Lex!
So you’re a 1-2 player then.
@@supersmoo7377 If they don’t show.. I wait for them to muck. You never throw your hand in the muck if you’re the winner. At all levels you have to show the winner.
@@supersmoo7377 I’m in Texas, blinds are irrelevant
@@BB-re6nz He's referencing the stakes
I personally think it was a generous move - well done.
that was a very nice glassy move for him LexO! I don't think anybody would do the same as u
Great video as always!
The less you say the better off you are ! Your to generous ! Didn't owe him anything ! KUDOS !
I love that you include baby doggo Rohge in your videos! Doggos are better than people love us unconditionally even if we get mad at them for something that’s our own fault! Love your videos!
You certainly did the right thing specially the he was a recreational poker this will mean a lot to him. kudos to you !!!! that's why I like watching your videos and as I can see you're gaining a lot of progress. Good Luck
Same thing happened to me when I was new playing 1/2. I rivered a one card gutter with a jack with a pair of aces with AJ. Didn’t even see the straight. Opponent had AK I had AJ and folded thinking his two pair beat mine. I showed person next to me and threw cards into the muck and he was like you had a straight! I tried to grab my cards but the female dealer went off on me saying I can’t touch dead cards. I wish I would have got to chop that pot atleast. I respect the chop Lex, class move!
keep the pot. not your problem if he’s playing drunk and does not know the rules.
Lex, Great job, 'Class Act'! Keep up the positive energy and bring your classy demeanor to the poker room.
Classy move Lex. We say “you’re good” or “you got it” at our games in the same manner.
Always nice to see rogue in the intro and the guitar hotel in the outro. Class act of you to chop up the pot there Lex imo.
You are very good and honest man.
Lex - cool blogs - interesting situation w the tipsy reg. Totally familiar with the “you’re good” modus operandi and the reason for it. In Panama we say “me ganaste” which is “you win” lol. My take is his beer soaked mind got stuck at the perception that you had already relinquished your hand when you said “you’re good” - and even though he didn’t want to (or didn’t know he had to after your comment) show his hand - ONCE YOU DO SHOW, in a way that forces him to show a winning hand - and he didn’t. It IS somewhat weird, provided if you had decided to muck YOUR HAND FIRST after saying “you’re good”- he would have won the pot(which is something Ive seen half the time - players say you’re good and muck immediately)….nice gesture to chop pot.
Your subs will grow because your heart is massive.
Crush the tables, climb the stakes, make your mark! Great work Big L.
Class act to chop. Much respect!
You’re a much better person than me, cause I would have kept the pot 100% of the time!
How will he learn otherwise?
Same …I would keep the pot …,life lesson cost …. If he lost money this time he won’t make the same mistake again …
I've mucked a winning hand and yes I didn't get anything from the opponent. I learned a big lesson. I probably wouldn't give anything to the opponent. Your bad for mucking bro
Your pure class for chopping it up. He had to show. Doesn't matter if you said your good. He didn't show. Not many people would do what you did. I've seen and experienced similar situations and no ones ever offered a chop
You did the right thing. Thanks for sharing. My hats off to you.
1) instead of saying "you're good " try saying "Ace high" . It still provides clarity to your opponent without giving useful info to the table. "Ace high " statement can be AK down to A2. It also doesn't reveal suits.
Chopping pot was best decision IMO.
2) QQ was interesting hand, didn't like the way you played it tho. You seemed to hope UTG would do a limp reraise after your call but if he did where would that leave you? Also just calling here opens up the hand to being multi-multi way which we don't want of course.
Another great vlog 👍.
You did exactly the fair and right thing, Lex. Plus, the newbie got to learn a hard lesson for free. Good job!
Not sure how I feel about you raggin so hard on football then using a phrase like "Monday morning quarterback" lol but seriously, love your channel, been a fan forever. You are the only vlogger I'll recommend for others to check out. Keep it up!
Mostly people love dogs have kind hearts, Lex is so kind
I think you made the best choice. This guy will always remember that you acted like a great steward of the game and he'll want to continue playing the game and everybody else will also remember your choice that you made. Thanks for being a great guy.
What you did was the very nice thing to do, I wouldn't say it was the right thing. Either way, I don't hate what you did. Being kind and empathetic is always a good thing to do. The one thing that would've made me keep the pot, was no one ever saw his cards. If he had flashed them to me then mucked and the dealer pushed me the pot because he didn't table them, that would be different. It's nice that you gave him the BOD, kudos to you Lex
I agree with the chop decision. Ive been put in a similar spot before with newer players at a local game. Chopping is the best way to resolve it, doing more opens yourself up to angles, less is inconsiderate of the action being given to you.
I think you did the right thing. Clearly he messed it up but you should be generous with a rec player. Appreciate that you chopped it. It only shows that you are a person with integrity. Kudos to your action
I think you are right do the cop. I had something similar happened to me when I first started playing at the casino, but in my confusion and learning the process of the game the person I wasn't playing again gave me my $50 bet back. It was a good learning point, and a good way to build the pool of people playing
You did the right thing man of your word. Kid should have been thankful if it was me I would not have accepted your offer you won the hand
Two things…1) poker etiquette does exist at 1/2, 100%. It may not be as consistent as with higher stakes, but it’s certainly there. People don’t just learn poker etiquette once they get to 5/10 and higher. 2) It’s two pair, not two pairs (pair is already plural).
That aside, I like your vlogs. Entertaining to watch and you seem like a good human. Cheers
You keep the money. It's not your responsibility to look out for your opponents at the table, it's theirs. If they mess up, they pay.
I would have chopped it up too, nice job buddy! Keep grinding
That's crazy the same exact thing happened to me last night. A recreational player limped in middle position and I raise from the SB with AQ, the player calls and its a very dry runout. All three streets are checked through, and I had just won a similar hand against this player with K high, so I figured there's a very good chance my hand is good. After the river goes check check, I say " I have Ace high", he looks a little confused and after I turn over my hand he takes a second and mucks his cards.
After the cards are already being shuffled he tells the player next to him that he a had a pair, he looked extremely embarrassed and confused. Luckily this was a very small pot and he handled it very well. But in my opinion if you sit down to play a game and you don't understand all of the rules, that is on you, and in your specific situation I think you should just keep the pot and not feel bad about it all. He mucked his cards, you win.
This is one of those times that I show no mercy, if you want to play poker then play poker, if you want to get drunk then do it away from the poker table. No mercy from me for a drunk on the road or at the poker table.
My thought was a chop would be nice but Mr Pocket 8s won't be happy with anything other than the whole pot. Glad you did chop, as opposed to ruining that guy's day, and I hope he was happy enough because, as mentioned, that was a great deal.
Good move on chopping it up and also waiting to reveal what you did at the end of the vlog as the watch time increased.
Good move again on the chop. It was the gentlemen thing to do
Respect for the chop decision. Well played.
Yo lex classy move, probably the best part i love about you more than the poker. Keep up the good work bro
Nah, you absolutely made the right call. Let’s encourage him to continue playing and not walk away thinking he got robbed. Good outcome for you as well.
Well done Sir!
He's just lucky. That's the consequences of playing silly, drinking & mucking around on the table. Respect to you
"But I had the best hand and you said I was good" is next level bluffing - good for him for getting that one through. In all seriousness, It's the dealer's job to control the game. When the rec protested, the dealer should have stepped in and explained. Poker is hard enough without having to pay for other peoples' mistakes. Keep the pot next time - you earned it.
Exactly. I don't buy for a second that the guy was unaware of what Lex said. This one is 100% on the dealer. That was your pot, as played. If Player X can't be bothered to follow the action and complete the hand, that's also on him.
As a for profit player, I wouldn't pay it back. I have a hard time believing what I can't see. That seems predatory but then again what are the odds I would get shown courtesy by the same player when a weird situation occurs. I deal with the players I know, unknown are just passing by in such games
I think it's better to call value of ur hand like Ace high, 8 high, etc. Less confusing for recreational players
This happened to me at venetian, I ended up splitting a 600 pot with the guy.
I learned a lot of lessons the hard way in poker. I would have probably given him back his River call but part of me thinks "F it, thems the rules. Learn them before you put your dough on the table" and kept the whole damn thing. Bet he never forgets that rule again if you keep the pot
I watch you all the time Lex and you are extremely professional. You did nothing wrong. I'd definitely take the pot he shouldn't be playing without knowing that very basic rule.
That is awesome carma Lex, you will crush the rest of the month I am sure!!!
Okay ~ I’m at 7:03 ~ what would I do?
I have no clue, part of me says to chop it ~ that’s a fair compromise.
Part of me says to keep it ~ well within the rules.
I definitely don’t think giving him the entire pot is right ~ he made a large mistake despite whatever you said, you can’t win a pot without showing your cards if your heads up opponent shows…
Edit: you chopped! I like that. On the “you’re good” comment, I completely agree with you.
Nice attitude man, you did the right thing, even if the mistake was not yours !
That's was cool of you Lex...
Although etiquette is etiquette...
Thinking it only applies at higher stakes is wrong...
You good, you the man, good lucky in 2023
win win win
I think that was honorable what u did with that gentleman I have alot respect for what u did. Good job lex I have watched all of your videos your one of the best keep it up
One time at Resorts World I made a Yahtzee reference and said "small straight" when I flipped over my cards at showdown. One guy mucked and then realized I had 4 to a straight. There actually wasn't even a possible straight out there. I ended up giving the whole pot to the deal because he said he mucked a pair.
Classy move with the chop.
Ya done good, Lex. Class act.
You're a good man Lex! Pura Vida from Costa Rica!
I miss CR. Absolutely beautiful.
Your agreeing to chop the pot was very generous
Nice of you to do so
I don’t agree with you on the matter of poker etiquette
I play 1-3 up to 5-10
You may be correct in less issues with the higher stakes
But as for etiquette, I find the higher steaks player to be much rudder
If they take a bad beat or their bluffs get called light I often see complete meltdown v/s the lower stakes
But really enjoy your vlog keep it up
All legit bro. You did the right thing even though you didn’t need to
@Lex O Poker sorry to be nosey but bein a Hawkeye I’m DYING to know your ties to ISU wearing the black clover hat at the end of the video! Not gonna lie the hat has a nice aesthetic 😂😁 might just have to send you the right version as a gift if you’re willing 😎
I like your vlogs, i like the way your adjusting with your content to the audience and i respect what you did. But… in my opinion a real hero thing to do was to give him that pot. U picked a mix between the rules and your personal kidness - cool. Cheers from Poland ;)
After your second YOU ARE GOOD the dealer needs to step in and explain the situation
100% you were beat with the pocket queens. I can see how the rec player was confused. You did the right thing chopping the pot.
Phil Hellmuth and JRB went through this on an episode of Poker After Dark (not the wrongly mucked hand, the "You're good"/folding part).
Good on you for chopping. If I was a TH-camr like you ida done that too. I will say you got lucky on that QQ hand but imo I would have 3 bet pre flop. Worked out great though. Your a pro ima rec but an action rec so I woulda been loosing my ass on that QQ run out. Love your content bro. Keep it up.
Starting off a vlog with Rogue is always the best. Lex, you rock, and I hope one day to be able to play in Florida with you. Best of luck until then
Mr. Tight tried as hard as he could to bust himself and the dealer didn't let it happen haha.
Very nice Lex
Lex, Let me start off saying I think you are a stand up guy. You are right about some of this. However when a player calls your bet and doesn't instantly turn up their cards. You, as the primary bettor has the obligation to turn over your cards first. If Player 1 bets and Player 2 calls, Player 1 should turn over their cards first unless Player 2 opts to turn over first. That being said after you turned over your cards it is the responsibility of every player to know and understand the rules of the game. In no game would Casino, Home, Card House, etc. will they side with the player that either accidently mucks their hand or inadvertently mucks their hand. I even saw where Player 1 thought they had a King in their hand and announced, Pair of Kings but didn't show right away. Then the other player mucks his cards, but the player didn't have Kings only had Queen, Jack thinking he had King Queen. The casino had them split the pot and the player was issued a warning. They then told the player that it was his responsibility to protect his hand. In this. I'm not in favor of people who are drunk at the table playing. 1 They are sloppy, 2 they are slow, 3 they never pay attention, 4 in some cases are rude and obnoxious. I would like to see the casino take the responsibility to remove drunk players from the game for their own protection as well as other players. Of course this is my opinion and splitting the pot would nice thing to do but in now way necessary. He would have learned an expensive lesson, one I'm sure he would repeat.
Thanks Lex love watching your Vlogs and I always Learn something new. One thing I would like to learn from you is that what do you do when you go card dead. ? Do you just keep folding or do you play aggressively ( which I think is a bad idea especially ) when you are card dead and not hitting the board
When you started the story, I thought it was going to be that you said, “you’re good,” and then he mucked straight away thinking that that meant you already conceded the pot. If that were the case, you should even consider giving the whole pot for the accidental angle.
But that’s not what happened. You did (eventually) table your hand, and he never tabled his. It is possible that he actually called you down with a worse A high. You have no way of knowing he’s not lying. So I’d probably just give him the river action back and not chop the whole pot.
I’m not a fan of saying “you’re good” twice, especially against a rec. If he doesn’t react, you should just table your hand.
The only way to concede the pot is to muck/fold. If your opponent doesn't muck/fold you MUST show your hand to win.
I always feel by doing the right thing serves you in the long run
You been more than fair, chop it up. Great deal to the recreational player. 🎉
Definitely classy move. I might have given the river bet back, but prob not chopping the pot. If he held them up before mucking or something to where I caught a glipse but he didn't technically "table" them (which has happened to me), then I chop for sure. Discount vs drinking rec definitely in order, just think a chop was generous. But good for you.
You are a great person and a great poker player
It's definitely the right thing to do versus an obviously recreational player.
Good on you.
Agreed! You chopping was good on your end. It will come back around. All you can do is what you think is right.
You took the high road. Nice move
It was the right thing to do lex. Good for you. Best wishes!
I would have played that tricky QQ hand the same way as you. I definitely would not expect to see a limp re-raise from JJ; that was crazy.
I would have just given the river bet back. That seems standard in those situations. That's what Mariano did with Nik Airball recently.